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Rally Against the Minutemen!

by Border Raven Sunday, Oct. 30, 2005 at 7:48 PM
BorderRaven@aol.com

A case of desparation resorting to lies

In
http://laindymedia.org/calendar/event_display_detail.php?event_id=2847

We read:

"Rally Against the Minutemen!
Disrupt the Minutemen's Rally!
by: deanosor@comcast.net
Saturday, October 29, 10am
On the steps of the State Capitol, Sacramento, California

The Bay Area Coalition to Fight the Minutemen is mobilizing an action to
oppose the Minuteman Project's rally to gather public support for their
attempts to harass poor, undocumented border-crossers and to announce
their support of a new initiative that would establish a state border
police in addition to the existing federal border patrol. This rally will
take place in Sacramento on the Capitol steps on October 29th from 10am
to 12:30pm. It will feature the founder of the Minuteman Project, Jim
Gilchrist, and the legislative sponsors of the California Border Police
Initiative, amongst others. Governor Schwarzenegger has also been invited
to speak.

The Minuteman Project is seeking legitimization from the public and state lawmakers to give them authority to patrol the border with guns and they want taxpayers to pay for it. We at BACFM are outraged at the Minuteman Project's attempts to push their trigger-happy, racist ideologies that deny people their human rights to dignity, food, water, security and freedom of movement because of their class and skin color/nationality. We believe the Minuteman Project is a symptom of the problem of having borders between nations.

BACFM is calling on all groups opposed to the Minuteman Project and the Governor's support of the Minutemen to gather at the Capitol Steps to tell them that their vigilanteism will not be tolerated on the state border or in the state legislature "...

To correct this post:

The Minuteman, are a legitimate group of patriotic citizens, authorized and called forth by the US Constitution, to fullfill the duties of the failings governments.

The Minuteman, do not need for lawmakers to give them authority to patrol the border with guns,but if
taxpayers want to pay for it, they are not discouraged from donating or participation.

The Minuteman, are not trigger-happy or racist, and their ideologies come from belief in the US Constitution.

Would you please prove this in a court of law: "The Minuteman, deny people their human rights to dignity, food, water, security and
freedom of movement because of their class and skin color/nationality."

I believe the presence of unemployed men, some lacking proper documents for employment, congregating in our streets, is a symptom of the problem of having open-borders between nations, and governments failure to control immigration. These poor, undocumented border crossers, you mention, have to find food, water, money and sex, from some source, at sometime, so I guess you wouldn't mind accomodating them with yours.

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Pics

by pointer Monday, Oct. 31, 2005 at 8:32 AM

Click here:

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/1721346.php
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warning

by warning Monday, Oct. 31, 2005 at 9:49 AM

Click on SF links at your peril.
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"Click on SF links at your peril."

by heard it before Monday, Oct. 31, 2005 at 10:21 AM

blah, blah, blah:

http://pittsburgh.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/20821_comment.php#21101
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Speak English

by johnk Monday, Oct. 31, 2005 at 2:39 PM

BR, your writing is atrocius. What's your excuse?
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Over crowded schools

by A Mexican Thursday, Nov. 03, 2005 at 10:15 AM

Too many kids of illegals in our schools!!!
They are holding all english speaking American kids back.
Deport the parents, the kids and then Americans can geat the education that we deserve.
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re: Over crowded schools

by El Chivo Thursday, Nov. 03, 2005 at 11:48 AM

first we need to fix the U.S. foreign policy. do u know the U.S. multinationals corporation exploit people around the world that's why they come here.
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re: Over crowded schools

by El Chivo Thursday, Nov. 03, 2005 at 12:12 PM

the Minuteman/SOS are just a waste of time and energy. also they are useless.
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OK Chief

by AyatollahGondola Thursday, Nov. 03, 2005 at 12:54 PM
AyatollahGondola@Aol.com

Multinational corporations operating in foreign countries are operating under the rules set forth and enforced by their host countries. If what you are saying is true, and I am not disputing that, then are you asking Americans to intervene in those countries militarily or otherwise to force them to stop.
And just so we don't have to go back and forth on this one point, you were the one who stated that they were MULTI-national corporations, and as such means that they are not necessarily based here in the US.
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re: OK Chief

by El Chivo Thursday, Nov. 03, 2005 at 3:26 PM

...foreign countries are operating under the rules set forth and enforced by their host countries.

It may be true like 50-100 years ago not now. Now, the U.S. plays a big role with the free trade aggrements i.e. NAFTA, CAFTA, FTAA, etc. where labor's inexpensive, no rules on using children as labor. the corporations pays the people below the country's minium wage. Those agreements does not have any set rules of workers right, enivronmental rights, human rights, labor rights.

I said the U.S. multinational i didnt say solely a multinationals.
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Pick one chief

by AyatollahGondola Friday, Nov. 04, 2005 at 10:20 PM

You cannot have it both ways chieftan. Either they are multi-national or they are national. If they are US companies, then they are bound by US laws. If they are multinational, then they are bound by the laws in their host countries. And without the support of the people in those countries, they would not be able to do the things you are mentioning. If the people of Latin american countries are not fighting them there, why should we fight them here for them. Many of you blame the American people for being apathetic towards the large global corporations, yet the people you purport to be the victims have taken the same approach for many years longer than Americans have. If Multi-national countries have set up shop in America and several latin american nations as well; We are all the victims and no specific blame be allocated to either side for not responding strongly enough.
However, If your nest gets infected with fleas, your first line of defense should not be to move yourself into your neighbors.
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