Three years after the death of Rachel Corrie, this writer reiterates two questions he initially posed to Captain James Yee at an event dedicated to Rachel Corrie and attended by Cindy and Craig Corrie:

Question 1

“After the Vietnam War, many of us absorbed Buddhist ideas ... Where might we find comparable beginnings of a Christian-Muslim dialog?”

Question 2

“Many of us are intrigued by Sufism and feel it may represent a mystic core of Islam...

Honoring Rachel Corrie Three Years Later: Two Questions for Peace Activists



Rachel Corrie died three years ago on March 16 2003. Some thoughts for peacemakers.
Honoring Rachel Corrie Three Years Later: Two Questions for the Peace Movement

by Jeremy Ellington





Three years after Rachel Corrie's death, the horrors of war have increased exponentially with no end in sight.

Iraq totters on the brink of civil war.

We've seen more insane executions of humanitarian aid workers and peacemakers.

Iran seems to be on the brink of developing the atom bomb. Pakistan and India and China are in a three way arms race.

Dutch film maker Theo Van Gogh was executed for criticizing Islam. Muslims were killed in riots over nothing more than an ignorant cartoon in a tiny newspaper that no oner ever heard of. A Jew,.brutally tortured in France in an act of collective revenge hot on the heels of nation wide riots .

It seems that if Rachel is looking down on all of this she might say: what did I die for? For this? Was anyone paying attention?

And I would add: is anyone paying attention to the peacemakers? Is anyone paying attention to the words of Martin Luther King, Mohandas Ghandi, Jesus, Mohammed, Gibran, Rumi? We stopped the blood shed in Vietnam. Where are the Daniel Ellsbergs and the Benjamin Spocks and the David Dellingers this time around? We had a Buddhist-Christian dialogue come out of our Vietnam experience. I don't see that happening now.

Overcoming Mistrust, Fear and Hatred

When Rachel Corrie first went to Palestine with the International Solidarity Movement, there was resistance from the locals, and it was not entirely noble – mistrust is never pretty. But she overcame that resistance with the intensity of her conviction for justice. And if much of Islamic mistrust of peace activists is less than high minded, that does not mean that high minded efforts to make peace will inevitably fail.

Albert Einstein, in his letter to Mohandas Ghandi, correctly pointed out that the Mohatma established the effectiveness of non violence as a tool for political struggle even in a context wherein other people continue to behave violently. And so it is that we continue to remember Rachel Corrie despite the fact that she was not perfect and that she did make some embarrassing political mistakes in the fire her youth.

James Yee, Fighter for Peace and Justice

Near Olympia, Washington I attended an event which was dedicated to Rachel and which her parents attended. I addressed two important questions to the guest of honor James Yee and I would like to re-address them to the peace community at large. Ironically, I floated the first draft of this article on Monday, and last night I heard that tCaptain Yee made national news. lamenting the failure of the U.S. Government to work with Muslims to address conflict resolution between America and the Islamic world. I wholeheartedly concur with him.

Former U.S. Army Captain James Yusef Yee was deployed at Guantanamo in the capacity of chaplain to the detainees and in that capacity he innocently, if naively, notified family members of the prisoners of the welfare of their captive sons and brothers. For this act of charity he spent seven months under courts martial, seventy six days of it in solitary confinement and shackled, to boot. This kind of treatment of a U.S. Citizen and an officer in the U.S. Army is unconscionable, and to date the government has not made amends for this misdeed although it did drop all charges a year ago today.

The Bill of Rights Defense Committee sponsored the event, and presented Yee with a plank from Tacoma, Washington's old Japanese Language School. During World War II they were closed down when students and their parents were subject to the internment which has rankled so many commentators. Many believe that Captain Yee was victimized by “the same kind of race based hysteria triggered by a national crisis.”

When the question and answer time came, one person after another assailed Captain Yee with pointed barbs about the violence and misogyny of Islam. This was quite puzzling to me, as these were people I thought of as peace activists, yet they seemed to be stereotyping Muslims.





When my turn came, I posed two questions. I think they are worth repeating, as they go to heart of establishing a sustainable foundation not just for ending war but moving forward on a planet where Muslims and non-Muslims can co-exist. Here the questions are, verbatim:

Question 1

“After the Vietnam War, many of us absorbed Buddhist ideas and some of us even adopted Buddhism as our own personal philosophies. An ongoing Christian – Buddhist dialog has been established. Where might we find comparable beginnings of a Christian-Muslim dialog?”

Question 2

“Many of us are intrigued by Sufism and feel it may represent a mystic core of Islam which dovetails with Christian contemplative traditions and the experiences shared by writers such as Thomas Merton. Can you tell us something of the role and status of Sufism is Islam today, and how it might relate to peacemaking and conflict resolution?”













I didn't make any New Year's resolutions this January, but now, as the anniversary of Rachel's sacrifice and the Iraq war approaches, I resolved to seek answers to those two questions which I put to Yee. And I have found confirmation of my faith that the elaboration of the answers – delving into Sufism – would in and of itself create tangible peace. Not only that, but, due to the history of Sufism asserting itself against often hostile caliphs, I have found that tradition has much also to say regarding the question of freedom of speech and freedom of religion. But the articulation of that answer is a project better left to another day, and, if the reader hungers for it, they will find in its denoument resolution of many things.


This work licensed under a Creative Commons license when reposting for noncommericial use please attribute to Jeremy Ellington/Indymedia
jeremyellington_criticatlarge@yahoo.com

Smash ISM terrorhoids!

Only a Zionist would think that the ISM are terrorists.

As they say in the Bullfighting Ring: "Sometimes, the Bull wins"

When the bull wins, with the odds heavily against him, the bullfighter gets what was coming to him. When a bulldozer crushes a human being it is hardly a case of the innocent underdog winning. And the analogy was not funny. The murderer in this case was the guy driving the dozer and the thugs who gave him his orders.

Meyer writes: The murderer in this case was the guy driving the dozer and the thugs who gave him his orders.

BECKY: First, Rachel Corrie was not murdered. The bulldozer driver, a Russian immigrant named "Doobie", claimed that he didn't see her before his bulldozer hit her.

The "thugs" who gave him his orders were the IDF. His orders were to level a field that was providing hiding places for snipers and to destroy entrances to tunnels which were traversing the region and providing smuggling routes for guns, explosives, and terrorists crossing the Egyptian border. There was no order to run Rachel Corrie over.

Rachel Corrie willingly put herself into harms way when she knelt in the path of a bulldozer. In this way, she contributed to the circumstances of her own death.

No house was destroyed that day. No house was slated to be destroyed that day. In fact, the Nasrallah family home she ostensibly gave her life defending, was not destroyed until 10 months later and AFTER the Nasrallah family had already moved out. Nor does the IDF destroy houses with people still in them!!

In all it was a tragic loss of life serving no purpose whatsoever.

The only tunnels that were ever found were in your head caused by Zionist worms of racism.
Knelt.
You mean crushed as she Stood.
Your kind make me puke.

BBC photo journal
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/middle_east/04/gazas_tunnels/html/12.stm

Wikipedia entry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smuggling_tunnels

Zionist webpage
http://www.zreportage.com/israel/israelTEXT.html

World Net Daily
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38652

Israel News Agency
http://www.israelnewsagency.com/israelgaza.html

Right-wing Neocon site
http://www.weaponsurvey.com/tunnels.htm

Leftist anti-Israel human rights watch
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2004/rafah1004/6.htm

Israeli govt. site
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-+Obstacle+to+Peace/Terror+Groups/Weapon+Smuggling+Tunnels+in+Rafah+May+2004.htm

Right-wing conservative American newspaper
http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20050412-093351-9668r.htm

Rachel died to stop the house of the local doctor from being crushed.
There were no tunnels. there asshole.

The real tunnels are cargo ships carrying missles, tanks, warplanes, cannon, bulldozers, armored personnel carriers, spare parts for military equipment, and every imaginable kind of military gear from the United States to Israel, where much of it will be used against Palestinians. Most of it will be paid for by US taxpayers. Plenty of money to support Israeli terrorism, little money to pay for prescription medications for the elderly.

Becky provides actual photos (via the links she listed) and you Communist dunder heads STILL don't see them.

Is there a doctor in the house?

This post is not about whether or not there are tunnels. It is about remembering this woman's sacrifice for her convictions, regardless of whether or not she erred.

What do you think of the idea of dialogue between Islam and the West.

What do you think of Sufiism?

In part this is about the tunnels that weren't there.
And the smear.

The links provided never linked any discovered tunnels near the house Rachel died in front of, standing in full sight of the driver, despite the attempt to exploit camera angles, disregarding the megaphone she was using and the frantic warnings the other teams members were making when the dozer caught her in the debris it was pushing.
These Zionist links...What a low and slimy inference without any independent verification of having anything to do with the use of the dozer.
None of them show any evidence of having been discovered near this spot.

This just shows the magnitude of the sickeningly low and repulsive lies of this evil and dangerous Israeli Zionist NAZI pathology.

In a sane world these pathologies would be shunned, separated and watched, least they endanger others.

SHEEPDOG WRITES "The links provided never linked any discovered tunnels near the house Rachel died in front of, standing in full sight of the driver, despite the attempt to exploit camera angles, disregarding the megaphone she was using and the frantic warnings the other teams members were making when the dozer caught her in the debris it was pushing."

BECKY: The links show that the IDF had REAL security business doing what it was doing, as the tunnels were an actual problem in the area. No one is saying the Nasrallah home was an entrance to a tunnel. But then the Nasrallah family home was not in danger that day. According to testimony by the bulldozer driver and his immediate supervisor, there was no order to demolish any homes that day, nor were any homes demolished that day.

Rachel Corrie THOUGHT the house was in danger when it was not. The bulldozer driver, a Russian Jew, didn't understand any English, nor could he hear the protesters over the sound of the machine. Rachel had no megaphone at the moment of her death, nor was she visible as she KNEELED in front of a blade that was 8 ft 10 inches tall.

MEYER LONDON WROTE: "Plenty of money to support Israeli terrorism, little money to pay for prescription medications for the elderly."

BECKY: USA foreign aid is a tiny portion of the US budget (less than 1% for ALL foreign aid). The quantity and quality of Israeli medical research benefits the health of millions of Americans (and everyone else on earth!). Terrorism is defined as violent attacks on civilians in order to affect a political gain. According to this definition, the Palestinian Kassem rockets lobbed regularly over the Gaza border, the suicide bombings of school buses and coffee houses, sniper attacks, and random stabbings of Jews certainly fit the definition of terrorism.

The IDF RESPONSE to an average of 21 attempted terror attacks a day are checkpoints, a permit system, a fence, and good intelligence all fall under the category of self defense or the defense of others---the only TRUE appropriate use of violence.

So Meyer, what did you think of the Palestinians when they burned down 26 synagogues in one day last September?
What did you think when the Palestinian woman who had been treated for burns at an Israeli hospital, returned to the SAME hospital wearing a suicide bomb belt?

Sirhan Sirhan, a Palestinian man, killed Bobby Kennedy because of his support for Israel. That is terrorism.

Rachel Corrie was defending terrorists.
Whether she believed it or not, she was defending the tunnels.
Pretending there were no tunnels, or that they were not being used by the terrorists, helps no one understand the situation.

The driver of the bulldozer believed that HE was saving lives---the lives of Jews who would be slaughtered by the bombs and guns being smuggled in those tunnels.

If Arafat had accepted the Barak/Clinton deal in 2000, Rachel Corrie would be alive today.

There were no tunnels when and where Rachel was killed.
Everything else you equivocate is more weasel lying scum
to justify with the usual squealing like a PIG caught under a
picket fence, the figleaf for racist murder.
The tunnels 'were in the area' is the same old same old.
" I know Ralph Shoneman"
Thanks for confirming your useless, hate filled life.

I expect the opposition to be at least able to arrive at some other method of justification for the naked Genocide that has been going on for 60+ years against a People you individuals must be in stark consternation of the basic question you always ask yourself, way down deep where you * can't * equivocate, " why the HELL are they still *here*?"
That, my little weasel, is and has been since the beginning, the real question. The level of violence and the overmatched arsenal sure would support the contention that this problem should have been taken care of long ago. You know, the Genocide. These natives must go.

I will answer this question for you, in my little personal way.
Power does not equal Strength.
Knowledge does not equal Wisdom.

And your many prepared lies, are weak and petty with, repetitious and predictable, satraps.
One knows the template of inferences misinformation and outright fraud before it is posted.

All the while, threatening the area with nuclear weapons and instigating a war with Iran and god knows who else.

Your kind make me want to puke.

In memory to Lawrence Teeter.

-Los Angeles County Coroner Thomas Noguchi proved that the bullets hit RFK
from behind him and at an upward angle. The first shot was the fatal one and
was fired at just three inches away from the back of his head. All witnesses confirm
that Sirhan was in front of Kennedy at all times, and was firing at a horizontal trajectory.
The witnesses claim Sirhan was approximately three feet in front of the Senator
at their nearest proximity.-


Read this link.
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/12/97015.php


Hmmmm.

SHEEPDOG WRITES: "There were no tunnels when and where Rachel was killed. "

BECKY: As I said earlier, the IDF was in the area flattening a field where snipers had found hiding places from which to fire on IDF soldiers. They were generally in the area to remove the tunnels. And they found plenty, too. I am unaware of any reports that the Nasrallah family home harbored any egress into a tunnel. But then the Nasrallah family home was not threatened that day.

In fact, NO HOME was destroyed that day. ALL ISM eyewitnesses confirm this.

In fact, the Nasrallah family home was not destroyed until TEN MONTHS LATER and AFTER the family had already moved out!

You claim I am lying, but I am not. If you have a specific claim that anything I have posted is untrue, please be specific in your charges, as well as have reputable sources for your alternate set of information. That is how debate works. You don't win by hurling the most vile insults at your opponent.

As to your falacious charge of genocide: there have been a few examples of genocide in the 20th and 21st century. Nazi Germany, Cambodia, East Timoor, Rwanda, and currently Sudan. There is no "Palestinian" genocide. The death toll is primarily male combatants and falls far below what you would expect to find in true genocide.

Furthermore, Israel continues to supply water, gas, electricity, and medicine to the PA despite the Hamas election. If the Israelis really wanted to genocide the Palestinians, don't you think they would cut off vital services?

Don't take MY word for it (lying Ziiiiioooonist that I am???)
read if for yourself:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1139395621515&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

YOU **CONCEILED** THE FACT THAT WHILE PRETENDING TO BE WORKING FOR THE HOMELESS -- WELL, THAT WAS YOUR ZIONIST PROPAGANDA AGENT **COVER** -- YOU WERE A POLITICAL PARTNER OF THE ULTRA-RIGHT-WING DEMAGOGUE LEE KAPLAN -- AND AT **LEAST** INDIRECTLY OF DAVID HOROWITZ.

I WON'T SHOW AMERICAN FRIENDS SERVICE COMMITTEE AND STREET SPIRIT EDITOR TERRY MESSMAN'S *PERSONAL* EMAIL TO ME (AS OPPOSED TO HIS PUBILC EMAIL), BUT TERRY SAID THAT HE WAS **HORRIFIED** TO FIND OUT ABOUT YOUR NEFARIOUS POLITICAL LIFE THAT YOU KEPT **SECRET** FROM HIM!!

TERRY EXPRESSED EVEN **STRONGER** THOUGHTS AGAINST YOU, PRIVATELY, THAN HE DID PUBLICLY!

--I.E., YOU WERE LIVING A ***LIE*** AROUND THE AMERICAN FRIENDS SERVICE COMMITTEE.


TERRY MESSMAN: "I only very recently became aware of Becky's positions on these issues, and as I have already said, I do not agree with her. So her essays on the Mideast will certainly not be published in Street Spirit. ...As I said, I don't agree with Becky on these issues, and I think you're right to say that most of the progressive left disagrees as well. ...I don't agree with them [BJ's Zionist views]. In fact, for my own peace of mind as editor, I wish she hadn't chosen to express herself in this way. I'd rather have Street Spirit writers who didn't fall into disfavor with large and important parts of the progressive left, the way Becky apparently has."

AFSC & STREET SPIRIT EDITOR TERRY MESSMAN RESPONDS TO JA RE BECKY JOHNSON OF SANTA CRUZ

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/150156_comment.php#150345

Yeah, and if only the French and Polish governments had not resisted the advance of German troops into their countries in 1939/1940 things would have been much more peaceful, so the main villeins were the Poles and French. The deal Arafat rejected would have set up Bantuland-like areas for the Palestinians on the West Bank and Gaza, separated from each other by illegal Israeli settlements and other Israeli territory. It would also have cut off access to Jerusalem, the heart of Palestinian national feeling. Arafat had to reject that deal if he was to retain any credibility among his people.

How many mosques were burned during the savage Israeli bombing of civilian areas of Beirut in 1982? And how many houses with people inside them? Of course bombing civilian neighborhoods that have no anti-aircraft defenses is not terrorism. It is fighting for freedom. Or is that fighting against religious fanaticism? Or something like that. Remember, every old person, child, dog and cat incinerated is one more step forward to the New World Order. One more note: the bombing (carried out on Ariel Sharon's orders) was so savage that even the semi-fascist Reagan Administration felt compelled to denounce it, if only for public relations reasons.

How many mosques were burned during the savage Israeli bombing of civilian areas of Beirut in 1982? And how many houses with people inside them? Of course bombing civilian neighborhoods that have no anti-aircraft defenses is not terrorism. It is fighting for freedom. Or is that fighting against religious fanaticism? Or something like that. Remember, every old person, child, dog and cat incinerated is one more step forward to the New World Order. One more note: the bombing (carried out on Ariel Sharon's orders) was so savage that even the semi-fascist Reagan Administration felt compelled to denounce it, if only for public relations reasons.

How many mosques were burned during the savage Israeli bombing of civilian areas of Beirut in 1982? And how many houses with people inside them? Of course bombing civilian neighborhoods that have no anti-aircraft defenses is not terrorism. It is fighting for freedom. Or is that fighting against religious fanaticism? Or something like that. Remember, every old person, child, dog and cat incinerated is one more step forward to the New World Order. One more note: the bombing (carried out on Ariel Sharon's orders) was so savage that even the semi-fascist Reagan Administration felt compelled to denounce it, if only for public relations reasons.

JA--if you will check out my articles under "Leftist Speak Out" at www.dafka.org you will see that the FIRST article I published there was in February of 2003. My FIRST article published by Street Spirit was in 1996.

So how do you explain my so-called "cover" as a homeless advocate? Are you saying I went into deep cover SEVEN YEARS before I started publishing articles on Israel? And if I am a spy for the Zionists, why would I BLOW MY COVER by repeatedly published articles defending Israel?

Your charges make no sense.

Terry Messman knew I was writing on the Israeli-Palestinian situation well before he got any e-mails from you. However, since I never submitted any of these articles to Street Spirit for publication, he probably didn't know about them at the time I wrote them.

It is not correct to say I was concealing this from Terry. You are trying to stir up trouble any way you can -- but its obvious you have crossed over into fabrication with your outrageous claims.

For the record, I do not work for the Israeli govt., David Horowitz, Front page mag, or any Zionist organization. I am a writer and journalist. I am an UNPAID VOLUNTEER with Dafka.I report on topics as I see them. I have a right to have opinions which differ from yours, JA. And I have just as much right to express them as anyone else.

I also have a right to work as a homeless advocate AND express my support for Israel, nor are these two viewpoints inconsistant.

Please STOP harassing my co-workers with your unsolicitied e-mail campaign of hate!!

How many mosques were burned during the savage Israeli bombing of civilian areas of Beirut in 1982? And how many houses with people inside them? Of course bombing civilian neighborhoods that have no anti-aircraft defenses is not terrorism. It is fighting for freedom. Or is that fighting against religious fanaticism? Or something like that. Remember, every old person, child, dog and cat incinerated is one more step forward to the New World Order. One more note: the bombing (carried out on Ariel Sharon's orders) was so savage that even the semi-fascist Reagan Administration felt compelled to denounce it, if only for public relations reasons.

Reply to Meyer London: You give Arafat a pass for rejecting the most generous peace offering made in 57 years.
You say its Okay for him to launch his intifada (war) instead of a peace agreement
You call 95% of the West Bank "bantustans" when in S. Africa 80% of the population was on 13% of the land---hardly equitable for this situation.
You excuse suicide bombers killing innocent civilians as "legitimate resistance"
You ignore the rights of gays, Christians, and Jews being curtailed in the PA
You pretend that the Palestinians DIDN'T burn down 26 synagogues in one day last September
You make accusation of genocide where there is none
You call disputed territories "occupied lands"
You call Jewish settlements "illegal" when they aren't
You squawk about Israel getting $3 billion a year in aid but are silent about Egypt getting $2 billion in aid from the same peace treaty
You don't EVER discuss honor killings of women in the PA
You protest a fence but ignore the suicide bombers for which it was built
You hate zionists, who are secular Jews and hate settlers who are religious Jews.
You never criticize Israeli-Arabs so its clear that it is the JEWS that you don't like.

Rachel Corrie was no "Peace" activist. She was on the side of the Palestinian terrorists from the beginning and is now considered a Shehada or holy martyr for Jihad by the Palestinians.

Some legacy.

JA--if you will check out my articles under "Leftist Speak Out" at www.dafka.org you will see that the FIRST article I published there was in February of 2003. My FIRST article published by Street Spirit was in 1996.

So how do you explain my so-called "cover" as a homeless advocate? Are you saying I went into deep cover SEVEN YEARS before I started publishing articles on Israel? And if I am a spy for the Zionists, why would I BLOW MY COVER by repeatedly published articles defending Israel?

Your charges make no sense.

Terry Messman knew I was writing on the Israeli-Palestinian situation well before he got any e-mails from you. However, since I never submitted any of these articles to Street Spirit for publication, he probably didn't know about them at the time I wrote them.

It is not correct to say I was concealing this from Terry. You are trying to stir up trouble any way you can -- but its obvious you have crossed over into fabrication with your outrageous claims.

For the record, I do not work for the Israeli govt., David Horowitz, Front page mag, or any Zionist organization. I am a writer and journalist. I am an UNPAID VOLUNTEER with Dafka.I report on topics as I see them. I have a right to have opinions which differ from yours, JA. And I have just as much right to express them as anyone else.

I also have a right to work as a homeless advocate AND express my support for Israel, nor are these two viewpoints inconsistant.

Please STOP harassing my co-workers with your unsolicitied e-mail campaign of hate!!

"here is no "Palestinian" genocide. The death toll is primarily male combatants and falls far below what you would expect to find in true genocide."

Incredible.
Denial
Equivocation
And LIES.
No honor or morals so your filth possess.

You use the proper noun for the people of Palestine in quotes as if to unfabricate their existence.
Your kind are the lowest residue of racist garbage and deserve any hell that life here on this earth can offer you.

SHEEPDOG WRITES: "You use the proper noun for the people of Palestine in quotes as if to unfabricate their existence. Your kind are the lowest residue of racist garbage and deserve any hell that life here on this earth can offer you."

BECKY: Now, now. No need to call people names. Especially when you haven't bothered to journalistically refute my arguments that the death toll among the Palestinians doesn't rise to the level of genocide by any stretch of the imagination.

Anyway, I did use quotes around the name, Palestinian because I doubted that a genocide had occurred with them.
Perhaps you are right, that I used them incorrectly in this instance. But you leapt to an incorrect conclusion.

I do not deny a Palestinian national identity. To the contrary. I support it. But I am both realistic over the propagandist way it began, and don't ascribe any true Palestinian national identity for its Arabic culture as spanning a very long time period.

Its like this. Arafat formed his PLO in 1965 and the word "Palestinian" first appeared meaning Islamic Arabic people currently living in Israel, Gaza, or the West Bank came into being. Prior to 1965, a Palestinian was a Jew and an Arab was....an Arab. (Watch Exodus with Paul Newman 1960)

But it wasn't until the crushing defeat of the Arab armies in 1967 that the Arab population SUDDENLY discovered their common "Palestinian" roots (they were still Islamic Arabic-speaking Arabs, Syrians, Lebanese, Egyptians, Libyans, as they had been before) and just as suddenly they longed to liberate "Palestine".

(Again in quotes because Palestine can mean many things to many people--but the one thing it has never meant was a sovereign country!!)

There was absolutely no call for Palestinian independence during the Jordanian occupation from 1948 - 1967.

This is the source of the famous quote by Golda Meir "there are no Palestinians."

That said, it is true, that from 1968 on, the Palestinian people have gone a long way towards developing a national identity. Israel formalized respect for this national identity when they signed the Oslo Peace Accords in 1994. That is the Palestinian identity that I acknowledge.

For those who doubt my words, let me ask you this.
Can you name ONE Palestinian leader prior to Arafat?
What is the Palestinian national anthem?
(check out the lyrics to this one--and check out the date it was adopted--1996)
When was Palestine founded?
Where are the borders of Palestine?
Who was Palestine's first president/leader?
Was he/she elected or came to power in some other way?
What is the population of Palestine?
Where is the printed money and stamps from Palestine?

Sad.
Reduced to repeating the same threadbare nonsense.
Like a mantra. No one, perhaps with exception of your tag team mates, even entertain the hope of your convincing anyone here on this board after seeing your unconscionable support of something you deny is happening in front of the entire world the fidelity of any of these frauds.
And it *is* Genocide with a Big G.
Look it up, miss information, read the text. Sip some tea.
Providing examples of other assholes justifying Genocide is of course expected with the resulting 'we do not kill except in self defense' total crap.
It is * Israel * which is the rogue terrorist state.
It, and its terrorists sponsors should disarm and cease this very dangerous game if mankind is to be saved from an approaching hell.

Sheepdog writes: "It is * Israel * which is the rogue terrorist state. It, and its terrorists sponsors should disarm and cease this very dangerous game if mankind is to be saved from an approaching hell."

BECKY: If Israel (did you mean to put it in quotes to imply it is not a legitimate state?) disarmed or even showed weakness, Arab armies would march in and that would be the end of the only Jewish state in the world. The 2nd Jewish holocaust would be a fait acompli.

You argue that the world can be spared "approaching hell" by sacrificing Israel on the alter of Arab conquest. I don't understand your reasoning.

Just as the Muslim thugs rioted and burned cars in France were bullies, just as the embassie and KFC burnings by Muslim mobs re: the Danish Cartoons, making concessions to bullies only winds up being a slave to the bully.

Europe thinks it can play the anti-semitic card and turn against Israel to pacify Muslim violence---but this mob is only spurred on by the concessions of infidels.

Israel knows this well. Sheepdog doesn't.

They killed Tom Cox even though he demonstrated against Israel. They didn't care. He was just another infidel.

*Israel* is not in "quotes", it is in *Astrics* as I typed it.
For emphasis. Learn the difference or use reading glasses.
*Israel* is the greatest threat in the region. *Israel* is the reason that the Palestinians *have* arms and bag bombs. Not the other way around.
Let's see.
Still chanting the same mantra in another about 'poor little Israel' when it's clearly the major criminal state in the world with only the U.S. having more General Assembly resolutions compiled against it. For multiple acts of mass murder and violence.
Only your kind would ignore this glaring reality.
And resort to chanting the same thin propaganda.
You avoided the other points I made about Genocide which is an action you either justify or relativize.
You still me me want to puke.

*Israel* is not in "quotes", it is in *Astrics* as I typed it.
For emphasis. Learn the difference or use reading glasses.
*Israel* is the greatest threat in the region. *Israel* is the reason that the Palestinians *have* arms and bag bombs. Not the other way around.
Let's see.
Still chanting the same mantra in another about 'poor little Israel' when it's clearly the major criminal state in the world with only the U.S. having more General Assembly resolutions compiled against it. For multiple acts of mass murder and violence.
Only your kind would ignore this glaring reality.
And resort to chanting the same thin propaganda.
You avoided the other points I made about Genocide which is an action you either justify or relativize.
You still *make* me want to puke.

Your thick sarcasm is really uncalled for and hypocritical. When I used quotes for emphasis you wrote: Your kind are the lowest residue of racist garbage and deserve any hell that life here on this earth can offer you."

When I asked if your astericks meant the same thing you accused me of---delegitimizing a nationality--you urged me to "learn the difference" or "invest in reading glasses."

My point is you are not interested in a serious discussion of the issues in the mideast between parties who disagree. You only want to adopt a haughty self-righteous attitude from which you can lob nasty insults.

And you say I make you want to puke.

You did NOT prove that there is/or ever was such a thing as a Palestinian genocide. Your nasty protestations, not withstanding. Rewriting the definition of "genocide" doesn't hold any water. You are then comparing apples with oranges.

The standard for a situation to rise to genocide occurs when one party attempts to KILL AN ENTIRE RACE of people, such as the Nazis in Germany did when they sent 6 million Jews to the ovens.

Since you have apparently not learned the difference, I offer you this:

GENOCIDE IN THE 20TH &21ST CENTURY

Nazi Germany -- 9 - 11 million Jews & Roma, gays, the retarded, and the homeless killed in 4 year period.

East Timoor - 100,000 to 250,000 killed

Rwanda 800,000 deaths in 1994

Cambodia & the Khamer Rouge -- 1975-1979 - 2,000,000 Deaths

Sudan - 400,000 dead from 2003 -April 20 2005

COMPARE THESE TO:

Israeli-Palestinian conflict --less than 5000 in 6 years ON BOTH SIDES

FAMOUS KILLINGS OF PALESTINIAN ARABS

1937 - 1939 , The British military killed somewhere between 3,000 and 10,000 Arabs

Black September 1970 3,000 - 5,000 killed in 10 days by JORDAN

But those Palestinian massacres don't even rate a blip on your radar screen.

You remain focused on any alleged crime committed by the Israelis, or more correctly, the JEWS as constituting the worst human rights violations on earth.

Even if you look at Palestinian deaths since Sept 2000, you find a large number of armed combatants killed. Over 125 of these were suicide bombers. The deaths are almost exclusively male with the primary ages between 13 and 25.
This is the exact demographic for armed combatants.

Many Palestinian combatants are kiled by other Palestinian combatants---especially since the death of Arafat.
Honor killings of women constitute 70% of the murders on the West Bank. Often the Palestinians attempt to blame these murders on the IDF. Palestinians are killed by celebratory gunfire frequently shot into the air with deadly results. Also Palestinians are killed in "work accidents" where their bomb factories blow up or their suicide belts detonate prematurely. Some deaths are lynchings. some deaths are executions of "collaboraters" with Israel.

The IDF specifically does not target civilians. This is the overt directive of the Israeli govt. Many consider the IDF to be the most professional army in the world where discipline in the ranks is exemplary.

Most anectdotal stories of IDF killings of civilians are falsified or told out of context. You also ignore the role the Israelis play in providing top rated medical care to the Palestinians. Israel built 166 health clinics for the Palestinians between 1967 and 1993 as well as provided universal health coverage. If Israel were trying to genocide the Palestinians, why would they attend to their health care?

There is no Palestinian genocide. Never was one. Never will be one.

wow
did you get up *early* to type all of that crap?

And anyone should believe you because...

Holding my nose, I read the expected, comparisons ( you've * done* that,you know, in order to equivocate ) references to particulars which have nothing to do with the problem of * Israel * and your vapid adherence to dogma.
If one wishes to reduce terrorism, one should cease doing it, if even under a fig leaf of ( these are quotes ) ; self defense'.
yah right.
that goes over well,
I may as well converse with a monkey with its hand caught in a jug.
Let go of the apple and pull it out.

Okay, I see you don't want to debate facts or issues.

Readers will note you have not refuted a single point I made. Snotty insults don't win debates.

Israel's case for self-defense:

1. 21 attempted attacks per day
2. need to protect civilians from suicide bombers
3. Hamas charter states goal of destroying Jewish state
4. Hizbullah attacks from Lebanon
5. Kassem rocket attacks daily from Gaza
6. Palestinian Imams calling for jihad
7. FOUR agressive attacks by Arab armies in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973 plus two intifadas
8. Only two Arab nations have accepted Israel's right to exist--Egypt & Jordan
9. smuggling tunnels in Rafah bring in terrorists and weapons
10. Karina A
11. children recruited as combatants

METHODS ISRAEL USES FOR SELF-DEFENSE

1. a fence
2. checkpoints
3. passes and permit system
4. arrests of known terrorists
5. undercover intelligence
6. special roads for Israeli citizens
7. incursions to remove bomb factories
8. targeted killings of terrorists the PA refuses to arrest
9. creating buffer zones

With the exception of #8, these are all non-violent responses to violent attacks. In the case of #8, this is only done when all other means have failed and when the person is known to be planning more attacks

Given the extraordinary situation Israel finds itself in, just for existing, they have shown admirable restraint and continue to show humanity towards even their enemies.

No no no. This simply wont due. It needs to be tidied up a mite.

"Given the extraordinary situation Israel finds itself in, just for existing, they have shown admirable restraint and continue to show humanity towards even their enemies."
This should be addressed to reflect historical reality and not some cute euphemism regarding the process of Genocide and bloodshed visited upon the People of Palestine as towns were massacred and Zionists who later became political leaders indulged in wanton slaughter of largely unarmed civilians.
This is referred to as " just for existing ". The only " restraint" Israel shows is not allowing public outrage to occur if it was ever noted over the excesses of the IDF and Shin Bet bastards.

SHEEPDOG WRITES: "The only " restraint" Israel shows is not allowing public outrage to occur if it was ever noted over the excesses of the IDF and Shin Bet bastards."

BECKY: Just how does Israel "not allow public outrage to occur?" Israel allows freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, and freedom to protest and to dissent. This is way more liberal than the vast majority of Arab/Muslim countries.

The photo is an anti-war protest in Tel Aviv, Israel. You know, the ones that Sheepdog says never happen.

More dancing Israelis.
Dancing is always good.

So the brutal military occupiers of the occupied territories failed to suppress this protest!! they must be slipping according to Sheepdog.

However, you won't find any organized protests against the Palestinian Authority! Those protests ARE illegal.

Because they're hypocrites.

I heard Amy Goodman yesterday interviewing Cindy and Craig Corrie. Goodman lobbed one softball after another failing to ask the hard questions.

QUESTIONS AMY GOODMAN FORGOT TO ASK

1. In your lawsuit, you claimed a wrongful death based on the claim the driver could see your daughter but ran her over anyway. On what evidence are you making that claim?

2. Was Rachel sitting, kneeling, or standing at the time she was hit?

3. Did she have a megaphone as the ISM reported?

4. Do you believe the IDF would have bulldozed the Nasrallah family home with 5 children inside if Rachel had not been there?

5. How many homes did the IDF destroy that day?

6. When was the home finally destroyed?

7. Was that before or after the Nasrallah family had moved out?

8. What about the claims of doctored photos--especially one where a man has missing feet and the shadows are wrong? A photo where Rachel is standing in front of a house? Were these photos altered or doctored?

9. Critics say that Rachel Corrie was in an open field when she was killed. Why aren't there more photos of her in front of a house?

10. ISM spokesperson, Huwaida Arraf, and wife of ISM co-founder Adam Shapiro claimed at a Palsolidarity conference that the ISM and the PSM are basically the same organization. She said they work with Palestinian handlers, even those from Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and the PFLP. Do you consider those terrorist organizations?

11. How many tunnels does the IDF say they have found along the Gaza/Egyptian border?

12. What did Rachel Corrie say in her e-mails home about suicide bombers?

13. Were the voices of the protesters audible inside the giant bulldozer cab?

14. Have you heard the audio tape of the voices inside the bulldozer cabs which the Israeli govt. has already released to the press?

15. What did the driver in the bulldozer that killed your daughter say just before she was hurt and just after she was hurt?

16. Rachel Corrie was asked to retrieve a dead body from a closed military zone at night? Can you tell us more about this incident? Who was this dead body? And why did they ask Rachel to retrieve it?

17. Critics have claimed that Rachel Corrie was not guarding a water well but an access tunnel to the smuggling tunnels. She claimed she was protecting the Municipal Rafah Water workers from being fired upon.
Have you been able to prove or disprove that the well she claimed she was protecting was an actual water well?

18. The blade of the caterpiller D9 bulldozer was 8'6 in high. the drivers cab was above that--with the drivers eyes over 10 feet off the ground. Do you believe Rachel was able to get her head and shoulders above the blade before she was struck and even look the driver in the eye as some ISM witnesses have claimed? How was she able to get that high off the ground? How tall was Rachel?

19. Within hours after her death, two nearly identical photos of bulldozers were posted on the ISM website. they were presented as before and after photos. Many media outlets published those photos as if they were taken seconds apart. But they were two different bulldozers taken at different times of the day. Was this an accident or was there some intention to mislead on the part of the ISM in the flurry of the hours immediately following her death?

20. Israeli families have had their own children murdered by Palestinian terrorists who have smuggled their weapons thru the tunnels the IDF was trying to destroy in Rafah. What would you say to the parents of those dead children who died as the result of weapons smuggled with the help of the ISM--intentionally or unintentionally?

Sorry, wont wash.
Repetition is only good for people who can't remember things.


The only 'doctoring' that was done was by the resident in the house that Rachel died trying to save. Let me drive a D9 up to *your* residence sometime.
Looking for terrorists, of course.

A huge blow-up of this photo is used in the Craig and Cindy Corrie Roadshow. Amy Goodman broadcast this photo without comment on Democracy Now! on Wednesday.

But look closely at the strange way Rachel and a man named "Nick" are leaning. Its a big awkward and defies gravity.

But the clinching is in the shadows--or lack of them.

Now why would the ISM forge a photo of Rachel Corrie standing in front of a house with an orange vest on and holding a bullhorn?

Perhaps because the official story is that Rachel died standing protecting a doctor's house where five children lived wearing a bright orange vest and talking in a bullhorn.

(as if the IDF would bulldoze without warning a house with 5 children in it!)

If a bunch of activists (8) were doing an action with bulldozers, part of the purpose would be to get inspiring photos from the action. Failing to have even a single photo of a house would tend to make people the ISM story lacks credence.

I mean, wouldn't they have bothered to get at least one shot of her protecting the house?

Since she was in an open field when she was killed, that was difficult. None of their shots showed her protecting a house.
So they were forced to photo-shop their "evidence" against the evil Israelis.

At least that's my paranoid theory for the day!!

Reading glasses required Get a pair.
1. There is a shrub at the foot of Rachel obscuring the shadow.
2. The shadows mentioned are consistent with lighting but Becky doesn't see the topography of the mound of dirt and the fact that the sun is *not* behind, but *above *and behind casting a shadow on the *other side* ( this means the part that is not visible from the viewpoint of the camera) of the mound.
3. the man in the photo is also behind shrubbery which obscures the shadow.

Photo analysis in not your strong point. It makes you look like you're kinda simple.

A bush wouldn't "hide a shadow". It would cast a shadow of its own. My eyes are fine.

What is wrong with you?
Are you...impaired? I don't believe you have ever been out side.

The sun is coming from about 45 -50 degrees up and about 30 degrees right to her face.
It can easily illuminate the entire upper surface of a low shrub. What is the matter with you?

Why is the man who drove the bulldozer still alive?

"Why is the man who drove the bulldozer still alive?"

If the driver of the dozer was a Palestinian, he and his friends and their families and their friends....
wouldn't be.

And I am appalled at your lynch-mob mentality!!

Israel is a state with rule of law. The Israeli govt. did an investigation of the circumstances surrounding Rachel Corrie's death. They reviewed both the video tapes made by the IDF and the audio tapes made inside the cabs of the bulldozers.

Critics claim the investigation was flawed because ISM eyewitnesses were not interviewed. But their accounts have been published online and are easily available. We can't be sure the IDF didn't study them as well.

Cindy and Craig Corrie have filed a wrongful death suit against the IDF so in time, all will become clear.

The driver "Doobie" who drove the bulldozer that crushed Rachel, is a Russian immigrant who does not speak or understand English. He has claimed that he did not see Rachel until after he hit her. On the audio tape in the cab, he mistakes Rachel for a man, which is more evidence he did not see her.

It would be hard to prove negligence on his part since Corrie greatly contributed to her own death by kneeling before a bulldozer in an area where the driver may not have been able to see her.

> And I am appalled at your lynch-mob mentality!!


I'm not - because I know who it is





> Israel is a state with rule of law

The U.N.'s 80 resolutions and 110 affirmations not withstanding



> The Israeli govt. did an investigation

oh gee - the guilty "investigated" themselves - like all those IDF soldiers they've found guilty after "investigating" the hundreds of shootings of Palestinian civilians - a 1600:1 ratio thus far

my those are some really effective "investigations" !





> ISM eyewitnesses were not interviewed

they being the only eyewitnesses as the driver is BLIND & DEAF and the supporting IDF *watching the bulldozer for terrorists* radio to the bulldozer's cab failed as well

they watch from a standoff distance and radio directions to the bulldozer operator but suddenly this failed right at the moment it happened...

then they "investigated" themselves while IGNORING the bystanding CLOSE UP eyewitnesses.



> filed a wrongful death suit against the IDF so in time, all will become clear.

the AIPAC lobby *buried it* and it's timelimit expired


> negligence on his part

correct - he was merely *following orders* being given to him on the radio

I wonder how many blind & deaf bulldozer drivers the IDF employs, a hand picked special one for that case because they KNEW the ISM was going to defend the doctor's house (as opposed to "terrorist tunnels")


funny how the lies once exposed just evaporate with the liars "investigating" themselves taken as gospel while actual close at hand eyewitnesses are ignored and *independent* investigations squashed - called for partially *because* of the lies, corruption and obstruction of justice by the "land of laws" entity responsible - the same entity in violation of more U.N. resolutions than *any other country on earth*

look here ;

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/150188_comment.php#151577

I refuted and exposed her every point, point-by-point and I have supporting data to back it up with too in case it's needed


tell you what - *I'll* prepare the picture I just suggested of the bulldozer's windows size and visual clearance alongside the existing picture of Rachael to visually show he could see her (Becky already admitted he could - he just counldn't determine the gender of the *person standing up as high as she could on a mound of dirt to GET his attention in her bright day-glow SAFETY jacket screaming at him with a LOUD megaphone. he was *ignoring her on purpose by instructions on his radio and she realized he was, so she tried *extra hard* to make it impossible for him to ignore her.. the bastard *obeying his instructions* crushed her INTENTIONALLY, with the one's who gave him the order covering for him - like they've successfully done over 1,600 times and counting

HEX WRITES: "> The Israeli govt. did an investigation

oh gee - the guilty "investigated" themselves - like all those IDF soldiers they've found guilty after "investigating" the hundreds of shootings of Palestinian civilians - a 1600:1 ratio thus far. my those are some really effective "investigations" !

BECKY: If the Israelis HADN'T done an investigation you would have raked them over the coals for that! Who else was supposed to investigate? The actual IDF soldiers involved DID NOT INVESTIGATE THEMSELVES-- they were investigated by other departments in the Israeli govt., most likely the Israeli equivalent of our own internal affairs department.

HEX WRTIES: > ISM eyewitnesses were not interviewed

they being the only eyewitnesses as the driver is BLIND & DEAF and the supporting IDF *watching the bulldozer for terrorists* radio to the bulldozer's cab failed as well

BECKY: There were other potential eye-witnesses. Each cab had two operators, and the APC had a driver. That's five potential eye-witnesses on the IDF side. However, I agree with you. The IDF should have interviewed the ISM witnesses.

HEX WRITES: " > negligence on his part

correct - he was merely *following orders* being given to him on the radio...

BECKY: Then why doesn't the audio tape record such "orders?" It records all of the radio traffic between the three vehicles in a continuous recording, which has already been released to the media.

HEX WRITES: "I wonder how many blind & deaf bulldozer drivers the IDF employs, a hand picked special one for that case because they KNEW the ISM was going to defend the doctor's house (as opposed to "terrorist tunnels")"

BECKY: Look at the ISM activists own statements: they heard some bulldozers were moving in the area and they went to them. The IDF could not have known in advance that the ISM would be there.

Second, they ISM had been playing chicken with the bulldozers for TWO HOURS previously. In each case, the drivers had stopped before an injury occurred. What makes you think they HAD TO RUN DOWN CORRIE in order to get the Doctor's house----a house that was not slated to be destroyed that day---and wasn't destroyed until 10 months later? Why not stop, back up, change directions, and then go on about their business?

You keep jumping to the conclusion that the driver intentionally ran her down -- through acting out of his own hatred or by following orders. But nothing about the incident suggests , other than eyewitness reports which firmly assert that the driver was able to see her before he hit her.

While this is not meaningless, per se, it is not compelling. For how would any of them really KNOW what the driver was thinking.

Forging one photo, and then juxtaposing two photos as though they had been taken "moments later" shows an intent to deceive on the part of the ISM organizers.

To me, the most likely conclusion anyone can draw is that Rachel, tragically, assumed the bulldozer was headed towards the house, and sat down where the driver did not see her.

Tragedy on Tragedy.

Her death was useless.
The doctor's house and its five children were not in danger.
She protected an empty field (and possibly a terrorist smuggling tunnel).

But the Palestinian PR from her death was like Saudi Gold!!

HEX WRITES: "> filed a wrongful death suit against the IDF so in time, all will become clear.

the AIPAC lobby *buried it* and it's timelimit expired "

BECKY: Too bad. I was unaware that an above board American lobbying organization would have that kind of clout in the Israeli courts. But you are entitled to your paranoid fantasies of their power. Heck, you could be completely right. I don't know.

As for MY paranoid fantasies. Now I'm wondering if the suit was serious in the first place or just some PR stunt.

The International Solidarity Movement (whose EYEWITNESSES WERE IGNORED) calls upon the United States government to conduct its own independent investigation into this incident but AIPAC buried it until the timelimit was up ruining any chance of filing suit



When the bulldozer refused to stop or turn aside she climbed up onto the mound of dirt and rubble being gathered in front of it wearing a fluorescent jacket to look directly at the driver who kept on advancing. The bulldozer continued to advance so that she was pulled under the pile of dirt and rubble. After she had disappeared from view the driver kept advancing until the bulldozer was completely on top of her. The driver did not lift the bulldozer blade and so she was crushed beneath it. Then the driver backed up - effectively running over her again. The seven other ISM activists taking part in the action where eyewitnesses to this but were ignored


Rachel Corrie’s Iowa family seeks “thorough, credible” investigation into her death

by Betsy Mayfield, Washington Report, December 2004, pages 38-39 December 31st, 2004

http://www.wrmea.com/archives/December_2004/0412038.html


the State Department and Congress


Within six weeks of Rachel’s death, an IDF sniper shot Brian Avery, a North Carolinian, in the face on April 3; Britain’s Tom Hurndell was shot in the head April 11, while trying to rescue Palestinian children from harm’s way. He remained in a vegetative state until his death in January 2004. IDF soldiers shot and killed British filmmaker James Miller on May 2, 2003, as he approached an armored personnel carrier while waving a white flag.


Rep. Brian Baird (R-WA) to gain co-sponsors for HCR 111, “Rachel’s Resolution,” which he sponsored. It calls on Washington “to undertake a full, fair, and expeditious investigation into the death of Rachel Corrie” and encourages the United States and Israel to work together to determine all the circumstances that led to the incident. Congressional insiders told the family they’d be lucky if 20 representatives signed onto it. As of this writing, 78 members have done so.




“If a citizen experiences harm at the hands of a foreign government, we expect our country to ask why. This is especially so when it happens in a nation considered a U.S. ally. I don’t see Rachel Corrie’s death as a Palestinian versus Israeli issue,” he explained. “I see it as a nation-to-nation situation that should receive the same attention as any crime against a civilian.”



What American family wouldn’t ask: Why would an ally of our country go so far as to kill an unarmed 23-year-old pacifist? Why would the United States hesitate to ask for an independent investigation?



“The Israeli military has provided two ‘reports’ on Rachel’s death,” Brodersen said, “but this does not mean there were two ‘investigations,’ as the Israeli government, certain members of Congress and the press have stated. Unfortunately, saying something does not make it true.

“So far,” she continued, “we’ve learned that one of these ‘reports’ is actually a 32-slide Command Report PowerPoint presentation, compiled by the officers responsible for the bulldozer operation. The ‘report’ concludes that Rachel was not killed by the bulldozer, but fails to include any information about military action in the 50 minutes preceding her death.”

Brodersen said she knows of only two State Department officials who, aside from Rachel’s parents, have been allowed to see the “legal opinion” issued by the Israeli Defense Force’s advocate general. She has heard comments from those who have seen it of the report’s “inconsistencies of note,” and that it “raises more questions than it answers.”

A polygraph test given to the bulldozer operator and his commanding officer resulted in the conclusion that “it was not possible to reach a ‘conclusive’ finding.” According to the report, the two men contradicted each other, one saying that they had run over Rachel and the other saying they had not.

“I trust that our government cares,” Brodersen maintains, “and I have faith that a just investigation will happen. I know that President Bush talked to Prime Minister Sharon right after Rachel was killed. Our Department of State is currently in contact with Rachel’s parents and has, from the start, respected our right to request a credible investigation.

“Congressman Jim Leach (R-IA) told us it was ‘extraordinary’ that an individual, Rachel Corrie, was mentioned and given a paragraph in the 2003 State Department Human Rights Report,” Brodersen added. “The American Embassy in Tel Aviv chastised The Jerusalem Post for printing a letter reflecting ‘a level of discourse unbefitting any serious newspaper.’ Our family appreciates the support and assistance we’ve received so far, but our need is not over nor will it be until a ‘thorough, credible, transparent’ investigation has been secured.”

Re: my "paranoid fantasies" of their power.





TIME.com:

A Second Search of AIPAC -- Page 1A Second Search of AIPAC. Federal agents search the offices of the lobbying group for evidence in a spy probe.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,845221,00.html


The Franklin - AIPAC Spy Case

The Franklin - AIPAC Spy Scandal is the second arrest of an AIPAC spy, the first was
Jonathan Pollard


Larry Franklin arrested by the FBI on May 4th for passing top secret information

Indictment Shows Washington Is 'Israeli-Occupied Territory'


The Israel lobby has distorted American policy and operates against American interests, that it has organized the funneling of more than $140 billion dollars to Israel and 'has a stranglehold' on the U.S. Congress, and its ability to raise large campaign funds gives its vast influence over Republican and Democratic administrations, while its role in Washington think tanks on the Middle East dominates the policy debate.

And they say that the Lobby works ruthlessly to suppress questioning of its role, to blacken its critics and to crush serious debate about the wisdom of supporting Israel in U.S. public life.

'Silencing skeptics by organizing blacklists and boycotts -- or by suggesting that critics are anti-Semites -- violates the principle of open debate on which democracy depends,' Walt and Mearsheimer write.

'The inability of Congress to conduct a genuine debate on these important issues paralyses the entire process of democratic deliberation. Israel`s backers should be free to make their case and to challenge those who disagree with them, but efforts to stifle debate by intimidation must be roundly condemned'


'Saying that Israel and the U.S. are united by a shared terrorist threat has the causal relationship backwards: the US has a terrorism problem in good part because it is so closely allied with Israel, not the other way around'



'Support for Israel is not the only source of anti-American terrorism, but it is an important one, and it makes winning the war on terror more difficult. There is no question that many al-Qaida leaders, including Osama bin Laden, are motivated by Israel`s presence in Jerusalem and the plight of the Palestinians. Unconditional support for Israel makes it easier for extremists to rally popular support and to attract recruits.'

They question the argument that Israel deserves support as the only democracy in the Middle East, claiming that 'some aspects of Israeli democracy are at odds with core American values. Unlike the US, where people are supposed to enjoy equal rights irrespective of race, religion or ethnicity, Israel was explicitly founded as a Jewish state and citizenship is based on the principle of blood kinship. Given this, it is not surprising that its 1.3 million Arabs are treated as second-class citizens.'

'The most powerful force in the Lobby is AIPAC, the American-Israel Public affairs Committee'

Lying piece of filth.

"She protected an empty field (and possibly a terrorist smuggling tunnel). "

Some one needs to break the point of their boot off in your ass the very next time you repeat this typical dropping of Zionazi fecal matter.
Or any other one which you continue to bring out.

we can't stop her from posting lies - but we can prove they are lies

she did admit a "doctor with 5 children's" home

(technically he is a pharmacist) - just goes to show much much indepth research she really does to be so roundly and fully convinced that Israel is pure as the driven snow

actually she's slipping (backpeddling) on that one as well

the AIPAC spy scandal is cherry

doesn't she know *I collect dirt on Israel* and have quite an archive not to mention hundreds of hours of speed-reading under my belt..

keyword search -

"AIPAC spy arrest"

coughed up the dirt very quickly - faster than I can pull it from my DVD's

....for showing us all your inherent barbarism...someone posts information about Israel,(which happens to be true),and like a typical Jew-hating little bigot,you advise she be physically assaulted....simply because YOU happen to disagree with it!!...as if YOU were the ultimate arbiter of truth....once again you have demonstrated the unbridled hubris of the lower class left....as depicted below

have any [cough] proof to back that up ?


> the lower class left

a generalization - the thing bigots/racists are made of

pots & kettles R us



nice picture, but I suspect it's doctored :)

You also need a boot broken off in your butt.
Sorry about forgetting about you. I usually try to not exclude interested parties.
:>)

Clara Lyle by any other name..

yepper there's that fresh start thing - sorry - entity

I hate to break the hateful news to "it" but no matter how much or many times "it" claims I hate based on evidence lacking - on supporting "it's" hated race's right to be free from hate - like the hate "it" is saturated with, that imparts no hate on me except in the wet dream wishful thinking OF "it"

"it's okay to hate - I can take it"

"please hate with me, I need it - I *want* it"

oh Clara that sounds almost dirty !

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HEX WRITES: "The International Solidarity Movement (whose EYEWITNESSES WERE IGNORED) calls upon the United States government to conduct its own independent investigation into this incident but AIPAC buried it until the timelimit was up ruining any chance of filing suit."

BECKY: Oh that suit!! It wasn't a suit really. More of a lobbying campaign. I'm not surprised that very little came of it, but its hardly criminal. Its a big deal for one country to send investigators to another country. Thats why INDEPENDENT investigations are so rare---they are problematic.

I meant the wrongful death suit that Cindy and Craig Corrie filed in Israel (last spring?). That one is still going thru the process at the usual glacial pace of court judgements. The corries also filed a separate suit against the IDF AND against the Caterpillar Corp. here in the USA.

When we get a judgement in the Israeli court system, then we will be able to say definitively whether Rachel was hit deliberately or accidentally.

JESSICA LYNCH vs RACHEL CORRIE

Yeah, that was a farce. Lynch had no claim to heroism or glory, although it must have been terrible to lose her best friend. Rachel Corrie showed great courage.

I disagree with what she was trying to do, but there is no question that she believed in the cause she died for.
I've interviewed Brian Willson, the activist who lost a leg at the Concord train station blocking a shipment of munitions to the Contras in Nicaragua.

I told him that he had thought that if the train didn't stop, then he would have died for a cause he believed in.

He said, "I never once thought the train wouldn't stop."
Maybe that's what happened. Rachel couldn't imagine the
caterpiller bulldozer NOT stopping.

I have my definite doubts about whether those wells the ISM was sleeping around, were really wells at all. My paranoid fantasy is that the Palestinians handlers (members of Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and the PFLP) told the ISM that the IDF was preventing the nearby villagers from getting clean drinking water. So they would shoot at the Rafah Municipal Water Workers. they asked the ISM to stand between the IDF and the well workers.

but what if if wasn't a water well? What if they were just pretending to be municipal workers? Wasn't this well located in the same area where air shafts to underground smuggling tunnels run?

the part about the story that is not believable is that the IDF would try to prevent a village from getting drinking water. Or that they would shoot at innocent well workers. Those two items don't make sense and aren't believable to me.

Hence, the second scenario. Anyway you look at it, a person could get shot doing it.

HEX WRITES: (technically he is a pharmacist) - just goes to show much much indepth research she really does to be so roundly and fully convinced that Israel is pure as the driven snow...."

BECKY: I never said that Israel was perfect. In fact, the only allegation I have made here, is that Corrie's death was accidental and not intentional.

As to the doctor---there were two brothers sharing the same house. One a doctor, and the other a pharmacist.
I met Khaled Nasrallah when he was in Santa Cruz. He's not working as a pharmacist anymore. Now he's an accountant.

I kind of figured you'd pick up on that "above board lobbying organization" for your special (not that special!) blend of sarcasm and contempt. What I meant by that is that AIPAC is a registered lobbying organization and, as such, must follow certain rules.

The so-called AIPAC spying scandal isn't very scandalous to my taste. Two extremely well-known lobbyists are meeting with some guy in the Pentagon and he volunteers all this classified information. they take notes and duly report it to the home organization, the Israeli govt.

I mean we are all allies. More of a technical error without any true consequences. I mean it wasn't like outing a CIA agent or anything that bad.

If anyone should have gotten in trouble, it was the guy at the pentagon who should have known better. But the two lobbyists---how would they be expected to know the difference between classified and unclassified material?
And how would they, as reps for a strong ally of the USA, feel they had done any harm at all by reporting to their superiors?

Its a weird case, but it really means very little in the grand scheme of things. Maybe it represents some state dept. types who don't like Israelis.

My paranoid fantasy-

No one got hurt, no one died-
The so-called AIPAC spying scandal-

looks like simple denial to me, not paranoia.

without getting bogged down in "your" take and opinions, the points about AIPAC stand - they *are* the most powerful *foreign government* lobby and *did* flex their political muscle to squash the effort to simply do what is *normally* done - an independent investigation

Israel's record of 1600:1 shows justice and TRUTH mean with them - like you - NOTHING


and AIPAC's "above board" "hardly criminal" activities spy scam where AIPAC's headquarters have been raided TWICE by the FBI and AIPAC's head honchos ARRESTED - TWICE

doesn't quite ring true to the rosey picture you attempted to paint, arrest-spy-scandal doesn't fit very well into "above board" not to mention their other dirty tricks & games (blacklists for example)


As to Israel determining whether Rachel was murdered - they've *already wormed & lied like hell* about it - like those other 1,600 cases where the IDF murdered people yet were never "found" guilty, plus in Rachel's case the independent look at the FACTS from ALL parties, insted of the BS lies from the IDF - the guilty - investigating themselves

Imagine a court where the accused does the "investigation" the prosecutor would nomally do..

such is justice in Israel -

"will be able to say definitively"

will be able to bury effectively




> Rachel couldn't imagine the caterpiller bulldozer NOT stopping.

and NOT stopping makes it murder - it's not a train on rails where it takes time to slow down and it can't *change direction* - a bulldozer is AIMED (steered) and isn't pulling a load far heaver than it'self

the train analogy is disingenuous like so much of your other P.R. tripe -


I have my definite doubts / My paranoid fantasy is / aren't believable to me

another example of parroting prepared propaganda while tagging it as your own to "personalize" it and draw us away from it's actual source - the P.R. machine

designed to blacken - demonize the ISM at *every* turn in *every* way

example ; (ISM always bad - IDF always good)

- you've never had anything *positive* to say about the ISM

no person/people/organization can be totally bad (or good) yet "your" version of reality, events and history attempts to do exactly that

the hallmark of propaganda






> AIPAC is a registered lobbying organization and, as such, must follow certain rules.


well the raids and ARRESTS (and blacklists & blackmail) show that AIPAC is NOT following the rules


> The so-called AIPAC spying scandal isn't very scandalous to my taste. Two extremely well-known lobbyists are meeting with some guy in the Pentagon and he volunteers all this classified information. they take notes and duly report it to the home organization, the Israeli govt.


that's a very pretty whitewash - the truth is far FAR worse, AIPAC enjoys the privilege of being an "above board" AMERICAN lobby

yet

they are "reporting" top secret military data on an *extended and continuing* (until the busts) basis to a FOREIGN government

and they aren't the only Israeli organization doing so

matter of fact Israel (not even considering the phone records scandal, etc) is by far the biggest - by a long measure - spy presence in America

all this *massive* spying when put in light of the other dirty activities plus the drain on our taxes (biggest receiver of foreign aid, as much as our own government spends on US) shows a very bad situation with Israel

the report I posted fairly sums it up - America is essentially Israel occupied territory



> it represents some state dept. types who don't like Israelis

no it represents the *tip of the iceburg*

Sharon fessed up to it himself -

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's spontaneous outburst during a recent cabinet meeting--about how "Jews control America, and America knows it"

was reported in har'aretz as well but they pulled it when the shit hit the fan (it was carried on Israeli radio *live* as he said it, plus a diplomat confirmed it

Ariel Sharon's exact words -

"every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and will do that. I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it."

The radio said Peres and other cabinet ministers warned Sharon against saying what he said in public because "it would cause us a public relations disaster."

and no I'm not nester - me & nester don't even get along, I'm not even going to bother to go into detail

but DO post the hard data you possess that PROVES the quote is false

while your at it post some nice whitewash/sugarcoat on AIPAC - show us just how sweet & pure this "above board" "American" lobby is

I'd *really* love to see that as it's the MAIN POINT - that Sharon admitted something along the lines is minor

since Israel buried the scandal on Sharon's admission you're going to find it rather difficult to post what *he DID say*

I already posted an exact quote..

where's YOURS ?

saying I'm nester to *change the subject and shit-stir* while failing to actually refute the *direct quote* although typical of the "public perception" games you play, doesn't affect what I posted..

The only source for this quote is a Palestinian newspaper with an attribution (they claim they got it from Kol Y'israel radio) which is unsubstantiated and denied by the source itself. It has obviously gone through various mutations, until now it is here attributed to coming from a "debate with Shimon Peres." Whatever one's views of Sharon, this quote seems pretty clearly apocryphal.

"...the points about AIPAC stand - they *are* the most powerful *foreign government* lobby and *did* flex their political muscle to squash the effort to simply do what is *normally* done - an independent investigation"

BECKY: I didn't disprove this. I'm still waiting for you to offer some proof other than an unsupported assertion that AIPAC pressured or "killed" an attempt to pressure American authorities to conduct an investigation into the circumstances surrounding the death of Rachel Corrie.

I would suggest the Corrie foundation hire a firm to do an independent investigation and publish the results in their entirety.

Nothing will bring Rachel back.
But it would be good to have a clear record of what happened.

The Israeli 's killed yet another unarmed person with intent and disregard for life.
This is not news.

It's operational policy.

"...you've never had anything *positive* to say about the ISM

HEX WRITES: " no person/people/organization can be totally bad (or good) yet "your" version of reality, events and history attempts to do exactly that. the hallmark of propaganda..."

BECKY: You are right. I really have not found much to praise about the ISM. So your charge hits its mark. But your conclusion is wrong---that I am not the original source of my postings, or that I am part of some large conspiracy to flood indymedia with "Zionist propaganda." None of that is true.

One of my girlfriends is with the ISM. She and I worked together on the "Santa Cruz Five" trials around the war in Yugoslavia protest in 1999. She is a great person, very dedicated to the cause she is working for, and hasn't a mean bone in her body.

So when I started to get e-mails from her written in Tulkareem when she was working with the ISM, I started to write her back. I was very worried for her. And worried that my e-mails to her, and the information I was imparting, might somehow cause her harm.

She was supported protests against "the Apartheid Wall" as she put it. The protest was happening outside of town and she would stay and receive reports and she would post them to the media. So she would post reports her own eyes and ears had not verfied.

I wrote her about an honor killing that happened right in Tulkareem while she was there. A son killed his mother on the public sidewalk---a mother of five---because she had divorced his father and married a Jewish man. she came back for a visit, and her son stabbed her to death.

I never got any more e-mails from her after that.

sometimes the truth is not pretty. Sometimes it involves people you like and respect doing things you can't ever approve of. I hope I can talk to my girlfriend again some day about these issues. but until she is ready to listen, that will not happen.

the AIPAC case – obviously a case of pure espionage as the defendants met in secret to obtain classified American intelligence documents concerning Iran, in order to eventually pass such documents to, amongst others, an espionage agent for a foreign country.











PRO-ISRAEL LOBBY ON CAPITOL HILL
By Tom Carver
BBC (UK)
October 31, 2003

[The following is the transcript of the BBC show 'Newsnight', which was
exploring the issue of the strength of the pro-Israel lobby on Capitol
Hill by interviewing some members of that lobby.]

TOM CARVER:
This will be as much of an American journey as a Middle Eastern one.
Past crashes and breakdowns litter the roadside and serve as cautionary
tales. To turn failure into success will require the full support of
the Jewish community in America, just as much as their cousins in
Israel. But many of the leaders of this community in America are
sceptical of the road map.

MALCOLM HOENLEIN: (Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish
Organizations)
How can you bring the UN and the EU with their hostile records towards
Israel into those determining compliance? We saw what a great record
they had in regard to Iraq. How can you have a successful process,
whereby you put a 150 measures in a short period of time that can never
be implemented in the schedule designed?

TOM CARVER:
The most well-known face of the Jewish political groups in this country
is AIPAC, which calls itself a pro-Israel lobby. It helped to organise
this demonstration on the Capitol steps last year. AIPAC doesn't give
interviews easily and turned down our requests. But you can glean a lot
about the way it works from public records. AIPAC itself is not a
donor. What it does is encourage its many members to donate as private
individuals to the campaigns of hundreds of politicians.

JJ GOLDBERG: (Editor, Forward)
You give $2,000 and bundle cheques together adding up to $10,000
because the legal amounts are small these days. But it gets you on the
phone. It's not so much fear of your donors, it's access for the donors
and fear that the money will show up on the other side.

TOM CARVER:
Hard facts are difficult to pin down, but 80% of the Senate received
money from pro-Israeli political action committees in the last
election, and that doesn't even include individual donations.

Look at Amy Friedkin, AIPAC's president. Before her appointment last
May, she gave money as a private citizen to more than 40 members of
Congress on both sides of the aisle. Among them, several of the
Democrat presidential candidates like John Edwards, the Democrat leader
in the House, Nancy Pelosi, the Republican leader in the Senate, Bill
Frist, and the Republican speaker of the house, Dennis Hastert.

JJ GOLDBERG:
Everybody will tell you, in American politics, access is everything.
The other everything is money. If you have 60,000 people, all of whom
make it their business to donate and raise money for their favourite
candidates, candidates remember you when you walk in with a bundle of
cheques. That is a network of influence.

TOM CARVER:
There are bigger donors than the pro-Israeli lobby, but none equal its
commitment and organisation. To the extent that few politicians now
dare oppose it.

DOUGLAS BLLOMFIELD: (Legislative Director, AIPAC 1988 - 89)
AIPAC has one enormous advantage. It really doesn't have any
opposition.

TOM CARVER:
When he was AIPAC's legislative director, Douglas Bloomfield found that
Arab-Americans who opposed Israel had an uphill struggle.

DOUGLAS BLOOMFIELD:
There are 22 Arab countries. There are both Christians and Muslims.
Most of the American Arabs who came to this country fled to get away
from oppressive regimes. None of those countries today has a democratic
regime, with which Americans can easily identify. My ancestors came
from Syria. I want to improve US-Syrian relations. But my Congressman
says that Syria heads the list of terrorist nations.

TOM CARVER:
What really alarms the likes of Tam Dalyell is the purported Jewish
influence in the White House. There's certainly a close alignment
between the neo-cons in the Republican Party and those in the Jewish
community.

The most powerful intellectual advocate of the war in Iraq, Paul
Wolfowitz, is Jewish. So is Bill Kristol, one of the most influential
Republican journalists. His father, Irving Kristol, was an early
neo-con in the '70s with Norman Podhoretz, who just happens to be the
father-in-law of Eliot Abrams, George Bush's key Middle East advisor.

But these connections don't make a conspiracy - after all, the Clinton
White House had its fair share of Jewish intellectuals too. Whatever
influence someone like Norman Podhoretz has is not because he's
persuaded George Bush, but because his and the president's world view
happen to coincide.

NORMAN PODHORETZ:
The only way to ensure a victory against terrorism and our own safety,
is to do what Vice-president Cheney said, to drain the swamps in which
terrorism breeds. By "swamps", he means the despotism of the Middle
East. They and we look forward to regime changes in that part of the
world.

TOM CARVER:
How successfully does Ariel Sharon exploit all these connections? Again
it's not as straightforward as it seems. Because he's such a good
friend of Israel, it's difficult for Sharon to criticise George Bush
publicly. So Jerusalem resorts to backroom tactics.

At Forward, one of the most respected newspapers in the Jewish
community, journalists have uncovered instances of Jerusalem using the
American lobby to apply pressure on the White House.

JJ GOLDBERG:
There have been times when American Jews have been presented with a far
more alarmist version than Canadian or British Jews. The Israeli
embassy in Washington was putting out material substantially different
from other Israeli embassies. I have to conclude that was a decision
that American Jews have a huge influence in Washington and therefore in
the Middle East. Canadian Jews are less crucial, so you might as well
treat them as people.

TOM CARVER:
Tell them the truth?

JJ GOLDBERG:
Yes.

TOM CARVER:
Hidden in the very success of groups like AIPAC lies a fundamental,
possibly fatal, weakness. AIPAC's way of rewarding its donors is to
give them the chance to mix with the A-list of the Administration. But
that creates dependency on the White House and its stars like Colin
Powell.

DOUGLAS BLOOMFIELD:
They would not show up if this institution was in confrontation with
the Administration. It says, if you want this kind of access, to raise
this kind of money, you have to pull your punches. You can't be totally
free if you're dependent on this cycle of fund-raising.

TOM CARVER:
You're saying AIPAC is dependent on the Administration, not the other
way round?

DOUGLAS BLOOMFIELD:
Definitely.

TOM CARVER:
But in the heart of Manhattan we met a different type of lobby. Malcolm
Hoenlein's been called the most influential member of America's Jewish
community. Every major Jewish group belongs to his organisation. He is
supposed to represent their views. His critics claim he uses the
platform to push his own right-wing views. What no one disputes is
that, after 16 years operating behind the scenes, he has unrivalled
access to the political establishment.
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just some data I was in the process of collecting...

Islamic Jihad: Katyusha Rockets Will Liberate Land Adjacent to Gaza

The militant Islamic Jihad group said Wednesday it has "many" Russian-made Katyusha rockets that it can launch at Israel from the Gaza Strip. The group fired such a rocket from Gaza toward Israel for the first time on Tuesday.

Islamic Jihad said the Grad version of the Katyusha is 2.8 meters long, carries a 17-kg warhead, and has a range of 18-30 km. Abu Abdullah, a spokesman for the group, said the rockets were made in Russia and smuggled into Gaza from Egypt.

"These rockets, God willing, will be the reason for liberating the villages adjacent to the Gaza Strip," he said. (AP/Kuwait Times)

>Islamic Jihad Thanks Rachel Corrie

Not what the actual article says.

The article says that Islamic Jihad smuggled the rockets in thru Egypt. Rachel Corrie and the ISM were actively engaged in blocking the IDF's efforts to stop the weapons smuggling through the tunnels and by other means.

Wittingly or unwittingly, Rachel Corrie and the ISM were defending those weapons smuggling tunnels. Corrie has already been declared a Shehada or a Holy Martyr for Jihad.

It's as simple as two plus two.

Sick of lying Zionazis.

When you repeat a lie it's STILL a lie.
-"through the tunnels"-
Those are worm holes in your ideology.

There never were 'tunnels' near where Rachel died.
Another in a sea of unarmed victims of IDF GENOCIDE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie


On March 16, 2003, Corrie was in a group of seven ISM activists (three British and four Americans) attempting to disrupt the actions of the bulldozers. The IDF later said it was not intending to demolish houses but was clearing debris and shrubbery to expose explosive devices.


[Between 14:00 and 15:00], Rachel and two other activists began interfering with the other bulldozer, which was attempting to destroy grass and other plants on what used to be farmland. They stood and sat in its path, and though it would drive very close to them, and even move the earth on which they were sitting, it always stopped in time to avoid injuring them ...


[Between 15:00 and 16:00], one bulldozer pushed Will, an American activist, up against a pile of barbed wire. Fortunately, the bulldozer stopped and withdrew just in time to avoid injuring him seriously, but we had to dig him out of the rubble, and unhook his clothing from the wire. The tank approached to see if he was ok. One soldier stuck his head out of the tank to see, and he looked quite shocked and dumbfounded, but said nothing ...


"[Between 16:45 and 17:00], [o]ne bulldozer, serial number 949623, began to work near the house of a physician who is a friend of ours ... Rachel sat down in the pathway of the bulldozer ... [It] continued driving forward headed straight for Rachel. When it got so close that it was moving the earth beneath her, she climbed onto the pile of rubble being pushed by the bulldozer. She got so high onto it that she was at eye-level with the cab of the bulldozer ...


Despite this, he continued forward, which pulled her legs into the pile of rubble, and pulled her down out of view of the driver ... We ran towards him, and waved our arms and shouted, one activist with the megaphone. But [he] continued forward, until Rachel was underneath the central section of the bulldozer ...

Despite the obviousness of her position, the bulldozer began to reverse, without lifting its blade, and drug [sic] the blade over her body again. He continued to reverse until he was on the boarder [sic] strip, about 100 meters away, and left her crushed body in the sand. Three activists ran to her and began administering first-responder medical treatment ... She said, "My back is broken!" but nothing else ..."



the picture was mentioned ;

"When the error was discovered, Reuters and ISM removed the images from their websites"


"Israeli army regulations normally require that other soldiers assist in directing bulldozer drivers" -

"The tank approached to see if he was ok. One soldier stuck his head out of the tank to see, and he looked quite shocked and dumbfounded, but said nothing"




Amnesty International USA called for an independent inquiry, with Christine Bustany, their advocacy director for the Middle East, saying that "U.S.-made bulldozers have been 'weaponized' and their transfer to Israel must be suspended." U.S. Representative Brian Baird introduced Resolution 111 in the U.S. Congress on March 25, 2003, calling on the U.S. government to "undertake a full, fair, and expeditious investigation" into Corrie's death. [19](pdf) The Corrie family also called for a U.S. investigation. [20]

http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/citycouncil/2003citycouncil/packet/090903/2003-09-09%20Item%2047a-42a.pdf




PLAY ABOUT RACHEL "SQUASHED"

My Name is Rachel Corrie, a play composed from Corrie's journals and e-mails from Gaza and directed by British actor Alan Rickman, opened in London and ran until April 30, 2005, [22] before being revived in October 2005. The play was to be transported to the New York Theatre Workshop, but when it was postponed indefinitely, the English producers denounced the decision as "censorship" and withdrew the show. [23] [24]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1454990,00.html

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060403/weiss
http://www.counterpunch.org/davis03062006.html




Two weeks ago, the Presbyterian Church warned four US companies to stop providing military equipment and technology to Israel for use in the occupation of the Palestinian territories, or else face a vote by the Church to divest its stock in them. A church investment committee accused Motorola, Caterpillar, ITT Industries and United Technologies of selling helicopters, cellphones, night vision equipment as well as other items used by Israel in its forced occupation of Palestinian territory. Other mainline Protestant churches have followed in the campaign of the Presbyterian Church using corporate divestment as a tactic in the Middle East conflict.
The Episcopal Church of U.S.A., the United Church of Christ, two regions of the United Methodist Church, as well as international groups like the World Council of Churches and the Anglican Consultative Council have all urged similar economic boycotts of Israel. One of the companies that is facing divestment is Caterpillar. Last week, President Bush visited the company's manufacturing plant in Montgomery, Illinois where he signed the federal Transportation Equity Act.

For years, Caterpillar has been a target of activists because of its sale of bulldozers to Israel that have been used to demolish Palestinian homes. This campaign gained momentum after the death of Rachel Corrie, the young American woman who was crushed to death on March 16, 2003 by an Israeli military bulldozer as she tried to prevent the demolition of a Palestinian home. In March 2005, Rachel's parents initiated lawsuits against the State of Israel, the Israel Defense Forces and Caterpillar. Subsequently, they haves been joined by Palestinian plaintiffs in the suit against Caterpillar. This summer, members of the Palestinian family who lived in the home Corrie was defending came to the U.S. to travel with Corrie's parents Cindy and Craig on a national speaking tour.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/17/1344202&mode=thread&tid=25




On rescuing Private Lynch and forgetting Rachel Corrie

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,961000,00.html




Activist's memorial service disrupted, The Guardian, March 19, 2003.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,917119,00.html



Capitulation to censors: NY theater cancels Rachel Corrie play

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/mar2006/corr-m03.shtml



Rachel Corrie died under a bulldozer for her beliefs and now her reputation is being blogged to death, The Guardian, March 31, 2003.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,926093,00.html



Family fears activist's death will never be explained, The Observer, January 30, 2005.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1401813,00.html




Israeli report clears troops over U.S. death, The Guardian, April 14, 2003.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,936305,00.html



Four deaths, not one answer, The Guardian, October 20, 2003.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1066845,00.html



Surely Americans will not put up with this censorship, The Guardian, March 1, 2006.

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1720592,00.html



Alan Rickman slams 'censorship' of play about U.S. Gaza activist, The Guardian, February 28, 2006.

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,1719693,00.html



Rachel Corrie: Too Hot for New York, The Nation, March 16, 2006.

http://www.alternet.org/story/33669/




Theatre gets stagefright over play on Israeli death of activist, The Sydney Morning

http://smh.com.au/news/world/theatre-gets-stagefright-over-play-on-israeli-death-of-activist/2006/02/28/1141095740986.html






Photo collection from bulldozing incident, IndyBay.org


http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/03/1583823.php

I pretty much agree with your timeline.
You forgot to include two items that preceeded Corrie's death.
That is that she first retrieved a dead body from a closed military zone.
Then she was guarding wells where the Palestinians said the IDF had been shooting at.
These two items show a pattern of dangerous risk-taking.

One key point you don't explain is how far in front of the bulldozer was Corrie when she first knelt down?

The eyewitnesses have vastly different statements.

This is key to knowing if the driver initially saw her.

the second claim you make in your timeline is that Corrie was "eyelevel with the driver"

How did she do this?

How tall was she?
the blade is over 8 feet tall and the window of the cab is over ten feet tall. How could she climb up that high? It defies belief. Alice Cox said "her head was clearly visible over the blade" but another witness says "head and shoulders".

Some witnesses say she was sitting. others that she was kneeling. others that she was standing.

some say she had a megaphone and other say she was waving her hands.

Even if the eyewitnesses are all telling the truth to the best of their recollections (which we can't conclude, BTW) it still doesn't prove the driver saw her.

I hope that the Corrie's lawsuit proceeds so we can finally get some answers.