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by Skep Saturday, Feb. 09, 2019 at 12:37 PM

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Now reportedly, otto frank between 1945 and 1946 sought out the brilleslijpers, either janny or lien or both according to the different gospels, after learning from the red cross in amsterdam that it had been them to report anne and margot dead .

Thus WILL 8 displays a photo repro of janny´s written death declaration for anne and margot frank - a piece of paper otto badly needed if he was to extract reparations from the german state . Here above at the top of my post is the document .

Its date is january 13, 1946 . Wheras lien´s report to otto was made in july 1945 . Did otto need 2 declarations ? Thinkable . But the source of this photo is the infamous miep gies collection - always to be suspected of fraud , as miep was by otto´s side all her life, supporting the hiding lie .

The second declaration is to be seen in a photo repro in miep´s book , MG photo page before page 129 , find it in the comment section.

Now , who wrote this ? The signature appears to read " CR REBLING BRILLESLIJPER " : wasn´t the sister´s name Lientje ? Or is that first C, really an L ? Maybe that C was another first name from birth, I do not know for sure. R stands for rebekka, her given birth name ( wiki ) . Lientje or lien or lin was her nickname. Rebling was her husband´s last name, just like brandes above was janny´s .

Anyway again , the 2 declarations differ markedly : as per lien , anne and margot died in barrack 19 . As per janny above, this was barrack 21 instead !

Lien´s declaration is dated november 11, 1945. In its version on MG 129, it is 8 lines long .

In its version on GK 232f., it suddenly grows into a humongous 2 whole printed pages !! And book author pressler dates it to july 1945 !!

On WILL 113, janny states it was her who put the death cross on anne frank´s name at the red cross in amsterdam after liberation and her return . And it was her whom otto frank sought out to have the death of his daughters confirmed , after the red cross had told him janny was the witness . Janny also states otto sought out lientje too, in that summer 1945 .

So there you have it : otto got himself all the confirmations he could , and both declarations . And though they differed in certain details, the basic fact was confirmed : anne and margot frank had died at bergen belsen at some point in february or march 1945 (lien) or shortly before april 15, 1945 (janny ). Or - had they ?

The thing with the mass grave is also suspect : for argument´s sake, let us say anne and margot really died of typhus at belsen in february or march 1945 . What would typically happen to dead bodies at belsen over that period ? The documented answer is : cremation. No mass grave burial at all . Look at this original document :


This heroic construction entrepreneur, Karl Schlombach , arrested by the nazis for cursing them and eventually brought to belsen where he died february 25 , 1945, was cremated ! There was a crematorium at belsen , and it was orderly functioning as late as february 25 , 1945, when anne and margot are alleged to have died there . Therefore we are to assume that they too were cremated .

Also notice that a regular death certificate for Schlombach was issued by camp authorities , this time around directly, not based on some witness testimony, on march 8, 1945 . And the victim´s wife in berlin was sent a copy of said certificate. The certificate is signed by the kriminalbeamte und ss-untersturmführer wilhelm frerichs . Obviously it could well be that these late belsen certificates were not issued for unknowns such as anne and margot , but only for prominents such as this construction magnate Schlombach or lawyer Demoustier. But again : for completely unknown jew werner goldschmidt too, a humble technician , we have prisoner number and exact date of death for february 1945 : why then do we have nothing of this sort for anne and margot ?

To bury the typhus dead in a mass grave inside of an overcrowded camp is to call for epidemics !

There was indeed a crematorium at belsen , in good working order at least until late february

1945 ! Lien´s declaration , that she and janny threw anne and margot into a mass grave in february or march 1945 at belsen , makes no sense at all . Especially since she states this happened a few days after their deaths , in early spring , when the snow had already melted ( GK 233 ) !!! Did they really handle 2 putrefying , typhus-infected bodies - and survive ? They were nurses, not corpse unit /Leichenkommando . They had no business disposing of bodies .

Even when , in march/april 1945, the death rate in belsen skyrocketed due to hunger, typhus, polluted water because the brits had bombed the electric water pump, lack of supplies again due to allied bombing of civilian infrastructure, there was no burial in mass graves whatsoever : the crematorium wasn´t enough any longer for all the dead , so this is what they began doing :


" Seine Erinnerungen an Bergen-Belsen veröffentlichte er erstmals 1977 in Norwegen unter dem Titel „Leiren“.Literatur: Arne Moi, Das Lager. Ein Norweger in Bergen-Belsen, Göttingen 2002 Stiftelsen Arkivets http://www.stiftelsen-arkivet.no/krigsseiler-arne-moi " :

" In march 1945 there died at bergen belsen over 18.000 people [ how this figure was arrived at, nobody knows, I would add] . Crematorium capacity is overwhelmed . The ss switches to burning the corpses on pyres .

" So we sawed wood and chopped blocks and took everything across the street to the body mounds and left it with the corpse units . The people there built enormous pyres in layers, alternating a level with bodies and one with wood , and arranged the trunks so as to leave air canals , so that the pyre got enough draft . Clever works they were , and eventually, one would pour diesel oil over them , and light the fire (...) They burned for days on end ."

The writer of these words was norwegian arne moi , who had been brought to belsen in early february 1945 after a years-long odyssee across POW camps, prisons and concentration camps .

He survived . "

He wrote books about his ordeal , you have them above .

According to interrogation records of belsen commander joseph kramer in british custody, during the last six weeks of the camp (early march-mid-april , 1945) he did not have sufficient staff to bury all the dead - but he made no mentions of absurd mass graves . What he implied most likely, is that many dead were left lying around and had to wait days for their turn on the pyre or in the crematorium ; and although he uses the word bury, this word does not necessarily imply mass graves , and might be a mistranslation from the german .

" Then as a last straw the allies bombed the electric plant that pumped our water. Loads of food were unable to reach the camp because of the allied fighters . Then things really got out of hand . During the last six weeks I have been helpless . I did not even have sufficient staff to bury the dead , let alone segregate the sick ... " :


Here are the sources for kramer´s statement weber quotes in note 19, both mainstream and revisionist : " josef kramer statement (1945) in: r. phillips, ed., Trial of josef kramer and forty-four others, p. 737. Also quoted in: a. butz, Hoax, p. 275; essay by alan moorehead, " Belsen " in : cyril connolly, ed., The golden horizon, pp. 109-110; dr. russell barton , "Belsen" History of the second world war (editor : barrie pitt , copyright bpc publications, 1966), part 109, 1975, p. 3025 . " :

if anne frank died at belsen , she was killed not only by nazi policy, but also by barbaric allied bombing of civilian infrastructure.

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