{"article":{"id":10388,"heading":"Burn","author":"Maotzu","created":"2001-09-19 02:48:17","modified":"2005-08-15 00:38:55","last_modified":"Mon, 15 Aug 2005 07:38:55","article":"","contact":".","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"image\/gif","summary":".","numcomment":8,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/2001\/09\/burn.ebxykp.gif","filesize":"10.8 kibibytes","article_url":"\/news\/2001\/09\/10388.php","image":{"original":"\/uploads\/2001\/09\/burn.ebxykp.gif"}},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":10390,"heading":"That's graphics artistry","article":"Don't worry. Be Happy.\r\n\r\n- GHW Bush, about 1990 preparing acceptance by the US public for the destructive Gulf War\r\n\r\nThird from last US President.","author":"sun tzu","parent_id":10388,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-19 03:09:55","modified":"2001-09-19 03:57:25","fileurl":""},{"id":10402,"heading":"flexibility of symbols","article":"Dearest Leftist Comrade,\r\n\r\nIt's dangerous to allow symbols to control your thinking.\r\n\r\nPeople are rallying around the flag, not for what it represents to you, but for many disparate reasons, some certainly not inimical to the goals of progressives.\r\n\r\n","author":"jk","parent_id":10388,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-19 05:27:53","modified":"2001-09-19 06:00:02","fileurl":""},{"id":10421,"heading":"Also dear comrade","article":"What is the difference between your symbolic destruction and the the symbolicdestruction of the world trade center?\r\n\r\ncome to think of it, thats might be your point, a celebration of mindless destruction?  Or am I wrong.\r\n\r\nDo you understand how poorly our fellow Americans are prepared to cope with stress, and that all this flag-waving might be a simple phsycological difference, hoping that by waving a flag, life becomes a little simpler?\r\n\r\nYeah, I support your right to burn the flag, but what the hell does this burning here mean other than a fuck you to anyone who has ever feared being innocently blown up on the way to work?\r\n\r\nIf your serrious about positive social change, I think you need to understand both compassion and symbolism a little better.\r\n","author":"ibble","parent_id":10388,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-19 19:10:27","modified":"2001-09-19 19:52:44","fileurl":""},{"id":10434,"heading":"Whatever","article":">What is the difference between your symbolic destruction >and the the symbolicdestruction of the world trade center?\r\n\r\nUm no one died...and the destruction of the WTC was not symbolic it was real\r\n\r\n>come to think of it, thats might be your point, a >celebration of mindless destruction? Or am I wrong.\r\n\r\nYep you're wrong, do you realize that Bush and his boys see every flag as a vote for war and the asasination of of world leaders by the United States?\r\n\r\n>Do you understand how poorly our fellow Americans are >prepared to cope with stress, and that all this flag-waving >might be a simple phsycological difference, hoping that by >waving a flag, life becomes a little simpler?\r\n\r\nYou're jokeing right? Yes mindless nationalism is a way to combat stress and make life simpler as long as you're not the one that gets put in the concentration camp, or bombed back to a preindustrial technological base, the problem with nationalism is that it's always bad for the other guy.  \r\n\r\n>Yeah, I support your right to burn the flag, but what the >hell does this burning here mean other than a fuck you to >anyone who has ever feared being innocently blown up on the >way to work?\r\n\r\nWell it doesn't mean fuck you to anyone that is afraid they're going to get bombed on the way to work. It means fuck nationalism, fuck Bush, and fuck US Imperialism! \r\n\r\n>If your serrious about positive social change, I think you >need to understand both compassion and symbolism a little >better.\r\n\r\nWhatever, if you're serious about life you \"need to understand\" that you can't really tell people what they need to understand, especially in an electronic forum where you don't know who you're talking to. \r\n\r\nI mean do you really belive that you understand what I think and feel about compassion and symbolism because of a animated .gif file that I've posted to the internet? \r\n\r\nGet over yourself \r\n\r\n\r\nDo not give in to Nationalism!\r\n\r\nFight for the rights of all working people!\r\n\r\nOppose Imperialist War!\r\n\r\nSupport Wars of National Liberation!\r\n","author":"Maotzu","parent_id":10388,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-20 01:16:48","modified":"2001-09-20 01:55:28","fileurl":""},{"id":10435,"heading":"Whatever","article":">What is the difference between your symbolic destruction >and the the symbolicdestruction of the world trade center?\r\n\r\nUm no one died...and the destruction of the WTC was not symbolic it was real\r\n\r\n>come to think of it, thats might be your point, a >celebration of mindless destruction? Or am I wrong.\r\n\r\nYep you're wrong, do you realize that Bush and his boys see every flag as a vote for war and the asasination of of world leaders by the United States?\r\n\r\n>Do you understand how poorly our fellow Americans are >prepared to cope with stress, and that all this flag-waving >might be a simple phsycological difference, hoping that by >waving a flag, life becomes a little simpler?\r\n\r\nYou're jokeing right? Yes mindless nationalism is a way to combat stress and make life simpler as long as you're not the one that gets put in the concentration camp, or bombed back to a preindustrial technological base, the problem with nationalism is that it's always bad for the other guy.  \r\n\r\n>Yeah, I support your right to burn the flag, but what the >hell does this burning here mean other than a fuck you to >anyone who has ever feared being innocently blown up on the >way to work?\r\n\r\nWell it doesn't mean fuck you to anyone that is afraid they're going to get bombed on the way to work. It means fuck nationalism, fuck Bush, and fuck US Imperialism! \r\n\r\n>If your serrious about positive social change, I think you >need to understand both compassion and symbolism a little >better.\r\n\r\nWhatever, if you're serious about life you \"need to understand\" that you can't really tell people what they need to understand, especially in an electronic forum where you don't know who you're talking to. \r\n\r\nI mean do you really belive that you understand what I think and feel about compassion and symbolism because of a animated .gif file that I've posted to the internet? \r\n\r\nGet over yourself \r\n\r\n\r\nDo not give in to Nationalism!\r\n\r\nFight for the rights of all working people!\r\n\r\nOppose Imperialist War!\r\n\r\nSupport Wars of National Liberation!\r\n","author":"Maotzu","parent_id":10388,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-20 01:17:36","modified":"2001-09-20 01:55:28","fileurl":""},{"id":10486,"heading":"Symbol of oppression","article":"Screw the US and any other flags, NO BORDERS, NO NATIONS, STOP MILITARIZATION !","author":"Anarchist","parent_id":10388,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-20 22:48:04","modified":"2001-09-20 23:00:08","fileurl":""},{"id":10516,"heading":"borders..... hmmmm","article":"   Not sure if the world is up to the \"no borders\" mentality yet.....\r\n   Why not take the flag back from the imposters who use it in opposition to the Constitution??","author":"analyzer","parent_id":10388,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-21 11:14:30","modified":"2001-09-21 12:00:11","fileurl":""},{"id":10568,"heading":"Why don't you web commies move to cuba","article":"All you commie faggots can go take a screw at the moon.  I guess while we're chasing terrorists we can spare a few FBI guys to scoop up all you traitors and ship you off to the gulag, nice commie prison.  You'd be real happy then.  Fuck you all, and I hope you get AIDs you fucks.","author":"Gone-A-Viking","parent_id":10388,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-22 01:21:10","modified":"2001-09-22 01:35:11","fileurl":""}]}