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by Randy Grant
Wednesday, Mar. 23, 2005 at 5:10 PM
More evidence of a government plot to bring down the Twin Towers.
The Perfect Terrorist Plan To Level The Twin Towers Created In 1976
Prison Planet.tv | March 21, 2005
Comment: If completely confirmed 100% then this is THE smoking gun, over and above Northwoods, the NORAD stand down, the explosives in the buildings, any other piece of 9/11 evidence. It's going to be interesting to see how they pass this one off as a 'coincidence' - we need to get this on newswires immediately. This is the straw that could break the camel's back.
American Free Press | March 20, 2005 By Greg Szymanski
Our own U.S. Army devised a plan commissioned by Congress to bring down the WTC using commercial airliners and box cutters as weapons.
The laundry list of terrorist warnings handed to the Bush administration prior to 9/11 makes the President and others look like "bumbling idiots or a bunch of conniving criminals" responsible for the mass murders at the Twin Towers and in Afghanistan and Iraq.
These are the harsh words of Timothy McNiven, an outspoken critic of the President's handling of 9/11 and a 29-year U.S. Defense Department operative still under contract with the government.
He says not only did the Bush administration purposely ignore Al Q'aida in the months preceding the WTC attacks, but the situation is even more disturbing, considering his military unit way back in 1976 devised a mock terrorist attack of the Twin Towers exactly like what occurred on 9/11.
McNiven, who first went public in an affidavit included in a 9/11-related federal conspiracy (RICO) lawsuit filed against Bush and others in 2004, claims his unit was ordered to create the "perfect terrorist plan" using commercial airliners as weapons and the Twin Towers as their target.
The publicized version of the study, commissioned by Congress, was to identify security lapses and submit corrective measures to lawmakers. However, McNiven claims the real purpose of the study was to brainstorm how to pull off the perfect terrorist attack using the exact same 9/11 scenario.
The study, commissioned to C-Battery 2/81st Field Artillery, U.S. Army, stationed in Strassburg, Germany in 1976, specifically devised the scenario of the Twin Towers being leveled by Middle Eastern terrorists using commercial airliners and even plastic box cutters to bypass security.
To silence critics, McNiven has successfully passed a credible lie detector test regarding his participation in the study as well as other specific orders given to him by his superiors in case of a real attack on the Twin Towers.
The head of the 1976 mock terrorist plan was Lt. Michael Teague of Long Island, who McNiven says was given specific orders by higher-ups in the military to use the Twin Towers as the terrorist target.
McNiven said he has been unable to contact Lt. Teague, but was interested in his opinion now that "the 9/11 attacks happened the way we planned them in 1976."
"I remember Lt. Teague changed the scenario of the supposed study from a 100 story building to the Twin Towers," recalled McNiven, emphasizing that Lt. Teague was acting on specific orders from unknown superiors.
"He then said he thought it was very strange to be asked to devise a plan to blow up your own home town. But as I watched the Twin Towers really collapse on the morning of September 11th, I realized I was watching the very same thing we devised in the 1976."
Since that ominous realization, McNiven has devoted his entire life to alerting the American public about the similarities between 9/11 and the 1976 study without much success, his story basically being ignored by politicians and the mainstream media.
"Why am I doing this? Why have I spent every waking hour trying to bring this story to the American people?" asked McNiven, claiming he still is following a strange direct military order given to him more than 25 years ago.
"During the course of the terrorist plan we were devising, I made the statement to Lt. Teague that if the WTC was ever attacked like we planned, I'd go public. I was then physically assaulted and told never to reveal anything we were doing regarding the Twin Towers."
However, about a week later a strange turn of events occurred. For no apparent reason, McNiven claims his superiors completely changed their minds.
"I was given the direct order that if the Twin Towers were ever attacked the way we discussed in the 1976 study, I was to do everything in my power to bring the similarities to the attention of the American people.
"I have no idea why they changed their minds, but I was then emphatically told that this order was never to be rescinded - never - because those who would rescind it, would be the very same people who turned against the American people."
Besides taking a lie detector to verify his story, McNiven has made public a detailed list of about 40 names of those individuals who took part in the mock terrorist plan, including Col. Robert Morrison, Maj. Joe Dipiero, Sgt. Middleton, Sgt. Arroyo and many others.
"There were also people from the Defense Department and the CIA who were monitoring the study, but I wasn't able to get their names," he added.
Some of McNiven's most recent assignments with the Defense Department include work on the Northwest Drug Task Force and various other drug smuggling and weapons trafficking cases.
www.prisonplanet.com
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by and what's more!
Wednesday, Mar. 23, 2005 at 11:02 PM
They also came up with the whole Chemtrails deal too!
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by Norma[l]!!!
Wednesday, Mar. 23, 2005 at 11:41 PM
He was interviewed on Alex Jones. He sounded very convincing but I wonder if the people involved are safe with all these suicides -coff- and all. Operation Northwoods with more refinement. Or arrogance.
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by Really?
Thursday, Mar. 24, 2005 at 7:55 AM
"He was interviewed on Alex Jones. "
I'll just bet he was.
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by G Bargle M Galls
Thursday, Mar. 24, 2005 at 9:46 AM
Not like that Washington press club guy, Gannon.
You have to have certain standards.
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by AK
Wednesday, Jan. 11, 2006 at 12:54 AM
I have read scholarly articles implying that the Israeli intelligence agency, aka Mossad, knew before 9/11 that the attacks were going to occur. Also, don't you find it a little interesting that 3,000 jewish employees did not go to work in the World Trade Center that day? This given, as well as the Mossad's much deeper entrenched intelligence operatives inside terrorist organizations, which are sadly much more extensive than our C.I.A's, makes this theory very probable or possible. Now what incentive would our "ally" have to allow a terrorist attack on a fellow ally? I can think of many motives. Plunge the U.S. into a much more active stance on war on terror? Solidify that terrorist activity is a large national security issue? Give us a taste of what they're going through to help them??? Perhaps the Mossad was even involved in our own governments shortcommings in the prevention of the attack. Maybe they have operatives in our own government....Who knows? Just a different perspective I thought of after I read this article. Being a U.S. Marine, I could not imagine a fellow American that would be capable of allowing such tragic attack on our soil. I hope I am right.
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by fresca
Wednesday, Jan. 11, 2006 at 6:30 AM
"Also, don't you find it a little interesting that 3,000 jewish employees did not go to work in the World Trade Center that day?"
Do you have any idea how incredibly stupid you sound when you echo a blatant cyber myth such as that one?
Come on. Do you actually believe that?
You've got to take your head out of your ass and stop believing every nonsensical conspiracy theory that flashes on your screen.
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by skeptic
Wednesday, Jan. 11, 2006 at 7:43 AM
That includes the official conspiracy theory.
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by Pete O Really
Wednesday, Jan. 11, 2006 at 8:16 AM
As we all know, the only conspiracy theory that is without rational support *is* the official conspiracy theory. Eyes rolling, drool dripping and nose picking as it stands. The big problem is that not enough people want to be sheep. There is that irritating tendency to question stupidity. Like the 19 savage arab hypothesis. Without even the flimsiest realistic evidence that would not be laughed out of any court.
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by fresca
Wednesday, Jan. 11, 2006 at 8:37 PM
Hey gang, knock yourself out. No one's saying you have to believe the nineteen arab savage version. Um, you can pretend it was Santa Claus.
But actually believing that 3000 Jews didn't show up for work that day requires a particularly low IQ or at least the willingness to pretty much belive in any missive that the purveyors of fine cyber nonsense toss your way.
Idiots.
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by AK
Thursday, Jan. 12, 2006 at 12:36 AM
Like I said, I read it in an article. I'm a truth seeker not a conspiracy chaser. If I was truly naive to believe a false article (which by the way was incredibly forged to look legitimate), than I admit my mistake. But to call me an idiot? Is that truly necessary? I'm not a nazi and I do not have any hatred against Jews. I am a UCLA student and a US Marine and I happen to have many Jewish friends. The story seemed like it would make sense since our own CIA has done many immoral things in history to achieve our own national interests. If you guys know I'm wrong.....go ahead and correct me, if I knew that my comment was false I would never post it, but there is no need for disrespect. I highly believe in the concept of honor and integrity.....I suggest you practice those virtues for your own sake.
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by Meyer London
Thursday, Jan. 12, 2006 at 11:50 AM
I've heard that story but have never seen a scrap of evidence that Jewish employees were warned not to come to work. How could that be done, anyway? What about people named Miller, for example. They could be Jews or non-Jews. And how would you tell for certain whether a person's name was Yiddish rather than German or Polish? A less ridiculous rumor is the one that the Mossad warned Israeli businesses and offices to close down that day. Even if that happened, I doubt that it would result in 3,000 people not showing up at work.
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by fresca
Thursday, Jan. 12, 2006 at 9:37 PM
" But to call me an idiot? Is that truly necessary?"
No it wasn't and I apologize.
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by Victor
Friday, Jan. 13, 2006 at 9:00 AM
It takes time to work out the mechanics of treason. Huge endeavors like Sept 11 take time to work out. So damn many details. And of course money to be in a position to be made. And the media preparation to get the population, in most respects, to swallow it. Without the closed media, it would not have become possible to pull it off.
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by fresca
Friday, Jan. 13, 2006 at 6:52 PM
" Without the closed media, it would not have become possible to pull it off."
Except that there is obviously no evidence that anything other than a group of muslim barbarians attacking us, yet again, occurred.
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by Poter Gross
Friday, Jan. 13, 2006 at 7:22 PM
Actually, any evidence that your '19 savage arabs' did it, All the evidence brought forth so far appears to have been 'salted' without any verifiable chain of evidentiary custody. And is not supportable. Not in any court of law.
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by fresca
Friday, Jan. 13, 2006 at 7:40 PM
" Not in any court of law."
Perhaps. So what. That doesn't make it any less clear and truthful.
No serious person questions the fact that 9-11 was clearly the work of islamic savages. Even the far, far lefts' most beloved spokesholes like Chomsky, Goodman, Fisk et.al. don't disagree. Not to mention the many taped and videotaped (which are obviously not faked as the con theory fools will quickly spew) confessions and boastings from the islamist sect.
No. To disbelieve that 9-11 was the work of arab koranimals is simply denial and foolishness rolled into one.
But, if that's the fantasy that moves you, by all means, keep that warm glow of delusion on for yourself.
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by look @ it
Friday, Jan. 13, 2006 at 7:48 PM
"" Not in any court of law." Perhaps. So what. That doesn't make it any less clear and truthful. "
This is what is called retarded. We have law and courts to protect the people from this kind of vigilante lynchmob mentality. 'fresca' seems to be the uncivilized savage.
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by fresca
Friday, Jan. 13, 2006 at 9:56 PM
So, if something can't be proven in a "court of law" than it just palin doesn't exist or didn't happen right?
That's some mighty fine critical thinkin' you got there sir.
If a "court of law" is the final barometer of truth, why is a scumbag like mumia still alive? What's OJ doing free?
9-11 conspiracy theorists and muslim apologists/deniers are some of my very favorite people. fascinating and endlessly amusing.
I should be ashamed. Having so much fun with someone's mental illness.
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by Freedumb of choice
Saturday, Jan. 14, 2006 at 10:11 AM
That's why we like you, 'fresca' you indeed provide brief moments of amusement as you invariably resort to your little final line of retreat. Scuttling into your padded cell.
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by AK
Saturday, Jan. 14, 2006 at 11:22 PM
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by wayback machine
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 2:17 AM
Shortly after the PNAC document was published, links to it circulated on the anti-war and leftist email lists. This was not too long before 9/11. By the time Afghanistan was bombed, many people I met at anti-war demos were aware of PNAC, to the point where "have you heard of PNAC" was almost some kind of litmus test to see if you really knew what was up. (That, and stratfor were the hip info to know... and stratfor exposed the lies too... before becoming another annoying apologist for the Bush Admin.)
By 2002, even the right wing isolationists were starting to bring it up on their sites. By the time Bookman's story (linked) was published, it was "old news" to anti-imperialist and leftist news-junkies. The war machine and its house organs were blaring out the propaganda for hours at a time, and, anti-war demos of millions of people were getting 2-3 minutes on the news.
Even the loyal opposition, the Dems, went along with the plan, defending their actions with the excuse that they had secret info that helped them make better decisions.
The wisest folks were slandered, or ignored.
If you want a real laugh, or cry, go to their site again, newamericancentury.org, and read their excuses for invading Iraq.
www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=15&ItemID=2412
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by fresca
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 9:38 AM
"PNAC was known in 2001"
And yet, it's utterly irrelevant to the fact that 9-11 was the work of islamic savages.
Clearly.
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by Allah&Ackbar
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 10:21 AM
Clearly the work of .......................You are right. Damned al-CIAduh.
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by Just the Facts, Mam...
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 10:55 AM
Ossoma denied any involvement in the Sept 11 attacks, on the 18th of Sept. And all the rude video forgeries afterwards to convince us otherwise were truly embarrassing. They don't like to bring that up because they were declared forgeries by independent labs. Like the Nick Berg beheading. Christ, can't these cloak and dagger types do anything right?
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by fresca
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 5:00 PM
"And all the rude video forgeries afterwards to convince us otherwise were truly embarrassing. They don't like to bring that up because they were declared forgeries by independent labs. Like the Nick Berg beheading. Christ, can't these cloak and dagger types do anything right?"
Please post some evidence from an actual credible source that backs up these assertions. Especially the beheading videos.
Here's your chance. Unleash some of this huge amount of lie-exposing evidence you schizophrenics claim to have.
This oughta be great.
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by For the Reader
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 6:33 PM
It's easy copy and paste to your search engine Nick +Berg +beheading +fake Have fun. fresca can do it, so can you.
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by AK
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 8:09 PM
Here is a better recomendation... Instead of typing anything in to your favorite search engine which can pop up anything whether fake or legitamate. Try going to google and pressing the Scholor option. If it does not pop up on the first webpage, click on "More" and you will see the option. This search engine option searchs legitamate articles written by professors, well-known newspaper/journalism agencies, as well as government agencies.
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by Sheep feces
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 8:10 PM
Once again Sheepshitferbrains, that Krakatoa of intellect, shows it's stupidity. We're supposed to visit all those Leftist sewers and take what we see as truth? By the way, Brainiac - the plane hitting the towers were holograms. Just thought you'd like to know. http://indypgh.org/news/2003/10/10060.php
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by fresca
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 8:46 PM
"It's easy copy and paste to your search engine Nick +Berg +beheading +fake "
It's truly amazing to me that in the midst of a thread where this asses head is being handed to him for his inane 9-11 conspiracy theory fantasies, that he'd continue barrelling forward and actually suggest that any source brought up by a google search (with the likes of rense.com and similiar outright nonsense sites) would be credible.
the amazing thing is that it IS credible to this fool and the other idiots who belive this kind of silliness.
9-11 conspiracies involving remote controlled airplanes, "dancing Israelis" and phony stories of stock exchange irregularities, rockets hitting the Pentagon INSTEAD of remote controlled airplanes, all video evidence and confessions are , of course, faked.
The list of garden variety conspiracy theory strategems and symptoms goes on and on. Give it a few more days and you can bet Sheepdog will start trying to work "chemtrails" and his nefarious "New World Order" into the mix.
Here's the deal. 9-11 was the work of islamic troglodytes. Every sensible and serious person in the world accepts that. These fools, for whatever reason, can't get their heads around it. Either they're simply naive and have missed decades of similar islamic attacks; they're just pissed off at the US and/or Israel or rich white guysin general and need to blame them or they're just plain schizophrenic and live in a very different reality bolstered by all manner of cyber fantasy and hucksterism. Whatever the case they're just glassy eyed bots spouting the same lines and when refuted resort to the time honored and predictable tactic of simply claiming the evidence is "fake". There is simply no eveidence (except for that concieved in a bad chemical mind) that the MANY videotaped confessions and boastings from bin laden et.al and (I can't beleive I even have to say it) the Nick Berg video are phony. Obviously, the only reason they MUST be faked is that they refute the schizophrenia.
And so it goes. The internet breeds and nurtures this particular strain of mental illness. Rense and Alex Jones and all the rest of the vanity/fantasy sites cater to this fring and ultimately fleece them.
Meanwhile, the rest of the world goes on. Not trusting the powers that be any more then they do but managing to not give into the seductive comfort of sheer mental illness and paranoia.
By the way, the "scholar" option of Google brought up absolutely NOTHING regarding the fake Nick Berg video.
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by AK
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 9:06 PM
Please do not take this as an insult people, but if you want your opinions to be respected, you should not use name-calling (including insulting by using mental or psychological disorders). There is no need for mud-slinging in an intellectual discussion.
My take on politics is that it is all bullshit. The President would never go against what his Chief of Staff and Cabinet recommends to him. In other words, I believe it is nonsense to blame him for Iraq, if Clinton was in office, he would have done the same thing. Think about it, do you people actually believe that anyone with the responsibility of the Executive Branch would go against the advice of experts in the military, intelligence, international relations, etc.? Yes I know....the President appoints his own cabinet...but do you think he is stupid enough to appoint morons? Why would anyone want to become the President of the USA? I think to go down in history as someone who did the right thing for our nation and the world, and I hope I am right for all of our sakes.
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by k-
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 11:00 PM
And such a fit some of you are having.
The Nick Berg affair was just a sample of hamfisted public relations and a debacle as it universally is viewed as a fake.
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by AK
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 11:13 PM
Try the "Scholar" option and search under it....if it doesn't show up on the regular google page, hit "More" and it will show up. Then search for any subject you want, give it a shot....it's been good to me so far.
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by Gazunthiet
Tuesday, Jan. 17, 2006 at 9:05 AM
Since the question of CIA arranged psyops and other government debacles... Forgive the side journey into some of the mechanics of deception. http://aztlan.net/berg_abu_ghraib_video.htm or http://topplerummy.org/berg/ Found it on another search engine other than Goolge. I don't trust Google as they censor URLs.
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by AK
Tuesday, Jan. 17, 2006 at 9:05 PM
What search engine do you suggest? Since Google "censors" urls? (BTW have u tried the scholar option???? And how am I to know that your search engine is not censoring..... Could be just another rumor floating around??Just another conspiracy theory?? I personally can't believe that Google would do that since it is a private corporation and any censorship involving government influence would raise hell since URL's being censored would raise hell. Google is by far the largest and most popular search engine, any type of censorship involving such a large and influential corporation would be prime meat for the media vultures.... I am not contradicting you, just bringing up questions about the validity of your statement. Please correct me if I am wrong and endulge us all on the "reliable" source that gave you this impression.
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by AK
Tuesday, Jan. 17, 2006 at 9:14 PM
I checked out your site that tries to claim that the video was a fake.... First off, NO ONE in the military is allowed to wear a cap indoors. It is standard procedure to wear it as soon as you step outdoors, and take it off as soon as you step indoors. This is coming from a person in the military. Second. If you notice the color of the wall it is a brighter shade of the "military cap", the image can easily be mistaken as a optical illusion which looks like the shape of a "military cap" and is actually a shadow displaced onto the wall, hence creating the change of color...
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by fresca
Tuesday, Jan. 17, 2006 at 10:32 PM
Beyond the fact that there is absolutely no credible evidence that the Berg video is faked, there are other common sense reasons to render such a conspiracy theory a rather silly one.
First of all, why fake a video of a phenomenom (the beheading of a hostage by islamic savages) which occurs so frequently to begin with? certainly there's no real reason to fabricate something that occurs naturally with such frequency.
Secondly, if someone did want to fake it as a "false flag" why choose a victim who's hardly sympathetic. By all accounts he was in Iraq for, at best, finacial gain. He wasn't some human rights activist or altruistic journalist.
But the fact that the only "evidence" is , of course, found from all the usual cyber subjects, is enough to land this assertion squarely in the laughably dumb conspiracy theory file.
Right alongside 9-11 remote controlled airplane attacks, dancing Israeli's, faked islamist confession tapes and "chemtrails".
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by cease and desist
Wednesday, Jan. 18, 2006 at 10:30 AM
certainly there's no real reason to fabricate something that occurs naturally with such frequency.
You're using logic and common sense, and that is not allowed amongst the "intellectuals".
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