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DIRECT QUOTE FROM PUBLIC WEB FORUM FROM DON

Oldpreach Posted on: Mar 12 2005, 01:01 AM
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Hey , if anyone sees this before the event, I will be arriving at 8:05 at the metrolonk station about 1 mile from the home depot. If anyone can pick me up from there, plz call me on my cell anytime after 5:30 am . 818-601-8407. Looking forward to finally meeting you guys ! -- Don.
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I wanted to bum a ride to the protest that day...there were not nazi's there in rancho March 13th.

Also, from the SD site that I also own it seems....


Duane, I am sure its you...I guess you really have it out for me or something !

I have posted my phone # myself on indy before...not one call get , did I...as yoda would say.

Hey, I am in a REALLY silly mood again. I just can not get over the fact that I own LA indy, and now, looks like with your help, I own SD indy also ! I just love all the attention, as I had , well you know, one of those child hoods.....

You know , you could have just called me for an interview. Maybe we could have streamed it or something and called it, 'saveourstate big wig spillz all ! ' or something! Like I said, nothing to hide here. I have said again and again and ...well , you know the rest.

Like I said over at the LA indy, thanks for all the publicity ! Not that anyone but us activists and a few indy goons read it or anything, but i feel the love man! Esecially cool was you finding the old chess club page on the coffee machine site. Wow, brings back some memories! Yeah, me and Eduardo, really good friends with that Mexican child chess prodigy. Guess that proves I am a racist ! Just like my best fried from high school who just happened to be from south central and yes, black.

Just keep these facts in mind the next time you want to 'out' me or something.

1. I have, without a doubt , have hung around every 'minority' group there is, and many of my close personal friends in the past 25 years have been from every race, religion, and creed. One of my closest friends right now is of Asian decent. In short, I see only one thing, people. Race is simply meaningless to me. Only your side of the table is just OBSESSED with race, and therefore that is all you think in terms of.

2. I make friends with everyone! Including many of the indy goons! Yes, that is right, I love everyone. Helps to be Christian sometimes...but I digress. Therefore, I made friends with those that came up to me on the street that are not decked out in naziware. 'Hey, want to hold this flyer"?' someone asks. I say 'sure, I will get this end.' Gee , big time connecting the dots here. Just letting you know. I know you are trying to accomplish something, but this is really just the way it is. I do not care about the deep inner workings of every belief someone might have. I welcome all Americans's that come to me on the street untill such a time as they prove that I should not. If you are saying that I should consider even just standing there next to someone that has never told me their personal beliefs on white nationalism and such becuzz of what is posted on indy, all I can say is, you better have them with a swazi flag in their hand somewhere raising their hand to it or something. So far, you are not that convincing ! Yes, I have looked into your pics and such. It requires actual facts about individuals for me to consider something like this. Wow, what a concept! I demand what a court of law would demand! This makes me quite the evil one in some eyes around here...of course, this is coming from indy goons tha stand next to folks that spit on me, yell in my face with a bull horn, scratch my car when they can, blow whistles in my ear and such. Oh, I should really care or something ? Come on now.

3. # 2 leads to # 3...how coolio! Duane, you seem like a nice guy, but the folks on your side of the eq, many of them are just so full of hatered, I simply do not care what they think of me, especially when they do not bother to find out the facts by asking me.


This will all fizzle, my bo dizzle.

Hey, give me a ring a ling shing a ling sometime.

1. I doubt this was Duane, he always uses his real name.

2. I find it funny that you need absolute proof that someone is a nazi, but you will stand in front of a group of Mexicans looking for work and just assume that they are illegal. Seems like there is a double standard and the only difference is that one group is white and the other is not. And you say your not a racists. Kind of like Bush surrounding himself with Powell and Rice and saying, "See I don't hate black people, so now lets get ride of Affirmative Action, eliminate laws that protect against discrimination of black people, and promote racial profiling." Just being willing to be nice to people of color does not mean that you are not a racist. I heard people to say, "I have worked with black people..

Well, read them yourself....

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Re: Anyone else here have black friends?
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I haven't been friends with a black since I was about 8 years old. In my early teenage years, I began to see how these people really acted and found that it was futile to attempt to hold a meaningful conversation with any of them. Also, it would ALWAYS be one of them that would initiate a fight.
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I have worked along side of black people and non whites who were fine people who worked as hard at their job and treated them in a professional maner while at the work place. They knew my beliefs, and we treated each other with respect on the job, but during breaks, lunch and offtime there was no interaction.
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Same here. I work a warehouse job during the summers and am obligated to work alongside quite a few blacks. Most of them do work hard, but after work it's like we're from two different planets...which I prefer.
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I have to wonder why a WN would choose to have such people as close personal friends.

Before I became racially conscious I developed 3 non-white friendships, 2 of them with orientals and 1 with a mulatto. To this day I'm still friends with them despite them being cognizant of by beliefs.

White nationalism is about preservation and autonomy for our race. I don't see how this conflicts with friendships with non-whites. I would just prefer that these friends of mine didn't live in my country or any other white country for that matter.
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Don, what you have to realize is that racism is a state of mind. If you judge a person BECAUSE of their race, if you stereotype BECAUSE of their race, you are racist. You can even be friends with a person of a race you are racist against. That is why when SOS says that by having people from Mexico move here makes CA a cease pool is racist to its very core. I think the problem is simply that you don't understand what racism is. You don't have to want to kill someone to be a racist, you only need to stereotype them before you know them. That is the very reason you have a different standard of proof for the white nationalists than you do for day laborers.

About as shocking as the chess club membership

> the folks on your side of the eq, many of them are just so full of hatered,


This is one of the most common fallicies racists have - that people who simply support social justice MUST BE hateful like they are

They see us display strong emotions during protests and assume that's the tip of the iceburg - because with them it is

We are totally opposite - our day to day lives are calm, peaceful, loving and happy. Then, when in contact with hateful racists some of us become heated and show emotions - but after the protest is over we go back to our calm peaceful happy lives

They are constantly simmering with hate and unhappyness which they go out and protest to VENT, and INFECT other people with, they NEED easy scapegoats that they can safely HATE - racism fills a deep seated NEED for them

It allows dysfunctional people full of self-loathing, fear, anger and hate to function semi-successfully in society, otherwise they would be LOCKED UP in mental instiutions unable to find a target to take their own hangups out on...

Since such people lack the ability to see things through other's eyes (empathy) they automaticly assume *everyone else is like them*

And since they are full of hate they assume WE ARE TOO..

When in fact in closest we ever come to a hateful state of mind is BEING AROUND THEM

I for one specifically threw away the emotion of hate years ago as a child - it's been so long I don't even remember what hate feels like. I have a friend who becomes hateful when he's drunk and he's described it to me as ;

"I see red before my eyes and all I can think about is destroying that person. It takes over and I lose control"

The word "destroy" is very often used by hateful people - not only do they use it themselves as a coping mechanism, they attribute it to others as well ;

"You want to destroy me ?" I've had several trolls accuse me of - NO I don't want to do anything I tell them.

Destroy is a very strong word borne from very strong emotions - not "I want to slap you around" "I want to punch you in the nose" but -

I WILL DESTROY YOU

WE WILL DESTROY THEM

Words and statements like this show clearly the depth of the hate and how integrated hate is within a person.

Hate is so alien to me "destroy" is not even part of my vocabulary - even if I was really REALLY pissed off and got into a brawl, punching pushing and slapping would be the extent of it.

No destroying, no knives or guns.

The weapons these people carry around as security blankets reveal much about what their mental state is

My weapon is my brain, with my bare hands as backup - I won't be DESTROYING anybody...

So when people who want to destroy go around flinging hate mud on others who clearly don't even hate at all much less want to destroy, it's insulting.

The demonstrators are not "indymedia goons". They're counter protesters. Indymedia is just the outlet they use, because it's an established place to post photos, write reports, etc.

Indymedia is a small organization, and it's not like SOS. SOS's website is all about Joe Turner creating a general anti-immigrant movement by glomming onto the anti-illegal-immigrant sentiment. Indymedia doesn't organize the counter-protests, so, don't give Indy the credit, which belongs to a number of small organizations who call the counter-demonstrations.

Also, regarding "racism"... I think for some folks in SOS, this is going to be one of those "hindsight is 20/20" things, when people look back on this after a while, and realize that SOS was a racist group.

George Wallace didn't really think he was a racist when he was stumping for segregation, but later he realized he was. Malcom X, too, didn't realize that he was advocating a lot of violence and racial division, until after he went to Mecca and became aware of his own myopia.

The counter protesters will keep yelling until you come out of your slumber.