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Bigots in California celebrate deaths of Mexican immigrants.
More than a dozen Mexicans perished in the desert this week due to the get-tough border policies implemented by Clinton and continued by Bush. In response, Anti-Mexican bigots in California blamed the victims, celebrated their deaths, and took the occasion to threaten future militia violence. See and respond to their comments on this board:
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Because border enforcement has been tightened in urban areas under the get-tough policy initiated under the Clinton administration, Mexican migrant workers have been driven to cross the border in more remote areas. As a result, more than a dozen Mexicans perished in the desert just this week alone.
In response, Anti-Mexican bigots in California celebrated and took the occasion to threaten future militia violence.
Here are a couple of the reactions of the anti-Mexican bigots at the California Coalition for Immigration Reform (CCIR) website:
> I have not one iota of sympathy
> Posted by Dwight D on 05\/24\/01 - 09:45:29
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> I have not one iota of sympathy for those who
> die while illegally invading our borders. They
> get what they deserve. Maybe they should have
> waited for their \"survival kits.\" But there's
> one ingrediant missing from those kits. The
> kits should include a remedy for gunshot
> wounds...
> Where did I say I was \"afraid\"?
> Posted by Ronald J. Brown on 05\/24\/01 -
> 16:20:43
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> I'm armed better than any of them will be.
> Can you say \"50 caliber semi-automatic\"?
> Can you say \"two to five mile range\"?
> Can you say \"armor piercing\"?
> It's legal too. Imagine that...
You can add your own comments on the CCIR board at the following address:<\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"www.ccir.net\/webcgibin\/index.cgi","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"\r\nMore than a dozen Mexicans perished in the desert this week due to the get-tough border policies implemented by Clinton and continued by Bush. In response, Anti-Mexican bigots in California blamed the victims, celebrated their deaths, and took the occasion to threaten future militia violence. See and respond to their comments on this board:","numcomment":48,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2001\/05\/6998.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":108866,"heading":"Immigration is ruining California","article":"I am a third generation 'Mexican-American' and am frankly embarrassed by the liberalism and arrognace of mexicans in this state. WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR BORDERS!!!!! Can't you see what's happening? Do you really want this state or any other state to become Mexico. That is the main reason why people leave Mexico, becuase it's not. If we don't do somethign soon we will inherit all of Mexico's problems. Problems like corruption, immense poverty and the rest. Everyone who is here is allowed to stay but that's it. NO MORE ILLEGALS!!!!!! Mexicans who have been here need to do something about it. Don't use racism or bigotry as an excuse to defend yourselves. We are all Americans and need to unite agaisnt illegal immigration to protect the legacy of America. ","author":"G. Hernandez","parent_id":6998,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-04-28 14:10:13","modified":"2004-04-28 14:10:13","fileurl":""},{"id":108875,"heading":"Deportation is the answer","article":"Chingado! You all got some issues. No wonder your children are killing \r\neach other in the suburbs.<\/I> \r\n
\r\nLook around, Pedro. Most street gangs are made up of browns and blacks.\r\n
\r\nI only represent the invisible people that you ignore or persecute as criminals and immigrants, despite the fact that myself and my people clean your houses, mow your lawns, watch your children, cook your food serve your every need and buy your shit, etc.<\/I>\r\n
\r\nYou're not doing us any favors. Illegals also costs US taxpayers 68 billion a year in welfare and law enforcement, and the money illegals make (15 billion per year) is sent back to relatives in mexico.\r\n
\r\nYou are some selfish motherfuckers, Americans left and right. <\/I>\r\n
\r\nThe flea calls the dog selfish. What a laff. It's not OUR fault your country of origin is a shithole. \r\n
\r\nEven more pathetic is mexico itself is rich in oil and other natural resources. What a shame its population is poor and ignorant and all its natural wealth is nationalized, which is what the nazimedia clowns want for America. \r\n
\r\nRather than overthrowing your own corrupt SOCIALIST government, you sneak over here and try to duplicate the same turd-world slums you ran away from. Why? You refuse to learn English but have the cohones<\/I> to demand free everything. \r\n
\r\nDeportation is the answer. \r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"\u00a5","parent_id":6998,"mime_type":"text\/html","created":"2004-04-28 17:06:51","modified":"2026-10-25 17:02:53","fileurl":""},{"id":108877,"heading":" It's not OUR fault your country of origin is a shithole.","article":"Want to bet? We have made quite sure that the governments from these shit hole countries have stayed that way to satisfy our corporate employers. If they try to reform we send in the dogs.\r\nPoor little fool.","author":"CIA","parent_id":6998,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-04-28 17:20:06","modified":"2004-04-28 17:20:06","fileurl":""},{"id":108914,"heading":"CIA, that's the same Communist lie as always","article":"Everywhere American corporations go they improve the lives of thousands, even millions of people. It's not the fault of the corporates that some countries suffer under lousy, corrupt political systems.\r\n\r\n","author":"Barney","parent_id":6998,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-04-28 21:24:35","modified":"2004-04-28 21:24:35","fileurl":""},{"id":108929,"heading":"want to bet?","article":">> It's not the fault of the corporates that some countries suffer under lousy, corrupt political systems.<<\r\nTell that to the death squads we set up in El Salvador, Honduras, Chile, Argentina, Columbia etc. Have you been smoking your old socks or are you really that stupid? After reading your posts it must be the latter.","author":"CIA","parent_id":6998,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-04-29 00:28:16","modified":"2004-04-29 00:28:16","fileurl":""},{"id":110557,"heading":"Ignorance in the American Culture","article":"Thanks for showing to the rest of the world how ignorant some people are when it comes to illegal immigrants. \r\nAmericans need Mexicans as much as Mexicans need Americans. Mexicans are not the only immigrants in the States. Thats what makes this country so unique, cause we are all immigrants......yes even you!! \r\nWe don't come here to take your jobs neither, we come here to take the jobs that you don't want, and that we with honor take them. Remember, that we all have the right to live, not as Mexicans or Americans but as Humans!!\r\nSEndy ...22 ","author":"Sendy","parent_id":6998,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-05-19 16:03:47","modified":"2004-05-19 16:03:47","fileurl":""},{"id":110558,"heading":"Ignorance in the American Culture","article":"Thanks for showing to the rest of the world how ignorant some people are when it comes to illegal immigrants. \r\nAmericans need Mexicans as much as Mexicans need Americans. Mexicans are not the only immigrants in the States. Thats what makes this country so unique, cause we are all immigrants......yes even you!! \r\nWe don't come here to take your jobs neither, we come here to take the jobs that you don't want, and that we with honor take them. Remember, that we all have the right to live, not as Mexicans or Americans but as Humans!!\r\nSEndy ...22 ","author":"Sendy","parent_id":6998,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-05-19 16:07:14","modified":"2004-05-19 16:07:14","fileurl":""},{"id":110564,"heading":"No help wanted","article":"Thanks for showing to the rest of the world how ignorant some people are when it comes to illegal immigrants. \r\n\r\n---If it's "ignorant" to defend one's borders from invaders with no legal right to be here, then hell yes, I'm "ignorant."\r\n\r\nAmericans need Mexicans as much as Mexicans need Americans.\r\n\r\n----The USA would survive if all Mexicans disappeared overnight. And if all Americans vanished, I doubt Mexico could do anything useful with the country left behind, except expand the territory of Power Rangers pinatas and piss in the streets.\r\n\r\nMexicans are not the only immigrants in the States. \r\n\r\n----No, but they make up the largest population of illegals, which drain this country.\r\n\r\nThats what makes this country so unique, cause we are all immigrants......yes even you!! \r\n\r\n---Wrong. I was born in the USA, which means automatic citizenship. My forefathers came here legally, through Ellis Island. They also learned to speak English and dropped their old country ways as fast as possible. Unlike Mexcians. \r\n\r\nWe don't come here to take your jobs neither, we come here to take the jobs that you don't want, and that we with honor take them. \r\n\r\n----How long is this nonsensical argument going to continue? We have something called the free market here. If there were no illegals, legal immigrants would take those jobs, and if there were NO more immigrants, the pay of those jobs would go up until someone else took them. I'd gladly pay $18 for a head of lettuce if it meant not losing 68 billion a year to foreign criminals. \r\n\r\nRemember, that we all have the right to live, not as Mexicans or Americans but as Humans!! \r\n\r\n---Yes, but yno one has the right to live on someone else's land and use their resources without permission and paying just compensation. \r\n\r\n---INVADERS ARE NEVER WELCOME, EXCEPT BY PARASITE LIBERALS LOOKING TO KEEP THE WELFARE STATE HUGE.\r\n","author":"\u00a5","parent_id":6998,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-05-19 16:39:21","modified":"2026-10-25 17:02:53","fileurl":""},{"id":22065,"heading":"are you betrayer of your raza","article":"To you who have Hispanics roots and are renegade of it:\r\n you think you was rigth when you wrote those all things about inmigrant or mexicans ,no, you wrong and in this way betray your gente , and the same way that you did it ,like that you 'll betrayed by those who you sympatise (white people) and may be you don't know, but that people discrimine and segregate you too you sympatize with them, but they dont sympatize you.","author":"Juan Pueblo (mexicano por fortuna)","parent_id":6998,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-11-09 23:13:07","modified":"2002-11-09 23:13:07","fileurl":""},{"id":22433,"heading":"what the ****","article":"that's messed up how they are going to kill la raza. They come to the U.S.A because of the American dream and they risk their lives everyday and because of what?? to get critized and belittled by others. How are people going to celebrate the killings of these Mexicans??? Who do they think they are? It pisses me off that people can be so ignorant. All of my friends are Mexican and I have Mexicans in my family. This is not a joke. I don't think that it is fair that Americans can go to Mexico and come back without any problems but Mexicans can't do the same.... Americans don't need green cards so why should Mexicans need them... I think that people need to quit being assholes.. becuause paybackz are a bitch and u always get it back in return.. If it wasn't for Mexicans we wouldn't be eating all the foods we have now.. because noone else would do the jobs they do for the little bit of money so people should be grateful... ","author":"katie","parent_id":6998,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-11-18 22:55:00","modified":"2002-11-18 22:55:00","fileurl":""},{"id":22463,"heading":"Green cards aren't needed","article":"Kate,\r\n\r\nAmericans don\u2019t need green cards because we are citizens. Green cards are for non -citizens. It\u2019s a permit to stay in US to work and live. It should be obvious that citizens with passports or proof of citizenship don\u2019t need it. A little research please.\r\n\r\nUS citizens can go in and out of Mexico freely because very few Americans stay in Mexico and work illegally. By the way, on Mexico\u2019s southern border, where many Central Americans cross over illegally to take jobs in Mexico, the Mexican government has deployed its Army. Yes, unlike the US, Mexico uses its Army to police its borders.\r\n\r\nThere is a legal way for Mexicans to enter the US just as there is for Irish, Egyptian and everyone else. However, these are harder to get. One problem with illegal workers is that it restricts the number of legal workers and immigrants permitted into the US. \r\n\r\nYour statement on low cost labor is the key issue. I prefer to call it exploitative labor. It is not try however, that Americans won't do this work. We just won't - or can't afford to - do this work for the exploitative wages that illegals get. In NYC where the sanitation department is a tight civil service union, only legal residents can apply and application for garbage men positions was so high that a lottery to merely apply was held. Its the same work - picking up garbage that illegals may be doing elsewhere but the wages are not exploitative. So, Americans will do this work but not for the exploitative wages of illegals. \r\n\r\nFor this reason Progressives should strongly oppose illegal immigration. These I-Is are \u2018allowed\u2019 in because of big business influence \u2013 they want the cheap exploitative wages. Stop illegal immigration, open a sane and liberal immigration and guest worker policy and stop this wage exploitative. By the way, an indication of business\u2019 role in encouraging illegals is the fact that companies that hire illegals rarely get a strong punishment.\r\n\r\nI freely admit that these arguments about non-exploitative wages collapse if you, Kate, are arguing for free, open and unfettered immigration rules on a moral basis \u2013 in other words totally open borders. There is a strong moral argument for this. However, the reality of it is harsh. Jimmie Carter, a big supporter of the Carribean Initiative indicated that the US could empty the carribean in a week. To do so would mean the American people, including you Kate, accepting a radically changed lifestyle. I\u2019m still pondering this. \r\n","author":"Alexian B","parent_id":6998,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-11-19 15:13:35","modified":"2013-11-10 23:47:00","fileurl":""},{"id":7007,"heading":"NOT BIGOT, BUT CITIZENS TIRED OF ILLEGALS","article":"\r\n Oh yes! Of course they are bigots! Americans are tired of\r\nillegal immigration, the person that posted this muck,\r\nis trying to project that if you are against illegal immigration, you are a BIGOT!\r\nILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A CRIME! This poster (humanbeing)\r\nor whatever his name is probably has relatives in Latin\r\nAmerica he wishes to bring over ILLEGALLY.\r\nDON'T BUY INTO THIS LIE! CCIR IS A AMERICAN PATRIOTIC\r\nGROUP.\r\nWOULD MEXICO HELP US IF WE WERE CROSSING THE DESERT?\r\nTHEY EVICTED OUR ELDERLY THAT BUILT HOMES IN MEXICO WITH\r\nTHEIR LIFE SAVING, AND WITH THEIR ARMY!","author":"Rose","parent_id":6998,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-05-26 12:45:09","modified":"2001-05-26 13:00:01","fileurl":""},{"id":7009,"heading":"Thanks Viola\/Barbara\/Rose!","article":"You did us a favor by proving how stupid the supporters of CCIR are.","author":"Mr X","parent_id":6998,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-05-26 16:07:17","modified":"2001-05-26 17:00:01","fileurl":""},{"id":7012,"heading":"bigots in la indy censor COMMENT!","article":"To: matt