{"article":{"id":10382,"heading":"Report from Islamic Community","author":"Chantel G (posted by LA-IMC)","created":"2001-09-18 21:25:57","modified":"2005-08-15 00:38:54","last_modified":"Mon, 15 Aug 2005 07:38:54","article":"<p>After spending about 5 hrs. today on the phone w\/ my contacts at the mosques  <br>  <br>  in LA and OC, and my fathers friends.. one message that became clear the the  <br>  <br>  Islamic school\/mosques\/centers would like to send out to all those helping  <br>  <br>  out is....  <br><br>  1) they thank you for your support in trusting them and knowing that they  <br>  <br>  love this country and that they were horrified at the event that unfolded  <br>  <br>  last Tuesday, in no way shape or form do they support those actions, or find  <br>  <br>  any type of justification for them. They wanted to thank all the people who  <br>  <br>  have called and asked to volunteer, people how have held meetings in support  <br>  <br>  of them.  <br><br>  2) they do need volunteers and help in the coming weeks to do simple tasks  <br>  <br>  at their locations or to help them w\/ press releases, press conferences.  <br><br>  3) they DO NOT want to see their plight used as a platform to move the  <br>  <br>  agenda of socialist, communist, anarchist, leftist point of view. They are  <br>  <br>  very conservative actually, and would not like to be used a stepping stone  <br>  <br>  for others to move their agenda ahead.. and im quoting when i say this...  <br>  <br>  they refuse to work w\/ an American\/White groups of activists who will make  <br>  <br>  their issue of discrimination an issue about globalization, about socialism,  <br>  <br>  communism, anarchy, etc. etc. etc. They need your help but refuse to be used  <br>  <br>  as pawns in other fights, and would not like to participate or condone any  <br>  <br>  groups that will spend their next few weeks bashing the Unites States. They  <br>  <br>  want their basic human rights and realize they need help from outside  <br>  <br>  groups, to make sure they are given those rights.  <br><br>  <br>  <br>  4) They respect the United States, The Constitution and the President, and  <br>  <br>  do not want to bring more hate and discrimination upon themselves by  <br>  <br>  participating w\/ groups and\/or activists who are at this point focused on  <br>  <br>  bashing the USA and \"fighting in the name of all Arab-Americans\"... they are  <br>  <br>  not here to diminish someone's white guilt. They have seen a lot of emails  <br>  <br>  being sent back and forth and postings on IMC that have discouraged them a  <br>  <br>  lot. A lot of \"American\/White\" activist who are now claiming that the USA  <br>  <br>  deserved this, that the terrorism was justified, making statements such as  <br>  <br>  \"they should have hit the white house\" \"USA needed for this to happen to  <br>  <br>  wake up\" \"this is the Revolution we need to fight now and show them how  <br>  <br>  strong we are\" \"We all need to use Direct Action the way Bin Laden did\" ...  <br>  <br>  these type of ideas and words are making them very very scared because in NO  <br>  <br>  WAY do they agree w\/ that.. and in NO WAY do they want to work w\/ people who  <br>  <br>  DO agree w\/ statements and ideas like that.  <br><br>  <br>  <br>  5) they would like to participate in programs that allow groups to work  <br>  <br>  together and put on discussions, rally's, press conferences, articles, radio  <br>  <br>  show programs.. but once again do now want to be caught in a maze of  <br>  <br>  personal agendas.  <br><br>  <br>  <br>  As a person from the middle east I would just like to please remind everyone  <br>  <br>  to keep in mind that if you choose to do this type of volunteer work within  <br>  <br>  these middle easter groups, please remember that in general you are going to  <br>  <br>  be dealing with a very conservative community... please respect that, if you  <br>  <br>  cannot do this from the bottom of your heart, by putting aside your own  <br>  <br>  agendas and working in their struggle to be able to live in this country and  <br>  <br>  provide a safe living conditions for themselves or their families, you are  <br>  <br>  doing a dis-service to them and their fight. That is how they feel, and  <br>  <br>  personally after hearing their reasons for feeling this way, I would have to  <br>  <br>  say I agree w\/ them. They have had to work w\/ activist groups before, and  <br>  <br>  they said that most of the time that experience has left them w\/ a bad taste  <br>  <br>  in their mouth because their cause gets lost in the sea of personal  <br>  <br>  agenda... food for thought.. and ideas to focus..  <br><br>  I personally think we should have a HUGE meeting sometimes this week or next  <br>  <br>  week. If anyone has ideas about locations, time and date please send the  <br>  <br>  info along. We need to pull together in complete solidarity and support of  <br>  <br>  one another, to not let this horrific tragedy rip us and our communities  <br>  <br>  apart, it's time to pull together, we are not talking about another mass  <br>  <br>  mobilization here, or a protest... all of which are important.. but were  <br>  <br>  talking about the safety and basic human rights of a large group of people  <br>  <br>  living in this country.  <br><br>  <br>  <br>  Sorrow knocked at the door,  <br><br>  Faith answered,  <br><br>  And found no one there.  -Japanese Proverb-  <br><br>  feel free to circulate this email  <br><br>  <br>  <br>  xoxo  <br>  <br>  Chantel  <br><br>  \"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience.  <br>  <br>  Our problem is that numbers of people all over the world have obeyed  <br>  <br>  the dictates of the leaders of  their government and have gone to war,  <br>  <br>  and millions have  been killed because of this obedience. . . Our problem is  <br>  <br>  that people are obedient all over the world in the face of  poverty and  <br>  <br>  starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people  <br>  <br>  are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves, and all the while  <br>  <br>  the grand thieves are running and robbing the country. That's our problem.\"  <br><br>                  Howard Zinn,  \"Failure to Quit\", p. 45 <\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"Very interesting reports from one journalists conversations with those in the Southland Islamic community.","numcomment":1,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/2001\/09\/repormfhpbf.txt","filesize":"5.2 kibibytes","article_url":"\/news\/2001\/09\/10382.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":10419,"heading":"tell them","article":"Tell them to stop oppressing women.  Bunch of sexist hypocrites!","author":"w","parent_id":10382,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-19 18:09:53","modified":"2001-09-19 18:33:48","fileurl":""}]}