Southern California Anarchist Federation LA Youth Collective

The Youth Collective of the Southern California Anarchist Federation (Los Angeles Chapter) will be meeting Saturday February 11 at 4pm at the Youth Justice Coalition Center

YJC Center

253 W. Martin Luther King Blvd (cross street is King)

(buses that go there are the 40, 45, 42, 740, 745)

The Youth Collective will be planning and discussing building the youth collective on agreed principles of

-Building Unity between Black and Brown youth

-Class Struggle, and building Class consciousness

-Solidarity

-Self-Organization of Youth

-Organizing in Schools (building student councils)

and other principles (all still being discussed)

contact the youth collective at

www.scafla.communityfeast.org

I know you guys are organizing black & brown youth, but can other colors come too? I'm sort-of an olive-pink, mostly. Please let me know.

sh(A)ne
Teensploitation.Bureaucrash.com

For what purpose and against whom?

Isn't that racism to organize people based on skin color to advance their own racial interests?

>>sn't that racism to organize people based on skin color to advance their own racial interests?
The problem comes from believing that there are "racial interests". Ethnicity doesn't define our ideas. (Culture does; and ones culture may discriminate based on ethnicity, thus instilling certain ideas in people of such discriminated-against ethnicities...but it's a very dangerous thing to make the (invalid) logical leap from this, to the belief that people's ideas are determined by their race/ethnicity)

sh(A)ne

Sort-of an olive-tan color, with a hint of pink.

Why are you substituting "ideas" for "interests"?

>>Why are you substituting "ideas" for "interests"?
Good point -- I didn't notice that I did; though it doesn't change what I've said.

Our interests are determined by our ideology (our "ideas"), which, as I said, is influenced by our culture. Our culture is nothing more than a set of ideas held in common by the people we interact with.

Now, it's true that there are places we can look and see what some people might call "black culture", and that within that culture, people do have a set of common interests; but to assume that it's their dark skin that determines their interests, their values, etc, is the basis for some really scary lines of thought.

The "black culture" you see in these places isn't passed along through menalin! It's not the color of peoples' skin that determines their ideas/interests/values/etc. Though, in many cases, it's the fact that the people in power _believe(d)_ that dark skin was determinative of all of the above, that lead to the segregation that kept all the people with dark skin in a given area -- and that lead to the creation of a separate culture, through the evolution of the ideas shared within those communities. These prejudicial ideas are the same as the ones you hear expressed when people (often on sites like this one) say things like, "[Condoleeza Rice] [Colin Powell] [Thomas Sowell] [etc] isn't _really_ black." These are almost always the same people advocating for the "progressive" movement.

And that's a scary thought.

sh(A)ne

>>The "black culture" you see in these places isn't passed along through menalin
er -- or "melanin" either.

;)

This topic has nothing to do with SCAF.

They're trying to deal with the situation at hand, which is an increase in tensions between cultures in a specific context. Also, I would assume that SCAF is trying to do something to help people get beyond the inter-racial conflict, to find commonalities and unity across the cultural and racial (or "racial") divide.

Now you're crapping all over that with your meandering complaints that completely misunderstand the point.