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by Kurt Nimmo
Tuesday, Jun. 15, 2004 at 8:34 PM
So desperate are Bush Republicans to kill Michael Moore's latest film, Fahrenheit 9/11, they have hired a public relations firm to set up a web site attacking Moore.
Republicans are behind the effort to censor Fahrenheit 9/11 By Kurt Nimmo So desperate are Bush Republicans to kill Michael Moore's latest film, Fahrenheit 9/11, they have hired a public relations firm to set up a web site attacking Moore. The site, MoveAmericaForward.com, claims to be "non-partisan," but a glance at the "About" page of the site reveals the director and staff of Move America Forward are all diehard Republicans, anti-tax activists, and former legislative staffers. The PR firm is Russo Marsh & Rogers. Russo Marsh & Rogers is a GOP consultation firm. In 2002, Ron Rogers teamed up with Reagan heavyweight Lyn Nofziger and Ed Rollins to work on the gubernatorial campaign of Bill Simon (see Campaign movements -- People & Organizations.) Thanks to the detective work of WhatReallyHappened.com, it was revealed that Move America Forward's web site was registered in the name of Russo Marsh & Rogers. In other words, Move America Forward is about as partisan as it gets without putting the GOP seal of approval on the web site. In short, Move America Forward's campaign is a Republican dirty trick designed to smear Moore and pressure move theater owners not to run his film. "Time is short," the Move America Forward web site declares, "we must act now to have our voices heard in time to make a difference. Help us get messages from millions of Americans sent to these film industry executives." Certainly, time is short for the Republicans -- millions of Americans are about to learn how George Bush had a business relationship with the Bin Laden family -- and they will learn it right before the election. Russo and the "non-partisan" Republicans want to make sure you never see Moore's film. They don't want you to know the truth about Bush and his buddy-buddy dealings with the Saudis. Incidentally, after a WHOIS check -- WHOIS is a searchable database maintained by registries and registrars that contains information about domain name registrations on the internet -- was run on MoveAmericaForward.com and it was discovered that the site was registered in the name of Russo Marsh & Rogers. Soon after this information was posted on the web, the registrant name was modified to omit Russo Marsh & Rogers. Not only do the Republicans not want you to go see Moore's film, they also don't want you to know they are behind the campaign to smear Moore and pressure theater owners into not running the film. It's just like the Republicans to do this sort of thing behind your back. Of course, it is rather lazy and stupid of the Republicans to not think about WHOIS. But then nearly everything about the Republicans lately -- from the lies behind the invasion of Iraq to clumsily attempting to cover up the TortureGate scandal -- has been lazy and stupid. Don't be fooled. The Bush Republicans are behind this now transparent effort to silence Michael Moore. If you care about the First Amendment and don't like the idea of Republicans dictating to theaters what movies you can see, write Russo Marsh & Rogers and tell them what you think. The contact person is Douglas Lorenz and his email address is: dlorenz@rmrwest.com. If you live in Sacramento, you may want to drop by the Russo Marsh & Rogers offices and ask why they want to censor movies: 770 L Street, #950, Sacramento, CA 95814.
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by Zell Rocks
Wednesday, Jun. 16, 2004 at 12:57 AM
Filmmaker Michael Moore recently revealed that he wasn't sure he did the right thing by saving footage of U.S. American soldiers' cruelty toward Iraqis instead of releasing the evidence earlier. However, this shouldn't surprise anybody who knows anything about propaganda. He wanted to wait until his film was released to maximize effect and profits.
Moore is a first rate propagandist, similar to Joeseph Goebbels, the Nazi master of propaganda, deceit, and crude caricature assassinations. If you tell a lie long enough, there's enough dupes who will finally believe it's the truth. For instance, the mainstream media has gone absolutely ballistic over the prison abuse scandal, however, very little is ever mentioned about Nick Berg's beheading, or, all the good things that are happening in Iraq. Interesting how Nick Berg's grisly murder was news for maybe a day. The prison abuses are STILL at the top of the page of many major newspapers.
Senator Zell Miller (D-GA) made a brief speech on the floor of the Senate this past week, and he was blunt about just this topic. He did his own "body-slamming" of those he calls the "Hand-Wringers of America" -- He stated:
"Those who are wringing their hands and shouting so loudly for 'heads to roll' over this seem to have conveniently overlooked the fact that someone's head HAS rolled - that of another innocent American brutally murdered by terrorists. Why is it? Why is it that there's more indignation over a photo of a prisoner with underwear on his head than over the video of a young American with no head at all."
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by Democracy Fan
Wednesday, Jun. 16, 2004 at 8:20 AM
The prospect that millions of Americans will learn truths about GW has the repuke attack brigades out in full force.
There's nothing like a little free-speech to bring out their true anti-American colors.
Fascism lives in the hearts of many of our nieghbors.
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by neo-cons are desperate losers
Wednesday, Jun. 16, 2004 at 10:21 AM
The party's over, shitheads!
Pathetic attempts to censor Mr. Moore's film will only make it more popular.
Sedition means selling out your country to fascist shitheads like bush and his ilk who send off our young people to die for nothing. Those of you who disagree, shut the fuck up and send your own ass off to Iraq to die for imperialism.
BA and all you spooks and cops and neo-crackhead conservatives who do surveillance on the IMC will be out of a job, come November. I suggest ya'll move to Albania or Austria or somewhere where the outdated philosophy of fascism is appreciated.
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by KPC
Wednesday, Jun. 16, 2004 at 3:08 PM
..."if"???...it's a done deal dude...your monkey boy couldn't get elected dog catcher at a cat show...
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by Randy Grant
Wednesday, Jun. 16, 2004 at 5:12 PM
Alex Jones, TV and Radio Talkshow Host out of Austin Texas, made a film called "911 the Road to Tyranny" well before Mr. Moore lent his creative talents to the topic of the government planned attack designed to rid the people of the united States of America of their freedom. You can watch 911 the road to Tyranny at: http://www.hottyshots.com/media.asp Here is what the NY Post on May 20th 2004had to say regarding Fahrenheit 9/11... NOTHING NEW MICHAEL Moore's anti-Bush film "Fahrenheit 9/11" isn't even original. Two years ago, "9/11: The Road to Tyranny," a real documentary by Alex Jones, had most of the "facts" Moore uses in his scatter-shot diatribe. Jones, who is less interested in making money than the self-aggrandizing Moore, released his film for free on his Web site www.infowars.com, where it drew legions of new fans, including producer Curt Johnson, who is hiring Jones as a consultant on a political action thriller titled "Wake Up."
www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/alex/page_6.htm
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by We'll see...
Wednesday, Jun. 16, 2004 at 5:25 PM
..."if"???...it's a done deal dude...your monkey boy couldn't get elected dog catcher at a cat show...
We'll find out this November. Clownboat.
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by Sheepdog
Wednesday, Jun. 16, 2004 at 5:30 PM
They both have their agendas and neither one would have to be 100% unimpartial to begin to lift the cover off this interesting period of the ruling structure and its attendant horrors. Unless we ourselves choose to avert our gaze and shirk our responsibility. The truth is rather sickening.
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by more rational
Wednesday, Jun. 16, 2004 at 10:51 PM
Just FYI, by calling Kerry a socialist, you're only going to encourage the socialists who read this site to vote for him.
Until very recently, they've been calling Kerry the same Bush wine in a different bottle. Bush-lite.
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by KPC
Thursday, Jun. 17, 2004 at 6:47 AM
KPC
"Clownboat"
...am I supposed to be insulted? I'm not sure....
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by BA
Thursday, Jun. 17, 2004 at 3:17 PM
John Kerry quote on TV news this evening: "No one in this country should have to go without health care."
English Translation: "The people who don't have health insurance represent a huge voting block. I want those votes."
Accurate Interpretation: The billpayers, the folks who pull the wagon and pay the taxes, the Republicans are being asked by Kerry to fork over even more of their money to pay for medical care for those who haven't earned it. It's called "income redistribution" and it sucks.
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by KPC
Friday, Jun. 18, 2004 at 8:45 AM
KPC
Yeah....Kerry is a 'Socialist'....right....
...you wouldn't know a socialist if he dicked you in the ass....
...you'd just think he was another republican!
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by Impartial Observer
Saturday, Jun. 19, 2004 at 4:00 AM
The effort ito get Michael Moore's "misleading and grotesque" film Fahrenheit 9/11 banned from cinemas is gaining momentum.
Michael Moore's documentary film opens across the US next week
The film alleges connections between President George Bush and top Saudi families, including the Bin Ladens.
Move America Forward has begun a letter-writing campaign, while Citizens United is making TV and internet adverts which criticise Moore.
The documentary film will be shown around the US from 25 June.
Move America Forward members were behind a letter-writing campaign that led US channel CBS to drop TV movie The Reagans last November, claiming the film distorted history.
The group has received several thousand e-mails of support for its Fahrenheit 9/11 campaign, said executive director Siobhan Guiney.
"Since we are the customers of the American movie theatres it is important for us to speak up loudly and tell the industry executives that we don't want this misleading and grotesque movie being shown at our local cinema," the group said on its website, listing contact details for various US cinemas.
Ms Guiney said: "(Moore) is critical of what's happening right now, and there's no problem with being critical - but his movie is not a documentary, it's a piece of propaganda."
Citizens United is headed by former Republican congressional aide David Bossie, who is also targeting George Soros, a billionaire who donated nearly $13m to groups seeking to defeat President Bush.
Mr Bossie said: "Look, this guy (Moore) is simply producing and advertising this movie at this time to try to affect the election."
"It seems to be left to us to make sure that the media is educated, as well as the American people are educated, as to just what they're up to."
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by KPC
Saturday, Jun. 19, 2004 at 8:23 AM
...if you don't like the movie, don't go see it...
...but you have no fuckin' right to stop any one else from seeing it...
...what is it EXACTLY, that you are afraid of (as if we didn't already know the answer)...
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by KPC
Saturday, Jun. 19, 2004 at 8:25 AM
KPC
...how much you wanna bet that NONE of these fucks has even SEEN the movie?
...taking bets?
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by TruthHurts
Saturday, Jun. 19, 2004 at 8:07 PM
Wow, ZellRocks, you sound like like syndicated pundit/moron Ann Coulter. It's very tragic what happened to Daniel Berg, but how the hell can anyone undermine the prison abuse scandal???
The reason the media made a big deal about it is that IT IS A BIG DEALl! Do you know how bad that makes us look to the world? And that's before investigations asto whether or not soldiers had orders from Rumsfeld or Ashcroft themselves! Furthermore, what "good things" are happening in Iraq? Nothing WAS good before we invaded, and things are worse now.
And by the way, yes, Moore is a propagandist, and a con man in his own way, but that's EXACTLY what people like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh are as well. Don't be a fucking idiot.
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by A.N.
Saturday, Jun. 19, 2004 at 9:15 PM
Wow, ZellRocks, you sound like like syndicated pundit/moron Ann Coulter.
---Is that all you got? If Coulter's a moron that's 'extra' bad news for you, Chumley, since she exposes the left for the fools they are on a weekly basis. I wouldn't boast too much of a side that has Al Franken for "brains."
It's very tragic what happened to Daniel Berg, but how the hell can anyone undermine the prison abuse scandal???
---Nick Berg. Undermine? What do you mean? The story was beaten to death by desperate liberals who know they've got NO chance in hell of pushing frog kerry into the oval office.
The reason the media made a big deal about it is that IT IS A BIG DEALl! Do you know how bad that makes us look to the world? And that's before investigations asto whether or not soldiers had orders from Rumsfeld or Ashcroft themselves!
---The rest of the world? You mean the murderous communists? Starving Africans? Middle East tyrants? Smug failing socialist euro-trash? Are these the types whose opinions you worry about? If so, I pity you.
Furthermore, what "good things" are happening in Iraq?
----Look for whatever the liberal media refuses to air. They have a no-good-news policy for Iraq. It's an election year and they've got to stop Bush!
Nothing WAS good before we invaded, and things are worse now.
----I'm not even going to dignify this ignorance with a response.
And by the way, yes, Moore is a propagandist, and a con man in his own way, but that's EXACTLY what people like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh are as well. Don't be a fucking idiot.
----Bullshit. Limbaugh and Hannity use facts to support their arguments. It's liberals that have to pretzel the truth to even look borderline rational.
----further proof you got nothing is the insult machine, for which I will gladly return the favor, slapnuts fafafini.
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by Andy
Saturday, Jun. 19, 2004 at 9:30 PM
This is because you freepers stink. Have no imagination and on the whole are dogmatic, stupid and evil snakes that need killing. But because I'm a 'liberal' I'll only kill you if you fuck with me.
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by bite this, homey
Saturday, Jun. 19, 2004 at 10:02 PM
This is because you freepers stink.
----I had to go to urbandictionary.com to find out what a "freeper" was. it was neither here nor there.
----sure, there are people like that; every movement has its kooks. Michael Moore's latest crockumentary is a prime example.
Have no imagination and on the whole are dogmatic, stupid and evil snakes that need killing. But because I'm a 'liberal' I'll only kill you if you fuck with me.
----now that doesn't sound like the Enlightened, open-minded, tolerant INdividual the left is famous for. Why am I not shocked?
----Imagination is wonderful, but when one goes around clucking about chemtrails, CIA conspiracies, global warming, Illuminati ad nauseum with no hard evidence to back it up, it's no longer fun and games, it's shared mental illness and tyranny.
----I wish liberals really did only practiced self-defense, instead of inventing Orwellian hate crimes and special "rights" for various groups, promoting class envy and racial hatred, attacking all religions except islam, pushing vulgar, meritless trash any 7-year-old could make as "art" and generally trying to get some kind of nazi-nanny laws into every nook and cranny of Americans' lives.
---God (yes, GOD) knows we need "more" tyranny by the immoral minority, the same that ruined ancient Rome.
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by Andy
Sunday, Jun. 20, 2004 at 6:44 AM
I meant to say that despite the chaff thrown into the unsupported rhetoric about self defense, I fucking certainly ain't going to let any brownshirt like goons screw with me, no matter the present brass band of 'leftist' bashing to make another needed enemy blares. You're one of them and we both know why you're here. Some of us have been paying attention. You can't deal with it in any other way but with interference methods. Pisses you off no end unable to just call in the authorities and have anyone you want disappeared. So, attempting to prepare the waters for the next coming attraction, the new enemy is salted to provide a public scapegoat for the next domestic terrorist event, like all the others that have the hand of the intelligence services all over them. Al Quaea, my ass. Thank you.
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by A.N.
Sunday, Jun. 20, 2004 at 7:12 AM
I meant to say that despite the chaff thrown into the unsupported rhetoric about self defense, I fucking certainly ain't going to let any brownshirt like goons screw with me, no matter the present brass band of 'leftist' bashing to make another needed enemy blares.
----Altho the kookier elements doubt it, the righties that visit here aren't paid by any government entity to do anything. I look upon such speculation as a paranoid ego trip of the far left to think they're that important in the Big Picture.
You're one of them and we both know why you're here. Some of us have been paying attention. You can't deal with it in any other way but with interference methods.
----I simply post my thoughts on the scene, dawg. I'm a civilian and a voter, that's it. I know that I have no chance in hell of swaying anyone's opinion, but "you go where the sinners are." Eventually, I'll catch a young mind off guard and s/he'll be forced to think about an issue s/he wouldn't have before.
Pisses you off no end unable to just call in the authorities and have anyone you want disappeared.
----If I had a team of elite goons at my disposal, I wouldn't waste time picking off lefties. I'd be rigging the Powerball lottery and Miss America Contest. Ha ha ha. And hunting down the arabic terrorists within the States, the ones the left still claims don't exist.
So, attempting to prepare the waters for the next coming attraction, the new enemy is salted to provide a public scapegoat for the next domestic terrorist event, like all the others that have the hand of the intelligence services all over them. Al Quaea, my ass. Thank you.
----Not sure what you mean. The mainstream left has been hijacked by the far (and far nuttier) leftists, and the mainstreamers are payng the price for selling their souls. The party of Jefferson is now the party of Marx (Karl, not RIchard).
----The nicest thing I can offer is that I'm glad you (presumably) own a firearm. All Americans should.
----And maybe Worry less about "brownshirts" and more about turbans.
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by Andy
Sunday, Jun. 20, 2004 at 9:10 AM
>...So, attempting to prepare the waters for the next coming attraction, the new enemy is salted to provide a public scapegoat for the next domestic terrorist event, like all the others that have the hand of the intelligence services all over them. Al Quaea, my ass. Thank you.
----Not sure what you mean.<...
So you're saying you aren't aware of the fact that the al Queada assets of our inteligence services are doing these "attacks".
Or you do know and it's the usual shuck.
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by Lefty
Sunday, Jun. 20, 2004 at 12:07 PM
If we were all liberals life would be hard, very hard.
Except for the climate, America would look a lot like Haiti.
The lack of a positive climate for free enterprise would drive the entrepreneurs offshore. They're our most important citizens.
Without them we we could only proceed to raise taxes on the rest of us an ever increasing number of whom would be chronically unemployed.
The labor unions could march with signs demanding whatever they want. The lights would be out and their employers would be gone for good.
It would be a downward spiral until the public came to it's senses and threw out the liberals. ____ Gosh -- I must have been having a nightmare. Whew. Thankfully that's not happening.
We're actually in pretty good shape. The Republicans have a majority in both the House and the Senate. That should increase in November. The White House and the Supreme Court are controlled by Republicans. That should be firmed up even more over the next few years. Thankfully left wing morons like Al Gore, Dennis Kucinich, and Barney Frank are continuing to marginalize themselves to a greater extent every day.
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by Wavemaster
Sunday, Jun. 20, 2004 at 12:26 PM
Sorry freepers but the French have ensured that millions of independent swing voters will learn the true nature of the Bush administration. By winning the top award at the Cannes Film Festival Michael Moore's documentary will become the final nail in W's coffin. Sorry Mr Oriley but the french have spoken and the truth shall be revealed. As far as Ann Coulter goes I'd like to see her and Randi Rohdes of Air America go at it in a mud wrestling match. Randi would kick her ass! Now I must go and have some FRENCH FRIES and go to my John Kerry house party! Oh yea and I also give money to Pacifica Radio and subscribe to the nation! ONe Moore thing, AL Franken beat Rush and Oriley in New York!
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by Lefty
Sunday, Jun. 20, 2004 at 12:47 PM
>>By winning the top award at the Cannes Film Festival Michael Moore's documentary will become the final nail in W's coffin.
Nobody gives a rat's ass about Michael Moore or the Cannes Film Festival. The only significant thing that happened over there is that the French reduced their alreay low standing even further.
>>>As far as Ann Coulter goes I'd like to see her and Randi Rohdes of Air America go at it in a mud wrestling match. Randi would kick her ass!
While that might be true in Mud Wrestling, Ann is the clear victor in the political arena.
>>>AL Franken beat Rush and Oriley in New York!>>
Whos is Al Franken? Never heard of him.
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by dan
Monday, Jun. 21, 2004 at 11:41 AM
Disinfopedia has some detailed info about the jokers at Russo Marsh and Rogers who are behind the Move America Forward fake campaign.
Turns out they made a couple of million dollars from GOP politicians in 2001/2002. What a surprise.
Also see:
Disinfopedia on Move America Forward
or alternatively,
What Really Happened on Move America Forward
www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Move_America_Forward
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by BushAdmirer
Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 5:55 PM
WHAT LEFT-WING P.B.S. BIAS? By Ann Coulter
Bill Moyers, the lamented, demented former host of the PBS program "Now With Bill Moyers," referred to the American-led war in Iraq as doing "to the people of Baghdad what bin Laden did to us."
He called American flag pins "a little metallic icon of patriotism" comparable to Mao's Little Red Book being displayed on every Communist Party official's desk in China. This is silly. The metallic icons of patriotism that Mao used to keep the masses in line were considerably longer and sharper, and were usually applied to the back by a fellow "comrade."
Moyers denounced Condoleezza Rice for her ineptness in not preventing the 9/11 attack, despite a clearly worded memo stating: "Bin Laden determined to attack the United States." In other breaking news: Waitress in L.A. Determined to Become Actress. As Condi said, "I don't think you, frankly, had to have that report to know that bin Laden would like to attack the United States."
In his lengthy diatribe against Rice, Moyers said she had cried wolf, intentionally misleading "America and the world about the case for invading Iraq." Apparently Rice had said Iraq was "a part of the war on terror" on the grounds that Saddam was: (1) supporting terrorists, (2) a weapons of mass destruction threat and (3) "a tremendous barrier to change in the Middle East."
But as regular viewers of PBS know, in fact, we invaded Iraq for oil.
Yes, precisely. That's why U.S. forces seized Iraq's oil fields right after Baghdad fell, confiscated their vast oil reserves, and now we can buy all the gasoline we want here at home for just pennies a gallon any time we want. Sorry, we what? Folks, my switchboard is completely lit up and this isn't even a radio show.
Moyers responded to the 2002 midterm elections in which Republicans bucked history by gaining seats in both the House and the Senate by warning Americans of the coming Rapture: "(I)f you like God in government, get ready for the Rapture." As Moyers described the horror that was to come: "That agenda includes the power of the state to force pregnant women to surrender control over their own lives."
I'm pretty sure even the harshest anti-abortion laws would only prevent a woman from killing her baby, not send her to a slave labor camp. But with his broadcast career crashing down around him, Moyers took a brave stand against the internment of pregnant women.
Moyers also said the agenda of the coming theocracy "includes using the taxing power to transfer wealth from working people to the rich." (And we'd appreciate it if you poor people would fold the bills a little more neatly before mailing them in next time.)
As the extra little cherry on top, all Moyers' nut conspiracy theories were being broadcast on PBS, subsidized by the U.S. taxpayer. Not only that, but Moyers takes a cut of every video of his show sold, and he has family members on the payroll. Let's see now: a corrupt, partisan demagogue and his family caught feeding at the taxpayers' trough. Let's just hope he never took a free golfing trip to Scotland!
When Ken Tomlinson, chair of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, suggested that PBS was maybe a smidgen left of center, Moyers began his lengthy public nervous breakdown. Already well-known as an insufferable jerk, it turns out Moyers is also a crazy megalomaniac, too.
In a recent speech to the the National Conference on Media Reform -- a conference dedicated to increasing liberal representation in the media from 94.6 percent to 99.8 percent -- Moyers responded to his critics by reading from his fan mail, reading favorable news articles about himself, and comparing himself to Jesus Christ or, as he put it, "one of our boys." If it were possible that he actually believed in God, PBS would be doing a special report on Moyers after a remark like that.
He said his critics were "obsessed with control, using the government to threaten and intimidate" -- almost as control-obsessed as 45 senators trying to tell 55 senators which judicial nominees are acceptable. The threat is: Provide balanced programming or stop expecting subsidies from the U.S. taxpayer.
Moyers also noted that his critics were the ones behind the bin Laden-like attack on Iraq in order "to make sure Ahmed Chalabi winds up controlling Iraq's oil." (And that's why gasoline is so cheap!) Yep, it's all right there on the Project for a New American Century's agenda: (1) invade Iraq, (2) somehow get Bill Moyers' PBS show canceled, (3) invade Syria, (4) invade Iran ...
Moyers has clearly reached the next-to-last stage of the megalomaniac's life cycle: the persecution complex. We'll know Moyers has reached end-stage megalomania when he begins to exhibit an inordinate fear of germs.
According to Moyers, the reason these right-wing radicals focused on him despite the fan mail he gets -- to say nothing of favorable write-ups in the mainstream media -- is that he "didn't play by the conventional rules of Beltway journalism." (That and the giant piece of tinfoil on his head.)
These contemptible "rules of Beltway journalism" apparently consist of reporters completely ignoring important conspiracy theories regularly featured on Moyers' program and instead functioning as "government stenographers" -- as Moyers called one reporter for The New York Times, no less.
Moyers did live by one rule of old-media journalism: He believed he should not need viewers to have a TV show. During fund-raising drives, scores of local PBS affiliates would drop Moyers' program for fear of driving away donors. Let me say that I personally believe this was a mistake. Moyers' show was the one PBS program that made the pledge drives seem interesting.
But the absence of an audience is no concern for liberals. After all, Air America is still on air. How about making George Soros pay Moyers' salary? Then at least he'd have a little less money to spend on wrecking the country. Hey -- maybe that's what Moyers meant about the Republican government transferring money from working people to the rich.
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