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Minuteman Gilchrist called hypocrite by OC conservatives

by John Earl Wednesday, Oct. 19, 2005 at 1:14 PM
Orange County

OC Blog.net slams Minnuteman congressional candidate Jim Gilchrist for supporting Peter Camejo and desire to tax the wealthy.

For entertaining and informative reading on Minuteman Jim Gilchrist and John Campbell supporters go to http://www.ocblog.net/ocblog/2005/10/jim_gilchrist_v.html and read the numerous comments that follow the article below. Gilchrist. Witness the right and more right-wing battle it out in full ironic and hypocritial splendor.

Jim Gilchrist Voted For Peter Camejo for Governor

Jim Gilchrist, self-styled Reagan Republican, voted for Green party candidate Peter Camejo for Governor because he liked Camejo plan to tax "the ultra-wealthy." You can hear this startling admission from Gilchrist in this soundclip.

You can also hear a number of other odd, un-conservative statements by Gilchrist at OC Organizer -- such as his entertaining the possibility of a hybrid amnesty. It may be a left-wing website, but they didn't make Gilchrist say these things.

The Gilchrist candidacy just becomes more bizarre as his handlers try to sell the man as something he isn't, which is unfortunate for the popular upswelling against illegal immigration to the extent that Gilchrist becomes the public face of their movement.

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Hang with the Neo Cons these days?

by Anon Wednesday, Oct. 19, 2005 at 10:46 PM

What IS it with Republicans and taping phone conversations?

California's Invasion of Privacy Act prohibits the recording of "confidential communications" unless all parties to the conversation consent. The California lower courts have reached different conclusions about what constitutes a "confidential communication." Some have endorsed the view that "a conversation is confidential only if the party has an objectively reasonable expectation that the content will not later be divulged to third parties." Under this reading of the statute, a news source who knows he or she is talking to a reporter generally expects that the contents of the conversation will be disclosed -- unless there is a promise of confidentiality, of course. Thus a reporter would have been able to record such a conversation without first obtaining the source's consent.

The California Supreme Court rejected this definition, however, holding that a conversation is confidential if a party to that conversation "has an objectively reasonable expectation that the conversation is not being overheard or recorded," regardless of whether a reasonable person would expect the contents of that conversation to be divulged to others. The court remanded the case for further proceedings to determine the exact nature of the stepson's expectations regarding the recorded conversations.

Although the California case did not involve a media defendant, the ruling likely will be applied to reporters engaged in newsgathering. Under the new standard, the surreptitious recording of any conversation with a source -- even when the source knows he or she is talking "on the record" to a reporter -- may give rise to liability under California's Privacy Act if the source later can show that he or she reasonably believed the conversation would not be tape recorded. If everyone participating in the conversation consents to the recording, however, then the act does not apply.

Newspapers outside California but dealing with sources in the state on stories need to be alert to this ruling.

The Law Department is available to answer questions about how this new standard applies to newsgathering activities in California.

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Green Party At the John and Ken Show

by AnonMex Wednesday, Oct. 19, 2005 at 10:50 PM

Green Party At the J...
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Green Party

by anonmex Wednesday, Oct. 19, 2005 at 10:52 PM

Green Party...
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Green party photo

by John Earl Wednesday, Oct. 19, 2005 at 11:44 PM
Orange County

Well, it's not the cover of Rolling Stone, but what the hell?

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WOW

by mexicano Thursday, Oct. 20, 2005 at 12:38 PM

Bea Tiritilli must be proud.

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More pic

by Green Partyer Monday, Nov. 07, 2005 at 5:13 AM

More pic...
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Not Odd. JG is a Nationalistic Socialist

by johnk Monday, Nov. 07, 2005 at 6:05 AM

It's not that odd that Gilchrist would vote for a Green. He's got a socialist streak, but it's a nationalistic socialist streak. That would make him a "National Socialist", to some.

This is in contrast to Camejo, who is an internationalist socialist. Most people called socialist, communist, or anarchist, are internationalists (or anti-nationalists) who believe in a sibling-hood of humankind, human rights, and all that. They are generally opposed to nationalism, except as a challenge to ever-expanding capitalism, and as a tool to organize people to fight for self-determination (self-governance).

Nationalists like Gilchrist are primarily concerned with national identity, and oppose capitalism only when it encroaches on the well being of all people considered members of the nation. His definition of membership is "native born and immigrants with visas or residency".

To recap:

Socialism = "human rights" before corporate greed

National Socialism = "human rights for people we define as 'human'" before corporate greed

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Gilchrist victim

by JE Monday, Nov. 07, 2005 at 8:17 AM

This is what happens to people who listen to Jim Gilchrist for more than a few minutes. Luckily, I was strong-willed enough to snap out of it later!

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JBS

by El Chivo Tuesday, Nov. 08, 2005 at 6:56 AM

The American Independent Party/Constitution Party has a close ties with the John Birch Society. It's one wacky party. I guess this proved the point that Jimbo is a nutcase.

http://www.constitutionparty.com/

http://www.aipca.org/

http://www.jbs.org/

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