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Anti-Muslim Hate Film Incites Violence

by Stephen Lendman Friday, Sep. 14, 2012 at 9:28 PM
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Anti-Muslim Hate Film Incites Violence

by Stephen Lendman

Post-9/11, Washington declared war on Islam. Islamophobia facilitates war on terror policy. Muslims became public enemy number one. Imperial wars followed. Endless direct and proxy ones continue. Others are planned.

Dehumanizing Islam violates core US beliefs about religious freedom and respecting all faiths equally. America only respects money power and imperial dominance.

It targets anyone challenging its quest for global hegemony. Millions of corpses attest to its resolve. They're strewn across North Africa, the Middle East, Central Asia, and other parts of the world without end. Their numbers increase daily.

The business of America is war, imperial dominance, and corporate empowerment.  Ravaging one country after another follows. Fear is created and manipulated to facilitate what should be condemned. Where it ends who knows. Perhaps a mushroom-shaped cloud future awaits.

Muslims know America's dark side best. It victimizes them daily. Millions died since Gulf War mass killings ignited nearly 22 years of genocidal slaughter.

They've been mercilessly targeted for praying to the wrong God. They're used for political advantage. They're pretexts for permanent wars. They're ongoing with no end in sight.

Media scoundrels misreport or ignore them. Attacks on US Cairo and Benghazi diplomatic missions made headlines and ignited rage. Capitol Hill flags were ordered lowered to half mast. US Libyan ambassador Chris Stevens and three members of his staff were killed. Millions of dead Muslims go unnoticed.

Stevens previously was Obama's representative to America's puppet Libyan National Transition Council. It helped Washington and NATO partners ravage the country mercilessly.

They're responsible for killing tens of thousands of civilians, causing widespread destruction, leaving countless numbers homeless, displaced, and impoverished, as well as ending cherished social programs Gaddafi instituted.

According to a New York Times editorial headlined "Murder in Benghazi," Libya's "pro-democracy revolution had no better friend than" Stevens.

The Times not only spurned truth, it blasphemed it. Stevens like all US ambassadors and officials serve imperial Washington's interests. They're contemptuous of democracy and rule of law principles.

"The worst thing now would be for the United States to turn away from its commitments to work with Libya (and help it) build (a) stable new societ(y)."

America's interest is plunder, exploitation and dominance. It won't tolerate democracy or anything resembling it. It doesn't at home or anywhere abroad.

A blasphemous anti-Muslim film incited violence. It killed Stevens and others. An Israeli/American filmmaker made it. He calls himself Sam Bacile. According to the Los Angeles Times, public record searches, "including court, voting, telephone or property databases - show no one" by that name in California.

AP said Nakoula Basseley Nakoula uses the alias Nicola Bacily. He acknowledged managing the company that produced the film. He claims Bacile is real and directed it. Federal court papers revealed Nakoula aliases include Bacily, Erwin Salameh, and others.

"Bacile," or whatever his name is, stands by his filth. Over 100 Jewish donors funded him.

Perhaps Romney supporter/billionaire Sheldon Adelson was one. Perhaps Netanyahu, other Israeli hardliners, and Mossad either supported it or were involved. It bears classic Israeli fingerprints.

"Bacile" claims he wrote, directed and produced it. He calls Islam "a cancer." Weeks earlier, the film was shown in Los Angeles. It runs two hours. It attracted little attention.

On 9/11 eve, he released an Arabic 13 minute trailer. It's titled "Innocence of Muslims." Facebook was used to promote it. It circulated via You Tube. Violence followed.

He calls Mohammad a baffoon, a donkey, a philanderer, an opportunist, a pedophile, homosexual, and religious fraud. One scene depicts him having sex. Muslims and responsible critics denounced him.

In 2005, the Danish newspaper Jyllands Posten published blasphemous caricatures. They depicted the Prophet Mohammad irreverently. One showed him wearing a turban throwing a bomb. Riots followed in many Muslim countries. Deaths occurred in Afghanistan, India, Libya, and perhaps elsewhere.

In 2011, the Center for American Progress produced a report titled "Fear, Inc.: The Roots of the Islamophobia Network in America." It revealed that seven US-based pro-Israeli organizations spent over $40 million from 2001 - 2009 spreading anti-Islamic hate.

Racist Pastor Terry Jones heads the Gainesville, FL-based Dove World Outreach Center. In 2010, he cancelled plans to burn the Koran after then Afghan commander David Petraeus said doing so would endanger US forces.

In 2011, he incited rage over threats to "put the Koran on trial" and burn it. Pleas by religious leaders and US officials failed to dissuade him. His assistant, Wayne Sapp, committed the sacrilege and broadcast it online. He also burned an image of the Prophet Mohammad.

In April 2012, he did it again. According to the Gainesville Sun, his church was issued a citation for violating city fire ordinances.

Analyst Gordon Duff calls Jones a CIA asset "run by rogue handlers, and heavily promoted by Mossad elements throughout the Middle East." His blasphemy draws attention. He's used to incite Islamophobia.

He's linked to the anti-Islamic video. He promoted and helped circulate it. He bears responsibility with others for the violence it incited.

US soldiers involved in Koran burnings and other forms of desecration provoked outrage when they happened.

Muslims believe the holy Koran is an exact record of words revealed by God through the Angel Gabriel to Muhammad. He taught them to others. Scribes passed them on. Throughout centuries of Islamic history, its 114 chapters remained unchanged.

The Koran's the primary source of Muslim faith and practice. It covers all human concerns, including wisdom, beliefs, worship and law. It also focuses on God's relationship with humanity, and provides guidelines for a just society, proper relationships, and just divisions of power.

It teaches love, not hate; peace, not violence; charity, not selfishness; and tolerance, not terrorism. Its five pillars include profession of faith, prayer five times daily, fasting during Ramadan, charity, and performing the Hajj pilgrimage to Mecca at least once in a lifetime for those able to afford it.

In February, clashes followed US Bagram Air Base soldiers dumping Koran copies and other Islamic holy materials in debris piles for burning.

Military officials lied. They claimed they contained "extremist inscriptions" and were used to "facilitate extremist communications." This incident followed earlier ones and release of a January video showing Marines urinating on Afghan corpses.

Protests erupted each time. Hollow apologies heightened anger, especially after 11 years of brutal war, occupation, daily killings, and extreme deprivation in ravaged Afghanistan.

Western media reports claimed rockets fired at Washington's Benghazi consulate killed Stevens and three members of his staff. According to The New York Times, "Islamist militants armed with antiaircraft weapons and rocket-propelled grenades stormed" the mission late Tuesday.

His body wasn't "located until Wednesday morning at dawn, when he was found dead at a Benghazi hospital, American and Libyan officials said." Libyan sources said he died of asphyxiation caused by smoke from ignited fires.

On September 12, the American Iranian Friendship Committee published a different version of events. Images reveal a rocket attack wasn't responsible. Apparently, Stevens "was dragged through the streets and tortured. They don't mind when it's Gaddafi or one of your brown people, but not one of us."

The Mossad-connected DebkaFile said gunmen attacking America's mission split in two groups. One fired rockets at the consulate "on the assumption that (Stevens') bodyguards would" whisk him out of harm's way under secret service protection.

The second group spotted his "getaway vehicle and the ambassador's armed escort and lay in wait to ambush them." They killed him and his bodyguards "at point blank range."

Washington responded its usual way. Obama promised revenge. He ordered stepped up diplomatic mission security. He sent in the marines. He dispatched two guided missile destroyers. Pentagon spokesman called these steps precautionary measures.

Washington spent more than two decades ravaging North Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia. Tuesday's attack suggests blowback. The suspiciously timed anti-Islamic hate film suggests Israeli involvement. Expect no official confirmation.

According to Haaretz, "Netanyahu has gone to war. Not against Iran. Not yet, at least. But his bellicose road to Tehran runs through Washington."

He picked "a very public fight with" Obama….(I)t's no great secret. (He) wants him defeated" in November. He wants Romney elected. He thinks he'll be quicker to attack Iran.

Perhaps so. Perhaps not. Rhetoric and policy bear little relationship to each other, especially during electoral campaigns.

If Netanyahu's involved in or responsible for the blasphemous film, violence it incited, and four American deaths, perhaps rock solid US/Israeli relations will suffer along with his own political future. What follows bears watching.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.

His new book is titled "How Wall Street Fleeces America: Privatized Banking, Government Collusion and Class War"

http://www.claritypress.com/Lendman.html

Visit his blog site at sjlendman.blogspot.com and listen to cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests on the Progressive Radio News Hour on the Progressive Radio Network Thursdays at 10AM US Central time and Saturdays and Sundays at noon. All programs are archived for easy listening.

http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/the-progressive-news-hour
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Langley Films Inc. (The CIA) joyfully having Satanist make Anti Islam Films

by Langley Films Inc. (The CIA) Friday, Sep. 14, 2012 at 10:58 PM

The Global Satanic Government (The CIA) Movie making Branch, Langley Films Inc. joyfully, Fanatically, Unashamedly, Satanically, Sadistically, and Ritually making Anti Islam Films in hopes of Smearing Islam and Allah, via their Satan Worshipers Posing as Jews Sidekicks, who get their Funds from US Tax Dollars Embezzled by US Satanic Law Fakirs in The GOP (Ron Paul Excluded) aka The Repiglicans and their Fellow US Satanic Law Fakirs in Congress and Senate The Repiglicrats from Public Funds like Education and Health Care, so they can make these Anti Islam Films and Smear The Name of Allah, while The Satan Worshipers Without Borders of Langley, Virginia (The CIA) joyfully, Fanatically, Satanically, Unashamedly, Sadistically, and Ritually conduct Post 9-11 War on Islam Gory Satanic Ritual Murder and Mayhem from US Embassies around the Globe, from Mosque Bombings and Shrine Bombings, to Church Bombings via The CIA Al CIA Duh Satanic Brotherhood Pretending to be Muslims, The Saudi Salafist and Other CIA Fanatical Satanic Cults Posing as Muslims, who get Financial Aid from The CIA's Satanic Royals in The Gulf Arab States. The Global Apostates of Hell From Langley, Virginia (The CIA) also run Post 9-11 War on Islam Devil's Drone Gory Satanic Ritual Serial Murders from these Embassies, while of course The CIA's fellow Global Satanic Cult Members The Gulf Arab Royals joyfully Refuel The CIA Devil's Drones at Military Bases Loaned to The CIA by The Gulf Arab Royals so they can Attack Islam. I should also point out That Violent Coups, like the one in Libya, are also Planned and Coordinated at US Embassies as are The CIA's Post 9-11 War on Islam Torture and Rendition of Civilians Programs Abroad. The CIA also used the Embassies to help Satanyahu's IsraHell Attack Lebanon in 2006.
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Langley Films Inc. - indeed

by crazy_inventor Saturday, Sep. 15, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Langley Films Inc. -...
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the whole thing has the strong unmistakeable smell of psyop

it's to distract us from our real enemy - the banksters and war mongers
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"dehumanizing Islam"

by just wondering Saturday, Sep. 15, 2012 at 10:30 AM

And just how does one "dehumanize" a medieval cancer?
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cancer and war cock - that's the power of the home depot.wv

by crazy_inventor Saturday, Sep. 15, 2012 at 12:13 PM

cancer and war cock ...
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the real cancer is from the chemicals, fossil fuel and radiation from big pharma, big oil and big nuclear

..but ignore all that and salivate to distractionary dog whistles bankrolled by - big pharma, big oil and big nuclear
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ha ha ha

by dual personalities? Saturday, Sep. 15, 2012 at 12:28 PM

amazing how Yada 'and' Hex keep getting into 'fights', huh?
no Corpus callosum perhaps?
Left evil side fighting right 'good' side? Another view into the dark halls of mental illness for sure.
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who's "yada" ?

by crazy_inventor Saturday, Sep. 15, 2012 at 2:00 PM

who's "yada&quo...
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..laughing in the know just a person
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agi-prop in bloom

by agi-prop Sunday, Sep. 16, 2012 at 6:54 AM

These incidents of deliberate hate have intended consequences. Incite anger and disgust at the obvious disrespect directed at cultural foundations intended to provoke a violent response. Unfortunately, we the American people are played by the same psychological operations to the same effect; as the false flag of 11 Sep. 2001 so clearly illustrates in vivid focus. these are very old tools that the overclass has used for centuries.
Only when we see the universal foot on our necks by the real pond scum, will we be able to throw them off and stomp the crap out of them.
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smell the fear

by laughing man Sunday, Sep. 16, 2012 at 12:36 PM

Another indymedia type is arrested for trying to set off a bomb in Chicago.

Why are we not surprised?
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smell the hypocrisy

by crazy_inventor Sunday, Sep. 16, 2012 at 12:49 PM

smell the hypocrisy...
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another indymedia troll type murdered 77 mostly kids

and actually set off _several_ bombs

why are 'we' not surprised?
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dependable, predictable and tiresome

by catbird Sunday, Sep. 16, 2012 at 3:03 PM

so... we have the dynamic solo jerk of a demented clown playing punch & judy with itself while managing to insinuate that non parrots for 'global warming' are somehow [ and this follows the Soviet ruse of declaring dissidents as having a mental disorder ] a threat?
What is a threat are psychos that post their fevered delusions on this wire, as a scroll back will show in ample clarity.
We have one very obviously disturbed individual pretending to be two different psychos, arguing with itself.
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non-penguins are no threat

by crazy_inventor Sunday, Sep. 16, 2012 at 3:51 PM

non-penguins are no ...
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they're threatENED
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again with the cartoon

by words fail Sunday, Sep. 16, 2012 at 5:38 PM

can't operate without your comics, huh?
like I said; dependable, predictable and tiresome.
Did I mention moronic?
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a picture is worth

by crazy_inventor Sunday, Sep. 16, 2012 at 6:45 PM

a picture is worth...
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a thousand thoughts
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Libya - 'Death To America' ..A Trend Alert

by crazy_inventor Monday, Sep. 17, 2012 at 9:50 AM

By Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
9-15-12



KINGSTON, NY -- Try to imagine more deluded reporting than this by America's Presstitute "free press." For 11 years Washington in pursuit of its rightful hegemony has been sending troops, bombers, jet fighters, helicopter gunships, drones, and assassination teams into seven Muslim countries. Two of the Muslim countries, Iraq and Libya, and perhaps more depending on how you see it, have been overthrown by Washington and left in chaos.

Washington's assaults on seven countries have blown up weddings, funerals, kids' soccer games, farm houses, hospitals, aid workers, schools, people walking along the streets, village elders, but the Muslims don't mind! They understand that the well-meaning Americans who love them and are committed to their human rights, are bringing them democracy and women's rights. The million or more dead, maimed, and displaced Muslims are a low price to be paid for liberation by Washington.

The Muslims understand that liberation has costs and were content with Washington's liberating violence until some idiot in California produced an anti-Islamic film. This film, and not Washington's predations, set the Muslim world alive with "hate America."

On the symbolic date of September 11, the US ambassador to Libya and some other Washington representatives were assassinated in Libya. According to the Presstitute media, the assassins did not kill the Americans because Washington destroyed their country and left them in chaos. The assassins killed the Americans because of an anti-Islamic film for which the murdered American representatives were not responsible.

This is the way Washington works and thinks. It is not Washington's slaughter of Muslims and control over their societies and political life that produces blowback. It is independent film-makers in California!

Deluded politicians in Washington, both Republicans and Democrats and, of course, the bought-and-paid-for "experts," brought these forceful rejections of America upon us all. Washington has not only attacked Muslim countries on the basis of concocted lies - weapons of mass destruction, al Qaeda connections, brutal dictators - but also destroyed the secular governments who held the Islamists in check, and prevented their attacks on US representatives and institutions.

In Egypt, long an American puppet states, the US Embassy was stormed and the US flag was torn apart. If only this was all. Washington could again purchase the Egyptian government, as it has since Anwar Sadat's assassination. But the ongoing news is that Anti-American protests are not only spreading across the Middle East but erupting throughout the world: Morocco, Sudan, Tunisia, Iraq, Yemen, Iran, Gaza, Bangladesh, Lebanon, London, and even into Israel.

The Obama administration is blaming al Qaeda, an Islamist group that the administration is currently supporting in its efforts to overthrow the secular Assad government in Syria and the group that the Obama administration used to overthrow the Libyan government, thus leaving a power vacuum in its place. Having destroyed the protection from Islamist attacks that secular Arab rulers provided Washington, Obama, in a show of force, has sent drones, aircraft carriers, Marines, and Tomahawk missile ships to Libya, raising the prospect that more schools and children's soccer games will be mistaken for jihadi encampments and blown up.

Attempting to politicize the turmoil, Presidential candidate Mitt Romney declared that the US needed him in the White House and as president he would provide "...the leadership that America respects and will keep us admired throughout the world."

What admiration is Romney talking about? Who are the admirers? In Egypt Muslims marching to the beat of "death to America," have not been deterred by police after three days of protests. CBS reports that "Police continue to fire tear gas in hopes it will deplete the strength of the demonstrators but they [the demonstrators] are proving relentless."

Kings Good, Dictators Bad! Unlike the Washington-supported Saudi royal family that absorbs most of their nation's oil income, Qaddafi allocated the oil money to Libyans. In Cynthia McKinney's excellent book, The Illegal War On Libya, Stephen Lendman writes that Qaddafi "wanted Libyans to share in the country's oil wealth, a notion foreign to America and other Western societies. Under his 1999 Decision No. 111, all Libyans received free healthcare, education, electricity, water, training, rehabilitation, housing assistance, disability, old-age benefits, interest-free state loans, as well as generous subsidies to study abroad, buy a new car, help when they marry, practically free gasoline, and more."

Why did such a relatively wealthy and egalitarian country need to be "liberated" by Washington and its NATO war criminal puppet state?

What was achieved by overthrowing a government that provided for its people in better ways than do Western governments for the people they govern?

The US is the new Rome, and Europe, the UK, Canada, Japan, and Australia are its tributary dominions along with the oil kingdoms.

In his book, Rubicon, Tom Holland describes what it is like to be a dominion of a powerful and ruthless military state:

"Prior to the cataclysms of B.C. 146, there had been some confusion as to the precise definition of 'freedom.' When the Romans claimed to be guaranteeing it, what did this mean? ... Roman and Greek interpretations of 'freedom' diverged. To the Romans ... freedom meant an opportunity for the city states to follow rules laid down by Roman commissioners."

This is the "freedom" that Washington imposes on the world. Washington is the übermensch. The rest of the world is Washington's playground. Ruling as Rome did, Washington installs puppets and relies on their obeisance.

In the end, empire destroys itself. Washington's hubris and arrogance is turning the world against America. Thanks to The Clintons, the Bushes, Cheney, Obama and the neoconservatives, America, instead of being loved or even respected, is hated with a rising passion. The widespread attacks on the imperial power's embassies are only the beginning.

As Gerald Celente had forecast, "The 1st Great War of the 21st Century" has begun.
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and here he is - standing proud and tall

by crazy_inventor Monday, Sep. 17, 2012 at 1:11 PM

and here he is - sta...
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Anti-Islam movie's producer may land in prison for probation violation.

The filmmaker responsible for the anti-Muslim film 'Innocence of Muslims,' was called in by Los Angeles police for questioning, county officials confirmed.

The California probation office is reviewing whether Nakoula, who was convicted on bank fraud charges, violated his parole by uploading the film onto the Internet.


The 13-minute video, portrayed the Prophet Mohammad engaging in a variety of offensive behavior.



Nakoula, known under at least a dozen other aliases including Sam Bacile, the name under which the controversial film was produced, had been previously convicted of crimes including bank fraud and the intention to manufacture methamphetamine.

In 2010, he was found guilty of opening bank accounts using stolen identities and Social Security numbers, and was sentenced to 21 months in prison. Nakoula was released in June 2011 on the condition of restricted Internet access for five years.
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he's so proud he wrapped his face in TP

by crazy_inventor Monday, Sep. 17, 2012 at 1:18 PM

he's so proud he wra...
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More US embassies are being attacked, in many cases with numerous casualties, in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco, Sudan, Lebanon, India, Balgadesh, Indonesia, and others.
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proudly sitting in the squad car

by crazy_inventor Monday, Sep. 17, 2012 at 1:26 PM

proudly sitting in t...
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"known under at least a dozen other aliases including Sam Bacile"

sounds just like the troll here
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and here he is NOT wrapped in TP

by crazy_inventor Monday, Sep. 17, 2012 at 1:28 PM

and here he is NOT w...
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I like him better wrapped ;)
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not so sure about that

by foward observer Monday, Sep. 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM

"A blasphemous anti-Muslim film incited violence. It killed Stevens and others."
Not so sure the film is responsible for the death of the 'ambassador' because this is looking like a Mossad hit and the demonstrations a crafted diversion for cover.
http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2012/09/who-really-killed-ambassador-stevens.html
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The Global Satanic Government (The CIA) joyfully using Satanic Films to Mock God

by Global Satanic Government The CIA Mocks God Monday, Sep. 17, 2012 at 4:17 PM

The Global Satanic Government (The CIA) and their Fellow Global Satanic Cult Members The CIA's Satan Worshipers Pretending to be Jews in Satanyahu's IsraHell joyfully, Fanatically, Unashamedly, Satanically, Sadistically, and Ritually using their Satanic Film Productions to Mock God, which is the Global Satanic Cult Members way of saying "You see Satan has the Power and Not God, just as The Global Apostates of Hell From Langley, Virginia (The CIA) have used their Gory Satanic Ritual Serial Murders of Civilians on 9-11, and their Post 9-11 CIA War on Islam Gory Satanic Ritual Serial Murders of Civilians, Post 9-11 War on Islam Global Impoverishment of The People Program, Post 9-11 CIA Satanic Serial Torture Programs, Post 9-11 CIA Backed Al CIA Duh Saudi Salafist Gory Satanic Ritual Serial Murders of Civilian Disguised as Islamic, etc., also as a way The CIA and their Fellow Global Satanic Cult Members Mock God, saying to The People of The World, "It is Satan and Not God That Weild's Power", hoping to Make The People of The World Loose Faith in God, by making them Feel Small and Insignificant, while The CIA and Their Fellow Global Satanic Cult Members continue to Joyfully, Fanatically, Unashamedly, Satanically, Sadistically, and Ritually Terrorize, Brutalize, and Impoverish The People of The World with Fiendish Glee. The same goes for The CIA's Post 9-11 Mosque Bombings, Church Bominbs, Koran Desecrations, and Shrine Attacks. It is The CIA's way of Mocking God, and using these Satanic Desecrations also as an Offering to Their False God Satan.
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out of context

by crazy_inventor Monday, Sep. 17, 2012 at 10:51 PM

"A blasphemous anti-Muslim film incited violence. It killed Stevens and others."

you haven't quoted anything in this thread - everything here states the psyop product which has actually been on youtube since july, was only a pretext. that these protests started on 9/11 - in all these places :

Egypt, Morocco, Sudan, Tunisia, Iraq, Yemen, Iran, Gaza, Bangladesh, Lebanon, London, and even into Israel.

THIS is what the "blasphemous anti-Muslim" 13 minute video is being used for - to provide political cover for all these protests in all these locations, by diverting us to a frame the corporate media constructed about just stevens.



my very first comment about this was :

it's crude psyop prepared by the usual suspects, released to provide cover for our imperialism so that people focus on outrage over the product and thus our reaction to it, rather than imperialism which is the actual issue



Under Qaddafi, all Libyans received free healthcare, education, electricity, water, training, rehabilitation, housing assistance, disability, old-age benefits, interest-free state loans, as well as generous subsidies to study abroad, buy a new car, help when they marry, practically free gasoline, and more.

now foreign oil companies are stealing their oil and the people are becoming poor - just as capitalism does everywhere it infests. THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE PROTESTING.

both the OP and the "death to america" trends piece above clearly spell this out
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what?

by f.o. Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 2:14 AM

"you haven't quoted anything in this thread -"
I was quoting Lendman's article.
crazy_inventor is right; or maybe just another agi-prop agent...
arguing with itself.
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the context is it's BS though

by crazy_inventor Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 2:49 AM

[find] didn't see it - probably because I searched with the quotes :

"A blasphemous anti-Muslim film incited violence. It killed Stevens and others."

while without them it did find it (I just double checked per your reply)

the context of the OP and comments is that the idea is BS, no one here actually claims this is true, and in fact provides actual names and pictures behind this deception. A few other media outlets had already jumped the gun (in a hurry to get this earth shattering story out) and wrongly identified several other people - even posted pictures of them - all while parroting the line that a 13 min youtube clip up since july was to blame.

the real person is posted above and the real reasons are laid out above..
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Webster Tarpley has a good analysis.

by f.o. Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 3:02 AM

The 'safe' house supposedly used was obviously not so safe.

Romney Campaign, CIA Mormon Mafia, John Bolton’s Islamophobia Network Stir Middle East Chaos to Get October Surprise Against Obama; CIA’s Gitmo-Trained Asset Qumu Prime Suspect in Death of Ambassador Stevens
http://tarpley.net/
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"As a realtor, I know that it simply can't be AMERICAN IMPERIALISM"

by crazy_inventor Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 3:42 AM

"As a realtor, ...
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posted on truthjihad.blogspot.com - September 13, 2012 10:09 AM

"It sounds for sure like it was a Mossad operation. The “real” “Sam Bacile” simply cannot be found.

As a realtor, I know that realtors can EASILY be found; that is their job to be easily found.

These Mossad agents knew exactly what they were doing when they made this film.

They very well may have been also the ones who killed the American ambassador, who knows.

They are the sickest people on earth with their double dealings and deception.

IsraHELL is truly a ghoulish place full of sickos.

W"
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See what I mean - this is a meme YOU are trying to carry, the person WAS found.. then you posted again knowing the actual facts but still pushing YOUR meme anyway:

September 14, 2012 5:53 AM
"It just gets murkier and murkier and the latest is that the film-maker is some guy named “Nakoula Basseley Nakoula” which may also be a pseudo-name, just like “Sam Bacile”.

Apparently he is a “Coptic Christian” however, I really doubt that he masterminded this thing.

It smacks of an Israeli Mossad provocateur kind of operation, as usual. Just like the 9-11 attacks where they used “useful idiots” to look like they were the ones who brought the buildings down, when perhaps the stooges/patsies/recruits were on the planes, what really brought the buildings down into their footprints including Building 7, were the explosives that the Israeli Mossad planted in the buildings. (and so on)
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then 2 days later here when I confirmed with pictures AND told the real story - that the issue is american global imperialism and 9/11 related protests worldwide, THEN you posted the above meme again @

Sunday, Sep. 16, 2012 at 6:15 PM

if it's all the israelis - the mossad - zionist's fault then you don't have to consider AMERICAN IMPERIALISM as the real reason.. As Lendman, Roberts and I are all stating.

That's the context of this thread - AMERICAN IMPERIALISM IS THE CAUSE.

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not quite

by f.o. Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 6:55 AM

The dark networks go way beyond "American Imperialism" it is just another facet of global government with the criminal banking cartel pulling the strings and using American muscle to get it done while crashing the economy of the world. They hope to acquire the assets of the world by buying them up on pennies to the dollar after the chaos of this crash. America is another victim of this criminality.
The people have to regain control of this criminal enterprise and sanction the perps, traitors and agents of this world wide assault and the overclass families who engineered it.
The analysis given by Tarpley fits all the parameters of motive opportunity and method explaining the real forces involved in this event.
http://tarpley.net/
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exxonsecrets.org: Roy Spencer

by crazy_inventor Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 7:20 AM

ExxonSecrets Factsheet: Roy W. Spencer

http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/personfactsheet.php?id=19

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Roy_Spencer

Spencer is on the nine-member board of the antiregulation, Scaife- and Bradley-funded Marshall Institute.


RealClimate: How to cook a graph in three easy lessons.
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/05/how-to-cook-a-graph-in-three-easy-lessons/

http://www.realclimate.org/wiki/index.php?title=Roy_Spencer

Climate-science contrarian Roy Spencer's oil-industry ties.
$840,000 since 1998, according to ExxonSecrets.org database.

http://www.southernstudies.org/2011/09/climate-science-contrarian-roy-spencers-oil-industry-ties.html

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uhh, dickweed....

by got lost? Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 7:26 AM

aren't you bleating on the wrong thread? got lost again, huh?
that's easy to do when you're a psycho...
the "climate warming" thread is over here
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2004/03/104594_comment.php#255678
I was posting about the real players in this event and its relationship to the economic crash, the CIA / Mossad connection and Tarpley's analysis.
gonna post another stupid cartoon?
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quite - a wingnut distraction

by crazy_inventor Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 7:36 AM

quite - a wingnut di...
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The hate talk radio wingnuts are desperately trying to deflect this issue to other parties..

- let's see, next week's community affairs explains :

"The entire republican party is in a state of complete and utter panic. Republican leaders are tripping all over each other to be next in line for this insane shark jumping contest they've started.

No doubt the ditto-heads are even now hunkering down.

- dig in and double down, that's all they know how to do.

These are people not playing with a full deck, knowing that, if it wasn't for "those people" they'd be CEO of a fortune 500 company.

Fortunately rush's show is circling the drain, due the continued fleeing of advertiser's.

soon, very soon, after the next round of layoffs, when stations become 100 % voice tracked and syndicated, and the end approaches, with the bulk of the loans coming due, in a couple of years, shit channel will finally die the death it so deserves.

This pig talks like he's trying to shit his pants as the same time. What a worthless piece of white trash.

You have to wonder if his comments will ever reach a point where those on the right, who would normally agree with this sort of thing, begin to question the sanity, if not the value, of any of it.

I mean, how long can one march along, in this shit parade, which Limbaugh is conducting, before the stench begins to offend them?



It's a Power trip

Limbaugh just likes to see his puppets dance.

The crazier the theory they bite into, the more it secures his legendary status as an "Influential Personality."


- in a village of the blind, the one eyed head is king."
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"that's easy to do when you" have a life

by crazy_inventor Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 7:44 AM

"that's easy to...
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yes I happen to be BUSY doing other things..

http://www.stunnel.org/docs.html
stunnel: Documentation

oh and here's another cartoon you'll like ^
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more crap from the same asshole

by f.o. Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 7:56 AM


more stupid cartoons
distraction and stupidity seem to be the only tools in your playpen, huh?
Is this to cover over the real issues in the agi-prop of this anti-Islamic film?
The reader may wish scroll up and see the drivel posted to hide and real analysis of this event.
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the imperialists are out of control

by crazy_inventor Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 7:59 AM

the imperialists are...
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there - fixed that for you ;)
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you fixed your psychopathy?

by f.o. Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 8:11 AM

poor mentally crippled Yada, can't even keep the threads straight but it sure knows how to post stupid graphics. It just can't seem to fix its fixations, obsessions and compulsions...
The killing of this ambassador event as described by Webster Tarpley is right on target. Something this psychopath is trying to spam over.
Scroll up and see for yourself, dear readers. See the drivel used...
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that's because I have tons of graphics

by crazy_inventor Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 8:27 AM

that's because I hav...
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hundreds of thousands in fact
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More More More !!!

by hey crazy inventor Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 11:29 AM

more cartoons, please !!! it's the only way stupid, ignorant, fascist fools can learn anything !!!
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so very screwed up

by crazy_inventor Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 2:29 PM

so very screwed up...
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The imperialists attack innocent people, and the cowardly appeasers of the right say nothing.
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way beyond imperialism

by banker's dark webs Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 4:52 PM

we all know the USA is slated for dis-assembly through the criminal financial system and the ruinous wars by all the dark networks centered in the banking families who run the world.
Causing the world to hate the nation that was once a light of promise. They have bought our corrupt congress, and corrupted the other branches that were meant to serve the people.
It's banking Imperialism if it's anything.
They're the scum on the top of the pond. Pond scum. How do we ride ourselves of them without draining the pond?
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america was founded on the biggest genocide in history

by crazy_inventor Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 5:14 PM

> the nation that was once a light of promise.

america was founded on the genocide of > 100 million Indians, by rich white slave owners.

American Holocaust: The Conquest of the New World

112.5 million people were living in the Americas when Columbus arrived

In his book American Holocaust, David Stannard argues that the destruction of the aboriginal peoples of the Americas, in a "string of genocide campaigns" by Europeans and their descendants, was the most massive act of genocide in the history of the world.

Stannard's perspective has been further refined by Ward Churchill, who has said "it was precisely malice, not nature, that did the deed.
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Ward Churchill?

by laughing man Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 5:25 PM

I bestow upon you all the credibility of a bowel movement.
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how to argue with laughing man

by crazy_inventor Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2012 at 7:26 PM

how to argue with la...
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dig in and double down
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Over reaction to provoking attacks

by religious extremist = CIA PsyOps Thursday, Sep. 20, 2012 at 1:05 PM

The predictable over reaction to an offensive and stupid movie came in the form of violent attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Libya from Islamist extremists. The movie in question by one "Sam Bacile" was also the product of religious extremism.

So one religious extremist (Zionist Sam "Mr. Mossad" Bacile) can film a stupid low budget movie and provoke civil unrest and terrorist attacks on U.S. Embassy officials.

Can anyone burn a Koran or make a stupid movie and then incite riots in the Middle East?

Sounds like a simple plan for never ending warfare.

The religious extremists on both sides of the Middle Eastern conflict (Judeo-Christian Zionists vs. Islam) and the secondary internal conflicts within Islam (Sunni vs. Shia) are responsible for inflaming rhetoric and inciting youth and emotionally unstable individuals to violence.

The most logical step would be to round up ALL religious extremists (Zionists and Islamists) and confine them to a mental institution along with the other people who are a danger to self and/or others.

Instead of assuming positions of leadership in human society ALL religious extremists will be labeled and identified as such by psychological testing and then be placed under psychiatric care.

We the people will NOT enable religious extremists of ANY type to engage the global population in never ending warfare.




"Anxiety May Be at Root of Religious Extremism, Researchers Find"


ScienceDaily (July 6, 2010) — Anxiety and uncertainty can cause us to become more idealistic and more radical in our religious beliefs, according to new findings by York University researchers, published in this month's issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.



In a series of studies, more than 600 participants were placed in anxiety-provoking or neutral situations and then asked to describe their personal goals and rate their degree of conviction for their religious ideals. This included asking participants whether they would give their lives for their faith or support a war in its defence.

Across all studies, anxious conditions caused participants to become more eagerly engaged in their ideals and extreme in their religious convictions. In one study, mulling over a personal dilemma caused a general surge toward more idealistic personal goals. In another, struggling with a confusing mathematical passage caused a spike in radical religious extremes. In yet another, reflecting on relationship uncertainties caused the same religious zeal reaction.

Researchers found that religious zeal reactions were most pronounced among participants with bold personalities (defined as having high self-esteem and being action-oriented, eager and tenacious), who were already vulnerable to anxiety, and felt most hopeless about their daily goals in life.

A basic motivational process called Reactive Approach Motivation (RAM) is responsible, according to lead researcher Ian McGregor, Associate Professor in York's Department of Psychology, Faculty of Health. "Approach motivation is a tenacious state in which people become 'locked and loaded' on whatever goal or ideal they are promoting. They feel powerful, and thoughts and feelings related to other issues recede," he says.

"RAM is usually an adaptive goal regulation process that can re-orient people toward alternative avenues for effective goal pursuit when they hit a snag. Our research shows that humans can sometimes co-opt RAM for short term relief from anxiety, however. By simply promoting ideals and convictions in their own minds, people can activate approach motivation, narrow their motivational focus away from anxious problems, and feel serene as a result," says McGregor.

Researchers also measured participants' superstitious beliefs and deference toward a controlling God in order to distinguish religious zeal from meeker forms of devotion. "Anxiety-provoking threats sometimes also cause people to become paranoid and more submissive to externally-controlling forces, so we wanted to rule out that interpretation for our results," he says. Anxious uncertainty had no effect on either superstition or religious submission.

Findings published last year in the journal Psychological Science by the same authors and collaborators at the University of Toronto found that strong religious beliefs are associated with low activity in the anterior cingulate cortex, the part of the brain that becomes active in anxious predicaments.

"Taken together, the results of this research program suggest that bold but vulnerable people gravitate to idealistic and religious extremes for relief from anxiety," McGregor says."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100706103404.htm


When Karl Marx called religion the "opiate of the people", he didn't yet know about the effects of crack cocaine. It seems that the three Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) should be called the "crack cocaine of the people" due to their tendency to extreme violence.



"1.5. Monotheism and Violent Intolerance

There is a particular inclination towards organized violence in the histories of monotheistic religions (those with just one god). Monotheism is embodied by three world religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam.


“The God of the Abrahamic religions, so far as it is concerned in The Koran, and The Bible and in history, hates opposing Gods. The Israelites are described as being commanded by God, time and time again, to wage war against and kill nonbelieving pagans because they dare to worship icons, fake gods, and any number of things that are not-Jehovah. Worshipping wrongly is one of the traditional Ten Commandments, and is consistently one of the most punished crimes in the holy texts of Jews, Christians and Muslims. Such texts heralded a new type of religion, fundamentally hostile to all other religions. Yet Christianity started out tolerant and peaceful: the first Christians, the gnostics and ebionites, accepted respectively that their religion was one interpretation of the truth amongst many, or that it was a devout, personal path and not something that could be enforced on to others. Centuries later, though, the Nicene Christians arose and murdered their more peaceful predecessors, burning their books and preparing Christianity to embrace the Dark Ages like no other religion could have, or would have. Put into the official canon of the Christian Bible were books like the First Epistle of John; 1 John 5:1-5,10 continued to promote the idea that having wrong beliefs made you worthless before God. It all made the new monotheism sectarian, schismatic and aggressive; social and moral laws were deemed inferior to the new emphasis on textual fundamentalism. One historian writes that "when he convened the Great Council of Nicaea, Constantine could not have imagined that the bishops would be meeting almost every year to rule on charges of criminal activity and heresy"11. The emphasis on correctness of individual belief and individual salvation has led monotheism down an intolerance and often violent path in history.”

"Religious Tolerance for Competing Ideas: Why is Monotheism Intolerant?" by Vexen Crabtree (2008)

http://www.humanreligions.info/violence_and_crime.html


Really and truly, am tired of playing referee between the three Abrahamic religions. If the religious extremists want to kill each other off they should do so without involving everyone else who doesn't even believe in their violent sky gods.

For my next event i will burn a Torah, Bible and Koran ALL together in the same fire at the same time! Am not bias, i hate ALL three Abrahamic religions equally!!

Proud pagan for life until death!

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..and imperialism never crossed your lips

by crazy_inventor Thursday, Sep. 20, 2012 at 1:38 PM

"The most logical step would be to round up ALL war profiteers (Zionists and Americans) and confine them to a mental institution along with the other people who are a danger to self and/or others."

there - fixed that for you

- but of course this will never happen so just keep war profiteering !

yeah ! problem deflected !


"the pentacunt may be sucking america dry, Researchers Find"

fixed that too..
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End of Religious Intolerance from Sword of Logic

by Moving Away From Abrahamic Religions Thursday, Sep. 20, 2012 at 2:18 PM

This really sums up the problems with religious extremism. Pagans have suffered greatly at the hands of the so-called "believers" of the Abrahamic religions. Pagans are not a drain on society, religious inspired imperialism and military-industrial complex are a drain on lives and resources!!


Time to Move On: Religion Has Cost Too Much

By Vexen Crabtree 2010 Feb 09


1. Monotheism and Violence Intolerance

1.1. The Violent Defence of Religion Derives From Secret Doubt

I find no better way to start this page off by than quoting from my page "Why Question Beliefs?" (2009):




Atheists and scientists do not kill each other over their beliefs. The adherents of superstring theory have never killed opposing theorists, and Lamarckian Evolutionists never killed any Darwinian Evolutionists on account of their beliefs. Newton and Einstein may have disagreed, but they refrained from violently attacking each other's followers. Like them, Arius and Athanasius disagreed over theory in the 4th century, although in their case it wasn't physics, but about the nature of Christ. The Arians and the Nicene Christians, however, soon ended up damning each other to hell because of the other's "wrong" beliefs, and then resorted to murder, aggression and burning until the Arians had been wiped out. Well, that is one way to settle a theoretical dispute. But why is it the religious way? There is something about religious beliefs that leads to violent intolerance. I think it is this: the beliefs that you cherish, but which you think are maybe silly or untrue, are the beliefs that you will defend most irrationally and most aggressively. It's a defence mechanism. Rather than subject dodgy beliefs to the rigors of debate and questioning, it is easier to claim outrage and act aggressively when dodgy beliefs are challenged. This is why scientists, who want to learn which theories best describe the truth, actively engage in debate without ever, in history, killing each other over their differences with other strands of scientists.


Even standard sociological inquiries about beliefs and the history of beliefs can be found offensive simply because the attempts to rationally describe beliefs requires questions to be asked about how the beliefs work.

“The sociologist of religion may also offend a person's religious sensibilities by subjecting his or her beliefs to rational scrutiny.”

"Gods in the Global Village" by Lester R. Kurtz (2007)1

A commentator said to me that it would do no good to eradicate religion. He said "then they'd just kill each other in the name of something else. Like which football team they support!". I still think we would be better off. Football teams do not claim to be divinely inspired. They do not force upon people any particular intellectual framework, nor link it to moral theory. Under footballism, people are still free to enquire about the world with a free mind. The fact that religions claim divinity, that they claim absolute truth and link morality, society, authority and philosophy all into one whole, makes people more likely to fight and die for them. What is so weak about religious truths that they require defending with such bloodshed? It is this: People would rather cling to wishful thinking and false hopes, rather than face the complex realities of life. Simple answers appeal to people more than complicated scientific ones.

Because religious people secretly doubt religious beliefs, they do not permit their beliefs to be calmly questioned. They fear that their beliefs will unravel. Instead, they declare that faith is greater than intellectualism (in other words: they want to continue believing even though the evidence is against them). They declare that it is offensive to question their beliefs. They declare that questions are wrong! And if you persist in your questioning as a person, they'll declare you an intolerant bigot. If two such groups of faithful people meet, the consequences are dangerous for all in their midst. The starting point of this slippery slope was when individuals ceased to allow their beliefs to be calmly debated and questioned.”

"Why Question Beliefs?: 1.3. Faith: Why Religious Beliefs Are so Vehemently Defended"
Vexen Crabtree (2009)


Pagan literature is fond of a phrase used to emplore the world not to return to the rule of faith-based intolerance and superstition: "Never Again the Burning Times". It is a pledge never to let the world fall again into an age of faith. However Humanity continues to fail, because a dark age continues to engulf much of the world even in the twentyfirst century.

Now, much of the Muslim and Arab world is enshrouded in an age of faith so dark that once again, religious police and theocratic regimes enforce forms of religion on the people. Massive ignorance exists of science, human rights and comparative religion because it is unlawful to teach anything that contradicts the Qur'an. The Muslim world today is in a dark age, as was Christianity before it.


“As the Roman Empire progressed, scientific knowledge and academia flourished as best as was possible in the ancient world. Europe was largely the beneficiary of this knowledge "but during the Dark Ages in Western Europe the ability to read and write had become largely confined to the clergy, as too had a knowledge of the Latin tongue"13. After the collapse of the Roman Empire, the only major European power that remained was that of the Catholic Church, which had largely become synonymous with all forms of rulership. Under its influence, science was all but destroyed as Church dogma and doctrine was violently enforced. Philosophical works were burned and lost, medicine and psychology set back hundreds of years. Neurologists Davison & Neale note during the "Dark Ages for all medicine [...] Christian monasteries, through their missionary and educational work, replaced physicians as healers and authorities on mental disorder. [...] When monks cared for the mentally disordered, they prayed over them and touched them with relics or they concocted fantastic potions for them to drink in the waning phase of the moon"14. The Age of Faith was an era of Christian fundamentalism and superstition, of theocracy (rule by religion). During this time, the Arab world carried the torch of knowledge and surpassed Europe in its understanding of philosophy, mathematics, and the sciences in general.

But then the Arab world itself fell under increasingly conservative Islam. Some Universities in Europe (three existed by 1200CE), independent from most constraints, had survived. They obtained Greek knowledge about the world via Arab translations15. The spark of the Enlightenment set fires under the authority of the Church in the West, and the West emerged from its dark ages as the Arab world plunged into its own, from which it has not yet emerged. [...]

The Arab world is not synonymous with the Muslim world, but, in the overlap between the two we see a lack of knowledge of science that is unimaginable to those brought up in developed Western countries. Those who do at least know of scientific theories are very likely to reject them as untrue. The Arab world is still in the depths of a Muslim Dark Ages, and although authors from time to time hail signs of an Islamic enlightenment, one has not yet come to pass, and for every step forward in one area of public engagement with science, there seems to be equal steps backwards elsewhere.”

"Science: Its Character and History: 6.2. A Dark Ages of the Past: Science and Knowledge in Christian Europe" by Vexen Crabtree (2006)

Ellerbe, quoted below, devotes a few entire chapters of her book "The Dark Side of Christian History" by Helen Ellerbe (1995) to the causes, duration and lasting effects of the dark ages on civilisation:


“The Church all but wiped out education, technology, science, medicine, history, art and commerce. The Church amassed enormous wealth as the rest of society languished in the dark ages. When dramatic social changes after the turn of the millennium brought an end to the isolation of the era, the Church fought to maintain its supremacy and control. It rallied an increasingly dissident society against perceived enemies, instigating attacks upon Muslims, Eastern Orthodox Christians, and Jews. When these crusades failed to subdue dissent, the Church turned its force against European society itself, launching a brutal assault upon southern France and instituting the Inquisition.”

"The Dark Side of Christian History" by Helen Ellerbe (1995)16


http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/time_to_move_on.html


Pagans like myself will do everything in our power to prevent religious extremists from either Judeo-Christianity or Islam from being in positions of power ever again. Their time on Earth is finished. The religious extremists should get ready for a trip to the "funny farm" if they're going to keep spewing religious based hatred and intolerance from the pulpit, my goal will be to send them away for psychiatric treatment!!


"i hear your empire down"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VuzkzlqP9A&feature=related
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"The business of America is war -

by crazy_inventor Thursday, Sep. 20, 2012 at 2:28 PM

- imperial dominance, and corporate empowerment.

Ravaging one country after another follows.

Fear is created and manipulated to facilitate what should be condemned."

Insted we get repeated attempts to distract away from the source of the violence, by framing it as a religious problem - like above..

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Religion acts to defy logical thinking

by religion add fuel to fire of imperialism Saturday, Sep. 22, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Empire building has always been supported by religious hype and extremism, from "Manifest Destiny" in the U.S. and beginning as early as the Burning Times and Inquisition. The Roman Empire persecution of the early Christians was also religiously motivated. The Roman Empire was a bad example of paganism, it shows that ANY religion can be used by tyrants for purposes of expansive militarism and occupations.

The reason that religion and empire are hopelessly linked is that the citizens of empire must be delusional enough from religious extremism to support such criminal acts by their government against people in other nations.

The source of the religious extremism are some minority extremists from both sides that push easily influenced people into becoming soldiers. Most young people in the U.S., Israel or Iran would not willingly sacrifice their lives to go and kill some strangers unless they were tricked by their respective leaders into believing that these strangers wished them harm.

Resources like petroleum may be the true source of the Middle East military conflicts, though for our leaders to openly admit this and to demand the youth of the U.S. sacrifice their lives for cheaper oil would not be acceptable, so our leaders must devise some religious based threat to motivate our nation's impressionable youth to give up school, family and work to become soldiers.

There are plenty of lies coming from Islamist extremists, especially those who seek to cover up their own past links to paganism. The daughters of Allah; Al Lat, Al Uzza and Menat are ignored and insulted by the right wing fundamentalist Islamists despite their importance to early Muslims as intercessors between humans and Allah. How can a true Muslim claim to love Allah while simultaneously denouncing Allah's daughters as "infidels"?



Background on pre-Islamic Arabic Paganism;

Daughters of Allah:-


It is an undeniable fact of history that before Muhammed was born, in the Pagan Arabian religion, Allah was the name of the principal deity in Mecca who had three daughters (S53:19/20): Uzzah; Lat; Manat. According to their traditions they acted as Allah's INTERCESSORS.

The Goddesses Al-Uzza, Al-Lat and Manat formed a triad in pre-Islamic Arabia.

The three were worshipped as uncut aniconic stones. They were widely worshipped: from Nabatean Petra in the North to the legendary Kingdoms of Arabia Felix in the South, including Saba, the Biblical Sheba; as far east as Iran and Palmyra; and the three of them were very popular Goddesses in Mecca at the time of Muhammad.

Sometimes the three of them are referred to as the daughters of Allah; sometimes Manat and Al-Lat are considered daughters of Al-Uzza.

Al-Uzza, "the Strong One", "The Most Mighty", "The Mighty One" was as mentioned earlier, a pre-Islamic Arabian goddess, the virgin warrior and youngest in the triad of goddesses was one of the most venerated Arab Deities, and the Goddess of the morning and evening star, the planet Venus and was a blood-thirsty goddess which requires sacrifices; both animal and human.





Despite the 'Islamization' of pagan Arabian religion, the 'Muslim' version of Allah did not escape his two daughters al Lat and al Uzza since they appear on top of almost every mosque and on the flags of several 'Muslim' countries. These are the Crescent (al Lat) and the Star/ Planet (al Uzza).

Muhammad, in the final analysis, had no choice but to keep almost 99% of pagan Arabian traditions and fetishes and only succeeded in destroying all the other rock gods and goddesses associated with Allah.

The same followers of Muhammad who rage against the pagans and Christians as idolators, are actually idolators 'par excellence' themselves, since they still venerate the same Arabian pagan symbols of their ancestors whom Muhammad and his Quran so assiduously insulted and consigned to Hell and Perdition.

20: 109 On that Day shall no intercession avail except for those for whom permission has been granted by (Allah) Most Gracious and whose word is acceptable to Him.

In Arabian paganism, the idea of subordinate divine beings acting as mediators and intercessors with Allah is a recorded fact. That Muhammad actually once thought of the three goddesses as interceding angels is shown by his later addition to the aforementioned
Sura 53.26-29:

53: 26 How many so ever be the angels in the heavens their intercession will avail nothing except after Allah has given leave for whom He pleases and that he is acceptable to Him. Verily it is they who believe not in the life to come, who name the angels with names of females: But herein they have no knowledge: they follow a mere conceit; and mere conceit can never take the place of acceptance of truth.'

Here Muhammad implies, that the goddesses are in reality angels, to whom the pagans in their ignorance have given feminine names (comp. 37, 149-50: 43.18). He also recognizes, albeit with strict reservations, the right of the angels to make intercession.


http://www.inthenameofallah.org/Daughters%20of%20Allah.html


The Chrisitans have covered up a great deal of their own history with paganism, such as the unknown birthdate of Jesus being celebrated only a few days away from the pagan celebration of Yule.


In 350, Pope Julius I declared that Christ's birth would be celebrated on December 25. There is little doubt that he was trying to make it as painless as possible for pagan Romans (who remained a majority at that time) to convert to Christianity. The new religion went down a bit easier, knowing that their feasts would not be taken away from them.

http://www.essortment.com/christmas-pagan-origins-42543.html

These were both political decisions by Mohammad and Pope Julius to ease tensions between the majority pagans and the "newcomer" religions of Islam and Christianity.

So yes, empire building was the true goal and religion became the mask worn to support the building of empire.

IF we removed religion from U.S. empire and applied only pure logic based upon the scientific method, how many people would still be willing to sacrifice their lives, limbs, eyes or other significant body parts to obtain cheaper oil??


My new food source are the religious extremists, starting with Christian Zionist John Hagee from Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas. Mr. Hagee has repeatedly encouraged excessive military action against Palestinians through lobbying his politician allies such as GW Bush and Mitt "47%" Romney.

Anyone who claims that Mr. John Hagee and his merry band of Christian Zionists do not have any influence in Middle Eastern politics is living in a state of pure ignorance, blissful or otherwise


Background on Hagee and CUFI (Christians United For Israel)


Rev. Hagee Does AIPAC

A real historic turning point came for aipac when it opened up its coveted platform to Rev. John Hagee, who is founder of the organization "Christians United for Israel" (CUFI) at their annual Policy Conference (March 2007) in Washington DC . He was a keynote speaker on Sunday night, and the response to his speech (that can be read in full here) was enthusiastic overall. Yet even among aipac faithful there was trepidation. After all, Hagee's agenda, like that of the Christian Zionist Right in general, is extremely militaristic (he believes that the coming "nuclear showdown with Iran is a certainty"). He even has implied support for Yigal Amir, the assassin of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. He opposes any compromise with Palestinians. Hagee's ideology also is anti-Semitic in that he believes that the "rebellion" of the Jews caused the Holocaust, and that the Holocaust was God's way of forcing Jews to move to Israel. So this is a new and dangerous alliance, an embrace of a real loony ideology. Thanks to the leadership of AIPAC, the likes of Hagee has now been brought to the mainstream. He shares a stage not only with Dick Cheney but also with "liberal" Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi. Strange bedfellows indeed.

http://www.stopaipac.org/christianright.htm

"Hagee pretends the relationship between Christians and Jews in biblical times still applies today.

He uses ‘mushroom management’ methods – keep ‘em in the dark and keep shoveling horse manure at ‘em. If his Cornerstone church followers bothered to take an independent trip to the West Bank and Gaza – and I do mean independent, not an Israeli bus tour with guides trained by the Tel Aviv propaganda department (or by Hagee) – they’d quickly discover the unpalatable truth. The glitzy Hagee empire, and others like it, would then crumble."

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/03/30/the-zionist-cuckoos-in-christianitys-nest/.



This Christian Zionist nonsense spouted by Mr. John Hagee and his ilk is directly responsible for inflaming tensions and brainwashing youth into thinking they are sacrificing life and limb for some "Holy" cause.


So yes, i am on the hunt and Mr. John Hagee is my favorite food source.

Dedicate this verse to Mr. John Hagee;

"Mouth is alive, juices like wine
and i'm hungry like the wolf

You'll feel my heat i'm just a moment behind.

In touch with the ground, i'm on the hunt i'm after you!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOg5VxrRTi0&feature=related



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how offensive!

by Hmph! Monday, Sep. 24, 2012 at 3:08 PM

how offensive!...
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How offensive!
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back to that, huh?

by Star & Swastika Monday, Sep. 24, 2012 at 3:52 PM

back to that, huh?...
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I think this tired canard is intolerable. No one is doing anti-Jew propaganda except the zionists by their psychopathic racism and its attendant blow-back. And paranoia. But if you're going to compare the zionist star with a swastika, we should look at the coin of the Palestine Project that Gobbles issued.
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