HR 3722 , the Undocumented Alien Emergency Medical Assistance Amendments of 2004 sponsored by Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA), is expected to go to the House floor at some point next week. It would require hospital workers to collect certain data on undocumented individuals and provide this information to the Department of Homeland Security. This bill is burdensome from a regulatory perspective; and does not reflect the value of justice.


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Thank you!

Even if this bill passes, you worthless, ever-breeding mexican rats are safe. Until we begin mass deportation and pay bounty hunters to capture illegals, it doesn't matter what info we collect on you parasites.

It is a shame that there are still people in this country so ignorant and racist to voice opinions like that seen above. This is why the world hates America, because of uneducated, hateful people like peepdog who resorts to illusions of grandieur and superiority to cover his own failures and shortcomings. Perhaps we should start deporting people back to ireland, england, germany, or wherever your ancestors came from?

Outraged,

"Peepdog" probably doesn't believe half of the shit written above. Maybe you're not a regular, but to give you the quick debrief, this site is infested with people (possibly just a few people, but who can tell?) who post brief, insulting, and pointless comments meant to distract other people from the topics that they were discussing. These baiters generally change their handle for half of their posts, which makes it impossible to "read more" of what they have said. Maybe they consider this a strategic advantage over everyone who usually sticks to one handle.

This person is trying to get a rise out of you for moral sensibilities related to Mexicans being treated like equal human beings worthy of the same treatment as Americans. That is all. He is not saying these things because he wants anyone to agree, he just wants the power-rush of knowing that he helped to hurt someone. I hear it's all the rage these days; better than cocaine, they say.

Some resident debaters at LA Indymedia forum have theorized that some of these baiters are moles for FBI, or CIA. The theory follows on the COINTEL programs run by the US government philosophy of the 60s and 70s. Some people think that the baiters are just liberal-bashers with nothing better to do. One thing is plain to see, though: they are here to waste our time so that we don't think, communicate, or mobilize for what we believe in.

I've been going after these baiters, confronting them on their total lack of dignity or honor in communication. Surprise, surprise: they keep posting the same tripe. I even have a "pet" baiter who follows me around through the "read more lucius" metasearch and accuses me of being a disinfo mole, trying to instill paranoia or something.

For a quick summary of the LA IMC baiters' M.O., see http://la.indymedia.org/news/2004/04/108511_comment.php#109587

It is a shame that there are still people in this country so ignorant and racist to voice opinions like that seen above.

Yeah, if everyone was as stupid as liberals, an "open borders" America could be overrun by Turd World trash in less than a year instead of 30 years.

This is why the world hates America,

The world is jealous of America and it should be. 95% of the rest of the globe is a dirty, backwards shithole that people run to America to get away from.

because of uneducated, hateful people like peepdog who resorts to illusions of grandieur and superiority to cover his own failures and shortcomings. I am indeed superior to liberals, and while exceptionally intelligent, I'm also free from ed-jew-cational propaganda. Plenty of people see what's really going on.

Illegals (u see liberals, there's a difference between legal and illegal immigration) come to this country, bring disease and crime, refuse to learn English and drain the welfare state--which is the liberals own crime against Americans--of billions of dollars. Your god damn right we hate you fucking fecal-colored parasites and you guilt-ridden white liberal stooges. Perhaps we should start deporting people back to ireland, england, germany, or wherever your ancestors came from?

Sorry asshole, that'll never happen. I was born here and my ancestors came here legally. They didn't slink under the border like some chunk of mexcrement or other Turd World savage with a bone through his nose. A race war is coming in America and it's the fault of liberals.

Peepdog:
I would thank you, except that I loathe you. Hell, thanks anyway. You've made it obvious to all that I'm not just ranting about the sabotage campaign going on here.

Outraged:
No further questions..?

Peepdog:
I would thank you, except that I loathe you. Hell, thanks anyway. You've made it obvious to all that I'm not just ranting about the sabotage campaign going on here.

Outraged:
No further questions..?

peepdog (me) is just a guy with a cheap computer. COINTELPRO doesn't pay me a dime, nor does any other gubber-mint entity.

I don't care if all the IMC liberals get together for a picnic every day. It's their suicidal idealogy I'm against, not individuals.

On the issue of immigration, there's a real disconnect in the liberal brain. Apparently to liberals, the gentleman who calls ahead, then knocks on the front door of a home he is visiting and the low-life thief who crowbars in through the window at midnight are equals.

I don't envy you. You're too smart to be a liberal. The liberals here aren't welcoming you. In 10 years you'll probably come over to the conserva-side, while perhaps remaining more enlightened.

>peepdog (me) is just a guy with a cheap computer. COINTELPRO doesn't pay me a dime, nor does any other gubber-mint entity.

I didn't say that you're on anyone's payroll. What I was getting at is the intent behind a lot of what you say. It's just as bad if you goad people for kicks.

I'm not even going to favor your immigration comments with a response. If you managed to get your end of the dialogue away from crap like "95% of the rest of the globe is a dirty, backwards shithole" or "fucking fecal-colored parasites," I might have a shred of respect for your stance, but I'm not holding my breath.

Again, the question here isn't "are you a liberal?" It's a matter of whether you thrive on generalizations, or see them as a fallacy--whether you thrive on slurs, or see them as cheap shots that don't instill any real perspective. Keep doing what you're doing; I just hope you don't kid yourself into believing that your malicious, bait-ridden style of communication accomplishes anything constructive.

I'm not even going to favor your immigration comments with a response.

---That's a shame, because the illegal invaders are already here and millions more are coming. They don't care whether you liberals accept them as human beings or not: they're coming, and their Turd World slum "lifestyle" of crime and disease will run roughshod right over your well-mannered, diversity-meaning self.

---You don't have to agree with my righteous rage or bloody-well-meant slurs, but if you're for 'open borders' at least admit it and defend your position.

peepdog,

yes, i think you have done a great job at illustrating what a grade-A idiot you are. Your derrogatory comments do little to suggest a mentality any grater than that of a 1st grade skinhead with a mental handicap.

By the way, do you think your ancestors had to file a mountain of papers with INS and wait an insane amount of time for a decision? -- No, they simply got on a boat and came here because they felt it was in their best interest (just the same way as people do today). They didn't have papers, passports, or even a Visa, so in a sense, your ancestors were illegal immigrants, and you are no better than the "illegal scum" you are so quick to badmouth. Believe me, given the choice, people would much rather immigrate legally than otherwise, but the reality is that many just don't have that choice. In addition, all the immigration laws passed after 9/11 make it damn near impossible to an immigrant to gain legal status, let alone become a naturalized citizen.

Oh, and i'm sure the native american population wasn't too thrilled with all the deseases the europeans brought with them. Deseases like syphillis, tuberculosis, etc. Areas with a high immigrant population such as new york, for example were rampant with desease brought by your immigrant ancestors. So in a sense you are not completely wrong about that issue, however, that was a problem when YOUR ancestors we migrating, not now. We now have excellent medical facilities to combat outbreaks of epidemics, given that inept politicians are prevented from passing idiotic bills like the one discussed in this thread. And just in case you were wondering, immigrants don't have any new and exotic diseases. Mexican have the same diseases you can find in any good-ol' american living next door.

peepdog,
yes, i think you have done a great job at illustrating what a grade-A idiot you are. Your derrogatory comments do little to suggest a mentality any grater than that of a 1st grade skinhead with a mental handicap.
------oh, I don’t think so. As more people awaken to the true menace of millions of foreigners inside their borders in an age of terrorist war, the likelihood of the precious walls going up to keep out the hordes becomes closer to reality.
By the way, do you think your ancestors had to file a mountain of papers with INS and wait an insane amount of time for a decision? -- No, they simply got on a boat and came here because they felt it was in their best interest (just the same way as people do today). They didn't have papers, passports, or even a Visa, so in a sense, your ancestors were illegal immigrants, and you are no better than the "illegal scum" you are so quick to badmouth.
-------what a pitiful attempt to justify the illegal invasion. Maybe someone will break into your home and steal all your stuff, since that’s in “their” best interest.
Believe me, given the choice, people would much rather immigrate legally than otherwise, but the reality is that many just don't have that choice. In addition, all the immigration laws passed after 9/11 make it damn near impossible to an immigrant to gain legal status, let alone become a naturalized citizen.
--------excuses, excuses. There are 6 billion people on earth. Do they ALL deserve to simply swarm into America because they can’t get their shit in order and their countries of origin suck? Your rant is that of some diamond thief, whining because the jewels are placed under glass.
Oh, and i'm sure the native american population wasn't too thrilled with all the deseases the europeans brought with them. Deseases like syphillis, tuberculosis, etc. Areas with a high immigrant population such as new york, for example were rampant with desease brought by your immigrant ancestors.
--------here we go. You’re going to blame this generation for the mistakes of the past. You ‘professional victims’ are all alike.
So in a sense you are not completely wrong about that issue, however, that was a problem when YOUR ancestors we migrating, not now. We now have excellent medical facilities to combat outbreaks of epidemics, given that inept politicians are prevented from passing idiotic bills like the one discussed in this thread. And just in case you were wondering, immigrants don't have any new and exotic diseases. Mexican have the same diseases you can find in any good-ol' american living next door.
---------regarding your last sentence…while 40 million Americans go without health care, these illegals with the “same diseases” BLEED OUR HOSPITALS DRY being treated here. The simple truth is, ILLEGALS OF ANY STRAIN DON’T BELONG HERE. That’s why they’re called “illegals.”

Your right, BA.

A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which he proposes to pay off with your money.

G. Gordon Liddy

PEEPDOG, YOUR RIGHT THUMB HAS MORE INTELLIGENCE THAN YOURSELF.

Within the "conservative" side, there's an immigration contradiction. The wealthy elite like immigration because it increases the labor pool, and lowers prices. They also love illegal immigrants because workers with fewer rights will work for even less money.

The grassroots hate immigration, because they are the working class and in competition against immigrants, and also more racist than the liberals (who are also racist, but in a more gentle way) and have animosity against brown people.

What's interesting is how this conflict is managed. What happens is that voter initiatives are created to screw over immigrants, and political rhetoric against immigrants gets conservatives elected. Then, once in office, the laws are undone and labor protections removed, to curry favor with the business interests who support the candidates with money.

Look up IRCA 1986, and then Hoffman Plastics. What was passed as anti-immigrantion law in 1986, to appease xenophobes, was undone by a conservative court decision that made is more profitable to hire undocumented workers than documented.

Conservatives are completely manipulating the immigration game, and Mexicans are the victims.

Yea, right.

Mexicans are the victims are they? Well let's hope they take their victimized asses back to Mexico - where they won't be victimized.

Hell, I'll volunteer to help 'em pack.

...it never takes too long for a racist doggie to show his spots...


...thanks for further discrediting yourself, my little doggie....

Pipe down child.

Mexican is not a race. Mexican is a nationality.

To suggest that a Mexican return to Mexico is therefore not racism.

KPC: dumber than he sounds.

...what, you think I mentioned that you are a racist because of that post?

Idiot, you're a racist no matter what drivel you post...everybody here knows that.

If America invades Rejexico, we're "evil."

BUT

If Rejexicans invade America, they're "undocumented immigrants" who I hope "immigrate" their asses through the windows of liberals' homes and steal what they want.

There are consequences to supporting idiocy and liberals need to reap the full benefits of being traitors.

As for Rejexico, fuck 'em. Lob a few nukes over the border...name the first two bombs 'sheepdorg' and 'parmesancheese.'

Vicente Chihuahua Fox will get the message.

Ahh my fans...
It's so nice to be noticed. My heat is filled with pride to know that I've drawn such a wide audience of rabid weasels. I MUST be doing something right.
Tell me more. But stop sugar coating the mild rebukes. It makes me think that you are babies.

please insert a 'r' between the 'a' and the 't' on the word 'heat' in my previous post.
thank you for your support.

...thanks for clearing that up Dog....I thought it was a typo for "meat".

You're on a roll today, popeye.
Please continue.

you are all whining about immigrants taking our tax money and such. Then why not just make it easier for them to become legal residents and become tax-paying citizens?

Unless, of course, you believe that you have a god-given right to deny others their freedom and pursuit of happiness.

"bullshit discrimination laws of 65."

Yup. Let's go back to the days where we had poll taxes, lynch mobs of drunken racists and the ever helpful KKK. America at it's best. Sorry, you must feel bad after most of America attained a conscience.
Why don't you get together with your dying class of swine and gather around the cracker barrel to figure out how to run the world according to the knights of ignorance and threatened false superiority?

the reference is to the warped immigration laws of 1965 which put a ban on European immigrants while opening the door for turd world hordes.

it really is a shame that "civil rights" has long since surpassed its original intent and now is a bunch of anti-White crap.

the results of illegals' destruction are everywhere, from a welfare state on the verge of collapse to entire cities (like detroit, LA and DC) run into the fuckin ground.

anyhow, fuck off. you're just another America-hating guilty white liberal asshole getting played like a sucka, or yet another parasite looking for a handout.
you should be forced to live among the illegal mexcrement or oonga-boongas you love so much.

If not for the orgy of theft, 2.3 TRILLION missing from the military in outright theft, there would be enough for all and less taken in waste for destruction funneled into share holders of defense corporations.

I hope some more conservatives see this thread.

This is the Dana Rorbacher fan club. These racist, nationalist assholes are his electorate. Whose side are you on, Republicans.

Praxis misses a point - the people coming from Mexico are often value-added. Even the illegals are relatively well educated, but have hit their glass ceiling. There's a lot of unemployment in Mexico.

NAFTA and maquiladoras were sold to the race-baiters in America as a way to improve the economy there, but it has only exacerbated the problem. I guess that's what they get for believing big business!

"the reference is to the warped immigration laws of 1965 which put a ban on European immigrants while opening the door for turd world hordes."

There was no ban on European immigrants. The law was equalized so that all nations got a similar quota. European immigration is low because, aside from the Irish and the Eastern Euros, they don't want to leave. Look at immigration from Japan: a trickle; but Korea, China, and the Philippines send plenty. On the east coast, there are a lot of African and Carribean immigrants. What do these situations have in common? There's unemployment!

Umm... as for the condition of cities... are Detroit and DC considered sites for major migration? LA is doing okay compared to the rust belt. Someone must be buying the $250k houses in the "ghetto". NYC has massive immigration, but they are still wealthy. San Francisco too. San Diego is a haven for hate, but it's doing well despite its proximity to Tijuana (which is really just another part of SD).

It's not all hunky dory, though. Poverty is up in these cities -- there's something else also going on. Globalization is creating a new upper class that derives profits offshore. Right now, it's China and Taiwan in the spotlight, but, soon, I bet you'll start seeing similar kinds of business arrangements with people from India, Russia, Mexico, Iraq, some Eastern Europe nations, maybe the Philippines, Korea, and maybe the Carribean nations.

It's the international bourgeoisie, racing for the dollars.

This is the Dana Rorbacher fan club. These racist, nationalist assholes are his electorate. Whose side are you on, Republicans.

>>>> I can't speak for hostiles, only myself. Opinions vary on the subject of immigration. I'm against illegal immigration, first and foremost, because it's illegal, and second, because of the waste of American taxpayer dollars by their being here. They're creating problems that we wouldn't have had with secure borders.

>>> I find it very hypocritical (but no surprising) that the same leftists decrying stopping terrorists and tyrants demand we pay to support all of Mexico.

Praxis misses a point - the people coming from Mexico are often value-added. Even the illegals are relatively well educated, but have hit their glass ceiling. There's a lot of unemployment in Mexico.

>>> To apply "glass ceiling" to illegals is re-diculous. They don't belong in the building int he first place.

NAFTA and maquiladoras were sold to the race-baiters in America as a way to improve the economy there, but it has only exacerbated the problem. I guess that's what they get for believing big business!

>>> You gave the failed (ongoing) welfare state over 50 years but already have declared NAFTA a failure in less than 10? Cut some slack.

"the reference is to the warped immigration laws of 1965 which put a ban on European immigrants while opening the door for turd world hordes."

There was no ban on European immigrants. The law was equalized so that all nations got a similar quota. European immigration is low because, aside from the Irish and the Eastern Euros, they don't want to leave. Look at immigration from Japan: a trickle; but Korea, China, and the Philippines send plenty. On the east coast, there are a lot of African and Carribean immigrants. What do these situations have in common? There's unemployment!

>>> Actually, the national origins quota system was abolished in 1965. The new method, "Family unification" allowed 3rd Worlders to come here in unlimited numbers. The idea that Europeans suddenly “didn’t want to leave” is baloney. In one year, of the 7.6 million “lottery postcard applications to the State Department, 3.5 million were from Europe.

Umm... as for the condition of cities... are Detroit and DC considered sites for major migration? LA is doing okay compared to the rust belt. Someone must be buying the $250k houses in the "ghetto". NYC has massive immigration, but they are still wealthy. San Francisco too. San Diego is a haven for hate, but it's doing well despite its proximity to Tijuana (which is really just another part of SD).

>>>> I don’t know why Detroit was mentioned either. But it’s too late for New New Mexico (f.k.a. Los Angeles).

It's not all hunky dory, though. Poverty is up in these cities -- there's something else also going on. Globalization is creating a new upper class that derives profits offshore. Right now, it's China and Taiwan in the spotlight, but, soon, I bet you'll start seeing similar kinds of business arrangements with people from India, Russia, Mexico, Iraq, some Eastern Europe nations, maybe the Philippines, Korea, and maybe the Carribean nations.

It's the international bourgeoisie, racing for the dollars.

>>> I view globalization as being a force for good. The more companies that “race for the dollars” the more opportunities for poor nations on the sidelines to join the race.

>>> There’s nothing wrong in taking pride in being a “white, Euro-American” or being proud of one’s country. And saying No to an illegal invasion.

I posted on this thread as the following:

Walker, Texas Plumber
Praxis
ergo
Simple Simon
peepdog

The US government pays me to disrupt this website. Too bad I'm not any good at it.