{"article":{"id":7734,"heading":"Black Cop Bloc","author":"Abra","created":"2001-06-25 21:57:04","modified":"2005-08-15 00:35:17","last_modified":"Mon, 15 Aug 2005 07:35:17","article":"<p>.<\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","summary":"Cops posing as Black Bloc resting with their fellow pigs in front of McDonald's.","numcomment":17,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/2001\/06\/bb_20wannabe.jpg","filesize":"99.9 kibibytes","article_url":"\/news\/2001\/06\/7734.php","image":{"original":"\/uploads\/2001\/06\/bb_20wannabe.jpg","small":"\/uploads\/2001\/06\/bb_20wannabe.jpgthumb.jpg","medium":"\/uploads\/2001\/06\/bb_20wannabe.jpgmid.jpg"}},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":100046,"heading":"pansy bagging","article":"If it ever happens that our police forces are overwhelmed by buff liberals (heh) in negative-image kkk garb, all of my non-pussy conservative friends and I will go out with our guns and end this nonsense.\r\n\r\nThe only entity the indies could intimidate is France.\r\n\r\nThat probably has something to do with the shit-eating grins on these cops as they drag your limp-wristed hides to jail for violent offenses (assault, battery, vandalism, autolobotomization).  Liberal protests are great fun for the cops: easy arrests, you get to smack a liberal pantywaist around, and since liberals don't know how to throw punches or use firearms, the superlative danger to the cop is being driven loco by masses of anti-thought activists chanting their nonsensical mantra.\r\n\r\nMaybe one day it will occur to you that the cops stand in the place of individuals so as to defend the lives and property of those individuals.  If you Bolsheviks ever manage to overwhelm the cops, you'll learn how foolish it is to continually piss-off a well-armed citizenry and attack their appointed protectors and destroy their property.\r\n\r\nPoints to Remember\r\n1) If you are the first agressor, you are going to jail and the cop is not in trouble.\r\n2) If you do not cooperate with police instructions that the officer deems necessary to preserve order and safety, you will be guilty of disorderly conduct.\r\n3) You do not have the right to remain silent about your identity once you have been arrested - you must answer the booking questions; failure to self-id is a crime in most states and the cops can use reasonable means to evoke an identification.\r\n4) Being beaten up by a police officer that you have assaulted is not torture - it's a well-deserved ass-whooping and the cop drinks on me afterward.\r\n\r\nP.S. - Saddam Hussein told me to express his gratitude for all your help.  The Feb SanFran &quot;shoot their officers&quot; protest especially pleased President Hussein.","author":"jake","parent_id":7734,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-01-12 20:32:11","modified":"2004-01-12 20:32:11","fileurl":""},{"id":7738,"heading":"More Info on the Photo","article":"These police officers tried to dress up as black bloc members in order to infiltrate the legal rally in San Diego today. It is suspected that the cops' intention was to incite violence: Eyewitness sources have reported that it was the police who started the violence last week at demonstrations in Sweden and last year in Prague. These witnesses saw the suspected police smash windows and then later associate fraternally with uniformed police. Today's marchers were able to identify the police because of the police\u2019s sloppy tactics and large muscles. After identifying the police, protesters made a sign with the word \"COPS\" and an arrow pointing to them. The police then left in shame. \r\n\r\nUndercover cops often try to infiltrate activist organizations and then try to encourage activists to use molotov cocktails and other forms of violence. These cops are usually identified easily since most activists promote and practice non-violence.","author":"intime","parent_id":7734,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-06-25 22:26:31","modified":"2013-11-10 23:37:40","fileurl":""},{"id":7749,"heading":"this also happened in barcelona today!","article":"this EXACT SAME THING happened today in barcelona. even the associated press is reporting it. looks like the global military force is blundering through yet another illegal and oppressive tactic. dumbasses!","author":"anonymous anarchist","parent_id":7734,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-06-25 23:12:43","modified":"2001-06-25 23:28:49","fileurl":""},{"id":7808,"heading":"Question about the picture","article":"What are the yellow stickers on the \"black bloc\" cops shirts?  Are they from the demonstrations or are they maybe a sign for the other cops.","author":"some gurl somewhere","parent_id":7734,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-06-26 17:12:28","modified":"2001-06-26 17:27:25","fileurl":""},{"id":7908,"heading":"cops info","article":"the stickers on their shirts are the legal support numbers for protestors it basically says: \"i maintain my right to remain silent, i want to see a lawyer\"\r\n\r\ni have heard that someone pictured these guys at the Burger King Animal Rights protested masked up again. Later, they took their masks off and several people photographed them. They stood behind PETA activists posing as protestors luckily they didn't break anything to cause an provocation. I think someone will be posting their pics tomorrow.\r\n\r\nexpect this more and more, thus peoples AG's need to be tight and the cluster also, i.e. don't invite just any AG (which these cops would be) into your actions. \r\n\r\n","author":"alias salem","parent_id":7734,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-06-27 13:25:12","modified":"2001-06-27 13:44:30","fileurl":""},{"id":7927,"heading":"muscles","article":"I hope that \"large muscles\" will not always be a characteristic that signifies \"cop.\"  It wouldn't hurt the direct action community to start hitting the weights, if we are going to realistically and successfully engage in physical confrontation...just a thought...","author":"Marxo","parent_id":7734,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-06-27 16:46:33","modified":"2001-06-27 17:00:01","fileurl":""},{"id":8000,"heading":"pittsburgh may day","article":"there was a paranoid guy in a Misfits shirt at the RTS in\r\npittsburgh.  he had horrible tattoos of naked women and of\r\nharley davidsons.  he was a meat head and word has it that\r\nhe was the \"protestor\" who threw a chair at the police.\r\n\r\nfucking pigs.","author":"thrashmosh","parent_id":7734,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-06-28 11:33:09","modified":"2001-06-28 11:52:25","fileurl":""},{"id":8180,"heading":"if they're really there, is it paranoia?","article":"it is good to be on the defensive looking out for undercovers... but there should also be trust and communication within the movement.  also, advocating violent tactics does not mean cop.  there are now, and have been in the past, plenty of genuine folks who for very good reasons advocate taking a more militant stand against the system.\r\n\r\nso, keep on your toes, but if paranoia of infiltration splits the movement, even if it just splits apart people who advocate principled nonviolence and people who advocate posing a direct, physical threat to the system... well, that's just what They'd like to do, isn't it?\r\n\r\njust to confuse things a bit...","author":"bob","parent_id":7734,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-06-30 06:42:14","modified":"2001-06-30 07:00:02","fileurl":""},{"id":8200,"heading":"Nonviolence","article":"I'm sorry, but not all activists practice nonviolence. In fact, more and more fo them are rejecting the narrow dogmatism that sees nonviolence as the solution to every problem. I'm also a bit upset at the suggestion that the black bloc action in Prague and elsewhere were staged by the cops. We anarchists who do the black bloc do things for very specific reasons. We don't need the police's help, even though we know they try to infiltrate the bloc. Don't devalue the important actions of those who participate in black bloc by insinuating that the cops did these actions.\r\n","author":"Chuck0","parent_id":7734,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-06-30 14:31:30","modified":"2001-06-30 15:00:02","fileurl":""},{"id":8716,"heading":"\"Anarchist\" Cops","article":"  We are in deeper than you think......You dumb bastards are so naive.","author":"The Anarchist Next To You","parent_id":7734,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-07-19 11:56:46","modified":"2001-07-19 12:55:40","fileurl":""},{"id":8914,"heading":"Ha!","article":"And you've got the word COP taped onto your back, moron.","author":"The Anarchist Behind You","parent_id":7734,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-07-25 21:51:36","modified":"2001-07-25 22:45:57","fileurl":""},{"id":8927,"heading":"Telling the black bloc from the cops","article":"I definitely agree that there are reasonable arguments to be made for \"more militant tactics\" (which can of course mean lots of things)---and that we have to be careful not let paranoia start dividind us, and thinking that anyone who disagrees with us must be an agent provacateur. That way is madness.  I've never dressed in black bloc, but I have good friends who have (and I'm as sure they're not cops as I am about anyone).\r\n\r\nOn the other hand, I think the report from Barcelona should make us think.  If the cops dressed in black bloc are doing the _same things_ as an actual black bloc, then that would seem to indicate that the black bloc serves the interests of the cops! When the black bloc doens't exist, the cops have to make it up. \r\n\r\nOf course, the real black blocs probably aren't doing the exact same things as the cops in drag. It's worth thinking about this further, to ensure that when we use black bloc tactics, we _avoid_ doing things that serve the interests of the cops (unless they're really damn useful things that also serve other interests to such a degree that they're worth it, I suppose), and clarify what these differences are. For ourselves, and for others that would claim _anyone_ doing anything that looks like black bloc must be agent provacateur. Make it clear what the difference is, to avoid that paranoia thing.\r\n\r\nBut there are some dificult questions, I think. If I see a guy breaking a window at a bank (as some police dressed in black bloc have been reported to do, right?), how do I know if he's a cop or not?  Or, if I approve of breaking bank windows, does it even matter? For that matter, if I don't approve of breaking windows, does it even matter? [which is why you see 'non-violent' protestors attacking people in black bloc!] \r\n\r\nTo make things even more dificult, there's of course really no way to tell if someone is a cop or not (unless you saw them in uniform or whatever), whether they're in black bloc or at an organizing meeting. The response to this should be not the paranoia that is sometimes called \"security culture\", but figuring out how to act in such a way that it doesn't _matter_ if there's a cop at a meeting, or at a demo, or whatever. (Which often involves keeping your specific plans secret, sure.)","author":"Chicago  Anarchist","parent_id":7734,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-07-26 14:54:06","modified":"2001-07-26 15:25:05","fileurl":""},{"id":95375,"heading":"exactly","article":"<i>I hope that &quot;large muscles&quot; will not always be a characteristic that signifies &quot;cop.&quot; It wouldn't hurt the direct action community to start hitting the weights, if we are going to realistically and successfully engage in physical confrontation...just a thought...<\/i>\r\n\r\nNo fucking kidding!  would it be so bad if we started being &quot;meatheads&quot;? i think we could probably hold the lines a little longer in the very least. strong arms make bottles break easier when connecting with cops heads!","author":"midwest","parent_id":7734,"mime_type":"text\/html","created":"2003-11-24 01:24:04","modified":"2003-11-24 01:24:04","fileurl":""},{"id":95423,"heading":"Prague","article":"Hey, I just can tell ya, that in Prague the riots were started by anarchists not by fucking pigs. I can be proud for comrades from many countries which participated in battle. Although some fukin liberals after that says that they were provocatours.\r\n\r\nBut if there were no violence, there were no questions. Its sad, but we needed it.\r\n\r\n And in begining it seems very funy. So much cracked cops :-))) Mistake was made in retreat - No barricades were made.\r\n\r\nCheers\r\n\r\nCLAHOWA!!!","author":"Praganarchist","parent_id":7734,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-24 17:29:42","modified":"2003-11-24 17:29:42","fileurl":""},{"id":95478,"heading":"A Well Deserved Beating","article":"Addressed to only anarchists, and not law abiding protestors:\r\n\r\nA WELL-DESERVED BEATING\r\n\r\n\r\nMany come to Miami on vacation\r\nFor nothing more than our sunny location\r\nBut you came to our Magic City to cause unrest,\r\nAnd didn't expect to see so many in armored vests.\r\n\r\nYou came armed with your marbles and wrist rockets\r\nHoping we'd keep our hands in our pockets.\r\nWhile you carried on, wearing a black hood,\r\nPatient and unmoved our troops stood.\r\n\r\nSo you thought you'd fight, rob, be a vandal\r\nThinking Miami's Finest would cause the scandal.\r\nBut you crossed some serious legal bounds\r\nAnd then felt the force of our non-lethal rounds.\r\n\r\nYou must\u2019ve thought you were slick to throw some stones\r\nNot thinking with our sticks we\u2019d break your bones\r\nOh how, unfortunately, quick the time passed\r\nAs we all watched while you got tear-gassed\r\n\r\nWith paint and violence you did attack,\r\nToo bad for you pepper spray was shot back.\r\nYou tried to start fires, throw smoke bombs, and then run\r\nIt was quite funny when you got shot with a stun gun\r\n\r\nAmusing it was to observe from home\r\nWhile on our city streets you did roam\r\nSo to conclude, this isn\u2019t just meant to mock,\r\nBut a reminder to stay off Our Block.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nBased on FTAA demonstrations held in Miami on Thursday, November 20, 2003\r\n","author":"Miami Born","parent_id":7734,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-25 17:49:11","modified":"2013-11-11 00:27:45","fileurl":""},{"id":95490,"heading":"wow!","article":"YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKEN KIDDING ME!  there has to be at least 3000 lbs. of mass right in front of their favorite diner.  now i am a pretty muscular person, but not that brawny. cops look very husky cause they workout alot!  whenever you spot people like these walk up to them and ask them questions.  follow 'em for a bit...see how they react.","author":"jonathan","parent_id":7734,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-25 19:34:05","modified":"2003-11-25 19:34:05","fileurl":""},{"id":95500,"heading":"I think it's brilliant!","article":"I love the tactics the cops use to put an end to flagrant, violent anarchist revolutionaries. \r\n\r\nBrings back memories of last year when someone posted that video on IMC, the one with that black bloc radical getting his ass beaten by undercover police! That video brought a smile to my face, I tell ya!! \r\n\r\nThere's little more satisfying than seeing some black clad smart-assed juvenile delinquint getting a good whomping by the LAPD, and then being cuffed and tossed in the back of a police cruiser.\r\n\r\nLittle more satisfying that is, except for the incessant whining that is sure to follow the beating by the fifth colum leftists here on IMC, that would have you believe their civil rights are being violated.\r\n\r\n","author":"Max","parent_id":7734,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-25 22:24:07","modified":"2003-11-25 22:24:07","fileurl":""}]}