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by JA (repost)
Saturday, Feb. 11, 2006 at 4:20 PM
The Father Bill O’Donnell Social Justice Committee is honored to host Dr. Annette Herskovits who will present this half-hour documentary by Derri Berkani and talk about her own harrowing experience as a child, barely escaping the Nazis because she was protected by _MUSLIMS_ in Occupied France during WWII. ARABS/MUSLIMS also protected European Jews in North Africa, most notably in Morocco.
Jews and Muslims have often lived and acted in harmony [especially before the Zionist state of Israel was imposed in Palestine]. During WWII, MUSLIMS in France protected Jews from deportation to Nazi death camps. The Paris MOSQUE became a refuge for anyone hiding from the German occupiers, including Jews, many of them children. The mosque’s rector even provided false birth certificates “proving” that Jews were MUSLIMS. Solidarity between Jews and Muslims FLOURISHED beyond the mosque.
The film’s director found a leaflet distributed by Algerian workers after Paris police conducted the first massive round-up of Jews. It said: ‘The Jews are our brothers, and their children are like our own children.”
"A Forgotten Resistance: The Mosque of Paris", a documentary directed by Derri Berkani; in French with English subtitles. Approx. 30 minutes.
For more information contact: Father Bill O'Donnell Social Justice Committee 510-482-1062
[ So, ARABS/MUSLIMS _PROTECTED_ JEWS from the goosesteppers and were pretty good at resisting the Nazi attempt to exterminate all the Jews (who lived there or fled there) in France. Of course, this is in addition to the fact that during the Inquisition Jews went/fled to the _ARAB_ world for safety. Historically, Jews often went to the Arab/Muslim world for safety. And before Zionism – and the European Zionist colonial invasion – Arabs and Jews lived in fair peace in Palestine. Jewish/Israeli academics KNOW all this.
WHERE'S Hollywood's and Broadway's 'Anne Frank', or rather 'Anne François' stories about the French Muslims? Why don't any of those prominent Hollywood and Broadway Jewish directors and producers do a movie or play about that!? OR DOES THAT NOT FIT AMERICA'S/EUROPE'S RACIST ARAB/MUSLIM STEREOTYPES?
WHERE *ARE* YOU, STEVEN SPIELBERG!?...
Funny those MORONIC Jewish _Arab-haters_ and "Al-Nakba" (the Palestinian "The Catastrophe") deniers never seem to post comments and rail against the Christians! Christians have killed – often gleefully and sadistically torturing first – literally MILLIONS more Jews than Arabs/Muslims ever have killed. It wasn't even Arabs/Muslims who threw the ancient Hebrews out of Palestine – it was Europeans! And WHO oh WHO led to the Jews being thrown out of ancient Palestine anyway??? Yeah, those Muslims and Arabs 'just hate Jews because Jews are Jews', don't they? And look what (Zionist) Jews have done in return. ]
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by JA
Saturday, Feb. 11, 2006 at 4:24 PM
But -- WAIT! -- like all inveterate, pathological, crude racists, fresca/Becky will try to explain this away.
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by history buff
Saturday, Feb. 11, 2006 at 5:36 PM
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by JA
Saturday, Feb. 11, 2006 at 6:12 PM
fucked-up fresca: "The problem with your implication and the reason why no one (but yourselves, of course) rail against the Christians, is because they stopped this sort of behavior CENTURIES AGO."
IN FUCKED-UP FRESCA'S HASTE TO BE A RABID ARAB-HATER, I GUESS THAT FUCKED-UP FRESCA (aka Bullshit Becky, aka Agent Johnson) HAS ALREADY FORGOTTEN __THE THIRD REICH__ !!
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by fresca
Saturday, Feb. 11, 2006 at 6:29 PM
Point taken. That 6 million figure was indeed a huge exageration. I doubt, and never ever believed, that the Nazis ever killed anywhere near that many Jews! I'll grant you, the Jews often do exagerate. But the Muslims will. I bet that they helped those Jews escape to Morocco just to exterminate them FOR Hitler. You never heard again from those escaped Jews in Morocco. Did you?
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by JA: fresca's gone null & void!
Saturday, Feb. 11, 2006 at 6:58 PM
fresca: "Point taken. That 6 million figure was indeed a huge exageration. I doubt, and never ever believed, that the Nazis ever killed anywhere near that many Jews! I'll grant you, the Jews often do exagerate."
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by fresca
Saturday, Feb. 11, 2006 at 7:03 PM
"HAS ALREADY FORGOTTEN __THE THIRD REICH__ !! "
And certainly when I, for one, think of rabid fundamentalist Christians i first think of the Third Reich.
Try again.
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by Scorpio
Saturday, Feb. 11, 2006 at 7:08 PM
JA.... Hate to tell ya, buddy, but the Nazi's weren't actually all that Christian. The 'state religion', for lack of a better term, was a form of humanistic paganism. In fact, the SS destroyed quite a number of churches in France and in eastern europe. They intentionally displayed desecrated crucifixes in public. They would take them out of churches, burn and shoot them and then leave them outside for the town people to see.
Pope Pius XI explicitly denounced Nazi paganism in 1937.
It is true that some Nazi's (even some prominent Nazi's) viewed their work as an extension of Christianity, but the core of their belief system was deeply pagan. Concepts like the Ubermensch came from pagan and existential sources, not Christianity. The SS was an almost entirely pagan society in its total rejection of Christian empathy, sympathy, acceptance and love.
So... maybe its time you ended your little anti-Christian crusade in this thread. Know your facts.
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by JA
Saturday, Feb. 11, 2006 at 7:11 PM
fucked-up fresca: "And certainly when I, for one, think of rabid fundamentalist Christians i first think of the Third Reich."
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by fresca
Saturday, Feb. 11, 2006 at 7:29 PM
No they were'nt muslim, but they were hardly a Christian state and nazism has never been considered an even remote Christian movement.
No, those six million murders can be chocked up to the same sort of mentality that uses phrases like "jew run media".
You know. Like yours.
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by fresca
Saturday, Feb. 11, 2006 at 7:30 PM
Excellent lesson you've treated JA to there Scorpio.
well done.
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by JA
Saturday, Feb. 11, 2006 at 8:02 PM
FUCKED-UP FRESCA: "No they [Nazi Germany] were'nt muslim, but they were hardly a Christian state and nazism has never been considered an even remote Christian movement." mistaken Scorpio: "JA.... Hate to tell ya, buddy, but the Nazi's weren't actually all that Christian. The 'state religion', for lack of a better term, was a form of humanistic paganism." Did the Nazis have some occult practices centering around their flag and national symbols? Sure. But then so does the U.S.: almost literally deifies/sanctifies the flag in a way that most other countries don't! Now, I don't believe that the Nazis believed in God/religion anymore than Bush or Cheney -- or for that matter Pat Robinson, except as a tool to exploit the masses and oppress others -- but both the U.S. and the Nazis, in their respective imperialist and extermination programs -- use(d) religion to justify their programs, and manipulate and chump the masses, or to relieve the masses guilt (and for that matter, so do the Zionists). Israel is, after all, a semi-theocratic state based on "a 5,000 year-old ancient promise from God"[!!]; a state where there isn't even any civil marriage/divorce, and if a wife's husband suddenly dies, she has to get permission to remarry from her brother-in-law! Now, how *worse* than *medieval* is that!? Hitler was always trying to seek the blessings of the church. Just because he executed some dissident Christian leaders, like Dietrich Bonhoffer, doesn't change that. (Jim Crow Southerners and the KKK used to murder even Black Christian ministers and bomb Black churches, but that doesn't mean that the Jim Crow South, like the states of Mississippi and Alabama, or the KKK weren't Christian.) Check this out: Hitler's Christianity To deny the influence of Christianity on Hitler and its role in World War II, means that you must ignore history and forever bar yourself from understanding the source of German anti-Semitism and how the WWII atrocities occurred. ... Hitler's religious beliefs and fanaticism (quotes from Mein Kampf) Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself. ... The Catholic and Protestant Churches in Germany set the foundation for WWII and the atrocities to occur. Popes, priests and nuns supported Hitler's regime. Indeed, Hitler could not have come to power without Christianity's help. ... The Christianity of Hitler revealed in his speeches and proclamations Hitler's own words reveal his feelings for God, Christianity and faith. Taken from speeches made by Hitler from the 1922 to 1939. ... Hitler was not only a confessed Christian, but his intolerance and atrocities were consistent with Biblical scripture and he acted as other Christians of the past and present. ... Hitler's Bible--Monumental History of Mankind Hitler's private notes show how the Bible influenced Hitler http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm And how about this: The Christianity of Hitler revealed in his speeches and proclamations Compiled by Jim Walker Through subterfuge and concealment, many of today's Church leaders and faithful Christians have camouflaged the Christianity of Adolf Hitler and have attempted to mark him an atheist, a pagan cult worshipper, or a false Christian. However, from the earliest formation of the Nazi party and throughout the period of conquest and growth, Hitler expressed his Christian support to the German citizenry and soldiers. In the 1920s, Hitler's German Workers' Party (pre Nazi term) adopted a "Programme" with twenty-five points (the Nazi version of a constitution). In point twenty-four, their intent clearly demonstrates, from the very beginning, their stand in favor of a "positive" Christianity: http://www.thatcherthunders.org/tthitrev.htm for more, just google: hitler nazi christianity --- there's only about 954,000 hits. (Okay, I gotta go out for the evening. Fucked-up fresca, you stop entertaining me for a while, okay? I'll catch ya tomorrow!)
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by JA
Saturday, Feb. 11, 2006 at 8:05 PM
Title got cut off in above post.
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by fresca
Saturday, Feb. 11, 2006 at 10:55 PM
jeez, all that typing and all so silly.
Look JA, you're never gonna win any awards for your intellect but damn if you don't at least have tanacity.
That Hitler was or wasn't a Christian is immaterial. The Holocaust was NOT a war against Jews committed in the name of Christianity.
if Hitler and any of his fellow Nazis were Christians is obviously incidental.
By you logic, the defeat of Nazism and the liberation of the Jews was a Christian victory as it was accomplished by americans and Brits, both incidentally comprised somewhat of Christians.
Your attempt at an analogy to rabid, armed islam is just stupid.
Today's militant islam is armed and murdering in the name of islam to FURTHER the spread of islam against those who ARE NOT islam.
The world hasn't seen this type of organized and zealous violence since the Crusades. You know the Christian crusades. The ones of HUNDREDS of years ago.
So by all means keep up your research on your fellow Jewhating hero Hitler, but your analogy of a Christian assault is ridiculous.
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by it's the muuuuuuuslims
Saturday, Feb. 11, 2006 at 11:54 PM
fucked-up fresca, is right.
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by JA VADER (repost)
Saturday, Feb. 11, 2006 at 11:59 PM
(repost. if i may ja)
FRESCA USED TO BE A JEDI.
BUT I HAVE TURRRRNED HER TO THE DARRRRK SIIIIDE...!!
WATCH HER FACE CONTORRRT AND HER UGGGLY LIPSSS CURRRRRL WITH **HAAAAAAAAAATRRRRRRED**...!!
JA VADER (breathing): [ HHSHHHHHH...., HHSHHHHH...., HHISHHHHHH..... ]
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by JA VADER
Monday, Feb. 13, 2006 at 11:53 AM
HAAAAAA!--HA-HA-HA-HA....!!
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