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by David Arthur Johnston
Wednesday, May. 12, 2004 at 5:05 PM
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How Do I Stop Using Money? - I just rather be dead than use money- I don't worry about owning anything, which is funny because once you are of that mind you find that whatever you need is in front of you when you need it. I survive by the 'grace of God'- good karma, dumpsters and wild food (many 'weeds' are food). I survive by understanding that control is an illusion (understanding fearlessness) and knowing that anything can only 'be', not 'do' or 'try'. When we are not afraid we move most efficiently towards love (which is our true self). So, the problem is- how does a whole population get to the point of trusting in sharing?- begin sharing and have infinite patience. We each find our inspirations move toward love with whatever skills or opportunities we have. So, understand that if someone makes you angry that they 'control' you. Be patient in the face of all torment... and have patience with yourself because it is a practice thing- and we are coming from a world that is crazy- so we, ourselves, have been infected a bit... so practice practice practice--- patience patience patience--- and you find your thoughts being efficient towards your own happiness- we define what makes us sad and we deal with it------ what is happening in the world right now is like God cramming for a final exam- it gets very hectic, though we pull through- it is a thought that saves us... how fast can a thought travel?--- patience (the root of wisdom). love, me David Arthur Johnston Victoria, BC, Canada Hatrackman@Yahoo.com http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman
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by rabif
Thursday, May. 13, 2004 at 2:03 PM
When money is forced on you or you find some then save it in a wooden box. After you reach $100+ send it to me. I'll dispose it for you, free of charge. No cost to you.
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by lucius
Thursday, May. 13, 2004 at 3:35 PM
David,
Your views are interesting, but not a practical model for social change. Most people would never be willing to go to such extremes. I'm not at social baseline in a lot of ways, but just take me as a case in point. I settle for being aware that money CAN corrupt one's values, enjoying material things but being wary of gluttony, and appreciating specific products of postindustrial civilization, like the Internet, which allows us to communicate right now.
You can keep your views, and maybe support a social movement that you believe to be important, but get too extreme and you will be isolated. It is the way of the world. People who aren't afraid to flirt with the status quo, yet aren't automatons either, tend to make the most significant changes. I am not too close to center myself (for instance, my cosmology of life blends various Eastern, Western, and aboriginal religious concepts), but this is my impression of how things work.
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by Fred G. Sanford
Friday, May. 14, 2004 at 10:23 AM
Wanna know what I think? I think you're a FRUITcake.
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by lucius
Friday, May. 14, 2004 at 6:21 PM
I'm staggered. How incisive of you. If you don't watch out, you'll give me a persecution complex. You're making me all nostalgic about middle school, a time of naiveté--a time when shit comments like yours seemed to actually prove something.
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by lucius
Saturday, May. 15, 2004 at 11:58 AM
Dance, reptile boy!
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