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by Minutemen Suck!
Saturday, Jul. 15, 2006 at 9:08 AM
Come demonstrate against the MinuteKKKlan in Laguna Beach!
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MinuteKKKlansman from all over Southern California will be rallying in Laguna Beach this Saturday ... http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14141&pid=129084&st=0entry129084 Please join fellow activists OUTRAGED by the City Council of Laguna Beach's decision to lease the land for the day laborers' use from Caltrans. *See Eileen Garcia's report at the end of this email. Immigration reform activists - Minutemen, SOS, CCIR will stage across the street from Laguna Beach in protest of the Laguna Beach City Sanctioned Day Laborer Site. SIGN SUGGESTIONS: SHAME ON LAGUNA BEACH LAGUNA BEACH HARBORS ILLEGAL ALIENS YOUR TAX DOLLARS SUPPORT ILLEGAL ALIENS BOYCOTT LAGUNA BEACH DATE Saturday, July 15 TIME 10am - 1pm LOCATION next to GANAHL LUMBER 1765 Laguna Canyon Rd, Laguna Beach, CA PLEASE JOIN US!!!
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by Pachuco
Sunday, Jul. 16, 2006 at 11:11 AM
Anyone got something to report?
I'm curious about the turnout, see if anyone braved the heat . . . or hit the surf and left the Minute MenSOS to toast under the Aztlan Sun.
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by Jammer CC
Sunday, Jul. 16, 2006 at 12:04 PM
Leslie Radford was there taking notes. Duane Roberts was there, but I'm not sure if he was reporting. I got some pics and footage, but not a whole lot. I wasn't there to report. I was there to observe and show some support for the day labor workers.
I got footage of Jim Gilchrist yelling at me, asking me how many little boys and girls did I molest today, calling me Cliff the Commie or something, and calling me Benedict Arnold. Hopefully the camcorder picked up his voice. It may be another case like the footage of 1inchgroup where we may have to turn up the volume to hear his nonsense ranting.
For the record, I've never molested anyone in my life. Not that anyone was about to believe that coming from Jim Gilchrist of course. And now I'm not a "commie."
There was a LOT more Minuteman/SOS participants there today than I expected. Penny the Minutewomen managed to have her car collide with a bicyclist and make him fall down. Took a while before he got up. Expect the Minutemen/SOS to get totally reemed for this one, at least in the media. As a public safety issue, I'm sure the Minutemen/SOS will be monitored a LOT more if they try to protest at Laguna Beach again. Way to go Penny.
There was lots of chants from counter-demonstrators involving the word "Nazi(s)." I didn't take part in any such chants. I'm sure most of the MM/SOS participants don't have an actual Nazi/KKK mindset. But a lot do take the idea of being an American citizen to similar levels of attitude.
I held a sign that read "Independent support of day labor workers." Independent was a key word which I later underlined on the sign, meaning I'm not a member of any groups such as ANSWER or Green Party or any other.
I meant to stand aside from the main group to further show this. But for my health I need the shade by the day labor center. So I ended up interacting with some people and that's okay. I support the workers in what they're willing to do, that is work for pay. One of them held a Mexican flag and sometimes an American flag as well.
More later.
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by Jammer CC
Sunday, Jul. 16, 2006 at 12:04 PM
I meant NO I'm not a commie, not the word now. I've never been one.
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by El Che
Sunday, Jul. 16, 2006 at 12:29 PM
There is only one word to describe what happened to the DLC and the goon gaurd in front of it.... OWNED.
Pickups = zero. There would have been some if the goon gaurd would have stayed home, so pat yourselves on the back for taking the food out of their mouths today. So much for 'no impact'. What were you thinking ?
Cliff, I heard you spelled INDEPENDENT wrong today on your signage.
As far as accidents go, they happen. And that is the whole idea, to create a total scene in front of this wrongful use of taxpayer monies.
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by Jammer CC
Sunday, Jul. 16, 2006 at 12:43 PM
First of all, accidents happen and the idea is to use them to create a scene, including hitting bicyclists and hurting them with cars? I'm sure you didn't mean it like that, but I dunno, you can explain.
As for blocking the work, you guys did that for one freaking day. Whoop dee doo. There was even some on your side who came to the day labor side to photograph and stuff.
And Border Raven drove his truck into the day labor center drive thru. I have to say, he had guts for doing that. It was funny to see.
Joe was saying something about me mispelling "independent" but I spelled it like that, "independent." I thought I heard him say I should use some other word, or maybe he was trying to make me think I mispelled a word. I may have accidently used a wrong letter, like that's a big issue here. At least I didn't ram my car into a guy on a bike, knocking him down on the ground long enough for a ten count.
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by Jammer CC
Sunday, Jul. 16, 2006 at 1:11 PM
Thanks for posting. I really don't like to double post. Now I can post again.
Hey I'm not the one who was holding a banner that read "Brokebutt Border" out in public making humping gestures to motorists. In Laguna Beach of all places.
I was just across the road getting footage of it. I could barely keep the camcorder still cause I was laughing. Thanks for the laughs, it made my day.
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by Jammer CC
Sunday, Jul. 16, 2006 at 1:21 PM
No I wasn't insinuating that. Read carefully. It sounded like you were taking an unfortunate accident and seeing some kind of good out of it, in your view. But I was sure that you didn't really mean it that way. (here's a hint, I'm actually favoring you in this point, duh)
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by Jammer CC
Sunday, Jul. 16, 2006 at 1:32 PM
Ticking off "elites" in Laguna Beach and backing up their traffic. Well, there's a sure way to win support.(sarcasm)
I re-read what I typed and at first glance it looked like I was insinuating that you would cause accidents to create a scene. But I honestly didn't mean it that way. What I meant was it looked like you were taking note of an accident and saying, "well, it creates a scene, good!" I'm also saying that while it looked like that, I was still sure that you didn't really mean it that way. But i wanted to be sure.
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by Mike
Sunday, Jul. 16, 2006 at 1:35 PM
Preach, I remember hearing you say once when you guys were up in Glendale that it's wasn't your goal or the general goal of SOS to directly hurt day laborers.
Have you changed your position? You seem elated that there were no pickups. Are you guys really just trying to hurt the day laborers? I thought you guys had at least some kind of big picture analysis.
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by V
Sunday, Jul. 16, 2006 at 2:08 PM
Mike, don is just pulling your chain. he worked with "minorities" that is why he back stabbed the day laborer.
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by Jammer CC
Sunday, Jul. 16, 2006 at 2:19 PM
El Che is Old Preach? I didn't see him at Laguna Beach today.
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by Jammer CC
Sunday, Jul. 16, 2006 at 2:46 PM
video: windows media at 7.9 mebibytes
Here's a quick clip of the loud guy wih the "Brokebutt Border" banner doing pelvic thrusts to go with his banner. Out in public. At motorists. In Laguna Beach. Yes, out in public. This really happened.
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by Mike
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 8:05 AM
Well, celebrating that the day labor center had no pickups and then saying that the day laborers are collateral damage is like celebrating that civilians are killed in a war. It's obviously not nearly as bad but it still makes you guys low human beings with an inability to see the big picture.
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by WillowLu
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 10:39 AM
From: http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/local/article_1213272.php "Only 17 of the 60 day laborers got jobs Saturday, usually one of the busiest days of the week." The following excerpt is wholly unbelievable and indicative of the Register's usual slanted style of journalism: "A bicyclist suffered minor road burn when he bumped a car driven by an anti-illegal-immigration demonstrator who was trying to park." The big, bad bicycle bumped the poor car did it? Hmmm....
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by Kelly Clarkson
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 10:52 AM
the Nazis/Min-iots/SoS have failed in: Laguna Beach Baldwin Park San Bernardino
it's enough to make me sing!
la la la-a-a-a-a-a-a
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by Jammer CC
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 11:45 AM
Exactly. The Laguna day labor center is still open. The city made sure it will run for at least another year, which in this case basically means it's open period.
It gets more and more amazing to me to see the MM/SOS participants still behave this away after all this time. It didn't take me long to put more thought into this and decide on better actions. What the heck is still compelling the MM/SOS to continue seeking conflict, even hostility, to the point of a guy with a "Brokebutt Border" banner simulating humping movements to motorists on a public road?
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by Kelly Clarkson
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 11:50 AM
I read one of the immigrant defenders was nabbed
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by V
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 11:50 AM
sos/mmp had failed at alhambra day laborer center too. they did not rallied for a several months after the event.
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by Kelly Clarkson
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 11:53 AM
what a bunch of pendejos!!!
Hopefully Laguna Beach will get a 99 year lease from Caltrans for the DLC!!!
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by Immigrant
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 12:18 PM
We will win. So we will have a hundred immigrants standing around on every corner of the U.S. looking for work. It will be a beautiful sight!
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by Gunny
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 2:46 PM
I guess Bababooey got a little old but Kelly Clarkson??????
Another cyber sex change. Now you're really creeping me out man.
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by Desmond
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 2:55 PM
Tell me what the Corps and globalist are doing? and what is your definition of globalist?
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by Roger
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 3:03 PM
"We will win. So we will have a hundred immigrants standing around on every corner of the U.S. looking for work. It will be a beautiful sight!"
This is either a joke or the most pathetic thing I have read on indymedia. That some clown imagines millions of mexicans standing around hoping some white guy needs his rain gutters cleaned . Talk about lowered expectations. What a shit hole Mexico has become when that is considered an improvement.
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by Roger
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 3:23 PM
I was just kidding aobut the above comment. I'm just angry because I was raped by a strong man of Mexican descent.
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by El Che
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 3:31 PM
Pack your bags you brainwashed sucker.
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by Immigrant
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 3:41 PM
We don't have an education and we are poor but we don't need anything to have babies. Soon we will inhabit the entire continent. It will all be brown. We will build shanty towns in every city. Give us jobs, we want to work. If you don't, we will steal from you, because we have to. Give us what we want, now. One way or another you will give us everything. We are victims of your racism. Death to America. We hate you, now let us work in your country.
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by Roger
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 3:43 PM
What do u mean El Che by this?
>>>Corps and globalists contiure their agenda's that the MM's and SOS fight against.
Are you a commie? I want to know.
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by mike
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 3:45 PM
"Corps and globalists contiure their agenda's that the MM's and SOS fight against. "
I guess you can look at it that way but for one thing you guys attack the most vulnerable and people who are front-line victims of this corporate globalizations you speak of.
Full rights and amnesty for immigrants might actually burn the corporate globalists more because their cheap and easily exploitable labor force of millions would suddenly disappear.
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by observant
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 3:52 PM
If you keep calling everyone who disagrees with you "Nazis", you will legitimize the word and the concept of Nazism, on the principle that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
lots of people are beginning to say: if nazis can get rid of the Stizos for us, maybe it is not a bad thing.
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by V
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 4:27 PM
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Don the donkey Silva of Save Our State holds a sign with Avocate and Nicole holds an american flag are in neonazi organization, National Vanguard. also, Don Silva have posted at Stormfront. This event took place in Laguna Beach about a year ago.
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by Pete Nice
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 5:31 PM
Roger got confused because you were using the name "El Che". He probably is a dumbfuck.
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by Jammer CC
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 7:57 PM
The female's name is actually Megan in that photo, not Nicole.
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by correction
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 9:03 PM
Her name is Megan Nicole "The Sex Goddess" Parisi.
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by correction
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 9:05 PM
her last name might actually parigi or something . . . we like to call her Dixieland Delight/
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by Jammer CC
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 9:51 PM
Yes that may be her full name, I'm sure. I just know the first name she goes by is Megan and she's been to SOS rallies along with others.
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by Jammer CC
Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 at 9:53 PM
And no the posts by "correction" weren't by me. I'm not aware of full names like Megan's and don't care. I don't pry into that kind of personal information.
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by informer
Tuesday, Jul. 18, 2006 at 6:43 AM
BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND! SHAME ON LAGUNA BEACH Part 2 Saturday July 22nd 8 AM - 11 AM Laguna Beach DLS Laguna Canyon Rd. across from Ganhl Lumber
Theme this time is.... "WAKE UP LAGUNA BEACH" Brought to you by the Gilchrist Angels
www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14286
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by Fredric L. Rice
Tuesday, Jul. 18, 2006 at 8:50 AM
frice@skeptictank.org
If the suggestion that the SOS/MM aren't neo-Nazis et al. is true, why are their ideologies so closely matched that they stand on street corners and sidewalks shoulder to shoulder?
It should be obvious that at core there's little to distinguish such gatherings from their ideologies. If SOS/MM wanted to pretend they're not neo-Nazi or ideologically in lock step, SOS/MM would need to explain why they have neo-Nazi members, supporters, followers, and all that happy nonsense.
"We didn't invite them" isn't a legitimate complaint. And it's even less legitimate when it's found that overt membership in acknowledged neo-Nazi groups of people are discovered and exposed.
Some day an SOS/MM follower needs to explain why he or she ignores what appears to be rampant neo-Nazi membership, support, following et al. -- hopefully while employing reason and honesty.
My opinions only and only my opinions.
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by Fredric L. Rice
Tuesday, Jul. 18, 2006 at 9:25 AM
frice@skeptictank.org
> It gets more and more amazing to me to see > the MM/SOS participants still behave this way
It _is_ interesting, though, isn't it? Mr. Gilchrist aspires to political office, for Xenu's sake, and yet he apparently has no qualms against being photographed and videotaped like this on street corners like... -- well, I refuse to enumerate what protesting against _people_ looks like. Protesting against a massive _wrong_ is a legitimate act. Protesting against _people_ is something I couldn't imagine ever doing.
What kind of a proto-politician does such a thing? If you've never seen the movie "Doctor Zhivago," watch it and you'll get some idea, in my opinion, of the mindset that looks to me motivates the behavior you observed.
And "Brokebutt Border?" Such intellecual acumen depicted in such rhetoric could only have sprung from the mind of a Republican. The mindset that would allow such a person to actually go out in public and be seen holding such a sign -- regardless of the simulated anal sexual behavior -- it seems to be speaks volumes about the people who oppose others who are only trying to work to feed themselves and their families.
What's just as enlightening is the fact that none of the person's ideological brothers felt the need to ask the individual to hide the sign and stop his related behavior. It speaks volumes about the mindset of the people he was with. When pickets are enacted for rightful causes, when anyone shows up with such inappropriate behavior, others politely ask for the inappropriate behavior to be stopped. This self correction doesn't appear to be a phenomena among those who wish to inflict _wrongs_ against people.
These SOS/MM/Aryan Nations/Storm Front et al. people exhibit much of the same behavior and motivations as anti-abortion extremist kooks, in my opinion, and the apparent glee that an innocent bystander was struck by an alleged white supremacist makes me think that suppressed violence among the racists is constantly on the ragged edge of exploding into violent acts against their intended victims.
I'm against illegal immigration as I've always said. But I'm against hatred and bigotry even more.
My opinions only and only my opinions.
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by Jammer CC
Tuesday, Jul. 18, 2006 at 9:30 AM
I was going to run a list, but wasn't sure how to arrange it. But yeah, exactly. I couldn't get any clear answers on why there was at least two Stormfront white nationalists in Gilchrist's campaign, plus I was kicked out for my efforts. So I decided to go public and if there's nothing wrong, they can explain and no problem. But they didn't and still won't.
I asked Gilchrist to publicly reject white supremacy on KFI. He didn't do it.
There are similar talking points and choice of words between the Minuteman groups and the KKK/National Alliance groups.
That documentary "The Line in the Sand" by October Sun Films may be another connection. It featured Chris Simcox and others, an Arizona Ranch Rescue guy with iron cross tatoos, and Alex Linder from Vanguard News.(I saw a guy who looked exactly like Linder at the Laguna Beach city council meeting. I waited til he spoke in one of the appeal things, it's some other guy. That was pretty startling. But still keeping practice in remembering faces.)
Gilchrist ran for Congress under the American Independent Party, the one started by George Wallace.
They constantly talk about the law, but also constantly talk about how the Mexican culture will have negative impacts on the US.
I started in July of last year, fresh and new before putting enough thought into it. Came across the Nazis in Laguna. Got mixed up with a friend who may have been borderline, but hopefully isn't anymore. Then the incident in the Gilchrist campaign and I got the F outta there. Now I wonder why everyone else is still at it, yelling at Mexican workers in Laguna Beach, being okay with a "Brokebutt Border" banner, exercising hate group symptoms in CCIR meetings, etc.
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by BaBaBooey!
Tuesday, Jul. 18, 2006 at 11:10 AM
since you seem to have some kind of psycho sexual obsession about my identity, here's what I'll do.
Since you associate with that dirty little turdball Last Great Dope aka Chris Spellman, Chris Mendez, or whatever it calls itself this week I'll put him under surveillance since not too hard to track him when he drives around town in his powder blue SUV.
This will eventually lead me to YOU.
Then, at the very end, you will know the truth...
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by BaBaBooey!
Wednesday, Jul. 19, 2006 at 8:05 AM
and they're publishing addresses. click and scroll to the bottom http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14264
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