The Iraqi bastard regime is preparing now the public opinion in order of their masters for american and jewish military actions agains Iran, the main enemy of their US masters and the criminal mass murder Sharon. By the words of the puppet regime minister of defence Hazim al Shaalan the Iran is the still "Main enemy of Iraq". Iran is trying to kill our "Democracy" this traitor swine claimed. A dirty puppet dictatorship propagandized by it's masters as democratic led by a minority of corrupt Iraqi criminal vultures to bear down again the shiite mayority while thousands of jewish myrmidons using Iraq as outpost closer to Iran as a base for Israeli intelligence operations. You only have to read the PNCA Protocol written by fascist and jewish US bastards to understand the raid of Afganistan and Iraq as a part of a holy war. This nations have been primary invaded for a strategic encircle of Iran for the final slaughtering of the american main enemy, the Iranian goverment (approved in a plebiscite with 98 percent in 1979 after a revolution agianst the US puppet regime used to embank the russian influence) which kicked out the US puppet Shah Reza Pahlavi. For punishment the US sleaze replied quickly and incited their new hired stooge Saddam Hussein within one year to cancel border treaty and to declare open war in 1980 which finalized in a bestial US proxy war in 1982 till 1988 fully backed and supplied with chemical weapons by US bastards. But today first they have to break clear their myrmidon troops quickly as possible and so it is comprehensible that they use such bestial methods to liquidate the Iraqi resistance close together with their installed murderous Iraqi puppet regime. And even if the fake democrat bastard Kerry, the ideal candidate of Sharon fully supported by the jewish kingmaker-lobby, will win the elections this plan will not be stopped as sure as fate. A canting Democrat whose false party on it's idiot's parade in Boston yesterday has cunning removed the corporate logo of Aljazzera, the sign of free media in middle east. Kerry is the same dirty bastard like mass murder Wanker Bush just not so horrific sappy and what a farce much of simple minded Americans are still believe this cur is the redeemer for reputation and honor (clean killing and pillage without sexist torture scandals). This jewish marionette will drive forward all these dirty machinations just in a sneaky way using the unwilling European sheeps for their murderous imperial intentions optimally useable for Israeli myrmidons and their expansion plans of Grand-Israel. In his last declarations this cur will neither abandon from pre-emptive wars nor withdraw any US myrmidon from Iraq because of national oil interest and he will not end the fake War on Error but as urgent mission he will restore the reputation of this glory raid nation. Needless to say that this snaky wryneck fully supported the armed raids against Afghanistan and Iraq based on dirty lies. This is a murderous nation of assholes and it will be one. The sick imperial dream is not over, not with fasicist Bush Bastard Regime and also not with the jewish stooge Kerry. If the time is ripe they will push the escalation button like before the raid on Iraq and the public opinion will be prepared within one month for the next "glory war of freedom"

"The preparation for US invasion of Iran goes according to plan"

Oh, if it were only true.

Fresca wants bodies of dead muslems, christians and jews covering the ground, hanging out of windows and burning in piles. All of them, men women and children.

I just want the arab/islamic world to evolve. Whatever it takes.

A small, neat kick in the head of Iran and Syria may just jump start the process. Who can tell?

If anybody needs it it's you. Has anyone told you that you are a brain damaged moron with a severe personality disorder? If not, NOT BLOODY LIKELY; let me be the first one.

but that would be picking on a cripple. Oh and to the original post, not all jews are rabid pig fucking zionists. Just the ones who think they have a written pass from god to kill anyone who lives on the land they want for themselves.

Don't go gettin' yourself all worked up.

And stop pretending that you have such a deep compassion for these savages that would gladly cut off your head and eat it, given the chance.

All I'm talking about is a little invasion. Nothing fancy. Just some softening from above and a little needed occupation until these folk show some sort of sign of progress.

You know, until they stop beheading each other, raping and slaughtering women or trying to kill every Jew or American who breathes.

"but that would be picking on a cripple. Oh and to the original post, not all jews are rabid pig fucking zionists. Just the ones who think they have a written pass from god to kill anyone who lives on the land they want for themselves."

Fair enough, but what about the arabs who are occupying the Israeli teritories of the West Bank and Gaza and killing anyone who doesn't accept their crazy notion of history.

Are they "arab pigs"?

There won't be peace until we ALL help end the arab occupation of Israel.

that would be Washington DC. And anywhere else the pig fuckers want for their own. Funny thing but these 'Israelis' you keep mentioning. A made up race for international pirates. Well, like most Americans are.

Oh, I fully understand that you hate Jews and America. No news there, but I'm actually a bit surprised that your history is so suspect that you actually believe the myth of these "palestinians" your bunch always goes on about and how that somehow land that Israel got from Egypt, Syria and Jordan is now magically "palestine".

Funny how that works.

fresca,

stop wasting your time arguing. these numbfucks are a lost cause.

fresca, unlike yourself, I don't have a problem with any people or country. It the assholes in it who believe they are fooling anyone else when they cover murder and theft with lies and hate that I detest.

Twist it any way you want. I'd still pity you for your weakness.

No profanity.

I wonder where KPC is anyhow? Haven't seen him for a few days.

....what, speak of profanity and I come to mind?

...now, dog, you know you shouldn't dig in the shitpile, it just kicks up more stink....

...but I must admit, it is a laugh watching it try to knit reasoned rhetoric from that shabby yarn of hate it carries around...the only thing missing is a typed "(*sigh*)" after every racist spew....

...but you ARE profane. That's okay.

..aw, fucks...

...oops, I mean "shucks"....

"try to knit reasoned rhetoric from that shabby yarn of hate it carries "

But I'm not the one still hating Jews while fantasizing about some mythical place called "palestine" and the gentle people therein. Is it anywhere near Atlantis?

Now come on...both of you...more talk of these dirty Jews and their US Backed war on the noble peoples of the innocent islamic world.

...da shitpile lying again, what a surprise....

...find a single anti-semetic comment I have ever made to support your tired-ass canard, shitpile...

...let me give you a clue; just because I see through your racist bullshit doesn't mean I hate Jews...I know your logic for some reason continues to lead you there, burt what can I say? You're just one fucked up pile of shit!

But I'm not the one still hating Arabs while fantasizing about some mythical place called "israel" and the gentle people therein. Is it anywhere near Atlantis?

Okay children, gather around and I'll make this clear for all of you. I can tell you're all a bit upset and frustrated. I understand. It's your nature.

When you all fall all over yourselves to denounce Jews in Israel as "pig fucker zionists" for defending themselves... that's blatant hate.

When you categorically deny or excuse the violence committed by arabs against Jews...that's blatant hate.

When you deny the atrocities committed against Jews by Islamic states...that's blatant hate.

When you condemn Israel for wanting to create and defend a Jewish state yet defend and support any and all despotic Islamic states...that's blatant hate.

When you claim to care so much about the "palestinians" and the "oppression" they suffer at the hands of the "pig fucker zionists" yet deny any and all arab on arab violence (Hama?)...that's blatant hate.

Whine and moan all you want. The record is ridiculously clear. The entire lot of you simply hate Jews and America. This nonsense about only hating Israel's policies and not Jews is just that...nonsense. If it wasn't you'd pipe up about abuses to other arabs..not just some newly minted group calling themselves "palestinians" and wanting to return to their "ancestral" homeland which was actually parts of three entirely distinct countries and cultures in 1967.

You know as well as I do that you're support of the "palestinians" is only a trendy and convenient way to hate Jews but still get invited back to the politically correct handwringing parties and marches you all thrive on.

If Israel disappeared today and these "palestinians" were being rounded up and shot by Syria or Jordan (which has already happened plenty) you all'd go mute.

I will admit this. I truly love coming on here and having the opportunity to lay into and belittle all you small sad losers. Masguerading your obvious racism as concern for these "poor oppressed palestinians". Pathetic.

I'll alaso admit that I absolutely HATE those who want to kill me. As it stands, over the last few decades, the only group of people who have systematically organized to attack America have been muslims. Not all of them but certainly enough to see a pretty clear pattern.

So yeah, I'll admit it. I hate arab muslims who want to blow up around me or in a crowded bus full of Jews, or Indonesians, or Egyptians or Iraquis or ....

Anyway, that's enough for you idiots for now. I doubt that KPC will even be able to read this much. I don't have him pegged for all that bright. Sheepdog will probably stew a bit and post some non sequitor about vipers or some other typical nonsense.

But deep down I have you losers nailed.

That's not hate, that's fear.

Some advice:

Wear your enemy's shoes and see through their eyes.

Realize what an incredible hypocrite you are when the things you say can so effortlessly be turned around at you with the substitution of a few key words. Jews for Arabs. Zionists for Palestinians. Israel for Palestine.

Have your diapers changed, stinky.

...but I must admit, it is a laugh watching it try to knit reasoned rhetoric from that shabby yarn of hate it carries around...the only thing missing is a typed "(*sigh*)" after every racist spew....

I can take a shit and hit a bitter black man. "IT BE RASSISMS!"

Sorry, knee-grow, but Whitey wasn't put on this earth to please or take care of you.

Learn to speak real English, get a fuckin' job and stay off the crack rock.

It's pointless to debate with someone like MM who doesn't even comprehend the criticism you're levelling. Like a moth to a flame, he saw the word "racism", assumed that was the gist of your criticism, and resorted to racist mockery as some kind of rebuttal.

MM - his main point is that you're not very smart, or much of a debater, not that you're a racist.

By the way, you are a racist.

"Realize what an incredible hypocrite you are when the things you say can so effortlessly be turned around at you with the substitution of a few key words. Jews for Arabs. Zionists for Palestinians. Israel for Palestine.

"

Am I a hypocrite? Absolutely I am on some subjects. I claim to be a baseball purist but defend the DH. I claim to be concerned about animal rights and welfare yet I fish alot.

But concening the middle east...absolutely not.

I realize that the problem is a two way street.

You don't or at least you won't admit it. You constantly put the entire blame for all of the arab worlds problem squarely on the backs of Jews. Now why is that? Why doesn't "palestine" have any responsibility for the continued violence? Why hasn't the rest of the arab world be held accountable for systematically scapegoating and teaching the hate of Jews?

Again, it all comes down to a very transparent prejudice you obviously have toward Jews. It's not like you're the first you know. People like you have been around forever.

And for the record, I'm not even remotely Jewish. But I am fascinated with the sheer hate that hides on the far left and it shows itself nowhere near as bright as it does with all your hatred of Jews.

then Veteran ll was correct. You want dead people everywhere. Your life is a cup of bitter ashes. Have someone pull the plug on your life support.

Sheepdog, you're trailing off into carzy gibberish again.

Your incoherence is alarming.

Now, what the hell are you trying to say? Something about the arabs in Israel being equally responsible for the problem?

...so, not being able to support your lie that I am an anti-semite, you revert to a long winded babble and claim superiority....

...what a fuckin' loser...don't hafta be too bright to figure that out...

...but, that's OK shitpile, you just sit back feelin' all smug....but just remember...

shitpile: "So yeah, I'll admit it. I hate arab muslims"

...while you falsely accuse others of anti-semitism, YOU are the one who is the admitted racist.

Beyond the fact that I have irrefutable proved that you are clearly a racist scumbag, as every point I enumerated applies to you and has been illustrated in your many ham fisted posts, I will point out another example of your ineptitude at evn your favorite sport of misinformation and fantasy weaving.

"So yeah, I'll admit it. I hate arab muslims who want to blow up around me or in a crowded bus full of Jews"



That's the real quote.

Hint: If you're actually going to try and lie make sure that the clear evidence exposing you is AT LEAST on another thread, not a few posts up.

Christ, what does it feel like to be such a fool?

LOL!

You've GOT to be kidding me shitpile, the only time you have ever differentiated between plain "arabs" and those "who want to blow up around me or in a crowded bus full of Jews" was when you admitted to hating them...you paint them ALL with the same brush of hate, regardless of what they might 'want" to do to poor lil' shitpile.

Hint: If you're actually going to try and lie about being a racist make sure that the clear evidence exposing you is not contained EVERY OTHER FUCKIN' THING YOU POST!!!!

...oh, and by the way, NONE of the points you enumerated applies to me...feel free to look up and reference any ham fisted post of mine that proves otherwise....I know, I know...it is much easier to lie, but see if you can put your lazy ass to it.

Now, exactly how does it feels to be such a fool, we're just DYING for you to tell us!

...fuckin' loser....

"NONE of the points you enumerated applies to me"

I love getting dolts like you so worked up.

EVERY point applies to you. To the extent that you coherently post at all about any topic especially the Isareli/"palestinian" issue is the extent to which you so categorically and predictably condemn Israel wholesale.

Are you actually saying I'm wrong? You're actually claiming that you agree that arabs commit as much violence as does Israel? That arab/muslim states are human right cesspools?

Great. Glad to hear it.

I'm glad I could change your mind.

shitpile: "Are you actually saying I'm wrong? "



....duh.....

"free to look up and reference any ham fisted post of mine that proves otherwise"

...what do ya think da chicken-shitpile will do, kiddies?

...back his shit, or pack his shit?

C'mon kpc, you've got to be kidding. ANyone of the 6 or 7 people that frequent this place and have read your posts know where you stand on Israel and your staunche defense of all things arab.

Don't hold your breath on waiting for me to prove the obvious.

Yawning Over Abu Ghraib

In a world besotted by toxic moral equivalence, it actually makes sense to equate the treatment of Iraqi prisoners with the brutality suffered at the hands of Saddam Hussein, or, as some have suggested, the Gestapo torturers of the Third Reich. But aside from its inflammatory properties, such a comparison has little use as a diagnostic tool or a logical yardstick for measuring the degree of the offense, at least anywhere in the real world.



These incidents, we’re led to believe, recall the tyranny of Saddam’s regime, and tarnish the moral credibility of the allied mission in Iraq. As though being the butt of a miscreant’s joke is the same as having your kneecaps ground off.



Trust the Left to make the comparison, regardless of how strained or specious. Can you imagine how trivial these charges are going to seem if the terrorists manage to explode a dirty bomb and 30,000 Americans die puking up their own intestines? That is the caliber of enemy we face. Yet we’re supposed to don sackcloth because a few homunculi got their feelings hurt???



How do you fight a war by empathizing with your enemy? How do you center his skull in your sights and blow his brains out when you feel his hopes and dreams and know he carries a picture of his sweetheart in his back pocket? It would be a wonderful world if he felt the same way about you, if he got you in his sights and lowered his weapon in appreciation of the horror he was about to commit. If that were to happen, there would be little reason for either of you to be there in the first place.

But there is a reason. You’re there because your target and a few thousand of his friends are willing to hijack airplanes and fly them into your buildings. They yearn to set off explosives in your train stations and poison your water. They would cheer if a suitcase nuke went off in the Chicago subway at rush hour and thousands of innocent commuters vaporized in a flash.



To prevent these horrors, you commit smaller horrors. You keep the sights on the target, and you squeeze the trigger slowly, just like your DI showed you in Basic. And the target’s head explodes in a pink shower of blood, brain, and bone. And one less enemy exists to threaten your way of life and the lives of innocent Americans.



So you move your sights to the next target …



This is war.



But occasionally you don’t have to pull the trigger. Cowards quickly recognize the discretion that constitutes the major part of valor, and will often give up and live to fight another day. Then you - who only moments before were their executioners - become their caretakers.

Their presence puts a strain on your resources; you have to clothe and feed and shelter them, while your comrades are living in holes and eating whatever crumbs they can gather. You’re forced to listen to the insults and the defiance and the hypocrisy of people who have no honor. You suffer the outrage of their demands for decent treatment, as though the charred bodies dangling from a bridge like smoked beef are simply the ephemera of nightmares, not the work of the mewling wretches before you.



So maybe you’re a little brusque when you’re transporting a group of fetid whiners from the holding cells to the showers. Maybe you scoff when these “brave soldiers” cringe like schoolgirls at your guard dogs. Maybe you react to a rebellious loudmouth with a nightstick instead of Rogerian therapy. You let them stand naked a tad longer than they would have to, and you’re a trifle slow to respond to their demands for an extra blanket or a mint on their pillow. You’re a soldier not a stewardess, and these are murdering thugs, not guests at the Four Seasons.



Geneva Convention be damned. Under that same protocol, we would be well within our rights to summarily execute un-uniformed “militia.” We are certainly under no obligation to provide them with extraordinary service or carry out our duties with courtesy. We are not required to empathize.



What protection has the Geneva Convention accorded OUR fighting men and women? In Viet Nam, captured Americans were brutalized in unspeakable ways; the captors always found some justification for ignoring decency. Likewise in Gulf War I. Our prisoners were beaten, raped, in some cases murdered. And these were soldiers, not civvy-clad “noncombatants.” In another world, in cleaner times, such sideline shooters were known as “spies,” and were shot on the spot.



It is absurd to be hamstrung by polite conventions when prosecuting a war against savages. No, we don’t need to take our cues from Saddam. But I hardly think that poking fun at naked prisoners is the same as boiling a soccer team alive in battery acid. The world that has expressed such outrage at America’s indiscretions was oddly silent while Saddam was pulling his citizens’ eyes out with gimlets and Muqtada al-Sadr’s goons were dragging dismembered corpses through the streets. When that world begins to express the same level of discomfort with those atrocities as it does at the photos of naked Iraqis, it will earn some degree of credibility. When the imams and clerics of radical Islam begin demanding investigations into the wholesale slaughter of western contractors, they will show the same degree of integrity America has shown all along. And they will demonstrate their willingness to wage war according to rules of civilized behavior. That in turn will give them sounder ground from which to demand merciful treatment. But until that day, any treatment we give Iraqis beyond a bullet in the head comes from our grace alone. That we don’t line them all up and machine gun them is a tribute to our forbearance. The last thing these animals deserve is an apology.



I’ve seen umpires at Little League games abused worse than these prisoners. And all they did was make a bad call at second base. They didn’t behead anybody or make soup tureens of human skulls. How much sympathy am I supposed to have for a group of people who indulge the most savage and cowardly of human vices, then collapse at the first sign of resistance? How much high ground can a group claim when they readily slaughter innocents in ways that make Torquemada hurl? We’re supposed to believe that these barbarians are offended by their cavalier treatment, and that forcing them to march to the shower naked somehow bruises their fragile self-esteem?



In a more honest day and age, they would have needed fear no rough treatment; they would have been cut down where they cowered on the battlefield. The ultimate way to solve the mishandling of prisoners is to take no prisoners. Instead, these poltroons throw up their hands and demand protection under a protocol they steadfastly refuse to honor themselves.



“We should treat them well not for their sake but for our own,” it is argued. There seems to be a large group of folks more concerned about the PR implications of this molehill than about its moral (and legal) legitimacy. Am I to understand that our MPs are now to worry about whether these vermin have fuzzy bath slippers and a low-carb alternative at their dinner meal? Our soldiers are to devote tremendous energy and resources to ensuring the comfort of an ilk sworn to their eradication? What possible ethic binds us to such absurdity? What do we owe these detainees except a hot and a cot? Respect? For what!!??? Their grim determination as fighters? Their sense of honor and military integrity? The ultimate nobility of their cause?



Have you seen the Berg video? The charred meat, that used to be a person, swinging from a bridge in Fallujah? The shots of the Trade Center the morning of 9/11/2001? These are not images inclined to elicit respect from anyone except underclassmen at the De Sade School of Diplomacy. And unlike the photos from Abu Ghraib, these are not isolated, posed tableaus but slices of an all-too-commonplace reality frozen forever in a resin of horror. Yet we’re supposed to witness such depravity in silence, lest we inflame a pathological hatred against Arabs and Muslims. Worse yet, we’re supposed to suffer pangs of conscience when we see an Iraqi detainee cringing before an attack dog.



Maybe I’m alone in this, but I have to tell you, I DON’T CARE. I don’t care if Abdul is so scared he’s crapping his loincloth. I don’t care if Achmed sobs himself to sleep on the cold, dank floor of a fetid cell. I don’t care if he wakes every midnight from haunted dreams of a red-white-and-blue specter. I believe that these creatures should be accorded the bare minimum they need to survive: a relatively weather-proof roof over their heads, a bland, nutritious gruel thrice daily, and rags sufficient to keep our guards from having to stare at hairy naked bodies all day.

I don’t believe our jailers should be engaging in freelance electroshock or hobby proctology; such acts are beneath us. But we should not be prevented from such violence by any respect for our charges; they don’t deserve it. We should tolerate their pathetic existence only because wholesale murder and the torture of weaklings diminishes us as a people, kind of like throwing rocks at a limping mutt owes more to sadism than to power.



As to the PR impact of our “brutality,” I’m not particularly worried that the Abu Ghraib scrapbook may cost America its Miss Congeniality title. There isn’t a nation on earth - our Western allies included - that can dodge charges of wartime atrocities. The Brits had their Boers. The French had the Hugenots. The Spanish had the Incas, the Aztecs, and the Mayans. The Germans … well …



These “atrocities” weren’t limited to poking fun at some Catholic’s privates or tying some Jewish shopkeeper to a wall. Their offenses, where they didn’t leave piles of corpses, left broken bones, scarred faces, and missing limbs. They were truly tortures, not mere inconveniences magnified to scandal through the distorting lens of hypercritical media.



Propaganda is a powerful weapon during a time of war -- one might even say a weapon of mass destruction. It should be clear by now who is wielding that weapon and to what end.

Type, type, type.

What a HUGE load of steaming crap.

Moral Equivalence. Like the CIA being the sponsor of this bogeyman Saddam to whom you wish to pin the horror upon.

'Propaganda is a powerful weapon during a time of war -- one might even say a weapon of mass destruction. It should be clear by now who is wielding that weapon and to what end.'

no kidding.

How's that war on terror going today? Any good car bombs vaporized any of your colleagues in Iraq this afternoon? You sure do seem to have a lot of idle time to author such nonesensical drivel; shouldn't you be over there securing Fallujah? Or are those nasty terrorist-insurgent guerrilla's just too tough for a big bad strongman like you? Guess you're just another one of those pussies that believes the pen is mightier than the sword eh? Carry your rainbow flag elsewhere, homowuss.

I think it's great that we're killing off the filthy Islamic subhumans.

They aren't even fit to be considered "savages"...nor are you trash who publish this website.

Death is comming your way soon. We'll round ya all up and put you all out of your stinking misery.

*smile*

If the American people have even a shred of their ancestor's courage, this kind of talk will land your former employers on the gallows.

I love it. Iron Jack put out a devastating piece, and all the terrorist fellators could come up with is "racist". Waaah!

Where would Civilization be without Appeasing bedwetters?