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Bomblets continue to kill in Lebanon

by ALJ Tuesday, Oct. 10, 2006 at 3:48 PM

Unexploded Israeli bombs and devices dropped during Israel's war on Hezbollah have killed 21 and injured more than 100 Lebanese civilians.

Unexploded Israeli bombs and devices dropped during Israel's war on Hezbollah have killed 21 and injured more than 100 Lebanese civilians.

The unexploded bombs, mostly sub munitions, landed indiscriminately in civilian areas, the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) said on Sunday.

The OCHA said it had recorded 608 areas where cluster munitions landed, "with more locations being identified every day".

UN humanitarian chief Jan Egeland in August said it was "completely immoral ... that 90 per cent of the cluster bomb strikes occurred in the last 72 hours of the conflict when it was clear a UN resolution was about to bring about a ceasefire".

Lebanese police said that 21 people had been killed by the bomblets, including 16 civilians and five army bomb-disposal experts, since the 34-day conflict ended on August 14.

Scattered bombs

The Lebanese army says that there are "possibly around one million" unexploded bombs scattered around the south.

The Israeli newspaper Haaretz said the Israeli army fired at least 1.2 million rockets into Lebanon during the conflict.

The cluster bombs used by Israel contain hundreds of bomblets which are dispersed over a large area. Those that do not explode on impact turn into lethal anti-personnel mines.

More

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/1337132A-5FF4-445F-BB70-7E84E65E082E.htm

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Cluster bombs

by That is true terrorism Tuesday, Oct. 10, 2006 at 3:55 PM

Cluster bombs, a case study in terrorism

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You are sick and blinded

by So it was the Lebanese children's fault? Tuesday, Oct. 10, 2006 at 5:37 PM

You are sick and blinded if you think that there is anything o.k. about cluster munitions and the fact that so many bomblets can just lay around and explode on some child later.

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Double standards, vacuous insults

by SJ Tuesday, Oct. 10, 2006 at 6:05 PM

First off, I hope the moderator currently pushing the delete button will be fair enough to let my posts remain as long as this discussion goes on. But I'm not holding my breath given rabid anti-Zionist (wink-wink) notions of fairness.

The Lebanese reaped what they sowed. Had they risen up against Hizballah right after the Syrian "withdrawal" from Lebanon, this plaight of theirs probably wouldn't have come to pass. Mind you, not even one shot was fired by the popular Lebanese movement that caused the removal of the Syrian army before the Hizbollah provoked the latest round of warfare. Did it not occur to the southern Lebanese to do the same about Hizbullah?

As to the dumbfucked ad hominem now being lobbed at me, "So it was the Lebanese children's fault?", you're using a tear jerking strawman apealing to emotions, and I won't debate with such. You're also ignoring that I didn't even approve of cluster bombings. Why aren't you balancing your concern for Lebanese with a concern for the Isdraeli citizens that have to guard themselves from unexploded Hizbullah ordinance still strewn across parts of the Galilee and Golan? I fear your bigotry is showing again. Until you discard this lopsided concern for Arabs, I'm dismissing your objection. You're just distracting and deflecting from the question why the civilian population didn't rise up against Hizbullah the way they did against the Syrian presence.

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Coming to a realization

by Moshe Tuesday, Oct. 10, 2006 at 6:16 PM

The Israelis reaped what they sowed. Had they risen up against IOF terror squads this plaight of theirs probably wouldn't have come to pass. Israel provoked the latest round of warfare. Did it not occur to the people of Israel that they cannot win through violence?

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what is that smell?

by sniff- sniff- P U! Tuesday, Oct. 10, 2006 at 6:38 PM

'97 percent of the West Bank was go to the Palestinians' cut up into a million separate security zones and enforced at israel's whim. Palestine in its entirety belongs to the people who lived there, not your pirate state.

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Sheepdawg shrieks racism in despair

by SJ Tuesday, Oct. 10, 2006 at 6:38 PM

"Isn't this typical?"

We'll shortly see the attitude that typifies your racist mode of conducting a discussion when things aren't flowing the way you'd like.



MEe:

...you're using a tear jerking strawman appealing to emotions, and I won't debate with such.

Master Race canine shephed:

"Such things, of course, don't matter unless they're 'his' peoples' children."

You're just escalating to racism cuz your bigoted concern for Lebanese alone was exposed. Needless to say your remark is dismissed as a logical fallacy -- a strawman appealing to racism. You deflected and tried yet again to distract from why you're refusing to show concern for Israeli civilians in danger from unexploded Hizbullah ordinance in the Galilee and Golan. We know only Arabs count to you as people in this conflict.

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one thing

by Sheepdog Tuesday, Oct. 10, 2006 at 8:12 PM

"This claim doesn't become truer than the lie it is now that you've just bothered to trumput it once more"

Is the situation such that you must deny the obvious?

You must be getting tired of being foolish to everyone with statements like the one you made. The entire world knows about the innumerable israeli only roads license plates roads and Palestinian only check points, while the invaders pass freely.

Are you that dysfunctional?

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Cluster bombs REALLY aren't THAT bad....what b.s. from b.j.

by More zionist propaganda Tuesday, Oct. 10, 2006 at 10:23 PM

http://www.hrw.org/campaigns/israel_lebanon/clusters/index.htm

(Soon they'll start calling HRW "antisemitic".)

Fast Facts on Israel’s Use of Cluster Munitions in Southern Lebanon

As of September 28, at least 18 people had been killed and at least 108 injured by cluster submunitions.

The UN Mine Action Coordination Center South Lebanon (UNMACC) has estimated that Israel fired as many as four million submunitions into Lebanon during the conflict in July and August 2006. For comparison, Coalition forces used about 1.9 million submunitions in Iraq in 2003, and the U.S. Air Force used about 248,000 submunitions in Afghanistan in 2001-2002.

UNMACC has identified 749 cluster munition strike locations, with more being discovered every day.

The UN has stated that around 90 percent of all cluster munitions were fired into south Lebanon during the last 72 hours of the conflict. Most cluster munitions were delivered by artillery or ground rockets; a limited number appear to have been dropped by aircraft.

The UN has estimated that one million hazardous unexploded submunitions may litter the ground. Demining experts are estimating that the failure rates of Israel’s submunitions were between 30 and 40 percent.

So far, more than 30,800 submunitions have been cleared and destroyed by UNMACC and its contractors, UNIFIL, and the Lebanese Armed Forces.

Unexploded submunitions are killing or injuring an average of three people daily in Lebanon. As of September 28, at least 18 people had been killed and at least 108 injured by cluster submunitions.

Many farmers have not been able to harvest current crops or plant their winter crop due to the submunition contamination. Unexploded submunitions also pose a threat to returnees, humanitarian workers, and peacekeepers.
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Wrong. I'm sure they are 'acceptable' deaths to you, b/c they aren't Israelis

by Wrong. I'm sure they are 'acceptable' deaths Wednesday, Oct. 11, 2006 at 12:01 AM

Wrong. I'm sure they are 'acceptable' deaths to you, b/c they aren't Israelis.

But these are happening after the fighting is OVER!

There's no 'relative' amount here!

Absured that you continue to defend all things Israel--even when you say you don't support cluster munitions being used.

Would you support continued deaths in Isral from leftover cluster munitions? Would you be making the same statements as to how they aren't 'that bad'..?????

You know that you wouldn't.

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Where are the reports on Israeli deaths or injuries?

by TW Wednesday, Oct. 11, 2006 at 2:38 AM

Here Becky, try these. I'm SURE you'll find what you're looking for in EVERY ONE of these!

http://www.foxnews.com/

http://www.cnn.com/

http://abcnews.go.com/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

http://www.cbsnews.com/

http://www.nytimes.com/

http://www.npr.org/

http://www.jpost.com/

http://www.frontpagemag.com/

http://www.onlyisraelmatters.net/

http://www.wewillruleovertheuntermenschenslaves.org/

See Becky, people come to *THIS* site to find some RELIEF from the relentless pro-Israel media sledgehammer trying to splatter our brains out of our ears all the time. You already have 99% of media coverage saying what you like, but you have to have that last 1% too cuz you're just GREEDY. Only a fanatical BIGOT could fail to understand how GREEDY your attitude is. YOU are a BIGOT, Becky

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Shater yid is cute

by what a guy Wednesday, Oct. 11, 2006 at 3:41 PM

too bad he seems to get lost in his own diatribes.

Has he denied the check points ?

Has he denied the israeli only roads?

He likes to think big words, and many of them,will hide the oppression the Palestinian natives have to endure under israeli occupation

Denial is only good for the first few times it's used.

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Let's turn this around

by Sheep is a dawg Wednesday, Oct. 11, 2006 at 3:49 PM

Has Sheepdog denied the suiocide bombings committed by Palestinians?

Has he denied the Hizbullah agenda of anti-Jewish genocide?

He likes to think distractions, and many of them, will hide the plight the Jewish natives have to endure under jihadist Muslim belligerence.

Denial is only good for the first two times it's used.

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Solution: Stop throwing rocks!

by Becky Johnson Wednesday, Oct. 11, 2006 at 7:39 PM
Santa Cruz, CA.

I urge readers to catch up on my previous comments:

The following post has status hidden:

Dangers of Cluster bombs vastly over-stated

by Becky Johnson • Monday, Oct. 09, 2006 at 5:40 PM

Santa Cruz, CA.

All the data agree

by Becky Johnson • Monday, Oct. 09, 2006 at 6:42 PM

Santa Cruz, CA.

BECKY: Although my posts were original to this thread, on topic, didn't slip into ad hominem attacks, and critically examined the lead article, they were hidden.

Apparently the stated rules on editorial policy are not the de facto ones.

Okay, enough of MY hurt feelings. How about that Sheepdog??

He HAS to bring up "Israeli-only" roads in a thread about cluster bomblets. How that is ON TOPIC, I will never know.

Anyway, once again, I must explain that they are not Jewish only roads. The Arab-Israelis can use them just as easily as the Jewish Israelis can. Also, Palestinians can apply for a permit to use the roads, undergo a security check, and if htey pass it, they can get a sticker that allows them to use the same roads as ISRAELI CITIZENS DO.

The issue is citizenship and not racism.

The reason is security and not race or religion.

What Californian readers don't know, is that before Israel put in these special bypass roads with security checks on access, people driving thru Palestinian villages got rocks thrown at them, or even shot at. It was BECAUSE OF THE CONSTANT PALESTINIAN VIOLENCE that Israel was forced to put in and pay for an alternate system of roads.

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