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Let's call the Israel lobby THE ISRAEL LOBBY – by MOLLY IVINS

by MOLLY IVINS Friday, Apr. 28, 2006 at 9:12 PM

This is not about conspiracies or plots or fantasies or anti-Semitism -- it's about rational discussion of American interests. Alan Dershowitz, who seems to be easily upset, went totally ballistic...over the mild article ["The Israel Lobby"] by Mearsheimer and Walt, calling them "liars" and "bigots." And, in my case, being pro-Israel. I'm looking forward to hearing from all you [name-calling] *NUTJOBS* again.

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April 25, 2006



MOLLY IVINS

Austin, Texas



"Let's call the Israel lobby the Israel lobby"



One of the consistent deformities in American policy debate has been challenged by a couple of professors, and the reaction proves their point so neatly it's almost funny.

A working paper by John Mearsheimer, professor of political science at the University of Chicago, and Stephen Walt, professor of international affairs at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard, called "The Israel Lobby" was printed in the London Review of Books earlier this month. And all hell broke loose in the more excitable reaches of journalism and academe.

For having the sheer effrontery to point out the painfully obvious -- that there is an Israel lobby in the United States -- Mearsheimer and Walt have been accused of being anti-Semitic, nutty and guilty of "kooky academic work." Alan Dershowitz, who seems to be easily upset, went totally ballistic over the mild, academic, not to suggest pretty boring article by Mearsheimer and Walt, calling them "liars" and "bigots."

Of course there is an Israeli lobby in America -- its leading working group is the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). It calls itself "America's Pro-Israel Lobby," and it attempts to influence U.S. legislation and policy.

Several national Jewish organizations lobby from time to time. Big deal -- why is anyone pretending this non-news requires falling on the floor and howling? Because of this weird deformity of debate.

In the United States, we do not have full-throated, full-throttle debate about Israel. In Israel, they have it as matter of course, but the truth is that the accusation of anti-Semitism is far too often raised in this country against anyone who criticizes the government of Israel.

Being pro-Israel is no defense, as I long ago learned to my cost. Now I've gotten used to it. Jews who criticize Israel are charmingly labeled "self-hating Jews." As I have often pointed out, that must mean there are a lot of self-hating Israelis, because those folks raise hell over their own government's policies all the time.

I don't know that I've ever felt intimidated by the knee-jerk "you're anti-Semitic" charge leveled at anyone who criticizes Israel, but I do know I have certainly heard it often enough to become tired of it.

And I wonder if that doesn't produce the same result: giving up on the discussion.

It's the sheer disproportion, the vehemence of the attacks on anyone perceived as criticizing Israel that makes them so odious. Mearsheimer and Walt are both widely respected political scientists -- comparing their writing to "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" is just silly.

Several critics have pointed out some flaws in the Mearsheimer-Walt paper, including a too-broad use of the term "Israel lobby" -- those of us who are pro-Israel differ widely -- and having perhaps overemphasized the clout of the Israel lobby by ignoring the energy lobby.

It seems to me the root of the difficulty has been Israel's inability first to admit the Palestinians have been treated unfairly and, second, to figure out what to do about it. Now here goes a big fat generalization, but I think many Jews are so accustomed (by reality) to thinking of themselves as victims, it is especially difficult for them to admit they have victimized others.

But the Mearsheimer-Walt paper is not about the basic conflict, but its effect on American foreign policy, and it appears to me their arguments are unexceptional. Israel is the No. 1 recipient of American foreign aid, and it seems an easy case can be made that the United States has subjugated its own interests to those of Israel in the past.

Whether you agree or not, it is a discussion well worth having and one that should not be shut down before it can start by unfair accusations of "anti-Semitism." In a very equal sense, none of this is academic. The Israel lobby was overwhelmingly in favor of starting the war with Iraq and is now among the leading hawks on Iran.

To the extent that our interests do differ from those of Israel, the matter needs to be discussed calmly and fairly. This is not about conspiracies or plots or fantasies or anti-Semitism -- it's about rational discussion of American interests. And, in my case, being pro-Israel. I'm looking forward to hearing from all you nutjobs again.



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Nessie will say ANYTHING to advance his ideology Not a Dhimmi No More! Tuesday, May. 09, 2006 at 4:15 PM
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hey, nessie the Jew-hater, quit dodging gehrig Tuesday, May. 09, 2006 at 4:33 PM
Is everyone here living off of the government dole? How else? Tuesday, May. 09, 2006 at 4:41 PM
"spoiled, lazy fools that expect others to pay your way through life." heard it before Tuesday, May. 09, 2006 at 5:11 PM
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who X 'N' Victor Tuesday, May. 09, 2006 at 6:04 PM
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"You mean *this* debate coach?" there they go again Tuesday, May. 09, 2006 at 6:05 PM
"These are fundamentally dishonest people" why do they lie? Tuesday, May. 09, 2006 at 6:08 PM
"by there he goes again by Monday, May. 08, 2006 at 2:05 PM" there he goes again Tuesday, May. 09, 2006 at 6:13 PM
No right to national self determination Not a Dhimmi No More! Tuesday, May. 09, 2006 at 6:57 PM
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Nessie wins!!! By default. Tuesday, May. 09, 2006 at 11:36 PM
Not a winner different time zone Tuesday, May. 09, 2006 at 11:51 PM
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not that you'll ever truthfully respond, but... charismatic megafauna Wednesday, May. 10, 2006 at 6:15 AM
And speaking of dead horses staying focused Wednesday, May. 10, 2006 at 7:29 AM
To Nessie GBS Wednesday, May. 10, 2006 at 11:16 AM
staying focused on nessie's Jew-hating rhetoric gehrig Wednesday, May. 10, 2006 at 11:18 AM
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"by bunk logic Tuesday, May. 09, 2006 at 8:17 AM " there they go again Wednesday, May. 10, 2006 at 12:38 PM
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"by typical Zionist trick Tuesday, May. 09, 2006 at 8:40 AM " there he goes again Wednesday, May. 10, 2006 at 12:44 PM
"by staying focused Tuesday, May. 09, 2006 at 3:29 AM " and another one Wednesday, May. 10, 2006 at 12:44 PM
"by staying focused Monday, May. 08, 2006 at 11:08 PM " no, this one Wednesday, May. 10, 2006 at 12:47 PM
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"here really was no question to respond to" another Zionist lie Wednesday, May. 10, 2006 at 4:31 PM
ha! gehrig Wednesday, May. 10, 2006 at 4:35 PM
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nessie: "pleeeeeze let me change the subject pleeeeeze" gehrig Wednesday, May. 10, 2006 at 5:04 PM
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The long term plan Tia Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 10:59 AM
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Bullsh*t autoblocked @Indybay Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 11:43 AM
if they do it too.... Tia Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 12:07 PM
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racist? bullshit gehrig Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 1:01 PM
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another Nessie lie Tia Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 3:52 PM
Zionists, Neocons and AIPAC One and One is Two Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 4:01 PM
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Retort to "yeesh" autoblocked @Indybay Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 4:20 PM
"gleefully ignored" much ado about... Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 5:40 PM
just to be sure, I reviewed the entire thread here for "mind on autopilot" Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 6:28 PM
It's dealt with pretty much ad nauseum autoblocked @Indybay Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 6:31 PM
just to be sure, I reviewed the entire thread here as many "distractions" from anti-Zi Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 8:21 PM
the "yellow star" crap gehrig Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 8:43 PM
Back to the topic. more Zionist b*llshit Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 8:54 PM
Another Open Racist Self Exposed Another Open Racist Self Exposed Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 9:26 PM
eeeyup autoblocked @Indybay Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 9:37 PM
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That is the topic Not a Dhimmi No More! Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 11:01 PM
No it's not. another Zionist lie Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 11:19 PM
It is. another anti-Zionist lie Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 11:54 PM
abolish all lobbies reader Thursday, May. 11, 2006 at 11:59 PM
now you can see how nessie killed SF-IMC gehrig Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 12:01 AM
There they go again typical Zionist bullsh*t Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 2:40 AM
"typical Zionist bullsh*t" There he goes again Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 3:08 AM
Sure about this? I'm not Tia Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 11:40 AM
great idea how about Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 12:54 PM
questions gehrig Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 1:10 PM
This Israeli lobby is not special. how about Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 1:21 PM
Only the "JEW Lobby" no other lobbies count Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 1:53 PM
repost for distractions how about Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 2:03 PM
calling a spade a spade gehrig Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 2:14 PM
differences how about Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 2:24 PM
case in point gehrig Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 2:34 PM
The Israel Lobby and the Left: Uneasy Questions repost Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 2:55 PM
Grasping at straws Not a Dhimmi No More! Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 3:09 PM
old hat gehrig Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 3:12 PM
zunes at Marin CC last month reiterated these sentiments Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 3:15 PM
Thank you Gerhig Not a Dhimmi No More! Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 3:17 PM
82% of All Attempts to Corrupt Humanity Originate From the Jews So, there! Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 7:30 PM
well gehrig Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 7:55 PM
"tired old Communist" bunk logic Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 8:46 PM
Negative signal to noise ratio blah blah blah Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 9:12 PM
Kisses to all you he-men of strong will. In awe. Saturday, May. 13, 2006 at 12:07 PM
remind me gehrig Saturday, May. 13, 2006 at 1:35 PM
"there are plenty of other threads" me Saturday, May. 13, 2006 at 4:27 PM
Let's call a nazi a nazi Israel-the new nazis Saturday, May. 13, 2006 at 7:55 PM
response to antisemites gehrig Sunday, May. 14, 2006 at 12:03 AM
Ole! Shime`on ben Kosiba Sunday, May. 14, 2006 at 12:32 AM
This is Zionism. This is Zionism. Sunday, May. 14, 2006 at 12:56 AM
THIS IS ZIONISM-THE NEW NAZISM Truthteller Sunday, May. 14, 2006 at 3:00 AM
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A SLINGSHOT FOR BECKY Right to the head Sunday, May. 14, 2006 at 4:08 PM
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Communism excludes lobbying altogether? autoblocked @Indybay Sunday, May. 14, 2006 at 7:41 PM
=rappings of democratic life- Sheepdog Sunday, May. 14, 2006 at 9:41 PM
If the Zionist Lobby is OK, a racist is a racist is a racist Sunday, May. 14, 2006 at 9:50 PM
Why not a Nazi lobby? Becky Johnson Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 3:07 AM
Project Mockingbecky Sheepdog Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 5:42 AM
Sheepdog must have been court martiled Truth Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 11:30 AM
Ivins Doesn't Hate Jew, She Just Hates Jews Truth Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 11:35 AM
Steve Argue at it again Truth Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 11:44 AM
Definitely NOT the same!! Becky Johnson Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 11:51 AM
Should this be reported to law enforcement? Bill Levinson Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 12:49 PM
This is Islamofascism Bill Levinson Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 12:56 PM
Project Mockingbecky Sheepdog Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 12:59 PM
The Israel Lobby Truth Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 1:01 PM
JUSTICE FOR PALESTINE END ZIO-NAZI RULE!!!! Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 1:35 PM
Photo of Becky Johnson HUFF Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 1:52 PM
Project Mockingbecky Sheepdog Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 2:12 PM
Bill...Levingston Sheepdog Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 7:56 PM
What a sagely rebuke... (NOT!) autoblocked @Indybay Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 8:11 PM
ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL "ZIONISTS" autoblocked @Indybay Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 8:19 PM
such geniuses gehrig Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 9:25 PM
to autoliar@LA Sheepdog Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 9:34 PM
To Sheepdog Bill Levinson Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 9:40 PM
Zardoz Sheepdog Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 10:03 PM
Bill Levinson is a genuine bitch One who reads complexes Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 10:03 PM
To uebermensch Shit Dog autoblocked @Indybay Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 10:03 PM
ZIONISM IS RACISM Not a nazi Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 10:03 PM
Shabot Shalom Chaverm! SchtarkravingYid Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 1:05 AM
Taking out the trash Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 3:36 AM
nessie word Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 9:41 AM
Neocons, Zionists, Right wing Nuts Pathology of zionists Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 10:38 AM
no surprise there gehrig Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 10:42 AM
Shabot Shalom Chaverm! SchtarkravingYid Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 11:23 AM
there you have it gehrig Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 11:55 AM
yellow stars typical Zionist trick Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 12:50 PM
MORE ON GEHRIG THE CLOWN ZIONSIT TROLL Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 12:57 PM
translation from the nessie-ese gehrig Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 1:06 PM
"Odds are, they [yellow stars] were posted by a Zionist." TruthTeller Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 1:08 PM
"by TruthTeller Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 9:08 AM " there they go again Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 1:26 PM
"These people just *love* to sign other people's names to their handywork." debate coach Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 1:33 PM
"by debate coach Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 9:33 AM " there they go again Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 1:37 PM
"by there they go again Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 9:37 AM " debate coach Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 1:47 PM
"by debate coach Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 9:47 AM " just wondering Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 2:07 PM
THE REAL DISEASE: ISRAELI TERROR/SUPPORTED BY THE U.S. Bill Levinson Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 2:22 PM
"by just wondering Monday, May. 15, 2006 at 10:07 AM " there he goes again Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 2:27 PM
Spitting on cheeze TruthTeller Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 2:36 PM
I find the best way to avoid supporting Israel is TruthTeller Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 2:41 PM
Spitting on gehrig TruthTeller Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 2:47 PM
Here's what I really mean Toady Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 3:08 PM
Boycott Terror TruthTeller Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 3:13 PM
Schtarker Yid Toady the Editor Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 3:20 PM
Here's some truth about a Zionist freak SchtarkravingYid Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 3:30 PM
SchtarkerYid Toady, you are an idiot Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 3:35 PM
Yid, purveyor of threats, here's a pic of his hat Her's Yid's favorite beanie Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 3:39 PM
I'll level with y'all TruthTeller Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 3:41 PM
Trying your hand in buffoonery? autoblocked @Indybay Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 4:07 PM
he's melting, he's melting gehrig Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 4:11 PM
Where's TW? autoblocked @Indybay Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 4:26 PM
Are you tired of seeing any discussion of the Israel Lobby smothered pointer Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 4:27 PM
Boycott Palestinian terror Bill Levinson Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 4:29 PM
Apparently few give a crap autoblocked @Indybay Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 4:34 PM
BOYCOTT SETTLER VIOLENCE BOYCOTT BILL LEVINSON, ZIONIST SHILL Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 4:35 PM
Some "progressive" autoblocked @Indybay Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 4:40 PM
WHY IS TRUTH SO PAINFUL FOR ZIONISTS? DENIAL IS THE SPECIALTY Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 4:43 PM
SchtarkerYid Psycho-Sexual analysis Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 5:22 PM
WHY DO ANGRY ZIONIST COWARDS HAVE SMALL PENISES? MAYBE THAT'S THE WRONG QUESTION Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 5:25 PM
SchtarkerYid Thanks for another example Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 5:29 PM
LOOKS LIKE YID AND AUTOBLOCKED HAD SOME FEELINGS!!!! HOT UNDER THE COLLAR! Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 5:36 PM
Educated guess autoblocked @Indybay Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 5:37 PM
Whoa, I wanna keep my head from being laughed off!! autoblocked @Indybay Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 5:45 PM
hahahahahahahahahahhaahahah!! Thanks for proving me right!!!! HIT A NERVE! Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 5:51 PM
HEAD FROM BEING LAUGHED OFF--THAT SHOULDN'T BE HARD!!! IT'S SOO SMALL!! HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 5:55 PM
so predictable another Zionist lie Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 8:51 PM
nessie as Charles Kinbote gehrig Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 9:21 PM
gehrig is a riot--obsessed w/ chasing nessie from thread to thread hilarious Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 9:25 PM
I'll let gehrig the little troll slide--he's having a meltdown today Trolling is hard work Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 9:39 PM
wow gehrig Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 10:17 PM
earth to nessie gehrig Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 10:42 PM
No, I haven't. he's dreaming Tuesday, May. 16, 2006 at 10:52 PM
hery gehrig? Did you see your praise on LGF site? I think that nicely sums you up An irrelevant troll Wednesday, May. 17, 2006 at 12:52 AM
Toady the ineffectual jerkoff autoblocked @Indybay Wednesday, May. 17, 2006 at 8:32 AM
nope gehrig Wednesday, May. 17, 2006 at 10:52 AM
Still Waiting on gehrig the little troll to explain his "bitching rights" gehrig logic=bunk logic Wednesday, May. 17, 2006 at 11:02 AM
post the URL gehrig Wednesday, May. 17, 2006 at 11:39 AM
Here's gehrig's quote after being confronted w/ his trolling of IMC's nationwide Read for yourself Wednesday, May. 17, 2006 at 11:52 AM
* rolling eyes * gehrig Wednesday, May. 17, 2006 at 1:16 PM
US and Israel continue drive to overthrow Hamas-led government repost Wednesday, May. 17, 2006 at 1:41 PM
gehrig--an irrelevant little angry toll Still failed to answer-Telling Wednesday, May. 17, 2006 at 4:22 PM
you're getting stupider by the minute gehrig Wednesday, May. 17, 2006 at 8:11 PM
Gehrig?? Can you actually answer the question, or is it too difficult for you??? Too much for little troll Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 10:32 AM
give it up, troll gehrig Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 11:02 AM
Ha! Gehrig the little troll CAN't answer the question then you'd have to admit the lunacy Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 11:13 AM
"Here's a sample of gehrigs cross country trolling " pointer Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 11:23 AM
Your dull repetition ain't working autoblocked @Indybay Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 11:25 AM
Here's a picture of a zionist keyboard warrior Here's autoblocked@indybay Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 11:31 AM
The eridite wisdom of Toady Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 11:40 AM
Whatever else can be said about him... autoblocked @Indybay Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 11:42 AM
try this gehrig Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 11:43 AM
"If you want a lovely look at Toady's handiwork" typical Zionist trick Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 12:05 PM
"don't try to do it where the Zionists can smother the thread with distractions." heard it before Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 12:15 PM
the question gehrig Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 12:25 PM
"antisemitism" off topic Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 12:43 PM
Gehrig still avoids the question about his Corss Country trolling Taking the basket case to task Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 12:45 PM
as usual, nessie "misses" the point gehrig Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 12:47 PM
"I call you an antisemite because you're an antisemite" bunk logic Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 1:07 PM
"I call you an antisemite because you're an antisemite" bunk logic Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 1:25 PM
Sorry for the double post glitch Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 2:06 PM
Nessie the Anti-Semite Not a Dhimmi No More! Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 2:20 PM
Telling the truth Not a Dhimmi No More! Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 2:28 PM
"by Not a Dhimmi No More! Wednesday, May. 17, 2006 at 10:28 AM " typical Zionist trick Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 2:43 PM
More Palestinian Propaganda from "Palestine remembered" Not a Dhimmi No More! Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 2:50 PM
More on the Israel Lobby in the U.S. Not a Dhimmi No More! Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 5:33 PM
straw men bunk logic Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 6:12 PM
more Indymedia antisemitism gehrig Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 6:13 PM
"gehrig, who conveniently dodges" heard it before Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 6:50 PM
Peaceful Palestinian Protesters live ammo and clubs! Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 7:10 PM
once again, simple logic still confuses nessie gehrig Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 8:01 PM
"As long as nessie gets to make the definition, that is." heard it before Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 8:14 PM
answer the question gehrig Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 8:19 PM
Zionism as a Racist Ideology Tia Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 8:21 PM
typical gehrig Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 8:35 PM
An oldie but goodie Not a Dhimmi No more! Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 8:38 PM
grow up charismatic megafauna Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 8:38 PM
I wish that the zionists would stop the forgeries Tia Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 8:43 PM
the horror! charismatic megafauna Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 9:28 PM
the horror! charismatic megafauna Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 9:38 PM
Inhospitable Forum Becky Johnson Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 10:12 PM
"ruin this site too" throw the racists out Thursday, May. 18, 2006 at 11:39 PM
they couldn't make it simpler gehrig Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 12:34 AM
"Unsubstantiated allegation" debate coach Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 4:46 AM
Yeah. How can gehrig the troll be such a hypocrit autoblocked@indybay Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 12:04 PM
I've just forged 'autoblocked' again Indybay editor Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 12:12 PM
Great article from Israeli activist! Not a Dhimmi No More! Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 4:26 PM
This missive is tripe Indybay editor Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 4:32 PM
The Lobby Critical Thinker Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 4:39 PM
Wow! This guy lives in Jeruselum. Showing courage autoblocked@indybay Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 4:56 PM
I know my adversaries won't refer Indybay editor Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 5:02 PM
More on the lobby Not a Dhimmi No More! Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 5:06 PM
Not a Dhimmi no more Sabeel a front organization Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 5:08 PM
Not a Dhimmi no More More on the zionist lobby Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 5:58 PM
SchtarkerYid No Hebrew, Toady? Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 6:00 PM
Greasy Israeli spies Sefarad Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 6:21 PM
Greasy Charlie now forges Sefarad autoblocked @Indybay Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 6:35 PM
The above poster is lying Sefarad Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 6:42 PM
You're pathologically funny autoblocked @Indybay Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 6:51 PM
That was a zioinist forger Sefared Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 7:24 PM
SchtarkerYid Toady, you are just pitiful Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 9:34 PM
SchtarkerYid That Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 10:39 PM
What does this tell us? live and learn Saturday, May. 20, 2006 at 3:00 AM
"live and learn " heard it before Saturday, May. 20, 2006 at 9:30 AM
"by heard it before Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 5:30 AM " there they go again Saturday, May. 20, 2006 at 1:14 PM
"by there they go again Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 9:14 AM" heard it before Saturday, May. 20, 2006 at 1:27 PM
"by heard it before Friday, May. 19, 2006 at 9:27 AM" It's a trick. Don't fall for it. Saturday, May. 20, 2006 at 2:22 PM
Zioshmazis under my bed Concerned anti-zionist Monday, May. 29, 2006 at 8:03 PM
another Zionist lie there they go again Tuesday, May. 30, 2006 at 3:55 AM
Another anti-Zionist lie there he goes again Tuesday, May. 30, 2006 at 7:50 AM
All nazis are Anti-Zionists antifa Tuesday, May. 30, 2006 at 9:16 AM
Hi antifa Critical Thinker Tuesday, May. 30, 2006 at 9:27 AM
All nazis are Anti-Zionists antifa Tuesday, May. 30, 2006 at 11:45 AM
Molly rules quote of the day Tuesday, May. 30, 2006 at 1:36 PM
so yid... Sheepdog Friday, Jun. 02, 2006 at 1:37 PM
SchtarkerYid Yo Pin Headed Sheepdog! Friday, Jun. 02, 2006 at 2:07 PM
Blaime the Jews !! antifascist Wednesday, Jul. 05, 2006 at 7:42 AM
You anti-Jewish Truth Warping filth Scapegoated Jew Wednesday, Jul. 05, 2006 at 8:13 PM
Racist-antizionists post spam while blaiming Jews for that Ahmad Monday, Jul. 10, 2006 at 1:34 PM
What does it all mean? Matityahu Monday, Jul. 10, 2006 at 2:05 PM
too bad Ahmad Monday, Jul. 10, 2006 at 4:50 PM
You're pro-Israel? Really? Scapegoated Jew Monday, Jul. 10, 2006 at 6:27 PM
"M & W article has been debunked here by a tour de force counter article" TW Monday, Jul. 10, 2006 at 9:49 PM
BAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! I knew it! TW Tuesday, Jul. 11, 2006 at 3:57 AM
DUNKARDS WANT A STATE IN THE HOLLY LAND Second Starman Wednesday, Jul. 18, 2007 at 12:22 AM
DUNKARDS WANT A STATE IN THE HOLLY LAND Second Starman Wednesday, Jul. 18, 2007 at 12:23 AM
zionism is racism zionism is racism Wednesday, Oct. 14, 2009 at 3:58 AM
Jewish political expression Jewish political expression Wednesday, Oct. 14, 2009 at 6:39 PM

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