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by Anti-Racist
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 2:55 AM
A Quote from a Racist
Joe Turner:
'I can make the argument that just because one believes in white separatism that that does not make them a racist. I can make the argument that someone who proclaims to be a white nationalist isnt necessarily a white supremacist. I dont think that standing up for your "kind" or "your race" makes you a bad person.
I disagree with occutegirl on the issue of taking pride in ones race. There is nothing evil or sinister about being proud to be white. I am proud of who I am, where my forefathers before me came, our achievements and accomplishments as a people, etc. I am descended from a great people.
Just as I am incredibly proud of our achievements as a nation.
I am sick and tired of all the white bashing that goes on through the usage of political correctness as an indoctrinating tool. I am sick and tired of multiculturalism meaning, lets celebrate every culture as long as it isnt a european/white culture. It is okay to be proud of your race or culture or people (yada yada yada) as long as you arent white...if you are white, you need to be a guilt ridden self hater constantly lamenting your existence. To hell with that."
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Its time to show some multiculturlaism!!!! To HELL with these racists!!!!
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by racistjoe
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 3:55 AM
I disagree with occutegirl on the issue of taking pride in ones race. There is nothing evil or sinister about being proud to be white. I am proud of who I am, where my forefathers before me came, our achievements and accomplishments as a people, etc. I am descended from a great people.
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As he prepares to purge a dissenting member of SOS.
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by Hex
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 6:34 AM
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"Bring your bats fellas, if we are lucky, we are gonna need them...PING!"
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by johnk
Friday, Jul. 22, 2005 at 5:10 PM
The meaning of "pride" is contextual.
When most groups use the term "______ pride," it's mainly to signify that they aren't ashamed to be of that group. Normally, many people of color, especially in the working class, feel ashamed to "not be American enough". Say it loud, I'm black and I'm proud, was the statement of the 60s. Back then Black people were considered inferior and ugly, so, the declarations of Black Pride and Black is Beautiful were claiming a right to self-esteem.
POCs still use it, but, it's not the 60s anymore, and it's okay to be non-white, so, the declaration of "pride" can come off as "prideful" and arrogant. It's thought more than spoken, I think. When people feel okay about their color, they may say "yes, I have ____ pride." But it isn't a political movement.
The main group using the term "pride" today are gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people. Today, their declaration of pride is still a political statement, because there is still a lot of shame around being differently gendered. People still kill themselves because they're gay; a little pride goes a long way to saving lives.
"White pride" doesn't fit into this scheme I laid out. It comes off as "male pride" or "rich and proud" -- as arrogance.
There are people proud to be rednecks, proud to be Irish, Basque, Greek, Jewish, etc. They're proud to overcome the shame they're supposed to feel, being a minority, or losing a war, or something. But "white" isn't an ethnic group. It's a racial category, constructed partly by law, to empower White people and disempower Black people. There is nothing to be proud of in that.
(In contrast, think about "Asian pride." It means something in America, where there's negative prejudice, but if you're Japanese or Chinese, and you go to Japan or China, the right thing to do is put away the "pride" t-shirt and accept the historical burdens of imperialism with some humility.)
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by it\\'s important
Friday, Jul. 22, 2005 at 6:39 PM
it is good to have this info, but I was personally unable to find the citation on the SOS website
I have no doubt this is an accurate quotation, but the link is very important.
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by Hex
Friday, Jul. 22, 2005 at 7:04 PM
> think about "Asian pride." It means something in America, where there's negative prejudice
We have a restaurant called Azn pride
I worked at a Chinese restaurant called "House Of King" as a dishwasher (although I did a lot of food prep too)
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by BorderRaven
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 3:17 PM
BorderRaven@aol.com
Author: Anti-Racist
"Its time to show some multiculturlaism!!!! To HELL with these racists!!!!"
Lead the way.
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by Anti-Racist
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 4:34 PM
www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3480
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by This is not the link
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 8:37 PM
Try again, this isn't the link. We're not playing games here.
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by Hex
Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 at 9:58 PM
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by Fredric L. Rice
Sunday, Jul. 24, 2005 at 3:27 AM
frice@skeptictank.org
What's amusing is tyhat the white supremists apparently don't realize that normal people check their web sites and message boards. If this quote is legitimate -- I haven't seen a URL yet though I would expect the scumbags to scrub the embarrassing evidence from their web sites as soon as they realize it's embarrassing truth -- then it indicates that the racist scumbags are totally unaware that normal people can read what the racists really think.
Also you have to wonder what superior culture this racist scumbag is talking about. Would that be the White Power Christian culture that invaded an innocent country, has slaughtered over 100,000 innocent people, engages in rape of boys, torture, and war crime atrocities against humanity? That White Power Christian culture?
www.thedarkwind.org/
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by Anti-Racist
Sunday, Jul. 24, 2005 at 8:38 AM
It appears as if the search for articles option has been taken down on the SOS site. Further, I just went trough every page I brought up on that day, and some of the pages have been altered and/or removed. It appears that this post has been hidden or removed from their site. Feel free to email them the quote, as the webmaster will have it, even if it has been removed off the public site.
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by Fredric L. Rice
Sunday, Jul. 24, 2005 at 10:42 AM
frice@skeptictank.org
I see some rightard moron wants to pretend that those who point at racist hatred and bigotry are some how doing so erroniously -- while "forgetting" to point to any specifics.
In fact accurately pointing at what so many people do and calling it "racism" needs to be done a lot more.
This fascist regime's invasion and slaughter of Iraqi children is racism.
This fascist regime's arming, equipping, funding, and training of Israel to slaughter innocent Palisteinians is racism.
This fascist regime's arming, equipping, funding, and training of Pakistan so that terrorists can slaughter other brown-skinned people in Afghanistan and India is racism.
Parading around in the desert like a bunch of gay Elmer Fudds hunting Mexicans and pretending they're "defending America" is racism.
Fortunately most Americans -- the wide majority of them -- recognize these SOSMM National Vanguard buttfucks for the racist hate mongering Republican Christians they are.
www.thedarkwind.org/
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by Hex
Sunday, Jul. 24, 2005 at 10:53 AM
in my opinion Ned Lyle (BushAdmirer) is a childish homophobic who gets a woody when he calls his cable company and talks about gay sex obssesively and keeps calling back over & over
he collects homoerotic songs too
http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/neds_idea_of_fun.mp3
and the kobehq.com server has child porn on it *my spider revealed*
did Gary start his collection from YOU Ned ?
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by fresca
Sunday, Jul. 24, 2005 at 1:08 PM
"in my opinion Ned Lyle (BushAdmirer)"
"I just analysed the past 5 months of posts
My conclusion is ;
"kobe sbm" and "max" are the same person - ned lyle
"bush admirer", "nonanarchist" and "fresca" are the same person - jerry lawson
both are LGF patrons with a publicly stated purpose of disrupting and distroying IMC in any way possible, both are cheetoes warriors - developmentally disabled persons with too much time on thier hands and nothing better to do. (despite the "100.k a year" job claim on ned's part)
Author: Hex anon w/ encryption
Link:
Posted: Thursday January 08, 2004 12:16 AM"
Christ you are truly a fucking moron. Not only can you not hit the broadside of the barn with your pathetic "datamining" but you're actually too stupid to NOT contradict yourself over and over again on the same forum.
Here you say BA is Ned Lyle and of course, you've identified him as completely other people in the past as seen below. Same with pretty much everyone you try and ID. FAce it you fucking dummy, there's simply no possible way for you to even remotely come close to actually id'ing anyone unless they pretty much spell it out for you.
You truly are a loser.
Question: Do you actually believe on any level that anyone here, even clear schizophrenics like sheepdog read and believe your assinine attempts at cyber sleuthing. Don't you get the idea AT ALL that you're simply a figure of fun around here?
It's sad really.
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by fresca
Sunday, Jul. 24, 2005 at 11:01 PM
Not going to respond to this embarrassing clock cleaning?
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by Humbolt County
Monday, Jul. 25, 2005 at 12:40 AM
In these PC times its supposed to be taboo to be proud to be White but its perfectly fine to tout that you are a Chicano. Notice how you see all these racist Latino bumper stickers, t-shirts, flags etc, everywhere? Somehow, this is not percieved to be racist by the media or general populace but the minute you change the race to "White" then it becomes racist. What a crock of shit.
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by Hex
Monday, Jul. 25, 2005 at 4:37 AM
oh the joys of selective memory
I already explained it in another thread - do you actually think I spend my time responding to every post you make - especially when you intentionally distort and confuse the facts ?
now now - you can prick your finger but don't finger your prick !
what's the matter Fresca - do you have finger envy ?
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