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Nazi Holocaust Deniers Move to Fountain Valley

by SoCal AntiFa Tuesday, Jan. 26, 2010 at 10:30 PM
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The Nazi and Holocaust deniers of the Institute for Historical Review with it's Jew hating "director" Mark Weber have moved from its base in Costa Mesa to a new location in Fountain Valley, California.

IHR lease a building at 10605 Lawson River Ave, Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714)593-9725 from Hunsaker Development Company (714)962-5557 under the name LSF,Inc. (Legion of the Survival of Freedom).

Hunsaker Property Management corporate number is (949)863-1390 call this company and ask them why they are leasing a building to Nazis, Holocaust deniers and Jew haters.
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tools of lies

by PrionPartyy Wednesday, Jan. 27, 2010 at 11:28 AM

Well, in my search, there sure are a bunch of people who call the IHR a bunch of NAZIs. But the evidence of their actual actions indicates they are nothing of the sort.

Looks like the bookburner types arejust trying to shut them down for no good reason.

Historic revision? First, you research, then you review, and if warrented, you revise. That is what history is all about. Dunping the vacant propaganda that passes as history and looking at what actualy happend.

If you are going to do away with historic revision, then why stop there? Do away with historic review and historic research as well. Just tell us what to believe and try to trash anyone who chooses not to buy into your vacant allegations. Cast them into the lions den for failing to bow down to your idols. That is what you book burner types are all about. What you NAZI bookburner types are all about.

You book burner types have no right to tell anyone what to believe. If you would like, you can present actual evidence that the holocaust is not a pile of made up propaganda. But name calling and tryng to get revisionists shut down just showcases that you can't present any actual evidence that the holocaust is something other than a pile of made up propaganda.
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"You book burner types have no right to tell anyone what to believe"

by little green fucktard Thursday, Jan. 28, 2010 at 6:23 AM

"You book burner types have no right to tell anyone what to believe"

That was written by a Brown Shirt propagandist who writes "murderous theft of Palestinian lands" like a mynah bird.
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thanks for the props

by PrionPartyy Thursday, Jan. 28, 2010 at 3:28 PM

"Brown Shirt"?

What, because you say so.

"like a mynah bird"?

What, because you say so?
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what an idiot

by what an idiot Friday, Jan. 29, 2010 at 7:27 AM

"You book burner types have no right to tell anyone what to believe."

We're not telling you that *can't* believe that the Jews faked the Holocaust. We're just telling you that you have to be a first-class idiot to believe it, and a Jew-hater as well.

In other words, you'd have to be someone like PrionPartyy.
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funny thing

by PP and "not a ..." Friday, Jan. 29, 2010 at 10:25 AM

Why are these two posters using the same routing system?
the Tor kind of routing system.
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"Why are these two posters using the same routing system?"

by an even better question Friday, Jan. 29, 2010 at 3:09 PM

And just how would the poster know what ANYone here is using?
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you created a false flag PPyy to slander

by PrionPartyy Friday, Jan. 29, 2010 at 4:45 PM

I don't recall ever suggesting the Jews faked the holocaust.

I'm not even sure what you mean by that. Faked the holocaust? Could you add anything of substance so that others can know what you mean.

And what is this "the Jews" crap? What, like some sort of conspiracy of ALL Jewish people? Nope, again, it wasn't me you were refering to.

I know that the guy who came to our elementary school to lie to us inocent little children about the holocaust said he was Jewish. But I have no idea wether or not he was an actual Jew. And I haven't ever wondered wether or not he was a part of any conspiracy of ALL Jews to lie to children. As far as I know, he could have been a KKK nut who was trying to discreadit Jews as liars. But that would call for speculation, and I try not to spend my time speculating.

Nope, I don't really rant about who has been lying to us all these decades. Just that someone has been lying to us all these decades. Do some reserch of what I actualy have writen and you will see I refer to "someone" but never try to speculate on whom that someone has been. The WHO just doesn't seem all that important for understanding the what.

I do often say that if Zionists (who are some of the many Jews) are going to use the vacant allegations of the holocaust to rationalize their bloodsoaked murderous theft of Palestinian lands , then it is the onus of the Zionists to present some actual evidence. Not that what may or may not have happened thousands of miles away from Palestine is ever going to denigrate the Palestinian people's basic human right not to be destroyed by murderous thieving Zionist crusaders. Read up on the book of Job if you are having trouble figuring that one out.

I also say that if US political whores (Wether Jews or OTJ) are going use the vacant holocaust allegations to sell out thier fellow American's peace by supplying the murderous thieving Zionist crusaders with the means to destroy our Palestinian neighbors, in exchange for the ZIonist enabler's (wether Jews or OTJ) votes and campain contributions, then the onus is also on them to provide some actual evidence.

So far, the Zionists and their enablers have failed to provide any actual evidnce that the holocaust story, as told so far, has any merit. Upon research and review, what has passed as evidence to many people as evidence of the holocaust story has turned out to be nothing of substance and has exposed that "someone" has been lying to us all for all these decades.

If you would like to take on what I have actualy writen, that would be great. But trying to trash a fictitious PrionPartyy that you yourself created just showcases that you have nothing of substance.
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can't teach a pig to sing

by and can't get Prion's head out of his ass Saturday, Jan. 30, 2010 at 4:14 PM

"then it is the onus of the Zionists to present some actual evidence."

Well, ya raving Jew-hating fuckwad, I did that, but your tiny little brain couldn't handle it, so you had to go back to pretending that nobody had ever presented any actual evidence.

Remind me again -- why does LA Indymedia let antisemites like PrionPartyy hang out here?
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aren't they happy now

by aren't you glad? Sunday, Jan. 31, 2010 at 6:47 PM

I mean are you glad you *unhid* this piece of shit post?
Nice going.
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psychobabbling

by Fredfa Monday, Feb. 01, 2010 at 7:12 AM

"I mean are you glad you *unhid* this piece of shit post?
Nice going."

Can anybody interpret this?
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cut em off at the pass

by PrionPartyy Tuesday, Feb. 02, 2010 at 10:04 AM

You say you presented actual evidence. What, because you say you did???

You say others presented actual evidence. What, because you say they did???

You and others might have presented what PASSES for actual evidence. But what PASSES for actual evidence in the court of public opinion turns out to be not so much actual evidence.

Think of an actual court of law. A prosicutor or plaintif present information or material things AS evidence. THEN, the defense gets a chance to challenge the veracity of what was presented.

And the defense presents information or material things AS evidence. And the prosecution or plaintif then gets their change to challenge what the defense presents AS evidence.

There is no such thing as ACTUAL evidence, but instead, accepted as evidence AFTER review of that which was presented AS evidence.

AFTER REVIEW!!!

Research, review, and if warrented REVISE.

You book burner NAZI types already try to trash revision. And next, by trying to shut down IHR and others, we see them trying to destroy the review and research as well. I thought I already put enough about this above that SOMEONE would catch on. But no. As I expected.

Imagine a court systom where ONLY the prosecution gets to present information or material things AS evidence, and the defense gets NO chance to challenge what gets presented AS evidence. Such a court systom would be a tyrannical police state. RIGHT? Is that really what you would have in the USA???

Don't feel as if you have to answer that. We already know the answer by your own words.

Without a real review, what PASSES as evidence will never be anything more than what PASSES as evidence. That sure as hell isn't my fault, now is it?

In their efforts to prevent revision through preventing review and research, these book burner NAZI types ensure that anything that might be considered ACTUAL ACCEPTED evidence will NEVER be anything other than what PASSES as evidence in a tyranical police state judicial systom.

Ok, you can start the name calling and trashing my spelling now. Since that is all we see from you book burner NAZI types.
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forgot already, PP?

by see for yourself Tuesday, Feb. 02, 2010 at 1:42 PM

http://www.hdot.org/en/trial/defense/van

Start reading. It's an excellent documentation of the evidence you, in your ignorance, say doesn't exist.

When you're done reading, and ready to pass a test, then I will consider you something other than an anti-Semitic loudmouth who hasn't got the foggiest idea what he's talking about.

Just let me know when you're ready.

Put that bi-i-i-i-ig bi-i-i-i-i-i-ig brain of yours to work. Let's see what you got. Last time I challenged you like this, you pissed your pants and ran away. I expect the same this time.
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As predicted

by As predicted Wednesday, Feb. 03, 2010 at 5:16 AM

PP pissed his pants and ran. Something about encountering actual fact does that to him.
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PP: spineless weasel

by isn't that how it goes Wednesday, Feb. 03, 2010 at 9:06 AM

Of course PrionPartyy ran way. That's what Holocaust deniers do -- they run their big mouths saying empty things, and as soon as actual facts enter into the conversation, they run for the hills. I'd sure hate to go through life being a guy like PrionPartyy; if the Holocaust deniers can fool you, _anybody_ can fool you.
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hmm

by give us a brief Wednesday, Feb. 03, 2010 at 12:55 PM

now what the hell are them there "Deniers" denying?
The murder of several million people or just numbers a *select* group of people are having a fit about?
Pathetic.
Beating your drum to drown out all the noise of the screams of your victims, while furiously waiving the flag of the injured.
Particularly 'ironic' is the Zionist Nazi collaboration that put these +select* group of people *into* the camps and even made a financial gain off of it.
51 Documents
Lenni Brenner
A world class Jewish historian delves into the Eichmann working group with early Zionist leaders.
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And once again

by right before your very eyes Thursday, Feb. 04, 2010 at 5:08 AM

And once again it's the basic fundamental antisemitism of the Indymedia "anti-Zionist" set, who feel it's perfectly okay to lie as long as you're lying about Jews.
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Still no PrionPartyy

by not that this is a surprise Thursday, Feb. 04, 2010 at 9:40 PM

Still no PP. Guess he knows when he's lost the argument.
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nope

by PrionPartyy Friday, Feb. 05, 2010 at 11:10 AM

Actualy, I posted on tuesday at 2:30 pm, shortly before I posted on another article.

for some reason, that wasn't explained, it was removed.

But I'll repeat what I recall.

I have made all the points I intended to make on this topic. And you have run away run away from them.

If you want to post actual facts, go right ahead. I sure don't expect you to do so. But feel free to post all the actual fatcs you wish.


ALSO
If you can show us where and when I ever ran way, then I will not post for a full 90 days.

That is 3 times as much as my standard offer. If you can show us where and when I was wrong about anything i have posted I will double it to 60 days

You make it so obvious that you would like to be able to trash my posts. the actual fact that you can't just showcases how absent of substance your posts are.
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"the actual fact that you can't "

by laughing man Friday, Feb. 05, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Megalomaniacal mental cripples are a hoot.

I for one think that Prion Partyy gets thrashed by whoever says a, an, and the.

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you poor fool

by look above Friday, Feb. 05, 2010 at 12:38 PM

PP, you'll see quite plainly I've posted a link to the study Robert Jan van Pelt made in the Holocaust denial trial of the Jew-hating David Irving.

Here it is again:

http://www.hdot.org/en/trial/defense/van

It spells out only a fraction of the historical evidence of the Holocaust. But it does more. It shows where the lies that Holocaust deniers spew come from, by showing how they originated among neo-Fascists and neo-Nazis who thought Hitler was a good guy who took a bad rap. When you parrot your 'but there's no evidence' shit you're really doing the jackboot crowd a terrific favor.

So take your time. Read it. Read it all and demonstrate to me that you've retained some of it. I'll be ready to discuss it when you've finished. Surely your bi-i-i-i-ig brain can handle it.

Until then, you're just another Jew-hating asswipe puking words about thinks he doesn't know, and saying "the Holocaust must be a lie because some guy on the internet refused to pre-chew my food for me."

Want my respect? Earn it.
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sez who? You? van Pelt?

by PrionPartyy Friday, Feb. 05, 2010 at 2:27 PM

Instead of presenting actual facts, you present a link to some websight.

Irving's trial determined ONLY that he dared to challenge the hollywood version of the holocaust story. The trial didn't even go into the validity of the holocaust allegations. He was not permitted to present ANY challenges to what has been alleged happened in the camps.

I know, some people are very supportive of tyrannical police state judicial practices that I wrote about above. You make it clear that you are one of those.

Is there some reason I should go to that websight when you still haven't presented one single actual fact???

Give us one single fact that doesn't fall apart under review.

Just one.
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poor PrionPartty

by look at him go Friday, Feb. 05, 2010 at 8:00 PM

You asked for facts, you've got 'em. All documented. You're just afraid to read 'em.

Okay, I'm done. You've done your usual excellent job keeping yourself ignorant. What's more, you're probably still going to try to claim that nobody ever gave you any evidence. And that will be bullshit again.
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just one

by PrionPartyy Saturday, Feb. 06, 2010 at 6:11 AM

Look at me not go. Not go to some websight suggested by someone who supports tyrannical police state practices. I have tried to go to suggested sights in the past and ended up with viruses. So I no longer go there. Ever.

But you still haven't provided even one single actual fact that you say I could find at the sight you mentioned. Even as you say you do provide facts.

As for van Pelt. In my own search, the architect seems very good at repeating the same things we have been told for decades. But not so good at presenting actual facts as evidence, much like you fail to do.
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by the way

by since you got it wrong again Saturday, Feb. 06, 2010 at 7:52 AM

By the way, PP, every time you shout about how Irving was not able to present his side of the case and "tyrannical state practices," you demonstrate that you don't know what happened at the Irving trial. Irving was given a full opportunity to reply to every charge in detail. Which he did. The judge also went out of his way to ensure that Irving had maximum opportunity to speak for his side; if you read the transcripts -- which you, PP, are probably too lazy to do -- then you'll see several places where the judge specifically says that he is, as a matter of principle, bending courtroom procedures toward Irving rather than away from him.

In fact, you may not even know that it was Irving who sued Lipstadt in the first place. Irving was the plaintiff, not the defendant. The whole trial took place because Irving wanted it. It was his baby. He asked for it. And he had the opportunity again and again through the trial to say what he wanted to say, including a long summary statement at the end.

But knowing that would take a little bit of research, and you don't know the first thing about research. You find it easier to lazily belch lazy generalities. Facts, actual facts, are too hard for you to deal with. As can be demonstrated by your inability to address all the evidence in the van Pelt report in any way other than vague handwaving.

Here, this should be amusing. Please point to one thing, one specific thing - with citation - that van Pelt says that you consider wrong. Just waving vague phrases at it, as you're doing now, won't do. Take up a specific piece, a specific claim, a specific issue, and wow us all by proving he's wrong.

That oughta be pretty funny to watch.
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poooooor PP

by wah wah wah goes PP Saturday, Feb. 06, 2010 at 7:55 AM

" I have tried to go to suggested sights in the past and ended up with viruses. So I no longer go there. Ever. "

Congratulations! You have found your excuse -- a very stupid one that fools nobody, but then nobody here has ever exactly considered you an Einstein -- to pretend that nobody has ever presented evidence the Holocaust happened.

Just to make sure you understand: every time you say "nobody ever presented the evidence that the Holocaust happened," everybody on this site now knows you really mean "Yes, there's plenty of evidence, just a click, but I was too sca-a-a-a-ared to click the link. Oh mommy I've wet myself again."
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wrong, but not "wrong again"

by PrionPartyy Sunday, Feb. 07, 2010 at 4:57 PM

Looks like I was wrong about Irving's trial.

You got your 60 days.

And if you can point out any other ways I was wrong. I will add another 60 days to that.

Be back in about 2 months.
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PP runs away

by really simple Monday, Feb. 08, 2010 at 7:15 AM

Doesn't take 60 days to show how you're running away. Takes thirty seconds.

You claim that nobody has presented the evidence that the Holocaust happened.

I pointed you to a detailed, book-length overview of the evidence, which has of course been presented all along.

Your strategy, because you cannot address the evidence even slightly, is to pretend -- quite stupidly -- that nobody has presented any evidence.

I, instead, have demonstrated that when that evidence is presented, you run away. You refused to read it. You refused to even click on the link, weeping some absolutely unconvincing wimp-out excuse about viruses.

PP runs away from the evidence, so that he can maintain his fantasy that the Holocaust didn't happen.

PP runs away: stated and proven. Thanks for asking.
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reminder

by once more Monday, Feb. 08, 2010 at 8:20 AM

Here again is the link you're running away from.

http://www.hdot.org/en/trial/defense/van

Now, that's not the only link, by far, full of the evidence you deny even exists. It's just a very good summary of it, as well as the history of the Holocaust denial movement -- which clearly sprang from the neo-Nazis -- who came up with the ideas you're spouting.

Run away from the facts, PP, run awaaaaaaay....
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CALL TO GET THE NAZIS EVICTED

by Anti Racist Action Friday, Feb. 19, 2010 at 7:11 PM

The call is in to contact Hunsaker Property Management and get the Nazi IHR evicted from the building they lease.

NO NAZI SCUM IN FOUNTAIN VALLEY !
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not sittin still

by PPyy Monday, Mar. 08, 2010 at 8:22 PM

About a month to go.

I have been reading the Irving transcripts. Got lots to point out.

Thanks for suggesting I check out an actual review.

Van Pelt's A game???
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oh no, actual facts

by not - thank god - PParty Wednesday, Mar. 17, 2010 at 11:51 AM

"Thanks for suggesting I check out an actual review. "

Thanks for admitting that you were squawking without knowing the first thing about what you were squawking about.
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Question One

by Schooling PParty Sunday, Mar. 28, 2010 at 6:39 AM

All right, PParty, now that you've had a chance to study actual history and not just raving antisemites, let's start with a simple one.

Degesch made a special version of their product Zyklon B for use at Auschwitz.

(1) Who's Degesch?

(2) What's Zyklon B?

(3) What was special about the Auschwitz version? (Hint: the cans had an additional label on them: "Vorsicht, ohne Warnstoff!" What did that mean specifically?)

(4) Why was the special version made?
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special?

by PrionPartyy Monday, Mar. 29, 2010 at 4:16 AM

1. Degesch is a chemical company.

2. Zyclon B is a poison know to have been used to delouse cloths and buildings and speculated by some to have been used to kill concentration camp prisoners held by NAZIs.

3. Vorsict means notice. Ohne means without . And Warmstoff means a warning agent., like natural gas has no smell so they add a chemical that people can detect by scent. Notice, without warning agent.

4. Why it was made? Well, I will let you speculate for us.

Nice to see your A game still doesn't have any actual evidence and is still limited to speculations.
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not a surprise

by already he's afraid Wednesday, Mar. 31, 2010 at 10:56 AM

Only after my first question, and you're already dodging and weaving.

You tell me, PParty. Why did Degesch make a special version of Zyklon B for use at Auschwitz?

Hint: "I don't like the question" is not an answer.
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afraid?

by PrionPartyy Wednesday, Mar. 31, 2010 at 12:21 PM

dodging and weaving?

Where?

I answered the first three questions. As for the forth, I don't know that a "special" version of zyklon B was designed for use at auschwitz. For all I know, degesch was also exporting the stuff to Sweden and Spain.

As to WHY it was made, I have no idea. And IF you can tell us OHNE speculations, I would be quite amazed.
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think it through

by use that so-called brain of yours Wednesday, Mar. 31, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Since you're struggling (or struggling to appear to struggle) let's take it back half a step. The warning odor manufactured into Zyklon -- everywhere except the special Auschwitz kind -- had what effect on lice, fleas, and other small insects?
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by the way

by by the way Thursday, Apr. 01, 2010 at 5:15 AM

"For all I know, degesch was also exporting the stuff to Sweden and Spain. "

By the way, it looks like all the whining you do about speculation doesn't apply to your own speculations, like the one I just quoted, does it.

We've only started and already you're pretty deep in the hole.
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OPP CALLS FOR ACTION AGAINST NAZI IHR

by AntiFa Thursday, Apr. 01, 2010 at 10:52 AM

One People's Project is calling on ALL AntiFa to contact enmass Hunsaker Property Management and get the Nazi IHR kicked out.

Weber who is a life member of the Nazi National Alliance is holding nazi meetings at the Lawson River Avenue location. The nazi scum of the American Third Position meet at this building as well.

Contact Hunsaker Property Management, tell these corporate pigs to stop giving shelter to nazi filth.

ENGAGE THE IHR NAZI SCUM !
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from what r u running away from?

by PrionPartyy Friday, Apr. 02, 2010 at 8:47 AM

Talk about dodging and weaving...

I have no idea what affect the warning agent had on lice etc. What, is that relivant to your speculations?

And me having no idea whether or not Degesch was also exporting the ohne warnstoff varient of the zyklon B to sweden or spain is not speculation. It is a fact. I have NO IDEA. Oh, people like you say the "special" stuff went ONLY to auschwitz. But is there some reason for anyone to believe anything people like you say??? People like you, pushing your holocaust allegations to rationalize the Zionist's murderous theft of Palestinian lands, have been ratted out as liars so many times before. Why take your word for anything? Especialy when your rant can't make it past the speculations stage.

Here is an example of speculation:
I assume your fail to grasp the meaning of the word speculation because English is a second language to you. Either that or you are just really stupid.

See, that would be an example of speculation.
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poor PrionPartyy, twisting twisting twisting

by schoolin' PP Friday, Apr. 02, 2010 at 2:04 PM

Hint: the reader can see me coming up with fact after fact and source after source, and can see you twisting and dancing. Shouting "What r u running away from" isn't going to help you when it's so plain you're the one doing the running.

"I have no idea what affect the warning agent had on lice etc."

It didn't make the Zyklon B less fatal to them; if anything, it made it more fatal.

To answer my question -- which I note you couldn't: Degesch manufactured and shipped a special version of Zyklon B to Auschwitz, one without the warning odor, because the SS wanted them to.

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/german/farben.ig/farben.001

"When manufactured as a pesticide Zyklon B contained a special odor, or 'indicator,' to warn human beings of its lethal presence. The inclusion of such a warning odor was required by German law. When the S.S. demanded that the new, large order of Zyklon B omit the 'indicator,' no one familiar with the workings of the S.S. could have failed to realize the purpose behind the strange request. The Degesch executives at first were unwilling to comply. But compassion was not behind their refusal. What troubled them was the fact that the S.S. request endangered Degesch's monopoly position. The patent on Zyklon B had long since expired. However, Degesch retained its monopoly by a patent on the warning odor. To remove the 'indicator' was bad business, opening up the possibility of unwelcome competition. The S.S. made short shrift of this objection and the company removed the warning odor. Now the doomed would not even know it was Degesch's Zyklon B."

The warning irritant served only one purpose: to warn humans when they were in the presence of HCN gas coming from Zyklon B. And the SS wanted that warning -- purely a safety mechanism -- removed, over Degesch's own objections.

PrionPartyy: "rant rant rant babble babble babble"

So tell me, genius -- why didn't the SS want people to know they were in a room in Auschwitz where Zyklon B was being used? By the way, no, this special version of Zyklon B wasn't being shipped anywhere except to death camps. Not Sweden or Spain.
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You tell us, genius

by PrionPartyy Friday, Apr. 02, 2010 at 4:57 PM

And if you can do so without speculation, I will still be amazed.

What, do you expect me to do your speculating for you so you don't have to admit that speculation is your A game? Which is what you have been running away from your last several posts.
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oh, you poor drone

by you almost gotta pity PrionPartyy Saturday, Apr. 03, 2010 at 4:04 AM

Ah, you poor little Holocaust denying fool. Nothing I've said so far is speculation. It's all documented.

Just like it's been documented that the showerheads in the Auschwitz gas chambers were not hooked to plumbing but straight to blocks of wood.

Tell us, genius, why put fake showerheads in the ceiling of a building?
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you run by changing the subject?

by PrionPartyy Saturday, Apr. 03, 2010 at 9:04 AM

Again you would have me do your speculations for you.

Well, those "shower heads" were in the alleged gas chamber that the Soviets forced the Poles to build after the NAZIs were driven out of Poland. The truth is, I have no idea why the Soviets forced the Poles to place false shower heads in the false gas chambers built after the war.

And you still run away from your question of why the "special" ohne warnstoff zuklon B was made.

Care to tell us why you still run away from the stuff you posted?
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try to keep up

by schoolin' PP Saturday, Apr. 03, 2010 at 9:42 AM

Haven't changed the subject. Still building my argument, bit by bit. Here's what we've got so far:

(1) a specially formulated version of Zyklon B made and shipped exclusively to death camps, designed to be undetectable, by request of the SS. Documented.

(2) fake shower heads -- which, despite your flailing lies, were not in "reconstructed gas chambers made by the Soviets" (which is along the lines of the usual denier lie, you're again showing a combination of stupidity and ignorance) but in the main gas chambers of Auschwitz. Documented.

And shame on you for trying the "Soviets reconstructed gas chambers" lie. The funny thing is, it shows you're not even *understanding* your side of the argument. Please push back on this so I can crush your "Soviet reconstructed gas chambers" lie with full documentation showing what a lie it is. Face it: I know your arguments better than you do, and I know why they're wrong.

Let's add some more. The "showers" at Auschwitz had gas-tight doors. Why, genius, does a shower facility need gas-tight doors?
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haw haw

by Yada posts to Itself Saturday, Apr. 03, 2010 at 12:27 PM

who cares about the particulars?
People were rounded up and forced to work like animals.
Until they died.
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another genius heard from

by LA indymedia is full of geniuses Saturday, Apr. 03, 2010 at 1:23 PM

"People were rounded up and forced to work like animals. Until they died."

Another genius heard from. Ever hear of "selection", genius? Know what it was?
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No, you are changing the subject

by PrionPartyy Saturday, Apr. 03, 2010 at 1:59 PM

1. Well, I am not saying the "special" Zyklon B was never sent to any of the labor camps. YOU refuse to tell us WHY it was made. A question YOU asked of ME, before YOU started to run away run away from what I speculate is a speculation on YOUR part.

2. Shower heads and pipes are visible enough to anyone who goes to Auschwitz and sees the Soviet constructed (not reconstructed as you so vacantly suggest ) alleged gas chamber.

There are no verified "main gas chambers" in Auschwitz. Only alleged gas chambers. And there never were any false shower heads found in any blocks of wood.

Shower facilities don't need gas tight doors. But then, there is no evidence that the buildings were shower facilities. Very sturdy undergound buildings at auschwitz were fitted with the air tight doors to serve as bomb shelters. They were the standard doors designed for all NAZI era bomb shelters. Same demensions, thickness, etc.

And NAZIs didn't work the prisoners to death. There is no evidence of that.

I also used to think the camps were death camps, then I thought they were slave labor camps. Then I thought they were forced labor camps. But all of those allegations have fallen as the internet made the facts open to people.

All prisoners of a camp were fed the same portions wether they worked or not. Some camps had more to give per prisoner. And the figures of calories per day were documented not just by the NAZIs but by the Red Cross.

In adition to that. Those who worked were paid in military script which they could spend at stores inside the camps. They could spend their wages on extra food, clothing, etc. Yes, Auschwitz prisoners got paid for the work they did. And after the camps were liberated, the allies continued the oporations of the camps stores, letting the prisoners spend NAZI script on products the allies shipped in.

Acording the internation red cross, it was the alied bombing of railroads and bridges that prevented the NAZIs from getting supplies to the camps. And the more the NAZI government was destroyed, the more the NAZIs were un able to get supplies to the camps.

Death camps? No evidence of that.
Slave labor camps? Not of those working were being paid.
Forced labor camps? Not if many chose not to work.

And why was the parent article HIDDEN????

It has been up for better than 2 months.

How can some book burner type rationalize removing it NOW???????
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Ever hear of "selection"

by by which or whom? Saturday, Apr. 03, 2010 at 2:14 PM

sure I have, Yada.
what context are you referring to?
I'm interested in psychopathic reason.
In order to be able to treat it... and protect my kin and friends from it.
Never had any love, huh? Bet that hurts under all the denial and cynicism.
you deserve to suffer.
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And why was the parent article HIDDEN????

by 'cause ... Saturday, Apr. 03, 2010 at 2:22 PM

tired of using the IMC as a billboard for zionist propaganda under the guise of ' debate'.
Zionism is indefensible.
Mass incarceration by political bias is indefensible.

-picking pepper out of gnat shit is boring-

These labor camps were a result of a business deal between the Zionists and their Nazi stooges.
51 Documents
Lenni Brenner
the zionist Nazi collaboration to seize Palestine by a world class Jewish historian.
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PP continues sinking

by watching PP sink Saturday, Apr. 03, 2010 at 3:18 PM

The genius PrionPartyy, knowing how badly behind he is after only a few
days, tries shouting "there's no evidence" a lot to make up for it. Doesn't work though. Why? Because he's wrong.

Here's something else that doesn't work: "There are no verified "main
gas chambers" in Auschwitz. Only alleged gas chambers. And there never
were any false shower heads found in any blocks of wood."

That's why they call 'em deniers, folks. That's what they do. They just
deny things. Wah wah wah wah they go, because that's all they can do.
PP's argument is "I don't believe it because I don't believe it."

Were there gas chambers? Yep. Just ask the witnesses.

Were there false showerheads? Ask one of the witnesses, the
sonderkommando Henryk Tauber:

"I would point out that at first the undressing room had neither benches
nor clothes hooks and there were no showers in the gas chamber. These
fittings were not installed until autumn 1963 in order to camouflage the
undressing room and gas chamber as a bathing and disinfestation
facility. The showers were fitted to small blocks of wood sealed into
the concrete roof of the gas chamber. There were no pipes connected to
these showers, from which no water ever flowed."

http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/pressac/technique-and-operation/pressac0484.shtml

The architectural plans of at least one of gas chambers survived,
incidentally. They show all the plumbing. They don't show any plumbing
to the shower heads. Why? Because there wasn't any plumbing to the
shower heads. They were fake. As you say, "there is no evidence that the
buildings were shower facilities." That's because they weren't shower
facilities, genius, they were gas chambers dressed up to look like
shower facilities.

Your bomb-shelter theory was shown in the Irving trial to be just
another tired Holocaust denier lie. Here's what the Judge had to say:

"13.86 If the redesign was to convert the buildings to air raid
shelters, there would have been no reason why the drawings and
associated documents should not say so. But there is no hint in the
documents that such was the intention. The question arises for whose
benefit such shelters would have been built. It appears to me to be
unlikely that the Nazis would be concerned to shelter the camp inmates.
In any case the shelters would have been too small to accommodate more
than a fraction of them. But the shelters would not have been suitable
for SS personnel either, since the SS barracks were about one and a half
miles way. So I cannot accept that this argument comes anywhere near
displacing the conclusion to be drawn from the convergent evidence
relied on by the Defendants for their contention as to the object of the
redesign work."

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/i/irving-david/judgment-13-01.html

Fail fail fail goes the PrionPartyy. Fail fail fail.

Is he dumb enough to keep trying?

Probably.
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and I should mention

by by the way Saturday, Apr. 03, 2010 at 3:25 PM

The relic who thinks I'm "yada" and keeps bringing up Lenni Brenner is obviously just too stupid to reply to again, so I'm not going to.
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" And why was the parent article HIDDEN????"

by answer man Saturday, Apr. 03, 2010 at 4:29 PM

Because johnk wants you to think that he's special, when in the Grand Scheme of things he knows to his core that he's as forgettable as your most recent bowel movement.
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more

by PrionPartyy Saturday, Apr. 03, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Henryk Tauber was one of the witnesses who has long ago been discreadited.

As YOU point out, HE says there were false shower heads. So where are the actual articles???

Fact is, the alleged false shower heads have never been in existance. ONLY his sayng they once existed. So..., looks like I was right on that account as YOU are the one to point out the alleged existance of the alleged shower heads comes ONLY from the words of an alleged witness of the alleged shower heads.

So Tauber, a man who should have been hanged for known war crimes totaly un related to his actions spent at any camps walks free and clear. Why? I will speculate here because it is outragious that a known war criminal would walk free and clear. He lied for his own self preservation.

Odd thing that. NAZIs in Brittish prisons after the war who testified to gas chambers and such walked while those prisoners in Brittish prisons after the war who didn't tesitify to gas chambers got thier testicles smashed. Um, yes, that is a fact.

Yes, the buildings that were transformed into air raid shelters were not originaly intended to be air raid shelters. So it would be obtuse for anyone to assume that the original plans would describe a building designed as an air raid shelter. DUH!

And it would be equaly obtuse for the plans to show a shower facility with pipes going to false shower heads which YOU admitted ONLY exist in the words of a discreadited witness, because that was never the use of the building. DUH!

Judge grey says...
Well golly, the SS berracks were 1 1/2 miles away. Like the SS and the prisoners were just neighbors. No, the SS personel were working in the camps. they slept in their berracks. But worked IN the camps. Add to that the German radar would give the SS at most 20 minutes to half an hour warning befor bombers would be near Auschwitz, the air raid shelters WOULD be suitable for the needs of SS personel working IN the camps.

Some people might present Judge Grey's job as a judge as adding to his credibility. But the opinion YOU pointed out just showcases that he is a tool.

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the Indymedia DOES know your internet address

by not COINTELPRO Saturday, Apr. 03, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Think twice when you post on a forum controlled by stool pigeons like nessie and johnk.

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2007/11/210518_comment.php#218236

Working on the captcha
by johnk Tuesday, Jun. 10, 2008 at 10:37 PM

You needed cookies enabled and stuff.

I'm not sure what happens, but, I'm working on it.

(The previous one saved the question based on the IP address.)
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don't fret, Yada

by hey... Saturday, Apr. 03, 2010 at 11:51 PM

maybe the mole in LA IMC will un-hide this piece of crap [ again ] so you can go on and on with yourself about details in a pogrom of selective ethnic cleansing. Your or theirs.
Nazi or Zionazi.
Makes little difference, if one group believes itself above the other.
ps
you'll always be Yada, for that rat zionist state... "Is Real"
haw haw
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"maybe the mole in LA IMC"

by pointer Sunday, Apr. 04, 2010 at 1:19 AM

That's been documented so many times as being you,

shit

for

brains.

How many times must it be repeated that a terrorist fellator who slurps for the Palestinians yet turns on them, and doesn't know of the importance of the Guardian to boot, either is a mental patient who has squatted here or is a COINTELPRO infiltrator?

What purpose do you serve here, asswipe? You contribute nothing, not one thing, to any subject. You're a laughingstock.

Or a paid infiltrator.

-------------------------

COINTELPRO, or a mental patient?

http://la.indymedia.org/news/hidden.php?id=234994

It's a COINTELPRO infiltrator.
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I wish!

by that would be nice Sunday, Apr. 04, 2010 at 3:52 AM

I sure wish some one would pay me!
This is worse than being too cheap!
haw haw
I'll have to accept markers instead.
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more denier bullshit from PrionPartyy

by still schoolin' PP Sunday, Apr. 04, 2010 at 5:00 AM

PrionPartyy, because he doesn't know what else to say: "Henryk Tauber was one of the witnesses who has long ago been discreadited. "

The hell he has. He's one of those people that Holocaust deniers like you have to pretend is discredited because otherwise you'd have to admit the fact that you're wrong. So you make up excuses to pretend he doesn't exist.

But once again, you've shown what it means to be a Holocaust denier: just waving away whatever facts you don't want for no other reason than that you don't want them. That's why you've got to run away from the fact that the plumbing diagrams don't show any water lines being run to the "shower heads."

Tauber, incidentally, is far from the only eyewitness who refered to the fake showers.

And the idea that the Nazis were tortured into confession -- once again, an old Holocaust denier lie. It's easier to just bleat a blanket "oh they were all tortured, so we can ignore anything they said" -- without, incidentally, proving the torture allegation -- than it is to actually deal with the actual evidence.

And for someone who was so very very concerned about "speculation" you haven't given one shred of evidence to support your speculation that the Kremas of Auschwitz were "converted to bomb shelters." It's just another lazy Holocaust denier lie you've grabbed onto because you can't handle the truth. All you can do is offer up the same old Holocaust denier crap that bit the dust in the Irving trial.

So let's see what we've got. Fake showers with gas-tight doors, doctored Zyklon, eyewitnesses to the gassing -- both Nazi eyewitnesses and survivor eyewitnesses. And PrionParty sputtering "but but but but..."

What did the commandant of Auschwitz have to say when questioned after the war?
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"This is worse than being too cheap!"

by COINTELPRO spotter Sunday, Apr. 04, 2010 at 6:11 AM

If it's a mentally crippled squatter, then that statement is itself insane.

I believe that it's an infiltrator. Nobody could really be that stupid for so many years. It would've killed itself by now.
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why they hate review

by PrionPartyy Sunday, Apr. 04, 2010 at 6:16 AM

Tauber didn't exist??? Where did you come up with that load?

Tauber is a real person. Wether true or not, Tauber's testimony was a real tastimony. Tauber's war crimes were real war crimes. Tauber, the known war criminal, walking scott free was a REAL outrage.

I don't run away from the fact that diagrams don't show pipes leading to the ALLEGED shower heads. YOU run away from the FACT that YOU admitted that the ONLY place the alleged false shower heads exist is within the testimony of known war criminals who walked scott free and a handfull of the prisoners who joined the Zionists in the murderous theft of Palestinian lands. Oh yes, murderous thieves would never make up stories to rationalize thier murderous theft of Palestinian lands. Murderous thieves are notoriously honest people. Right? Maybe I should point out that last bit was sarcasm.

That NAZIs were tortured by the Britts in the Brittish prisoner of Peace camps after the war, under the direction of the Scottish sargent, I'll go back and get his name latter. Many had thier testicles smashed.

Wether or not Tauber himself had his nuts crunched, I do not know. But it is a fact that many people he was bunking with did have thier nuts crunched. How many of the average person's cell mates would have thier balls smashed before the average prisoner would start thinking about signing any confession placed before them?

There is much evidence that I have not presented. Including the evidence that the buildings you call Krema were actualy converted to bomb shelters. Maybe I will.

Let's see what we got.
Allegations of fake showers, which YOU admitted ONLY exist in the testimony of war criminals who walked scott free and Zionists seeking to rationalize thier murderous theft of Palestinian lands.
"Special" Zyklon which YOU refuse to speculate what it was used for, becuase that would prove that speculation is the best you got, you're A game
suspect eye witnesses (rehash from above),
and PrionPartyy sputtering something other than "but but but..."

What did the commandant of Auschwitz have to say when questioned after the war?

Well, the translation would be something like- "PLEASE DON"T SMASH MY BALLS!!!!!!" I'LL SIGN ANY CONFESSION!!!!

Actualy, his confession changed as propagandists questioned him and others. Records of the questionings of many prioners shows that the holocaust allegations evolved as the Britts assembled a cohesive story that they could sell as fact. Looking at the records of the questioning, which includes records of torture, shows that the gas chamber allegations were built slowly over time, fabricated brick by fabricated brick.
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PP continues to fail

by watchin' PP fail Sunday, Apr. 04, 2010 at 6:32 AM

PrionPartyy, showing off his utter stupidity: "Tauber didn't exist??? Where did you come up with that load?"

It's times like this I wonder why I'm bothering to argue with such an obvious moron. Really. You're in way over your head, and it shows in every sentence you write.

Just make up whatever shit you want, PrionPartyy -- like the outright lie that I'd said there was no Tauber.

Really, man, are you that dumb? Anybody can check what I wrote and discover that you're just plain lying about it. Right out in the open, adding yet one more lie to your stack of lies.

PrionPartyy: "spew spew rant rant spew spew"

More failure from PP.

PrionPartyy: "Whether or not Tauber himself had his nuts crunched, I do not know."

This is great! You think Tauber was a Nazi! You haven't got the SLIGHTEST idea what you're talking about, do you, ya moron?

PrionPartyy: "Let's see what we got. Allegations of fake showers, which YOU admitted ONLY exist in the testimony of war criminals who walked scott free and Zionists seeking to rationalize thier murderous theft of Palestinian lands."

You're babbling like a fool, PP.

See, this is why I had no qualms whatsoever in debating you. I knew you were in waaaaay over your head, and that within days you'd be reduced to this kind of babbling fact-free crap. And, lo, you are. You started out on the wrong foot and you've only spiralled down from there.

Just like you have to make up stuff about the Commandant of Auschwitz being tortured into signing a confession, which is bullshit.
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hey there, boyz... [ tee heee ][

by wanta have some fun? Sunday, Apr. 04, 2010 at 9:35 AM

look up ( cut and paste into yer favorite search engine )
I.G. Farbin +Work Camps +nazi germany
Tee hee hee
who owned and controlled I. G. Farbin?
Tee Hee Hee...
[ wink wink ]
These parasites must be purged and contained. Maybe Malta...
They'd have their but wiping servants for hire and they would no longer inflict their feeding habits upon humanity.
We could patrol the perimeters to keep them 'safe'.
tee hee hee
time to pull their but plug out
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"time to pull their but plug out"

by COINTELPRO spotter Sunday, Apr. 04, 2010 at 1:34 PM
nessie@pattonstate.com

As has been noticed before, spell checking is above the asswipe's pay grade.

Who can seriously believe that a government plant in the Fairy State doesn't know how to spell butt plug?

Must be some dumb-ass minority, an utterly useless Affirmative Action hire. 

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okay. I'll kick it in again

by feels a draft? Sunday, Apr. 04, 2010 at 5:55 PM

just trying to help.
I didn't know you liked it that way...
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why yes, it is somewhat drafty

by Wendy Sunday, Apr. 04, 2010 at 9:06 PM

why yes, it is somew...
borg_butts.jpg, image/jpeg, 640x440

Does facing the Borg cube make my butt look big?
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no fun at al

by I guess not Sunday, Apr. 04, 2010 at 10:31 PM

funny how any real research finds the zionist at the center of the web.
Like why Auschwitz was built and for who's profit. While they bicker about trivia to hide the monstrosity of their own actions.
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once more into the sludge

by PrionPartyy Monday, Apr. 05, 2010 at 5:24 AM

last line of second paragraph
"So you make up excuses to pretend he doesn't exist."

Tauber doesn't exist? Where did you come up with that load.

Yes, it turns out I got a murderous thieving Zionist witness mixed up with NAZI witnesses trying to save thier balls from being crushed. I have reviewed Tauber and have remedied that.

But you will still not admit that the alleged false shower heads never existed outside of testimony of witnesses.

Some testimony of Tauber, the murderous thieving ZIonist trying to rationalize being a murderous thieving Zionist.

Zyklon B was introduced into ports in the roof which have yet to be found. He said that the Zyklon B was introduced through chimney holes in the roof which, in spite of scouring the roof of crematoria 2 for 65 years, have yet to be discovered. Clearly, since the holes in the roof never existed, he was lying.

Tauber also said the chimney holes fed into a wire mesh collums in the building, A wire mesh collum 3 meters high, in a room that was 2.4 meters high. Simply stated, that was another lie.How does a 3 meter collum fit into a 2.4 meter high room? How could the wire mesh collum even get into the building when the entrance was a narrow staircase with a sharp turn at the bottom?

Tauber says the wire mesh collums ran down the middle of the room. Other witnesses say the wire mesh collums were placed in the 4 corners of the room. Clearly some of the "witnesses" are lying. Maybe all are lying and the wire mesh collums never existed. With no way to even get the wire mesh collums into the building, it is a pretty safe bet that they are all lying.

Is Tauber saying that the "witnesses" who say the wire mesh collums were in the 4 corners of the room, that they were LIARS??? Yes. Are the witnesses who say the wire mesh collums were in the 4 corners saying that Tauber is a LIAR????? Yes.

Maybe the months taken to fabricate the gas chamber story wasn't enough time. Maybe they should have taken more notes while fabricating the gas chamber story so that the witnesses would not be contradicting each other. Here it is, 65 years later and the witnesses are still tweeking thier story so that they are not calling other witnesses LIARS.

You say I lie. The witnesses themselves say that other witnesses lie.

You can say tauber is credible all you like. That doesn't make his accounts truthfull. Not that one could expect truth from a murderous thief trying to rationalize his murderous theft of Palestinian lands.

Maybe I am in over my head. There are so many people in the story with with odd names, and foriegn languages. Sonderkommando, Like I am going to translate all this stuff. I am too lazy for that. Which just goes to show how important groups like the IHR are. They study the facts, know the names of the players, are used to German words cluttering up debates.

When did I ever say Hoss was tortured? I have seen no evidence of that. Maybe there is evidence he was tortured. But it would be unknown to me at this time.

That he was in the company of other NAZIs who were tortured is clear enough. That he was in custody of people who were torturing NAZIs for false confessions is clear enough. But wether or not he himself was tortured, I do not know.
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deeper and deeper sinks PP

by schoolin' PP Monday, Apr. 05, 2010 at 6:48 AM

"Yes, it turns out I got a murderous thieving Zionist witness mixed up with NAZI witnesses trying to save thier balls from being crushed."

Remember, folks, this is the guy who was whining about "speculation." But look how full of speculation his own posts are.

And look how his case against Tauber is nothing by empty name-calling -- "the murderous thieving ZIonist trying to rationalize being a murderous thieving Zionist", that sort of shit. But PrionPartyy has to say that. That's all he's got.

Well, he's got other lies too. Like the "No Holes, No Holocaust" bit that Ernst Zundel, author of "The Hitler We Loved and Why," used to sell neo-Nazi bumperstickers about. Here's PrionPartyy's version of that lie: "Zyklon B was introduced into ports in the roof which have yet to be found."

Try to keep up with the facts, there, PrionPartyy. A photograph of one of those ports was submitted to the court as part of the (failed) Irving appeal ten years ago. Not only are you spewing Holocaust denier lies, you're spewing *old* Holocaust denier lies.

See, this is exactly what I knew you were going to do -- try to ply all the same old discredited shit the neo-Nazis of the Holocaust denial movement have been saying for decades. I knew that you weren't going to come up with anything new, and you haven't. Why? Because I knew you were stupid, and you are.

PrionPartyy, admitting that he's just not up to it: "Like I am going to translate all this stuff. I am too lazy for that."

Damn straight. Cutting and pasting from neo-Nazi websites is definitely more your speed. The moment you have to demonstrate any actual, you know, KNOWLEDGE in any depth, you break down into dumbass rants, because you don't know the facts. As I've said all along, I know your arguments better than you do, and nothing you've said here has done you the slightest bit of credit intellectually.

And it's a riot that you think groups like the IHR are valuable. The moment the IHR went to court over their failure to pay $50000 to someone who proved the Holocaust happened, they showed the world that they were valuable only in the sense of being able to suck money out of suckers like you begging to be lied to.

I am still waiting for your first original thought on this. Haven't seen it yet.
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absolutely

by absolutely Monday, Apr. 05, 2010 at 6:55 AM

PrionPartyy, in over his head: "Maybe I am in over my head."

You've demonstrated you haven't got the foggiest idea what you're talking about, and that you don't know the facts of the Holocaust, but you do know the URLs of a few Holocaust denier sites and you're sure there were no gas chambers.

They're taking you for an idiot, and you're obliging them.
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Gee; mon

by schooling Is really spooks Monday, Apr. 05, 2010 at 7:15 AM

ya know when you hit a sensitive target by the noise it produces.
Who owned I. G. Farbin?
haw haw
this will be fun for me...
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you said it

by just look at 'im Monday, Apr. 05, 2010 at 8:15 AM

"ya know when you hit a sensitive target by the noise it produces. "

Yeah, look at PrionPartyy howl.
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I'll double check that picture bit

by PrionPartyy Monday, Apr. 05, 2010 at 10:38 AM

And the claims that the collums were 3 meters and couldn't fit in a room 2.4 meters high??? Is it odd that you left that part out???

And you left out how other survivors said the wire mesh collums were in the 4 corners. Seems like some testimony gets cast aside when it does fit the gas chamber narative.

As for the picture of a hole you say was used to introduce the zyklon B, I am not aware of it. I am aware of the pictures of the hole made in the roof that shows the rebar that would have prevented any port from being there. Is that the picture you are mentioning? Some people pushing the gas chamber story have been saying it is the hole used to introduce the zyklon B, when in fact the newly found (created with a pick) hole just shows that it couldn't have been used as a port.

As for the $50,000, you say they proved the holocaust. But did they really? OR, did they just convince a juddge and or jury that it happened??? There is a differance.

Think ( and I know how much that hurts your little brain ) about the recent finding that the climategate inquiery came up with. Shouldn't be too hard to find it. That a "trick" used to lower temporatures recorded wasn't really a trick and that they didn't really to get rid of temporature recordings that went against the global warming narative, which is what they did do.

A prejudiced judge and or jury is very capable and willing to support popular dogma. I would have to see the actual transcripts to have any idea of wether or not they "proved" the holocaust happened.

Any first year law student knows that a conviction for a crime is not evidence of guilt. It is just evidence of a conviction.

And you still have not admitted that the alleged false shower heads existed outside of testimony.

testimony is not evidence. It is testimony

here is a bit.
In the Malmedy trial at Nuremburg , an American prosecutor named Kirschbaum called up to the stand a fellow named Einstien to prove that a NAZI named Metzel had murdered Einstein's brother. One small problem, his brother was in the court. And it gets better. Kirschbaum cused out Einstein saying "How can we bring this pig to the gallows if you are so stupid as to bring your brother into court."

clearly Einstein was no Einstein.

It shows not only that survivors were willing to lie, but that the prosecutors were willing to accept lies in order to kill NAZIs.

"How can WE (shows colusion) bring this pig (shows a predetermined judgement of guilt and not just to that case ) to the gallows (to kill, in this case, to murder) if you are so stupid as to bring your brother into court."

WHat if Einstein had any brains at all and told his brother to stay away from the court? Then his testimony would have been accepted as fact, without question, by the prejudiced prosecutors and judges.
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zionists created the camps

by I.G. Farbin + zionists Monday, Apr. 05, 2010 at 11:45 AM

yeah it was the zionists who created Auschwitz to service the bottom line.
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you gotta be kidding

by PrionPartyy Monday, Apr. 05, 2010 at 11:46 AM

Is that a joke???

Mel mermelstein won his case against the IHR???????

Oh man, that is almost too pathetic.

In the first case for $17 million, long before anyone went to trial, the Judge Johnson stated in a judicial notice that Jews were "in fact" sent to die in gas chambers. Without hearing a word of anyone's evidence, the judge declaired himself totaly prejudiced. And the IHR chose to settle out of court to avoid expenses and a prejudicialy decided settlement.

BUT, in the second trial for an $11 million suit, mermelstein got his ass royaly and undenyably stomped.

You gotta read about Mermelstein's lawsuit against IHR.
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how typical of PrionPartyy

by what a dope Monday, Apr. 05, 2010 at 12:28 PM

PrionPartyy, talking out his ass: "Some people pushing the gas chamber story have been saying it is the hole used to introduce the zyklon B, when in fact the newly found (created with a pick) hole just shows that it couldn't have been used as a port. "

Once again Prion "don't speculate!" Partyy speculates and speculates and speculates.

The hole isn't new. Irving wanted to make a big point about it in his appeal. So the other side went and photographed the hole that had been there all along.

Reality: 1. David Irving: 0. PrionPartyy: so far in the hole they don't make numbers that negative.

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For those keeping score

by scorekeeper Monday, Apr. 05, 2010 at 12:53 PM

Here's what you've been seeing.

You've been seeing "Schoolin' PP" come up with fact after fact.

You've been seeing PrionPartyy reply only "Whuh? I don't believe it, so it's not true" again and again as if that proved anything beside his own ignorance.
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the answer is

by Warberg! Monday, Apr. 05, 2010 at 2:07 PM

they owned I. G. Farbin!
zionist weasels who sent their Jewish 'brethren' into the camps..
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And also

by for those keeping score Monday, Apr. 05, 2010 at 3:40 PM

And you're also seeing strange interjections by an illiterate idiot who couldn't find his asshole with both hands, an anatomy textbook, six weeks, a multimillion dollar research grant from the National Institute of Health, and laser-guided targeting technology.
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haw

by strange interjections... Monday, Apr. 05, 2010 at 3:46 PM

into your script between yourself?
yar it's true
zionists created the death camps
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Whuh, cuz u sez so???

by PrionPartyy Monday, Apr. 05, 2010 at 5:28 PM

Whuh?

See? That is what it looks like when I respond with "whuh?".

Kind of differant that what my responces are really like.

As for Schooling PP presenting fact after fact. Show us one. Just one fact that Schooling PP has presented. Dink sure has presented a lot of words. So, it should not be too difficult for you to show us just one little "fact", unless he hasn't really presented ANY facts at all.

Come on, just one little fact.

Can you do it???????

Here is your chance to add substance to your vacant rant.

Can you do it???????

Or are you ful of dung too???
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PP's losing it

by no surprise there Monday, Apr. 05, 2010 at 5:42 PM

I knew you wouldn't be able to hold it together, PP. You've been reduced to spewing and drooling, "what facts? what facts?" even as the facts flow all around you.
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cuz you say so???

by PrionPartyy Monday, Apr. 05, 2010 at 6:18 PM

So many facts that you can't show us even one little fact? In all that stuff he wrote? Just one?

The name calling adds nothing of substance to your rant. It only showcases that you would trash my responces IF you could.

Can you do it? Can you show us just one little fact???

Just one?

Pretty please.

With sugar on top.

Shall I beg?

PLEASE! PLEASE show us one fact that the dink has posted. Let us bask in it's singular greatness. Please. We beg of you. Just point out one SINGLE fact.

Or, are you just happy to tell people what they are to believe without backing up your rant, as I was writing about the book burner types at the beginnng of this thred.
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you can't be serious

by wake up Monday, Apr. 05, 2010 at 6:57 PM

You're getting dribbled up and down the court like a basketball, and you're responding with nothing but empty bravado that gets sillier and emptier with your every post.
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sure thing

by since you asked Monday, Apr. 05, 2010 at 7:14 PM

"Can you do it? Can you show us just one little fact??? "

That Henryk Tauber was a sonderkommando. You didn't know what that was, and thought that meant Tauber was Nazi. When you were told that, duhhhh, no it didn't, you said you were too lazy to look up what it meant.

What an idiot you are, PrionPartyy. It's like you're proud of it.

And you know what? You're too dumb to quit. You're gonna keep proving what an idiot you are, over and over.
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PP admits it

by not a crackpot Tuesday, Apr. 06, 2010 at 2:21 AM

"Like I am going to translate all this stuff. I am too lazy for that."

Too lazy to know what you're talking about, but still absolutely sure you're right.

The sure signature of a crackpot.
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schoolin' PP

by because he's too dumb to quit Tuesday, Apr. 06, 2010 at 4:21 AM

Funny thing about those supposedly non-existent wire mesh columns. When the Nazis did a parts inventory of Krema II in 1943, they noted the "Drahtnetzeinschiebvorrichtung." Since you've admitted you're too lazy to look things up that the neo-Nazis don't spoon-feed you, PrionPartyy, it means "wire mesh insertion device."

Not only did they exist, but we even know the name of the guy who built them. His name was Kula.

Now don't you look just downright stupid, PP, howling about things that plainly existed as if they didn't exist?

In general, you're doing quite terribly, by the way. You don't know the facts and even if you did, you can't argue for shit.
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Zionist Holocaust Deniers

by they sure do deny creating it! Tuesday, Apr. 06, 2010 at 6:48 AM

the economic factors and the ownership of these partnerships such as Warberg of I. G. Farbin* and all the other awful families of degenerates which feed off of our blood; are the holocaust deniers. They deny their sponsorship. Then spend enormous energy, blaming their victims.

*The reason Auschwitz was built, in order to service this enterprise between state and private ownership...
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hey genius

by LA Indymedia: casa del morons Tuesday, Apr. 06, 2010 at 7:20 AM

If you're such a historical geeeeeenius, how come you haven't quite managed to spell "I.G. Farben" right even once?
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don't need to be

by pointing out hypocrisy Tuesday, Apr. 06, 2010 at 9:19 AM

don't need to be real smart to point out raging hypocrisy, ya psychopathic twit.
Sorry to interrupt your argument with yourselves...
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but you have to be real stupid

by not a moron Tuesday, Apr. 06, 2010 at 10:50 AM

But you have to be really incredibly stupid to claim that the Zionists created Auschwitz.
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why is that?

by Warberg was a zionist Tuesday, Apr. 06, 2010 at 2:06 PM

and his little enterprise needed a work camp... that's why, we had Auschwitz.
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a little garnish on the side

by PrionPartyy Tuesday, Apr. 06, 2010 at 5:29 PM

That is your one little fact? That I didn't go runing off to check out some German word?

wow.

And was he a sonderkommando?
If he were, then he would have known there were not the 4 holes in the roof. He wouldn't have exposed himself as a liar by saying there were. Maybe he was a sonderkommando, and just lied about the holes, and everything else he had to say about the alleged gas chambers. Maybe he wasn't a sonderkommando and lied about the holes. Either way, he lied about the holes and the gas chamber allegation fell to pieces.

Now, about the drahtnetzeinschiebvorrichtung.

While you posted an acceptable translation of the word, your translation of the items function was compleatly wrong.

Wire mesh insertion device

Right next to the 4 drahtnetzeinschibvorrichtung in the inventory was 4 holzblenden (4 wooden shutters). Right next to, both 4, and same handrwriting.

In german air rade shelters, openings, like windows , were required to have both air tight closing AND some type a mesh, netting, graiting or grillwork, to stop or slow flying shrapnel that breached the shutter.

Like a ship has bulkheads that seal off one part of a ship from other parts. If one room gets flooded, not as big a deal as if that one breached room floods the whole ship and sinks it.

Such openings were also required to be available for emergency exit, so its fittings would need to be removable. A shift in the building foundation could squeez hinged mesh screens shut, and were not acceptable.

Auschwitz work order No. 78, dated march 11 1943, called for the screens with edges to be sent to Crematory 2. It was writen in Polish, which was from whom the camp aquired the wire mesh.

Nothing at all about wire mesh collums for inserting the Zyklon in through the roof, which never had the port holes anyway.

Which is where your (hdot) translation of the function of the wire mesh insertion device falls apart. German inti-gas shelter liturature is consistant.

shcieber- a device which slides into something to block, filter or mediate a space.

In all cases, schieber is something slid into something else, and never refers to a devies into which something else is slid.

This is the problem you run into when you get your info from hdot and other outfits that push the holocaust allegations. You end up looking like a manipulated fool, or like someone who manipulates people you hope to turn into fools.

Which one are you???

Have you been given only tiny bits of the story by hdot and made to look like a fool? OR are you just trying to make fools of ignorant people who buy into you cherry picked information???

Chery picked. These days, that really pisses Americans off.
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PP: still lost at sea

by schoolin' PP Tuesday, Apr. 06, 2010 at 5:57 PM

PrionPartyy: "That is your one little fact? That I didn't go runing off to check out
some German word?"

You asked. You got. Sorry if you don't like getting what you ask for.

And sorry that you're still stuck in the 1990s, when Holocaust deniers like the neo-Nazi Ernst Zundel went around saying that there were no holes in the krema ceiling, rather than the 2000s, when photos of those holes were published.

http://holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/holes-report/holes-intro.shtml

Your funny little fantasy speculation about the wire columns you're too stupid to admit exist -- well, that's how it is, isn't it. I point out of fact, you go running to the nearest "Hitler Wasn't So Bad" site to find any lame excuse or -- in this case -- wildly speculative hand-waving to flap it away.

Even if it means pretending to be an expert in German grammar, as you fall into at the bottom of your post. What a riot. PrionPartyy the German expert. Ach, ja!
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babble weasels & work camps

by Stienfield II redux Tuesday, Apr. 06, 2010 at 11:40 PM

still going on, picking gnat shit out of pepper while avoiding the fact that zionists created the holocaust and profited off of it.
With the Warbergs as a prime example.
Trying to garnish gilt from a tired tome.
After its been blown up and sunk.
but hey
work makes [you] free...
right?
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suck seed

by PrionPartyy Wednesday, Apr. 07, 2010 at 2:58 AM

Well, when someone says you provided fact after fact, one might assume that refered to facts about the alleged gas chambera. Instead, we get diversion away from you providing facts about the actual topic.

The 2 holes Provan provided pictures of were known in the 1990s. both located in the south west corner. They both had rebar and were clearly made after the war so that people could get under the collapsed roof to enter the spaces that are still acsessable to this day. The holes shown were never a part of the structure.

But the holes Tayuber and other liars say were used to introduce the zyklon B were said to run down the middle of the room. Not in the corners. The holes tauber said existed as part of the building never existed.

As for the wire collums, they never existed in any evidence. They only existed in testimony from people who lied about the port holes running down the middle of the room.

You can say you point out a fact. But the only fact is that someone testified that something is a fact. And since they lied about holes in the roof, why would their testimony hold any water?

Again, you show how important review of evidence really is to understanding.
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Whine whine whine goes PP

by not a whiner Wednesday, Apr. 07, 2010 at 3:30 AM

Whine whine whine goes PP.

Reminding you that you haven't the first clue of what you're talking about is not a diversion. It's a simple statement of fact. Especially when you first admit you're too lazy to look up a German word, and then turn around and try to argue a point of German grammar like you're some sort of expert in the language.

Funny stuff, PP! Do you have any idea what an idiot you appear to be?

So where are we?

We've got fake showers with fake showerheads, specially doctored Zyklon B, the devices for putting the fake doctored Zyklon B into the showers, holes in the roof of the gas chambers that you think don't exist despite the fact they've been photographed.

And then we've got PrionPartyy saying "no no no no I don't believe any of it you can't make me no no no no."

Demonstrating again that all you need to be a Holocaust denier is stupidity and blindness. You've got to be too dumb to know when to quit.

You pretty obviously didn't follow that link I gave you - the one that shows the photographs of the holes in the Krema roof - because instead you rehash another cut-and-paste argument from another "gee Hitler wasn't so bad a guy" website about different holes.

What to add next? How about a "shower" whose walls still show the signature of cyanide? How about the photos of fake showerheads?
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wankers beat

by yada yada yada Wednesday, Apr. 07, 2010 at 3:55 AM

zionists argue with itself to beat and beat its meat.
Zionists created the holocaust. But the beat goes on...
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idiocy from PrionPartyy

by schoolin' PP Wednesday, Apr. 07, 2010 at 8:43 AM

"As for the wire collums, they never existed in any evidence."

Testimony *is* evidence. It's judged on how it fits in with other evidence - including other testimony.

Sheeesh.
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you can see the script

by Punch n Judy Wednesday, Apr. 07, 2010 at 10:38 AM

two hands clapping from the same evil twit.
Nothing changes.
zionists created the work camps.
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what do you know

by schoolin' PP Thursday, Apr. 08, 2010 at 5:24 AM

Maybe he's not too dumb to quit after all.
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yep

by that's what it's looking like Thursday, Apr. 08, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Dumb enough to be a Holocaust denier, yes. Smart enough to see how badly he's lost the argument, yes.
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heh

by beating on a script Thursday, Apr. 08, 2010 at 9:28 PM

the only denial going on here is the fact that zionists created the work / death camps for profit; sacrificing their working class Jewish 'brethren'.
Now they *wallow* in the horror they constructed...
but hey, do go on...
I'll just remind the readership each time you do.
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Glad you do

by school's out for PP Friday, Apr. 09, 2010 at 4:50 AM

And with that last little belch of nonsense from our local bugeyed "Look out! Illuminati!" dude, and PP having run away, I declare this thread over.
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"belch of nonsense "

by previous comment Friday, Apr. 09, 2010 at 8:07 AM

yes it sure was.
This thread didn't go so well as a huge wank about the hair in the holocaust wedding cake, huh?
The one about Auschwitz, which was created to service the I. G. Farben plants owed by the Warbergs.
A well known zionist.
Too bad, don't let the door bump yer ass on the way out.
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back at it

by PrionPartyy Friday, Apr. 09, 2010 at 5:48 PM

The german grammer bit came from IHR. Google ihr + drahtnetzeinschibvorrichtung and you can see for your self what a review looks like. They use lots of foot notes.

SO where are we?

We still got nothing more than allegations of false shower heads. "Special" zykoln B which you still can't say what the use of was without speculating. Claims of devices for putting the zyklon B into the morgue which would fit into the building as described, and pictures of holes in the roof which clearly show the rebar which would have prevented a port from being there. A hole in the roof is more than the absence of concreat. The rebar would still prevent an access port.

Since the NAZIs deloused the whole camp numerous times, I would imagine that signs of cyanide would be found in the morgue and kitchens and SS offices and post office and hospital and work stations, and on and on.

A photo of a shower head in a block of wood? That would not suprize me that a photo of a shower head in a block of wood exists. Maybe it is in the gas chamber that the Soviets had the Poles build after the war.

As it turns out, I did go to that web sight. I did look at the photos, which showed the rebar. In the articles intro, they claimed that noone was willing to adress the photos. I googled ihr + holes, and easily found their review.

as evidence goes, testimony doesn't come close to being hard evidence. How well it fits with testimony that was tortured out of NAZI prisoners doesn't impress anyone but the true believers. And the "survivor's testimony contradicts other "survivor's" testimony. If it doesn't fit the narative, the testimony of some "survivors" gets dumped and ignored by the folks pushing the gas chamber story.
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yammer monkey

by Warberg and Auschwitz Saturday, Apr. 10, 2010 at 3:22 AM

Auschwitz was created to service a zionist concern called I. G. Farbin
ha ha ha ha ha ha
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PrionPartyy loves nazi lies

by schoolin' PP Saturday, Apr. 10, 2010 at 4:28 AM

Well, what do you know. Turns out PrionPartyy isn't too dumb to quit after all. Never underestimate the idiocy of a Holocaust denier.

Moron: "They use lots of foot notes."

Easily impressed, aren't you. Take bullshit, add footnotes, and what have you got? Footnoted bullshit. When actual historians take a look at what people like IHR have to say, they rip it to pieces, because the IHR arguments can't withstand scrutiny. When idiots like you look at it, you go, "Gosh! Footnotes!" as the IHR leads you down the garden path.

Remember, the geniuses of the IHR are the same ones telling you that there were no holes in the ceiling of Krema II. The problem is, there were.

When David Irving filed his appeal -- after having been quite rightly been slapped down as a crackpot, antisemite, and Holocaust denier -- he tried to argue in his court submissions that the holes weren't there. The Lipstadt side replied with photos of the holes. Yes, rebar bent back, yes, all four holes matched up with where the overflight photos showed the chimneys.

But that put the Holocaust deniers in a bad place. Here they had spent so much time spewing so much bullshit about there not being holes in the ceiling to get the Zyklon B through, and lo -- there are the holes, exactly where they should be. And guess what, no rebar. Nice big color photographs; one's reproduced in van Pelt's book. What to do, what to do?

Well, if you're a little denial-robot like PrionPartyy, you just stick your finger in your ears and pretend they aren't there. Just go straight into childhood fantasy land. The way you just saw PrionPartyy do.

In fact, PrionPartyy gives us a great example of how a Holocaust denier "thinks." It has nothing to do with actually assessing the evidence and everything to do with finding excuses to wave that evidence away, pretend it doesn't exist.

Like the showerheads. He hasn't seen the photos, but he already has his excuse to dismiss them. That's not how historians work. That's how crackpots work.

Here's another example of how crackpots work. Because the Nazis at Auschwitz couldn't kill Jews quickly enough because the kremas weren't all built yet, they took two empty old farm houses -- their Polish owners had been expelled by the Nazis when they took Auschwitz over -- and turned them into gas chambers too. One was red, one was white. When the big gas chamber/crematoria went into action, the houses were converted to bomb shelters. After the war, the Soviets took one of the gas chambers and put it back like when it was used as a gas chamber -- with a big ol' sign calling it a reconstruction.

But what do the idiots of Holocaust denial do? They scream that the Soviets created a fake gas chamber. They totally ignore the fact that the Soviets *put up signs* saying that it was a reconstruction. Now, maybe the first people to lie about this knew they were lying. PrionPartyy is stupid and gullible enough that he may not actually know he's been lied to.

The same tests that found the traces of cyanide in Krema II *didn't* find traces of cyanide in the other place they tested, one of the barracks. So, no, the camp wasn't generally coated with cyanide residue, even though that's what the liars of Holocaust denial say when trying to explain why a "shower" (one without plumbing, and with fake showerheads) would contain cyanide residue.

Now, isn't it time for the little bot to belch something stupid about Warberg?
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keep 'em at it...

by rust never sleeps Saturday, Apr. 10, 2010 at 4:39 AM

and since the zionist yammer monkeys always need to cover their shit...
Warberg, a prominent zionazi, had Auschwitz built to service the I. G. Farben chemical synthesis plant near it.

ha ha ha ha
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which one's you, PP?

by schoolin' PP Saturday, Apr. 10, 2010 at 5:20 AM

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lookin for PP

by schoolin' PP Saturday, Apr. 10, 2010 at 5:25 AM

lookin for PP...
kkk_holocaust_a_zionist_hoax.jpg, image/jpeg, 350x509

For your next assignment, PP, tell us that these guys aren't really racists.
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wow, mom

by hide under the holocaust? Saturday, Apr. 10, 2010 at 6:38 AM

zionazi weeners....
Warberg I. G. Farben +Auschwitz
in any search engine
it must be 'Is Really' important to cover this over...
don't start shit you can't eat, zionazis
at least on this board..
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excuse you

by not impressed Saturday, Apr. 10, 2010 at 7:12 AM

Illuminati man bleched again.

Belch another bubble of incomprehension for us, Illuminati man.
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you must be impressed!

by Another Silly Fart from 'Is Real'? Saturday, Apr. 10, 2010 at 7:56 AM

ha ha I must laugh...
this is fun to point out to you dirt bags
Warberg's I. G. Farben and its attendant facility, Auschwitz were zionist enterprises.
enjoy yer life.
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coingratulations!

by schoolin' PP Saturday, Apr. 10, 2010 at 8:24 AM

You're so idiotic you make even the moron PP look smart in contrast. Who do you get to do the math problem at the bottom of the page for you?
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still cowtards, huh?

by real cowards Saturday, Apr. 10, 2010 at 12:08 PM

not once has anyone disputed the zionist creation of the holocaust by such notables as the Warbergs and their owership of I. G. Farben. ha ha ha
they just throw shit like zionazi monkies and try to change the subject.
don't start shit you can't eat, little zionazi piggies.
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not once

by not once! Saturday, Apr. 10, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Not ONCE in this thread has anyone disputed that the freemasons are made of green cheese.

Not ONCE!

hahahaha

Not ONCE in this thread has anyone disputed that WWI was fought between Maryland and Rhode Island. Not ONCE!

Not ONCE in this thread has anyone disputed that George W. Bush is a two-foot tall talking banana from the planet Mephisto!

Not ONCE!

I REST MY CASE!
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and that, people

by zionazi on MT Saturday, Apr. 10, 2010 at 1:11 PM

yup, nothing at all to counter the crap cake you started with this thread.
You wanted to talk about the death camps, huh?
But you can't talk about the death camps...
because they were created by your zionazi scum for profit.
and you wanted to discuss Auschwitz, huh; except why it was created for whom.
The Warberg zionazi family to service another criminal enterprise.
sick creatures...
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whatta genius

by not an illuminati Saturday, Apr. 10, 2010 at 2:23 PM

"But you can't talk about the death camps... "

What a perspicacious comment to stick at the end of entire thread talking about the death camps.
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not the end yet

by well, zionut? Saturday, Apr. 10, 2010 at 2:48 PM

are you saying that the Warbergs didn't own a chunk of I. G. Farben?
That Auschwitz wasn't build to provide labor for same?
That the Warbergs weren't wealthy zionists who escaped from Germany and made a profit off the same chemical plant?
Well?
When you answer those questions the thread will end.
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Illuminati man belches again

by not impressed Sunday, Apr. 11, 2010 at 4:25 AM

Poor thing. Just can't get anybody to take your fractured fairy tale even slightly seriously, can you? Maybe that's because when people google "warberg farben" they pull up all these bullshit New World Order Illuminati Troofer Freemason Antichrist Incredible Big World Oh My God Conspiracy sites. Sites where you'd fit right in.
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them also?

by I guess the word's on the street Sunday, Apr. 11, 2010 at 5:36 AM

well the truth does get out in all sorts of strange places, given the circumstances.
It was a monstrous horror you zionist freaks still wrap yourself in.
But under the wrap is the open pustules of reality.
Zionists created the very same holocaust they now try to wave at everyone.
thanks for bringing this farce in view.
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forget it, Illuminati man

by not impressed Sunday, Apr. 11, 2010 at 7:17 AM

Already have given your bugeyed conspiracy bullshit more time than it deserved. Want the last word? Go ahead and take it. Have another belch.
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loitering

by over target Sunday, Apr. 11, 2010 at 7:38 AM

I notice that you're still gagging in denial.
and blubbering way after you said you were finished but still blubbering the same non responce which of course, avoids the facts.
Like the ownership of I. G. Farben and the zionazi named Warberg who had Auschwitz built to service it.
whaaa whaaa stinky zionazi baby, don't blubber and sulk
deal wit it haw haw
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documented

by PrionPartyy Wednesday, Apr. 14, 2010 at 5:09 PM

Ah, the foot notes bit. Yes, I was a bit late on that one. I ment to adress it earlier. When you said that what passes for evidence is "documented". I'll check and point out where latter.

"DOCUMENTED". Foot notes are "DOCUMENTED" too.

So...instead of trashing the "DOCUMENTED" foot notes of IHR, you just admitted that what passes for evidence of gas chambers being "DOCUMENTED" is not actrual evidence. Ad thus, REVIEW is needed for true understanding.

Yes, you got baited by a master baiter.

Lets continue.

All four holes you insists existed as ports in the building, even though you admit that the rebar also existed, ...

"all four holes matched up with where the overflight photos showed the chimneys."

Actualy, the overflght photos showed smudges. Not chimneys. Is there a reason you TELL US to believe the smudges were chimneys?

And "all four holes", rebar included, match up with the over flight photos. "exactly where they should be" is how you describe the "holes", rebar included. BUT not with where Tauber and the other "eye witnesses", said they were to be found in the buildings they described.

"Exactly where they should be", according to overflight photos of smudges which could have been anything.

Um, is this a bad time to mention the ground photos of the building which show no chimeys. Oh, a light blanket of snow covered the building with no chimneys or bumps or snowmen or anything. A hole in the roof, even one with a covering would let heat escape and melt the snow around the alleged hole. Um, maybe latter

So, it turns out that I am not the only one saying Tauber and the other "eye witnesses" are liars. NOW, you are also saying they are liars.

And what is the reason some people say the buildings were gas chambers created to murder Jews? Why, it is because the "eye witnesses", which you too say are liars, say so.

Oh, and it is also those "eye witnesses" who testified (and this is DOCUMENTED testimony) that there were false shower heads n blocks of wood. Too bad you just admitted that they are liars. Snicker snicker.

Soviets put up signs saying the buildings they had the Poles build were "reconstructions"of gas chambers. And?

Lets see. Soviets were occupiers of Poland etc after the war. Soviets would rather be seem as liberators, much like Bush would rather be seen by Iraqis as a liberator of Iraq than an occupier. So, they had the occupied Poles construct a building that the Soviets could use to pusgh the idea that they were more liberators than occupiers.

Only one barracks was tested, other than the alleged gaschamber??? Tell us more of that one other building. Who's barracks? When was it built? How far from the camp prisoners?

And what is it with that photo of KKK saying the holocaust never happened? Why would I suggest that KKK are not racists???????????????/

ALL the KKK guys I have ever met were racist as hell. I bet that those guys were racist too.

Did you have a actual point to make???? OR were you just reminding people that if they dare to think for themselves and ask questions about the validity of the gas chamber allegations, that they too will be slandered as racists???

That is my bet. Prove me wrong by telling us what actual point you were trying to make. i bet you can't.
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so, PP....I mean Yada...

by irritating corrector Wednesday, Apr. 14, 2010 at 11:05 PM

why don't you want to talk about the Warberg family and the work camps [like Auschwitz ] that were built to service the I. G. Farben synthesis plant they owned?
Because they were zionists?
I always have to laugh when Yada pretends to be PP and it gets into 'arguments' with itself...to push the entire holocaust yada yada while ignoring the creation of this event by the ones who taught the nazis all they knew.

truth never sleeps
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perspectives

by PPyy Thursday, Apr. 15, 2010 at 2:54 AM

I consider it off topic to this thread. Off topic of a subject I know nothing about.

I also speculate that you are trying to clutter up all the stuff that is on topic with stuff that is off topic, making it harder for anyone who might come into this thread to see what is being posted on the actual topic.

So, maybe you are Yada trying to mudddy the waters because the Yada rant (A game) is so pathetic.
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oh, Yada....

by thread cluttering Thursday, Apr. 15, 2010 at 3:37 AM

off topic?
haw
It's right on topic at the very heart of the holocaust controversy.
While you 'argue' with yourself to waive the holocaust flag around; picking at the details, the primary crime of *creating* the work / death camps are all zionist.
Something you, in both of your nics has avoided like a de-lousing.
That's why you keep trying to cover it over.
haw haw
lots of luck, you psychopathic loon.
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funny how that works

by watching Illuminati boy Thursday, Apr. 15, 2010 at 1:05 PM

Hey, Illuminati boy. Let me let you into a little secret. There are more people on this board than just you and me. The people telling you what a fool you are -- we're *not all the same people*.
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not al the same people?

by but all the same crap Thursday, Apr. 15, 2010 at 6:14 PM

so?
yer point?
I mean about the zionist Warberg's ownership of I. G. Farben which was the reason Auschwitz was built? Or something else, zionazi?
All of me are waiting...as I'm sure all of you are waiting...

Does your mother know what you do for a living?
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my point

by you're right Thursday, Apr. 15, 2010 at 6:27 PM

"so? yer point?"

You're right. I shouldn't make fun of the mentally ill. I should just concentrate on the hilariously stupid, like PrionPartyy.
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har har

by "both of me?" Friday, Apr. 16, 2010 at 12:30 AM

Come on, Yada / PP....
we know you're the same creature beating your own meat.
Still doesn't address the Warbergs and their zionist creation, the work/ death camps of Auschwitz. Just to service the I. G. Farben synthesis plant they owned [ before and after the war ] for the 3rd Riech.
But yammer on about the details of this profitable enterprise, never touching the reason it was built. And for whom.
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more incoherence

by schoolin' PP Friday, Apr. 16, 2010 at 6:28 AM

I shouldn't call you Illuminati boy when you're such a dim bulb. And what is it about anti-Zionists on LA Indymedia that makes them constantly go for masturbation metaphors? Maybe I should mutter incoherently that Dim Bulb and PP are really the same guy with the same masturbation hangup.

And PP hasn't got the slightest idea of how historians actually work.

Hey, PP, what are footnotes for? Are they magic symbols that guarantee that the previous sentence was true? Nope. They're citations so that you yourself can go to the library and find out whether the author's citation really means what the author says it means.

And if you're a Holocaust denier like David Irving, when people check your citations they'll discover that again and again and again you've distorted what the source says or turned it on its head. Sometimes they'll even find that you've changed an inconvenient word or two to make the source say something other than what it says. There's a whole book about what Irving does dishonestly with his sources: it's called "Lying for Hitler."

But professional historians stake their reputation on getting their sources right and not twisting them into something they didn't say. That's the difference between historians and Holocaust deniers; with real historians, the sources check out.

So, like I said, put footnotes into bullshit and all you've got is footnoted bullshit. Stuff that will fool fools like PP.

Know what else professional historians don't do? Assume that each person is either 100% accurate or 0% accurate with nothing in between. That's not how historians work -- that's how hysterics work, people trying to find excuses to ignore someone's testimony. That's why you cross check what someone says with evidence from others, physical evidence, etc. Nobody's ever claimed that Tauber was 100% accurate. But what is claimed -- because it's true -- is that most of what he has to say checks out with other evidence, and when it doesn't it's about minor details that don't change the thrust of his testimony.

PP wants to throw everything Tauber says out because Tauber didn't estimate -- by eyeball -- the height of the ceilings in the gas chambers with perfect accuracy. Sound like PP is trying a desperate excuse to wave Tauber away? It's because he is.
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let's see here....

by last resort Friday, Apr. 16, 2010 at 7:43 AM

and your response is to engaged in name calling... again.

Never addressing the historical facts like the ownership of I. G. Farben by the zionist Warbergs or the fact that Auschwitz was built to provide the labor to run it?
I'm so surprised...
weren't you finished with this thread 24 posts back?
ha ha ha
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baiting? maybe!

by PrionPartyy Friday, Apr. 16, 2010 at 3:38 PM

Dink just used six paragraphs (one was just one sentence) explaining how important review is to understanding.

And that the DOCUMENTED evidence isn't real evidence without review.

And that just because dink admitted that Tauber and other "eyewittnesses" were liars about some things, doesn't mean Tauber and the other alleged "eyewitnesses" were liars about other aspents of their time allegedly spent in Auschwitz.

Like I said above, the people pushing the gas chamber allegations should have spent a few more months getting their story straight so that it wouldn't fall to pieces under review, which Dink just admitted was so important to understanding the truth.

SaunderKommando. Is that the correct spelling? I could easily scroll up and check, but I am too lazy for that. Besides, it doesn't matter to this question, which is...what does Saunderkommando mean? What was a saunderkommando and should anyone believe the liar Tauber?

That is some A game you got going. When you yourself admit that it comes from known liars.
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arguments about nothing, Stienfeild...

by yada yada yada Friday, Apr. 16, 2010 at 3:59 PM

sure, avoid the entire zionist ownership of the camps while you pick lint on a funeral shroud.
The funeral for lying psychopaths that debate about the type of deaths they were responsible for.
Zionist pigs like the Warbergs created the work / death camps.
Something this psycho babbling sock puppet show doesn't want to leave as a testament to the filth and evil of these creatures.
Scroll up to see how ardently they avoid this historical fact while they play, wave the holocaust flag, under the cover of 'debate'.
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you know

by eureka Friday, Apr. 16, 2010 at 5:47 PM

I don't think Illuminati boy even exists. I think he's some sort of keyboard macro spewing the same incomprehension automatically every time someone posts.
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loads o barf

by Ralph! Friday, Apr. 16, 2010 at 7:37 PM

see?
Yes, it's true.
These holocaust yammer monkeys cannot stand the light of discovery. That the holocaust was implemented by notable zionists like the Warberg family which owed I. G. Farben and had Auschwitz built to the provide labor for.
All 'they' [ really, we're dealing with one individual, playing two rolls ] can do is avoid this documented history entirely or engage in name calling; another tactic of avoidance.
It's all there foer anyone to find, if they search.
Sorry to rain on your whaaa whaaa parade, you evil psychopathic swine.
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poor PP

by schoolin' PP Saturday, Apr. 17, 2010 at 3:45 AM

Poor PP just doesn't get it, does he.

"Dink just used six paragraphs (one was just one sentence) explaining how important review is to understanding."

You mean how important *honest* review is. Which, as I showed, is not what Holocaust deniers like Irving and the IHR do. Their reputation for lies and distortions are well-earned. If you studied them in any depth, you'd find that out for yourself. But you're really not trying to educate yourself, you're really not trying to find out the facts of the Holocaust -- you're just looking for excuses to pretend it's all a big Jewish lie. Because that's what Holocaust denial is. Made by antisemites for antisemites.

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". Because that's what Holocaust denial is.

by not really Saturday, Apr. 17, 2010 at 4:04 AM

the "holocaust deniers" are the zionazis who created and made profit and now wave the flag of their own creation around like ersatz 'victims, 'Schooling Is Really Jabber Monkeys" in a Punch n Judy show of mock outrage.
Zionists built Auschwitz, made money off the death and misery of their Jewish 'brethren' and now desperately try to cover this historical fact over, * while claiming victim-hood* as they try to feed us this crap cake of zionazi propaganda.
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a comment

by observer Saturday, Apr. 17, 2010 at 6:23 PM

I've just read this thread from beginning to end, and I have to make a few comments.

1 - this PrionPartyy guy is all talk and no fact. He just keeps on embarrassing himself. The other guy is arguing rings around him.

2 - the guy who keeps bringing up Warburg hasn't figured out that his point is just too fucking stooopid for anyone to take seriously, and that's why nobody's addressing it. It's like a fly nobody's bothered to swat bragging about how much smarter he is than the humans who are ignoring him.

3 - why is 'schoolin pp' wasting so much time with such obvious morons? He's won the argument five times over, anybody who can read can see that.
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an observation

by comment Saturday, Apr. 17, 2010 at 10:35 PM

the little bug is not a fly, little spooky, it's a cricket and so far, it seems to have interrupted the hog wallow of self indulgent whining avoidance and pud pulling you had hoped to enjoy with your little holocaust fest here!
Enjoy yer plate o sh*t, zionazi 'cause the history of the Warberg zionnazi interests in their work camps [ well, like the subject of this wank, Auschwitz ] to provide labor for their I. G. Farben [ I like to be specific, since 'both' of you were ] chemical plants; is without dispute.
Or you surely would have not resorted to insults and avoidance and simply 'schooled' me and the weary reader.
So you loose again.
come back, prey....
Shall I bring all the quotes of having 'finished' this little whaaa whaaa parade, hmmmmm?
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"it's a cricket"

by only if Tuesday, Apr. 20, 2010 at 8:29 PM

"it's a cricket"

Only if "cricket" is a euphemism for nut case.
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heh heh

by of all the things! Wednesday, Apr. 21, 2010 at 12:25 AM

I would also like to remind you that despite all the things I've been called, no one has called me wrong.
Like how the zionist Warberg basically had Auschwitz built to serve his I. G. Farben chemical plane for the 3rd Reich.
yup
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wake up

by ya poor thing Wednesday, Apr. 21, 2010 at 5:09 AM

Every damn person in the thread has called you wrong. You're just too dumb to notice it.
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'all' of you?

by so...? Wednesday, Apr. 21, 2010 at 6:34 AM

'All' of you.
Steinfield's on the TV so indulge yourself there not here, where analysis and history is prone to get you tangled in your own razor wire, you weak, and cowardly little creature.
Bask in your own evil elsewhere. In private where, perhaps in the dark you can indulge yourself in shame.
Like the shame of the Warberg family for creating and profiting off the horrors of Auschwitz and then making a circle jerk from it.
So 'all' of you...go fuck yourself.
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Oh, I forgot

by delusions Wednesday, Apr. 21, 2010 at 6:54 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot -- you think everyone in this thread but you is actually the same person. Hard to keep all your delusions straight, they're such an avalanche.
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funny thing, huh?

by Sam Wednesday, Apr. 21, 2010 at 7:43 PM

well, the thing is this...
Your agency promoted this piece [ it may as well be one individual with this scripted wank ] in order to wave the holocaust flag [ again.. ] but somewhere in the Punch n Judy show, it became evident that this was all it was, a grand 'argument' about the details while the main crime was being ignored.
And actually, no has called me wrong to dispute the historical record of the Warberg interests in I. G. Farben and its Auschwitz labor camp. You have been avoiding the subject because you can't deal with that. No matter how 'many' of you there are or were.
Doesn't matter how many liars there are lying, really... one individual or one agency.
All you have been able to do is indulge in name calling and avoidance during this entire wank fest about a crime your evil cult are responsible for.
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right

by no agency Thursday, Apr. 22, 2010 at 6:26 PM

"Your agency..."

Sorry, but your paranoia has driven your post into a ditch in its first two words. If you're trying to establish credibility, you might want to start out by saying: "By the way, ignore my previous seven hundred and thirty posts, because they were obviously written by someone out of his fucking mind, but I'm feeling much better now."
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tisk

by ha ha ha Friday, Apr. 23, 2010 at 12:52 AM

still name calling as a 'counter' argument. And lying too.
It's exactly what we have come to expect from the zionut fringe,
The kind of creatures that would establish Auschwitz to service their industrial enterprises could do nothing else.
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in case you've linked this thread

by as usual Friday, Apr. 23, 2010 at 1:57 AM

this incredibly long thread that started out about a ninnying argument about whether the people in a certain work camp [ Auschwitz ] died because of gassing with Zyclon B [ an I. G. Farben product ] or died through starvation, overwork or typhus; was going to be a grand tour through victim-hood until I brought out the historical fact that the zionist Warbergs who owned I. G. Farben were responsible for the building of this work camp.
And that is your big problem here with this piece.
and calling me stooopid, crazy and yada yada means nothing and cannot change this little thorn in the pity party picnic blanket.
lets play on...
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Illuminati boy's funny delusions

by not a dribbling moron Friday, Apr. 23, 2010 at 4:18 AM

Funny, if you've read this thread and have an IQ over that of a refrigerator magnet, you'll see it pretty plainly shows PrionPartyy failing horribly to maintain his ridiculous antisemitic lies, eventually running away altogether. Followed by Illiuminati man, over and over and over, spewing conspiracy theories that fall apart the instant you hit Google.
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that pony's leg is broken

by one trick phony Friday, Apr. 23, 2010 at 5:48 AM

ha ha- still name calling and that's all...
and going psychotic to boot...
look up-

"I. G. Farben" +Warberg +Auschwitz

-dear reader, and fellow traveler through this wild toad's ride of zionist holocaust denial.
ha ha ha
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