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Protest Racist Minutemen in Hollywood

by ANSWER Coalition Wednesday, Feb. 07, 2007 at 7:42 PM
answerla@answerla.org 323-464-1636 Hollywood and Argyle, LA

Come to a counter-protest against the Minutemen and Save Our State, two neo-fascist, anti-immigrant organizations.

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Protest Racist Minutemen in Hollywood
No to Racism! No to Border Patrol Violence! Full Legalization Now!

Saturday, Feb. 10, 10:30 am
Gather at corner of Hollywood & Argyle, LA. At Metro Red Line stop Hollywood & Vine.
Or meet at the A.N.S.W.E.R. Office - 1800 Argyle Ave, #410, LA - at 10 am. It's 1 block away from the protest.

This Saturday, Feb. 10, all progressives are encouraged to join pro-immigrant organizations, including the ANSWER Coalition, at a counter demonstration against the racist, anti-immigrant "Minuteman Project" and "Save Our State." Both are neo-fascist groups. Minutemen members and supporters will be marching through Hollywood that day to support two U.S. border patrol agents and one deputy sheriff who were convicted of shooting unarmed immigrants.

Join us this Saturday to denounce Minutemen hate and expose them as the racists they really are. Bring banners and signs to show your support for immigrant rights.

Let's stand up for full equality and legalization for undocumented workers. No to racism and the Minutemen! The struggle for justice has no borders!

For more info call 323-464-1636 or e-mail answerla@answerla.org.
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Counter 'Em!!

by Truth B Told Wednesday, Feb. 07, 2007 at 9:49 PM

Thank you for posting this, I was just about to do the same!
This Counter-protest is important! ALL need to attend...I dont have to remind you of what happened last time these racist pigs came to OUR city!

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Counter 'Em!

by Truth B Told Wednesday, Feb. 07, 2007 at 9:52 PM

Thank you for posting this, I was just about to do the same!

This counter-protest is important! Everyone must attend & spread the word. I dont have to remind you of the last time these racists pigs came to OUR city!
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Criminals

by Blah Thursday, Feb. 08, 2007 at 4:41 PM

SOS and the minuteman are in support of criminals. They have said they dont support criminals but they do support 3 of them.
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Bush Lied

by Repost Thursday, Feb. 08, 2007 at 5:07 PM

The Department of Homeland Security on Wednesday apologetically retracted staff members' comments that two Border Patrol agents convicted of shooting a Mexican drug smuggler had told investigators they intended "to shoot Mexicans."

The department's inspector general issued the retraction at a congressional hearing as the department released a previously sealed report into the conduct of the two agents, Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean.

Congressional pressure to remove the two agents from prison - either through presidential pardons or by releasing them on bail pending appeal - intensified Wednesday after reports that fellow inmates assaulted Ramos over the weekend.

The case has become a cause celebre among conservative groups, which contend that Ramos and Compean were railroaded by overzealous federal prosecutors who gave the drug smuggler immunity to testify against the two agents.

U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton of San Antonio has defended his handling of the case, saying the agents seriously overstepped their authority by attempting to cover up the shooting of the smuggler, Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila, and destroying evidence. They began serving their sentences last month. Compean faces 12 years in prison, Ramos 11.

The Homeland Security Department, which includes the Border Patrol, released its inspector general's report after four Texas lawmakers demanded the document to compare it with information from a briefing that department staff members gave them in September.

The aides told the lawmakers that the two agents had admitted to investigators that they intended to "shoot Mexicans." But Inspector General Richard L. Skinner said under questioning by Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, that the statements were erroneous, and he apologized.

The report also contradicted statements made in the briefing that the two men knew that Aldrete-Davila was unarmed and didn't pose a threat. The report contained a transcript of Compean's account to investigators, in which he said that he and Ramos were trying "to kill the alien" because they thought he had a gun.

McCaul described the errors as serious misrepresentations that painted a distorted picture of the case.

"My complaint here is that they weren't forthcoming with all the evidence," McCaul said.

Skinner told McCaul that his aides apparently misquoted a statement that the two agents were attempting "to shoot the alien" after they received a telephone briefing on the case from Texas. But he said that exchange had no bearing on the outcome of the criminal case and occurred after the trial in El Paso.

"It's innocent, unintentional," Skinner said, adding that he saw no need to punish his staff.

Several Republican lawmakers demanded that the two agents be separated from other inmates or be transferred to a low-security prison. Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., also called for the dismissal of Federal Bureau of Prisons Director Harley Lappin if the inmates aren't protected.

Ramos is serving his sentence at a medium-security prison in Yazoo City, Miss., and Compean is imprisoned in Ohio. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., said Ramos' family told him that the agent's injuries are more severe than originally reported and include bleeding from an ear and possible signs of paralysis in his left arm. He said a nurse examined Ramos, but that he hasn't seen a doctor.

Reps. Walter Jones, R-N.C., and Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., blasted President Bush for not intervening in the case, with Rohrabacher hinting that he would consider pressing for impeachment if either of the two agents was killed in prison.

"The president has lost my respect because he will not step forward and do what's right," Jones said.

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MinuteKlan go home!

by 1st hand source Thursday, Feb. 08, 2007 at 9:31 PM

Get this--

two self-hating Hispanic border cops shoot an unarmed man in the back, don't tell their superiors, instead they try to cover up the crime by removing evidence at the scene like shell casings, and then lie about it later to authorities even though their fellow cops said they did it, and yet the minutemen say they're heroes?

F***'ING HEROES?!

You GOTTA be a hard-core Mexican-hater to believe that one! But, oh yeah, and they're gonna march too.

And what do we hear now from the racists at save our state, from fascist "organizer" patriotic dream, aka Chelene Nightingale? That the fox show america's most wanted is coming out this saturday to hollywood to film in support of these law-breaking pigs!

This is just too surreal. I always knew the racist corporate media would crack eventually, but I just didn't think it would happen this soon.

That's right, racists, march and rally in support of police brutality, your true fascist colors are showing now even if you've already decided to keep THAT flag in your closet on saturday, Chelene. ; )
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White supremacists

by Fredric L. Rice Friday, Feb. 09, 2007 at 2:09 PM
frice@skeptictank.org

You have to admit it's amusing. These Nazi scumbags prove once and for all that white supremacy is a myth.
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Permit March Route

by Reroute the march Friday, Feb. 09, 2007 at 6:45 PM

March will begin at the corner of Argyle and Hollywood Blvd; travel West on Hollywood Blvd to Orange Dr.; turn and travel back East on Hollywood Bl to Argyle. The cops will be escorting the march.

Also the cops will side with the Mini-Men
Remember last summer? See the link:
http://www.la.indymedia.org/archives/archive_by_id.php?id=1206&category_id=3

Protest, but be prepared for possible police violence.
Bring gas masks and first aid kits.
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LOL

by No Se Puede Friday, Feb. 09, 2007 at 7:13 PM

Silly goon, Fred. I guess all those Black Americans marching with SOS and the Minutemen are White supremacists too?

You never cease to make me burst out laughing.

MEDICATION TIME, FRED!
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heh

by Lord Locksley Friday, Feb. 09, 2007 at 7:18 PM

"You have to admit it's amusing. These Nazi scumbags prove once and for all that white supremacy is a myth"....said Fred in English
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collaborator

by V Friday, Feb. 09, 2007 at 7:32 PM

In the rise of the nazi party in german, there were jews who collaborate with the nazi party. They have no idea the nazi were against them. So, it is the same that there are a few minorities in the minuteman. Still, the minuteman dont have any minorities in the ranks. Why is that? hmm.... care to answer?
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by Jammer CC Friday, Feb. 09, 2007 at 10:27 PM

I've met some Minuteman participants who are of a race/ethnicity other than Caucasian. I told them that the leadership won't tell them everything, which I know since that was the case with me with I was involved. But no matter what I say, they blow it off and continue to defend the Minutemen with their presence. And for some of the participants, it wouldn't matter if I showed them a video of Gilchrist and Simcox drinking beer with muscular skinheads with swastika tattoos. They always just blow off everything and give the same usual reply like oh look at all the members who are not white, this is about the law, blah blah blah. When I state some specifics on what I've seen, they just come up with some maybe as an explanation and seem to hold onto it as if thinking if it could be true, then hey it is true!

I do know one thing and I'll make it perfectly clear again. When I was involved with them, Debbie Sattler was absolutely against the idea of having any Stormfront people and Nazis involved. She got mad and fiercely told two of them to "get out of here!" at a Lake Forest city council meeting. I have footage of that meeting. She, along with Robin Hvidston, stood by me and supported me when I was trying to find out about why two Stormfront people were involved in the campaign. This was when we were questioning the grassroots manager Eldon, half brother of Mary Parker Lewis. Debbie also emailed us saying she went in and yelled at Steve over this, I assume Steve Eichler. On Sept. 24 of 2005, she made it perfectly clear to me that she quit SOS(at that time) because of the involvement of the Nazis. That SOS got one of their large banners from them. That Joe Turner let the Nazis rally with them. I don't recall if she used the word "invited" as in Joe calling them up to come and rally with SOS. I'm not saying she said that. But she did say Joe let them the Nazis rally with them and I know that in that conversation, that is exactly what she was saying. That's something I always remembered since that day.

As for what Gilchrist was really doing with the two Stormfront people, I'm still not totally sure nor have I claimed to know. But as far as I know, he has not offered a public explanation while acknowledging the fact that they were involved in his campaign and some capacity. The fact is already out, verified by some of their own. He can't dodge around it. I'd like to keep bringing this up, without being too repetitive, and keep reminding people that he's still not responding. Until he comes clean with that fact and offers his explanation, this is not resolved.
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by Jammer CC Saturday, Feb. 10, 2007 at 4:40 AM

Just saw the rebroadcast of the NBC news, taped it on the VCR, and recorded it with my camcorder since it's the only way I can put it on youtube. The footage shows video with Minutemom operating the video camera and the leader of the San Diego Minutemen being angry and striking at the camera(or her?) with his hand. The news reporter states that it was over ownership of the tapes, assuming footage that Minutemom recorded with a video camera.

Wow.

Recently her youtube account was suspended. The nature of one of the videos she had on there, showing what may be a Minuteman or supporter making homophobic comments to an apparent day labor worker, is probably one of the reasons or the reason for the account suspension.

Male abusing female? I've met Minutemom in the San Juan Capistrano rally on Saturday, Jan. 27, 2007, a couple weeks ago. She wasn't a yeller from what I recall. Didn't shout out things that hardly made sense or exclaimed profanities like that guy in the Gilchrist had did. She seemed level headed and even calm. She even provided commentary for one of my videos on my youtube account, which was kinda weird. Basically I found her to be a rational, normal-behaving person. As for the guy seen in the video shown on the NBC news? I don't recall ever meeting him and I probably haven't. Simcox-like control freak? Temper tandrum?

Fight over ownership of video footage? What kind of footage? Hmmmm. I don't suppose I could encourage her in this post to show any footage, footage that other Minutemen would not want to be seen. That would look kinda sneaky of me indeed. But if she's reading this, I encourage her to gather up all the footage. If it's your camera and tapes, keep them. Secure them. Hide them! Don't let them go. It's all yours. KEEP THEM!

Eileen is having a fret over this on the SOS forums.
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by Jammer CC Saturday, Feb. 10, 2007 at 4:54 AM

video: windows media at 7.9 mebibytes

Turn up the volume to hear(carefully, the volume will come up in a few seconds)
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White supremacist scumbags

by Fredric L. Rice Saturday, Feb. 10, 2007 at 11:56 AM
frice@skeptictank.org

LOL. The insane anonymous cowards wants to pretend that blacks can't be white supremacist mother fuckers. These racist scumbags have the typical Republican IQ.
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Golly, what a rightard

by Fredric L. Rice Saturday, Feb. 10, 2007 at 11:56 AM
frice@skeptictank.org

I see that the anonymous coward wants to pretend that blacks can't be white supremacist scumbags that side with the neo-Nazi piles of rightard shit.

Good grief. The typical Republican IQ -- every racist scumbag has it.
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Golly, what a rightard

by Fredric L. Rice Saturday, Feb. 10, 2007 at 11:56 AM
frice@skeptictank.org

I see that the anonymous coward wants to pretend that blacks can't be white supremacist scumbags that side with the neo-Nazi piles of rightard shit.

Good grief. The typical Republican IQ -- every racist scumbag has it.
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Low IQ is the answer

by Fredric L. Rice Saturday, Feb. 10, 2007 at 3:32 PM
frice@skeptictank.org

> In the rise of the nazi party in german, there were
> jews who collaborate with the nazi party. They have
> no idea the nazi were against them. So, it is the
> same that there are a few minorities in the
> minuteman. Still, the minuteman dont have any
> minorities in the ranks. Why is that? hmm.... care to
> answer?

It's always a low IQ that's the answer to this not-so-mysterious question. There are still about 28% of the American populace that supports, applauds, and defends the war crime atrocities against humanity being committed by the Bush regime and every one of those who still support the butchers suffer from low intelligence.

So it is with the non-white white supremacists that sign up with such hate cults. They labor under the mistaken belief that they're not racists and that their white ringleaders aren't racists. Poor intelligence is the problem.

On the plus side, we don't see many non-whites signing up with such white supremacist hate cults.
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by Jammer CC Saturday, Feb. 10, 2007 at 8:05 PM

"Caught Lying Again" makes four points.

The first point has been proven wrong by yours truly in regards to Jim Gilchrist and his campaign. As for do what degree the connection is, I don't know nor have I claimed to. As for SOS, Duane Roberts has the evidence on that which he's spoken about already.

As for the second point, I never said Turner and Gilchrist support any Neo Nazi or Stormfront effects or any of their groups or organizations for what they are. But as for accepting their help, that's another store.

The third point is true, but does not mean jack.

Same with the fourth point, that was done publicly which again does not mean jack.
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by Jammer CC Saturday, Feb. 10, 2007 at 8:08 PM

That post is now hidden, which is fine since we've been thru that cycle too many times. Just pathetic attempts by the Minutemen to dominate discussions and stall for time. It's what they do out on the street very well. And right-leaning people complain about this tactic being used by the liberals!

"store was supposed to be "story," "effect" is "efforts." Just tired from work to type right now.
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by Jammer CC Thursday, Feb. 15, 2007 at 6:26 PM

Looks like another of my videos on youtube was removed. One more and I'm banned LOL. Oh well. I may seek a way to send video footage to any who request it. Any of the clips shown on my youtube account and more. Now sure how it will work, but I'd like anyone to have access to any of my footage. I keep the originals of course. I mean copies of it in Windows Media Video format. They'll always be available for the world to be seen. If any Minutemen act vulgar, violent, and racist and I'm there with a camcorder, it will be on the internet. Count on it.
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