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Nazis/SOS will be in downtown L.A. Sat June 17

by BaBaBooey Thursday, Jun. 08, 2006 at 9:42 AM

Stay tune for exact time/place

from the Nazi-SOS website:





Patriotic Dream
Yesterday, 04:38 PM
Post #1


Activist


Group: Activists
Posts: 903
Joined: 20-June 05
Member No.: 887




Yes, you read correctly!!! For the illegal supporters, start posting on your sites...we looking forward to seeing you all again!!!

I am working with Ted again on this and Barbara Coe will also be assisting!!! Some great news to announce. Details coming soon!!!

I expect EVERYONE that marched last time to join us again!!! And for those who wished they had marched, well make your wish come true and join us!!!!

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BTW....

by BaBaBooey! Thursday, Jun. 08, 2006 at 9:46 AM

I wonder if that 3rd generation anchor baby, Chelene Nightingale, whose ancestors were W.O.P.s (With Out Papers) will be wearing the confederate rag this time?
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time

by V Thursday, Jun. 08, 2006 at 11:08 AM

From Chelene the psychobitch: The parade will begin at 10am on Saturday, June 17th. (Gathering will start at 9am). We will be marching to City Hall once again!!

also, just in Lupe Moreno loss big time in the race of the state senate
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another BTW

by Gunny Thursday, Jun. 08, 2006 at 3:37 PM

Yeah once again Mr. Maldona... oops... I mean BabaBooey! you see the symbol and manage to forget the fact that shes sharing a banner with a black woman.

You on the other hand really should ditch that Jed Clampett hat you seem so proud of. As long as we're talking fashion.
Gunny
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gunny

by V Friday, Jun. 09, 2006 at 6:50 AM

do u have proof chris spelman oh wait gunny.
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Hey Gunny, Dummy, whatever, she wants to pick thecotton

by BaBaBooey! Friday, Jun. 09, 2006 at 11:21 AM

of her Aryan supermasters. That's why said black woman stands next to the confederate rag waving 4th generation W.O.P. (With Out Papers) missing-link-to-Pithecanthropus Chelene Nightingale.

What's with the obsession with Maldonado? Is there a secret you would like to divulge?
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This is the Paul Revere Ride

by Leslie Friday, Jun. 09, 2006 at 12:41 PM

The event is the , supported by
Frosty Wooldridge. Ted Hayes is sponsoring the group locally, presumably with SS187, the neo-Nazi Save Our State biker. They're gathering sometime around 9:00 a.m.

From
Wooldridge:

"Major objective: The 21st Century Paul Revere Riders' major objective connects the dots by informing Americans of all walks of life, in small towns and big cities across America about the dangers of unending legal and illegal immigration.

"Six men and two women motorcycle riders will reach millions of Americans via 100 radio interviews, 200 TV interviews and an estimated 400 to 500 newspaper interviews from small town dailies to big city papers.

"We expect to reach in excess of 50 million Americans concerning the dangers of continued immigration-driven population growth that exceeds 'carrying capacity' within the United States of America.

"Riders will cover 48 state capitals on their way to Washington, DC. We expect to impact the 2006 elections focusing on immigration AND getting MORE Americans involved on a continuous and ongoing basis to support “the reaping of freedom…” as Thomas Paine had said back in 1776. This will show our American forefathers and mothers that we CAN KEEP OUR REPUBLIC!!!"
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No One Show Up

by Pachuco Friday, Jun. 09, 2006 at 2:27 PM

I realized that without us, they don't have an audience . . .
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No audience?

by Stephen Friday, Jun. 09, 2006 at 2:40 PM

Please, pachuco. Its the other way around and always has been. You guys NEVER had a venue to spout your mexican supremacy until SOS and the Minutemen started staging demonstrations.

You're opportunistic parasites.
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Audience

by Pachuco Saturday, Jun. 10, 2006 at 8:10 AM

There is no supremacy message, that is the distortion of the Antis to call for a race war.

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LOL, the little monky and his bannas...

by canat Saturday, Jun. 10, 2006 at 8:36 AM

....
.ohh great,
here comes pochocho with his little bag of lies again.

SEPRATISM

COLONIALISM

RACISM

are all you got to offer pochocho,
mecha manifesto? more like Manifest Destiny
that has destroyed more Natives
than could ever be counted

you are so far away from humanity it not even funny
but, you have been useful
in allowing others that
WORK for America, work for Humanity
against racism, against hatred
against INGNORANCE
to be
able to SEE the ENEMY in full LIGHT
thank you.
please, continue.
c/s
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multiculturalism?

by v Saturday, Jun. 10, 2006 at 9:01 AM

all of mmp/sos are against multiculturalism u could ask brooke young, joe turner, chris spelman, chelene nightgale, don silva, jim gilchrist and the rest them. what is the matter of multiculturalism?
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Canat's Main Squeeze

by Pachuco Saturday, Jun. 10, 2006 at 11:08 AM

Canat's Main Squeeze...
sos-hoe1.jpg, image/jpeg, 594x366

Canat you are the only one that understands what you are talking about and how you came to such erroneous and asinine conclusions. My guess is that you are actually one of the founders of the Antis; only they are as stupid as you.

So who are you really? Simcox, Turner, Gilchrist, probably Coe – that would explain why you suffer from a penis envy.
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Change from SOS

by V Saturday, Jun. 10, 2006 at 12:13 PM

from Chelene the psycobitch Nightgale: Attention Everyone!! After a meeting with the Los Angeles Police today, major change to Saturday June 17th!!!

Due to safety/logistics factors, the only procession will be motorcycles!!! If you own a motorcycle and want to ride downtown on Broadway, meet at the Dome Village - 847 Golden Avenue, LA. Bikers will start meeting at 9am! The procession from the dome , down Broadway, to City Hall will begin promptly at 10am!!

Frosty Wooldridge (http://www.frostywooldridge.com/) leads the Paul Revere Riders across America this summer to warn "that the enemy is coming!". Frosty, a leading advocate in halting the illegal invasion, began the Paul Revere Ride in Denver, Colorado on May 29th. The ride will end at Washington DC on August 12th. The Riders will be coming through Los Angeles on Saturday June 17th!!

The procession will end at City Hall (200 north Spring Street, LA 90012) and a rally will begin at 11am!! Speakers include Frosty Wooldridge, Ted Hayes, Jim Gilchrist, Cameron Bonner, Lupe Moreno, Frank George, Steve Eichler, Marvin Stewart, Raymond Herrera, Jesse Peterson, Barbara Coe, & me. (The speeches will be short and inspiring!!) We will end the rally with a march around City Hall!!

Please come support Frosty as he travels across the country to wake up America!!!!!!!

(And for those disappointed that we are not marching on foot down Broadway - do not fear!! Ted Hayes & I are planning a march down Hollywood Blvd. in July!!) More details coming soon!!

Best Wishes!

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Mexican supremacy

by UrbanRebel Saturday, Jun. 10, 2006 at 1:46 PM

As the videos of the previous march prove, its ALL ABOUT your Brown supremacist vision where "Europeans" (Whites) are forced out and replaced with so-called "indigenous" peoples. You are not even subtle about it. Your Brown Nazi allies in Mexica Movement have been extremely vocal about ridding the country of Whites for a long time. The videos of the march in late May are a stunning reminder of the hatred and resentment the "Latino" community (illegals mostly) have for White / Black America. So, all your allegations about racism coming from the secure borders crowd have proven to be just the other way around. The true racism and hatred lies within the ranks of the Mexican reconquistas who ought to just don their brown hoods and own up.
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Proof?

by Gunny Saturday, Jun. 10, 2006 at 5:34 PM

You want proof that Maldonado is Bababooey? Fine

Bababooey has used the phone number (626) 289-3573 as a contact number. He has also used a sgvneighbors@yahoo. email.

Google the phone number. Ask an anchor baby if you need help. At the very top of the list will be Alvaro Maldonados home address, name and phone number. Go ahead and try it. It'll be fun.

Ok? At any rate feel free to Go to Maldonados crappy little apartment on 1st street in Alhambra anytime and tell him how you feel about him trying to imtimidate others by suggesting to others that they certain people visits.
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chris spelman

by V Saturday, Jun. 10, 2006 at 6:46 PM

u are just preassuming gunny u make an ass of yourself. u dont have any proof chris.
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sigh

by Gunny Saturday, Jun. 10, 2006 at 7:22 PM

Ok V What exactly is it we're talking about? What is it I don't have any proof of?. Why I care. I have no idea
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maldonado

by Pete Nice Saturday, Jun. 10, 2006 at 7:27 PM

I can be certain that he has no idea that this thread exists...
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more on maldonado

by Pete Nice Saturday, Jun. 10, 2006 at 7:32 PM

He's posted the contact info on this site several times along with the sgvneighbors e-mail address.. and Gunny is a local who know where he lives..

This all proves no more than the fake Alhambra protest Gunny held.
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more again

by Pete Nice Saturday, Jun. 10, 2006 at 7:33 PM

You didn't prove shit dumbass...
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I\'ve got it

by Gunny Saturday, Jun. 10, 2006 at 7:48 PM

You can over to my house so you can see I'm not Spellman. Happy?
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Spellman

by V Saturday, Jun. 10, 2006 at 8:00 PM

oops, I have been spelling the last name wrong and how do u know how to spell it. it is you dummyass chris.

info: Chris Spellman fortress_usa@yahoo.com 626-289-3273 how did i got your info?
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too funny

by Gunny Sunday, Jun. 11, 2006 at 8:30 AM

How do I know how to spell "Spellman"? I guess because I didn't graduate from a sixth grade school in Tiajuana. Consonants, especially L in the middle of a word at the end of the first syllable are doubled. You might know that if you bothered to learn the language of the country you're living in a little better.

The truth is I know who Chris Spellman is. I'm not him but I'm sure he would be amused to know that you ithink of him so much.
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Hi there

by Chris Sunday, Jun. 11, 2006 at 9:45 AM

Too funny. I probably know you too Gunny. Another ex-Marine I take it?

Goons are amusing indeed. As if I am supposed to have some anxiety over them having an email address and wrong phone number.
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Liars

by Pachuco Sunday, Jun. 11, 2006 at 10:21 AM

Liars...
help-wanted.jpg, image/jpeg, 307x415

UrbanRabble wrote: "As the videos of the previous march prove, its ALL ABOUT your Brown supremacist vision where "Europeans" (Whites) are forced out and replaced with so-called "indigenous" peoples."

Liar, the video shows nothing of the sort. We are not against Europeans or Whites in general, just bigots and that includes bigots of all colors. Gilchrist, Hayes, Moreno, et al.

You are a liar and continue to distort the truth to suit your agenda of instigating a race war against the indigenous.

First, the SOS brings in Stormfront and the CCC, and now they plan to bring in bikers? What bikers, the Hells Angels?

Hey, I heard you dogs are going to protest the Undoc Farmworkers in Modesto.

While you're there why don't you prove that you are willing to do the jobs the world thinks you won't do.

Agribusiness is reporting labor shortages everywhere, so walk the walk and get a job picking grapes from sun-up to sun-down - prove that you have a pair.
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I guess you could

by BaBaBooey! Sunday, Jun. 11, 2006 at 11:12 AM

visit Maldonado's house if you're suicidal....
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BTW I've also posted contact info on CHELENE NIGHTINGALE

by BaBaBooey! Sunday, Jun. 11, 2006 at 11:16 AM

so, using Dummy's logic, I must be an endomorphic confederate rag wearing 3rd generation anchor baby, 4th generation W.O.P. (With Out Papers).

Oh yeah!
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Hi Chris

by Gunny Sunday, Jun. 11, 2006 at 11:45 AM

Hi Chris

Yeah we met once or twice. I am a retired Marine 69-93 Grey hair going white 6 foot 185. Noticable limp when walking.

So I would be suicidal to vist Mr. Maldonados crappy little apartment in Alhambra? It's several apartment blocks grouped together, usual sheet metal eaves over the windows, on a busy street just off Main, short walk to a Coldstone Ice cream place. Parkings a bitch and lots of evening foot traffic but that makes it easier to walk around without being noticed.

Thanks for the Heads up Mr. Maldonado, I'll keep clear. You go right on encouraging people to invade others privacy, I'm sure we'll still respect yours.

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I'm sure it won't take much

by BaBaBooey! Sunday, Jun. 11, 2006 at 12:01 PM

for Maldonado to dispatch a crippled old ex-marine. Considerably less effort than to fake a Nazi/SOS demo.
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and

by V Sunday, Jun. 11, 2006 at 12:59 PM

>>>>>>>>>You can over to my house so you can see I'm not Spellman.

And u call this a correct sentence. it does not make any sense.
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by Jammer CC Sunday, Jun. 11, 2006 at 1:30 PM

If anyone things the Hells Angels is farfetched, guess again. I actually met one in Lake Forest when some MM/Gilchrist people were there doing their thing. Shook his hand infact, when he thought I was one of the MM. When he found out otherwise, he got really profane. That was hilarious. Anyways, he said he was with the Lake Forest Hells Angels and was called over by one of the MM participants.

This isn't necessarily a connection between the whole Minuteman Project and the Hells Angles and I doubt there is a broad collaboration on that scale. This was in Lake Forest involving those that protest against day labor pick ups there. I don't recall the guy's name or the name he told me who called him over. But he did say he's with the Lake Forest Hells Angles and was there for the Minutemen that were there that day, by being called over by one of them.

Man I wish I got that on video.
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oh yeah

by Jammer CC Sunday, Jun. 11, 2006 at 1:31 PM

Naui was there that day. He can confirm. Ask him about the loud guy who then drove off in his truck. It's the day when someone planted nails under the tires of the MM.
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THE LAKE FOREST HELLS ANGELS????

by Roger Sunday, Jun. 11, 2006 at 1:54 PM

The Lake Forest Hells Angels??? Oh give me a break! "Lake Forest Hells Angels" yeah that would look really tough on a leather jacket. Cliff, somebody has been pissing on your shoes while telling you it's raining. woohoo!
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by Jammer CC Sunday, Jun. 11, 2006 at 2:01 PM

I'm not saying they they're tough of whatever. I'm saying that his guy came up and said he's with the Lake Forest Hells Angels and was called over by one of the MM. Naui was there and he also heard confirming words from one of the MM of the white nationalist in the Gilchrist campaign. It's really not that hard to seek these things.
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H.A.L.F-MC

by Roger Sunday, Jun. 11, 2006 at 2:53 PM

I get it. They said they were with the Lake Forest Hells Angels.

The Hells Angels are a little protective of who calls themselves Hells Angels. what with their copyright and all. You can go to their official website to verify that there is no Lake Forest Hells Angels.

To anticipate your next reply, there is an Orange County Hells Angels Capter. Its Chapter 81 and based in Garden Grove. It's not a franchise, They would NEVER say they were from the Orange county or Lake Forest. chapter.

So, either you've been lied to or we have been lied to. Not that it really matters. One lie is as good as another to some people.
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by Jammer CC Sunday, Jun. 11, 2006 at 4:00 PM

Yes that's what the guy said. Maybe he means he's a Hells Angel member in Lake Forest. Or maybe it was just talk. I don't know anything about Hells Angels chapter nor claimed to. Just explaining my encounter with the guy. I just read some speculation about this and wanted to include my encounter into the mix.
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"Maybe it was just talk"

by Roger Sunday, Jun. 11, 2006 at 4:36 PM

The Law Forest Hells Angels are really tough guys. Not as tough as the West Los Angeles Mongols or the Mid-Wilshire Vagos but pretty tough.

Somebodies pants are on fire.
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Good Role Models

by Pachuco Sunday, Jun. 11, 2006 at 5:45 PM

Oh yeah, this is what the Minute MenSOS need to give their cause credibility and gain the support of middle America.
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There they are!

by Roger Sunday, Jun. 11, 2006 at 6:02 PM

Yep 4 white guys with beards apparently having a bad day in Carolina Beach. That must be the dreaded Lake Forest hells Angels who acording to cliff/jammer actually spoke to a minuteman. they're white and have facial hair so that must be it.

Yes notice the name of the "jail" is on the bars, I guess so inmates won't forget they're in jail. Notice the bars too, they're set far enough to drive a harley electra glide through. Notice the smirking baseball hats wearing dudes. Bikers never wear baseball caps or maybe thats what they got arrested for.

Actually you dumb racist fuck, it's one of those facades at tourist areas where you get photographed :"in jail" as a souvenir. About as believable as anything you guys imagine

More open border shit.
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by Jammer CC Sunday, Jun. 11, 2006 at 8:15 PM

I get it, Roger is one the MM side. Why didn't I see that sooner. Not that I care much about anonymous posts. Why don't you tell us who you are. We know who I am. No matter what I show the MM/SOS, like I said, they'll come up with some way of denying it no matter what. I'm not sure what it will take. Maybe a skinhead with a nazi symbol on his chest looking like Edward Norton in American History X marching alongside Jim Gilchrist holding his hand. Or maybe they'll just find way to dismiss that.

Like I said, I don't know anything about Hells Angels chapters or whatever. I'm just saying what the guy said. Maybe a group of bikers in Lake Forest just decided to call themselves the "Lake Forest Hells Angels" but aren't an official chapter or whatever. Ever think of that? Or maybe you don't care, as long as they're legal according to immigration laws. I've seen that a LOT from the Minutemen and those involved I've come across. Including dimissing Stormfront/white supremacist types as long as they're American citizens.

Anyways, keep those smiles shining because my camcorder is rolling and your people are talking. Like I said, it's not that hard.
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My very last post on this thread.

by Roger Monday, Jun. 12, 2006 at 5:10 AM

No Cliff you dont get it. You are the classic racist. You look at a persons appearance to determine what kind of person he really is. And the easiest way to do that is to go by symbols and dress.

In your last post you used the term "skinhead" It's a racist term based on a persons appearance. Would you call a black man a velcro head ? Since your racism is directed to whites, you are happy. If a bunch of white guys got together and called themselves the United Race, you would wear that camera out filming them. Then you stand next to a group called " La Raza Unida" and everythings fine

You just don't get symbology either. I'm an engineer. The guy in the next office over has a swaztika over his desk. Which I admit raises eyebrows if you see the desk without the occupant. He's from Tibet and is very dark skinned. In Tibet that broken cross is associated with good luck and harmony. But you and all the other open border jackasses would just hop up and doen chanting nazi,nazi, nazi..

Like the above poster with the white guys getting photographed as some carnival. That guy is a racist just like you Cliff. White guys with beard=bikers=racists. Hells angels= racists. Every year the Hells Angels sponsors a blood drive for the American red Cross which generates more blood than any other event in America. But Cliff sees a hells angel and goes "Theres my proof, Gilchrist is talking to someone who looks like a hells angel who is therefore a racist so Gilchrist is therefore a racist.

I am so fed up with racists like you Cliff. I am sure that you find white racists with your little video camera as long as you keep filming only whites and people you want to "out" as racists.

In a very famous speech a fairly well known pastor looked foreward to a day when people were judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin. Cliff it's bigots like you who care nothing about the content of a persons character. bigots always go for the cheap shot No hair on a white guy=skinhead=racist Long hair and a beard on a guy on a motorcycle= racist.

And then there is label racism you apply by association. He posted something on Stormfront. Well what exactly did he post? You never mention and don't seem to care because people who post on that website are nazis. He talked to a racist so he's a racist. He stood next to a racist or they have a common goal on some issue so hes a racist.

I could go on but why. You will go right on making the same overworked observations like the racist "LAKE FOREST HELLS ANGELS" ( that still makes me laugh) that was called over by a minuteman. That is proof enough for you of racism among the minuteman.

I have no doubt you will make the same tired replyonce again, but one thing is very very clear. You just don't get it. Cliff May, you are a bigot.
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by Jammer CC Monday, Jun. 12, 2006 at 5:23 PM

Haha, keep on talking. Can I get you on film next time? You still haven't told us who you are. C'mon, show some guts. Make one more post. There are plenty of you who will say "this is my final word" or "i win!" and try to walk away.

QUOTE: "In your last post you used the term "skinhead" It's a racist term based on a persons appearance. Would you call a black man a velcro head ?"

I use the term "skinhead" carefully. Those Nazi skinheads at Laguna Beach last year were skinheads. Calling a skinhead a skinhead is hardly being racist and infact it's often a case where one is defying racism. And no I would not call a black man by the term you typed.

QUOTE: "Since your racism is directed to whites, you are happy. If a bunch of white guys got together and called themselves the United Race, you would wear that camera out filming them. Then you stand next to a group called " La Raza Unida" and everythings fine"

Since when did I have any racism directed towards whites or anyone? And since when do I stand with a group called "La Raza Unida"? Just because I happen to stand near them at a rally doesn't mean I'm a member. I understand the same argument in SOS members standing near Nazis in Laguna Beach and I'm sure most SOS members and Minutemen who rally with them aren't affiliated with them. And I never tried to force some understand that all or most of the SOS members are Nazis or affiliated with them. But there is a big sense of dimissing them just because they're technically American citizens.

QUOTE: "You just don't get symbology either. I'm an engineer. The guy in the next office over has a swaztika over his desk. Which I admit raises eyebrows if you see the desk without the occupant. He's from Tibet and is very dark skinned. In Tibet that broken cross is associated with good luck and harmony. But you and all the other open border jackasses would just hop up and doen chanting nazi,nazi, nazi.."

I'm sure those skinheads we've seen at Laguna were not Tibetian. And the SOS critics and opponents are not the one who made the swatztika associated with racism. The Nazis did that during their era in Germany and the SOS supporting skinheads last year continued to do that. You can thank them for that, not anyone here.

QUOTE: "Like the above poster with the white guys getting photographed as some carnival. That guy is a racist just like you Cliff. White guys with beard=bikers=racists. Hells angels= racists. Every year the Hells Angels sponsors a blood drive for the American red Cross which generates more blood than any other event in America. But Cliff sees a hells angel and goes "Theres my proof, Gilchrist is talking to someone who looks like a hells angel who is therefore a racist so Gilchrist is therefore a racist.

Looks like someone is jumping to conclusions. I never said the very nature of the Hells Angles is racism, nor will I deny it, but certainly won't say it because I hardly know that about the Hells Angels. And so what if the Hells Angels sponsors blood drives. You don't need bikers to do that. And thanks for misquoting me, or at least looking like it. I never said Gilchrist spoke to a Hells Angel biker. Infact I never said that Gilchrist was a racist. I just want him to answer some questions in the public and see if he'll reject white supremacy publicly.

QUOTE: "I am so fed up with racists like you Cliff. I am sure that you find white racists with your little video camera as long as you keep filming only whites and people you want to "out" as racists."

Ray Herrera once referred to certain people as "wetbacks." And this isn't me targeting whites. If you really think I hate whites, I'm white myself as well as asian. There's a very light skinned SOS member who I've seen using a professional video camera whose head is always perfectly shaved. But I have never asked him any questions or anything just because of that.

QUOTE: "In a very famous speech a fairly well known pastor looked foreward to a day when people were judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin. Cliff it's bigots like you who care nothing about the content of a persons character. bigots always go for the cheap shot No hair on a white guy=skinhead=racist Long hair and a beard on a guy on a motorcycle= racist.

It takes more than a shaved head, a beard, or a motorcycle to be racist. You don't even have to be white to be a racist. You think I don't know that. You wish.

As for some pastor who said whatever, sorry but I'm an atheist and won't be scared by any wannabe preacher.

QUOTE: "And then there is label racism you apply by association. He posted something on Stormfront. Well what exactly did he post? You never mention and don't seem to care because people who post on that website are nazis. He talked to a racist so he's a racist. He stood next to a racist or they have a common goal on some issue so hes a racist."

If you're a Minuteman and don't mind association with a known racist as long as he/she is an American citizen, wouldn't you find fault in that? Heck Jim Chase made it clear that he will not accept this and explained why. Members of the KKK flew in to participate in the border watch and Jim Chase said he told them to get back on the plane. But Gilchrist however.... well who knows. Not saying he's a racist, but he's got some questions to answer.

As for standing next to racists, people in SOS have gone further in interacting with them. Just look up Advocate's posts on Stormfront and look at the pictures of him holding an SOS banner with Don Silva. He stands right next to him at the first Mira Loma rally. It doesn't look like he was ask to leave or why he was there. Gilchrist said "we decided to let that go" when I told him about the guy passing out National Vanguard/Alliance literature in the Sacramento rally. He didn't say why, but he's more than welcome to explain in the public.

QUOTE: "I could go on but why. You will go right on making the same overworked observations like the racist "LAKE FOREST HELLS ANGELS" ( that still makes me laugh) that was called over by a minuteman. That is proof enough for you of racism among the minuteman."

I never said the Lake Forest Hells Angels are racists. I don't even know anything about them other than my encounter with that guy in Lake Forest. He told me he was called over when he thought I was actually one of them. I didn't even have to try for that one.

QUOTE: "I have no doubt you will make the same tired replyonce again, but one thing is very very clear. You just don't get it. Cliff May, you are a bigot."

I have no problem replying. I have nothing to hide. Can you and others say the same thing? You complain about your opponents calling you racists and other terms. Yet you're doing that to me and I'm not even a member of "La Raza" or whatever. I don't even support ANSWER for who they are. You complain about some kind of association game which yeah some of your opponents try to do, and some actually know some things. I know some things and I'm not playing a game.

If you want people to stop calling your folks racists just because of your views, how about this. Get your folks, all the MM, Gilchrist, Coe, SOS, whatever, to stop calling people "anti-American" or "traitors" just because they don't agree with the Minutemen or see things their way or want to do things their way. The MM/SOS people who do that are doing the same thing they complain about in some of their opponents.
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by Jammer CC Monday, Jun. 12, 2006 at 5:30 PM

I'm gonna clarify something I said. I said that Roger(whoever he really is) is calling me a racist even though I'm not a member of "La Raza." I wasn't saying or implying that "La Raza" or "La Raza Unida" or their members are racist. I'm not a member of those groups, don't have any interest in joining, can't think of a reason for identifying with them, and don't know much about them.
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You're still abigot, Cliff

by Roger Monday, Jun. 12, 2006 at 5:55 PM

That is lame even by your standards or lack of. Anyway I doubt La Raza would welcome a Korean Hybrid.

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by Jammer CC Monday, Jun. 12, 2006 at 7:55 PM

I knew you'd post again, and that you'd avoid my request to let us know who you are. And wow, I never thought of myself as a "hybrid." Is that a term you came up with?
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Bababooey is not Maldonado

by johnk Monday, Jun. 12, 2006 at 11:07 PM

I know Maldonado, and he doesn't spend time on this site except to read occasionally. You're only looking stupid by threatening him.

Also, the Hell's Angels have an OC branch: http://www.hellsangelsforever.com/

Someone said to call out the Mongols MC (who are mostly Mexican, not Mongolian). It would suck if these "movements" became inter-bike club wars. That would be a new low, to have a bunch of 50-year-old-adolescent-felons brawling.

Oh yeah, I don't think the HA are necessarily racist. I understand from what I've read, that they are willing to work with gangs of other races to regulate their drug, gun, and other underground businesses.

Just FYI - that blood drive doesn't make them "good guys". The KKK had a lot of charity operations running too.

And, Roger, you've made a couple lame arguments. First, the Buddhist swastika story is irrelevant, because nobody you're accusing ever did what you said. Second, you bring up "La Raza Unida". Did you mean La Raza Unida Party? Are they even around anymore? (Hey, maybe they are: http://members.tripod.com/~larazaunida/docs/info.htm )

You're doing exactly what you accuse Cliff of doing. The term "La Raza" is a symbol. It's been used for so long that it has a lot of different meanings all at once. Originally, it was concieved as a multi-race race (see Vasconcelos), kind of like the way America envisioned itself as a multi-ethnic society (see deToqueville).

I think Raza's not such a politically loaded term nowadays, because there are a lot more Central Americans here, and the movement needs to be inclusive. "Raza" has Mexican baggage, so the term has to be more inclusive, or used less. Also, there's a radio station calling itself Raza - http://www.979laraza.com/. I didn't see the image of Zapata on that website. I think they cater to the cowboy-hat-and-1-ton truck audience.

"Raza", however, to *some* folks, is a red-flag that signals Brown Supremacists. These are the same people who freak out about "Aztlan" and "MEChA". You're all freaking out about stuff that was "radical" in the 1960s. Wake up, Rip Van Winkle.

It's 2006. If they broke ground on a "Plaza de la Raza" today, it'd probably be a shopping plaza, and the "murals" would be printed on big plastic sheets, with smiling faces, announcing "Target Coming Soon." (Actually, there is a Mexico-themed shopping mall in Lynwood. It's a kind of "hyper Mexico", not unlike a Chinatown, Little Tokyo, intra-ethnic culture/tourism/shopping destination with a lot of architectural facades to present commerce as culture. http://www.plazamexico.com/menu/details.htm . It's located geographically, and conceptually, partway between Downtown Los Angeles, which was an actual Mexican city for a while, and Disneyland's Main Street USA.)

Roger has his symbols all mixed up, signifiying things they aren't signifying.
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Shopping for Nostalgia

by johnk Monday, Jun. 12, 2006 at 11:28 PM

I forgot to note, in the aside about shopping, that as this mall has come into being, the state of Mexico was eradicating the old Mexico, in Atenco, to bring in Wal-Mart.

http://www.narconews.com/Issue41/article1790.html

That's something to think about. You see the same thing happening at two other markets: Vallarta, and Mitsuwa Market. They both have buildings with the larger supermarket, and these buildings are "themed" to look, respectively, traditionally Mexican and traditionally Japanese. This nostalgic architecture is being erected as a kind of memorial, because the very same architecture is being destroyed "back home."

Kind of like City Walk. Once you have the fake city, you destroy the real city, and erect a new fake city in its place.
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Funny Irony about the Dome Village

by IMC Tuesday, Jun. 13, 2006 at 12:41 PM

Is that the IMC used to meet there.

Problem was, Hayes was siccing the cops on Food Not Bombs, so, IMC decided that it was a bad idea to keep meeting there.
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Spelling Spellman

by johnk Tuesday, Jun. 13, 2006 at 12:48 PM

You can spell Spellman as that, or Spelman, or with two "n"s. "Spielman" is a variation too. It's not an English name.
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HAMC on Baseball Caps

by Pachuco Tuesday, Jun. 13, 2006 at 12:59 PM

Rogerwrote: "...Yep 4 white guys with beards apparently having a bad day in Carolina Beach... Notice the smirking baseball hats wearing dudes. Bikers never wear baseball caps or maybe thats what they got arrested for. " The guys in the photo are from the Boangers MC.

Here are some HAMC bikers, maybe you should tell them the rules about bikers not wearing BB caps.


This is from the HAMC Rochester Store:

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by Gunny Standards

by V Wednesday, Jun. 14, 2006 at 2:54 AM

Gunny will say that Spelman College spelled Spellman wrong and they do not know the English language.
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Ready to "Rumble" ???

by BaBaBooey! Wednesday, Jun. 14, 2006 at 9:30 AM

from the Nazi-SOS website:

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Oldpreach
Jun 10 2006, 02:44 PM
Post #55


Patriot


Group: Moderators
Posts: 2911
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Member No.: 135




Hmm, interesting comments. Some very good thoughts about how this could be coming down from above the PD. Now, we KNOW for certain due to our contacts that in Glendale, this in fact did happen. It was the City Manager that told the Chief of Police to do what they did...or more like what they did NOT do.

It looks like there will finally be a brawl this time around, which is what they wanted in Glendale. I am sure that the 10 of us or so that do the sidewalk thing will be hauled off for sure...that is how they want it...let them start fighting, haul them all off, and charge everyone with the same blanket charge of battery. All this would be done to get us to go away, and stay away. Common everyday tactics here, nothing new. Soooo, bring your ID, credit card (with it least a 20k limit), (or have someone willing to lay down 20k, if you do not want to throw 2k away on a bond) and you will be just fine ! Oh, and maybe a band aid or with with some advil.

You reading this, indy media scum ? Hope you heed the advice and bring the above items, as the police will not care what side you are on, and black eyes hurt no matter if you are patroit or communist.
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Thump

by Pachuco Wednesday, Jun. 14, 2006 at 9:57 AM

A word to the wise . . .

The Minute MenSOS feel it is their obligation to create situations that they can use as proof that some people are sub-human. Heed my words; do not respond to the Minute MenSOS. Indeed, all counter-protestors should wear white and walk very slowly and quietly. Don’t forget to video tape the Antis.

Their call for violence should go unanswered. Their only strategy is to provoke and instigate negative outcomes because their logic has failed to convince reasonable people that the US is being invaded.

I read one of the posts at the SOS where a woman states that the wall should be built between Mexico because of the "19 Illegal Aliens" responsible for 9/11.

Everyone knows that those responsible for 9/11 had legal entry and came through Canada, but she is so full of hate that truth is no longer in her vocabulary. Hate like hers is dangerous because it takes immense hatred to be willing to die and kill for a cause that everyone views as fanatical. The Minute MenSOS beliefs are no different than Al Qaeda’s, they are becoming homegrown terrorists.

On a lighter side, FX is putting together a TV Reality Show, were Minute MenSOS will trade places with Undocs for 30 days. More news coming soon . . .
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Where do I start

by John Wednesday, Jun. 14, 2006 at 11:12 AM

The Hells Angels dont have "branches" they have chapters.

There is no chapter 81....that stands for H and A, the 8th and first letters in the alphabet and lastly the color picture doesnt have an HA in area. The first indicator would be the nice blue color and the fact that the patches dont say Hells Angels. the second picture looks real and see they do wear bb caps.......
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by Jammer CC Wednesday, Jun. 14, 2006 at 6:34 PM

The MM/SOS want to fancy themselves as law abiding, but they also laugh when their opponents get arrested. At Irvine, a guy called me a chicken or something(it's on a video one of them posted on the internet) for wanting to cross the street. Yet they wanted me to leave or be arrested. They wanted me to leave, threatening arrest. Yet I was made fun of for wanting to step away(not being included in their permit I guess). I wonder how much they would laugh if I did get arrested.

How about we make amnesty law, then we'll see if they'll be the law abiding citizens they fancy themselves as. I'm not advocating amnesty. But I'm saying if it was made law, I'm not so sure if they would be law abiding then.
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HAMCDALY

by Pachuco Friday, Jun. 16, 2006 at 12:06 PM

In teh 60s, those of us that frequented the Haight can remember that the HAMC were a part of the sceen. I remebers them at almost every Love In and happening. You'd always see them hanging with the Merry Pranksters.

The pic I posted earlier, with the bikers wearing different colors, is from the HAMC "Poke Her" run.

Here are some pics from the Daly City chapter:

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Take this pic with you

by BaBaBooey! Saturday, Jun. 17, 2006 at 11:57 AM

so that if/when the lame-stream media asks why you are protesting the Nazis/SOS/MM you can tell them you oppose slavery, which is what they support...

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/CustomerService_2006/DSC_0176.jpg
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here's another

by BaBaBooey! Saturday, Jun. 17, 2006 at 12:20 PM

show the dingbat newscrews the Nazis/SOS proudly wearing the confederate rag

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=5/14100402713.jpg&s=f5
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Also print this pic

by BaBaBooey! Saturday, Jun. 17, 2006 at 12:26 PM

and take it with you. show it to the news crews

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=5/14100402713.jpg&s=f5
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