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MORE torture photos from Abu Ghraib

by proud 'n free Saturday, May. 22, 2004 at 2:45 AM

The Washington Post has released more photos of U.S. occupation troops torturing Iraqi prisoners. Some of the photos can be found at: http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=2444

MORE torture photos ...
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Note the brave U.S. soldier in the photo where a German Shepard is being used to terrorize a cowering, shivering prisoner. Could he be a neighbor of yours? A co-worker? Fellow student perhaps? Isn't it comforting to know that fellow citizens have become NAZIS.

As for the second photo of the naked man with his arms outstretched. By the grin on the American ape's face... it looks like a game of "lower your arms and I'll beat the living daylights out of you with the club I'm holding." But that pleasantry aside... is that unfortunate Iraqi prisoner slathered in.... excrement? Do you see his ankles manacled together?

Has it come to this, America? Are you so afraid, so prideful, so arrogant... that you've been reduced to a gang of drooling, club wielding, jack booted thugs? Turn off "American Idol" for a moment and look at these photos. Realize that there are THOUSANDS of these snapshots.

It's not just the Iraqi prisoners who are being brutalized. We are ALL being dehumanized by this. We are justifying the practice, we are closing our eyes to it, we are pretending that it didn't happen or that it was just a "hazing." Wake up before it's too late. Stop this war... get out.

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American pranksters

by lucius Saturday, May. 22, 2004 at 3:20 AM

The American sense of humor has gone a bit funny in the last twenty years or so... go figure.

Also funny is the fact that the people here who attack the views of Bush critics by default say that Iraqis deserve a rough treatment because they are "less than animals." Compare this to these photos: American troops arranging Iraqi-vs.-Shepard dogfights, and taking snapshots of naked Iraqis on leashes being forced to crawl along the floor.

Apparently our troops have also bought the "Iraqis are less than human" campaign that is running rampant through the Conservative Right in America. Maybe it makes it easier for everyone to deal with themselves if they rationalize that they are working for the good guys, bravely fighting people who are inherently worthless. It's the same kind of mob mentality behind some of the most debasing Fraternity pranks seen on university campuses, minus the heavy alcohol consumption.

The unfortunate truth is that they are just taking real people, with emotions and all the rest, and trying to fuck them up in the head as badly as they can. Hey, as long as they sleep at night, America is still on top…

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perspective is in order

by John Cena Saturday, May. 22, 2004 at 5:20 AM

A handful off asshole reservists fucked up. Rummy knew about it March, though the lying liberal media (redundant) painted their usual hysterical portrait of SHOCKING behavior as if they alone had "discovered" something new and brokne the story to the world. Why, several overeager "news" sources who like to mock certain media companies for being "fair and balanced" just posted some porno pics that seemed to match the event.

The majority of Americans disapprove of the abuse and condemn the behavior. The majority of reservists at the camp, professional, decent men and women, were outraged by the antics of the few, and many reported the baboonery to their chains of command. The chain didn't take action as quickly as it could've and for that, many careers are being properly ended.

A quick reminder about the former prisoners of this camp. They're not pickpockets or enemy combatants, as the Iraqi Army officially surrendered last year. So who are they? Serious criminals and terrorist informants, scum who would and have taken up arms against U.S. troops and their own countrymen. In other words, saddam loyalists, aka some of the last people on earth who deserve any kind of mercy.

It's been 2 weeks now, and the hypocrites and jealous failures that swing on vines within the united savage nations are STILL whining and complaining about it.

While all this is going on, 5 masked cowards film the murder of a handbound American. The ones most in denial about the existence of evil call the tape "a fake" yet there's nothing fake about the headless corpse found days later.

Not a single goddamned cleric from the gentle, peace-loving cult of islam denounces the murder and the mainstream American (liberal) media has already buried the story. Oh no, we're back (again) to focus on dog bites and naked pyramids at Abu Gharaib. Boo fuckin hoo, those "traumatized" assholes still get to keep their heads.







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better bad guys are (still) as good as good

by lucius Saturday, May. 22, 2004 at 5:49 PM

"We'll take slightly better bad guys over good guys; stop complaining, just look at the Iraqis."

Does this excuse have any limits? Rumsfeld didn't just "find out," he was instrumental in planning the use of these trauma tactics.

If you are so eager to apologize for these tactics just because you support the administration behind them, be ready to see them coming to your own backyard any day now.

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more torture, less photos, please

by peepdog Saturday, May. 22, 2004 at 6:07 PM

"We'll take slightly better bad guys over good guys; stop complaining, just look at the Iraqis."

Does this excuse have any limits?

--------the incident has been explained and re-explained to liberals on a silver platter. since lefty is starting with a pre-conceived, re-diculous, anti-military, anti-american agenda (always "hidden" under the guise of "human rights") it is to be expected that no amount of evidence is going to convince lefty otherwise.



Rumsfeld didn't just "find out," he was instrumental in planning the use of these trauma tactics.

-------Since you have exactly zero pieces of evidence to support this claim, we'll just have to wait and see. However, were it proved true, I would condemn Rumsfeld for entirely different reasons than you.

Snapping photos of harmless gaybird pyramids isn't going to get any useful intel while actually torturing the vermin will.

If you are so eager to apologize for these tactics just because you support the administration behind them, be ready to see them coming to your own backyard any day now.

-------I'm sure you heard similar when Clinton's stormtroopers burned a certain compound to the ground in Waco, but like all liberal apologists, ignored the warning.

--------Differences now include a real enemy being fought in Iraq and real leadership at work there to bring the terrorist population down to Nader's chances of ever winning an election: zero.



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OneEyedMan

by KPC Saturday, May. 22, 2004 at 7:20 PM

fuckknuckle: "A handful off asshole reservists fuckedup."

Tagabu report and Rumsfailed's testimony have shown this not to be true..have you listened to Rumsfailed's testimony? The only thing he disagreed with was the extent of the treatment, but he admitted that harsh treatment was authorized to extract information.

In light of this testimony, I would normally call you a liar, but having read your past posts, I understand that you are just a willfully uninformed idiot.

...

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Turn the tables

by justice for all Sunday, May. 23, 2004 at 1:29 AM

"Peepdog" wrote:

>> --------the incident has been explained and re-explained to liberals on a silver platter. since lefty is starting with a pre-conceived, re-diculous, anti-military, anti-american agenda (always "hidden" under the guise of "human rights") it is to be expected that no amount of evidence is going to convince lefty otherwise.
So... we are better because we don't cut off the heads of OUR prisoners? Might I remind you... in some of the photos now being released, an Iraqi prisoner is shown who had been BEATEN TO DEATH... and grinning U.S. soldiers are mugging and posing for photos over the black and blue corpse!

As for the rest of the torture photos showing nothing but pranks and hazing.... let's turn the tables. Imagine YOUR MOTHER being stripped naked by occupying foreign troops. Imagine the guards setting dogs upon her... inserting chem lites up her rear, smearing her with excrement, chaining her to the bars of her cell until she passes out. You'd call it TORTURE then wouldn't you!!!!!!!!!!!

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OneEyedMan

by KPC Tuesday, May. 25, 2004 at 3:08 PM

...yes, but like a good brownshirt, he would still torture his mother as ordered...

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the lot of you on this thread

by peepdog Wednesday, Jun. 02, 2004 at 9:48 PM

...aren't fit to carry my balls in a paper sack.

People in general are smarter than the liberal elite will ever be, so get over yourselves.

I'll give you a mental chew toy for now:

There's a suitcase nuke ticking towards detonation in the downtown of a major American city. We have the terrorist responsible in custody but so far he's said nothing.

Would you change your tune about the use of torture then?





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"carry my balls"

by Sheepdog Wednesday, Jun. 02, 2004 at 10:46 PM

There's a horrific accident near you.

And you see peepdog's balls in the ditch then, you ask yourself, paper or plastic?

Then you look at the tag.

Good of you to specify. Where do you want them delivered?

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the silence is deafening

by peepdog Thursday, Jun. 03, 2004 at 4:30 AM

while sheepdog chokes on a figure of speech, the question goes unaswered.

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OneEyedMan

by KPC Thursday, Jun. 03, 2004 at 5:46 PM
KPC

...gee...that is SO clever...I mean...really, did you think that one up all by your lonesome? How can anyone argue with THAT???

...wow...we are all so dumbfounded...just assume victory in our abject silence....

...fuckin' shitheel....

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