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by Heckraiser
Friday, Apr. 30, 2004 at 9:25 PM
"...gave away million -- 10 percent of their company's gross revenues...at least half of that money went to...Operation Save America -- the same organization that blamed the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on God's retribution for abortions..."
Curves [TM] gyms fund anti-choice extremists! Make sure all their members know!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/04/29/EDGAB6C1IO1.DTL
"In 2003, Heavin and his wife gave away million -- 10 percent of their company's gross revenues...at least half of that money went to...Operation Save America -- the same organization that blamed the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on God's retribution for abortions..."
Spread the word at these forums for Curves members:
http://www.google.ca/search?q=curves+forum&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&meta=
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by correcting LIEberals
Saturday, May. 01, 2004 at 4:22 AM
http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/curves.asp as usual, LIEberals try to keep the facts at bay to spread their propaganda.
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by Ironspam
Saturday, May. 01, 2004 at 9:51 AM
Who is a liar?
'In an article in Christianity Today, Heavin expressed pride in his involvement with anti-choice groups, to which he donates 10 percent of Curves' profits. You may do with this information what you will.'
from your link.
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by Merry H.
Saturday, May. 01, 2004 at 7:37 PM
I heard about this a while back and looked up quite a few articles, mainly from anti-choice Christian sites. After finding it all to be true I made up a sign and protested our local Curves. I also handed out some information sheets with facts and website links on them. Bad enough that a MAN is getting rich off a chain of WOMEN'S gyms, but he donates to groups that go against a right that women have fougt so hard to have!!! He's a creep and the whole situation is simply outrageous!!!
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by more rational
Saturday, May. 01, 2004 at 9:28 PM
The person accusing the poster of lying is full of it.
Curves does give money to them. Also, the Snopes site says as much, though the articles contention is that Jon Carroll made a few errors, not factual, but errors of bias... and makes the major contention that supporting a corporation owned by an anti-choice activist is not the same as supporting the owner who in turn supports anti-choice groups.
That argument is pretty bogus. If you patronize someone's business, you, very directly, support their paycheck, and indirectly support any charities they favor.
Just ask anyone who owns a business. They see their customers as supporters and allies in life... or as suckers and victims waiting to be milked. Presumably, being a Christian, the founder of Curves should think of his customers as the former... but you never know.
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by mister patriarchy
Tuesday, May. 04, 2004 at 5:17 PM
Before this post gets censored by the same indy-media "overladys" whose claims to support "free speech" I find dubious and fraudulent, I would like to mention that the anti-abortion movement is not composed of women enslaved by "patriarchy" going along with Right to Live, et al., just because The Man (or some Man, or the desire to make some Man "happy") is making them.
The overwhelming majority of women involved in anti-abortion organizations do so of their own free will, because they know what a quagmire of badness abortion and the Abortion Industry is, top to bottom, from "Counselors" who are more interested in selling abortions than giving actual conseling, to a shockingly high proportion of (male patriarch) abortion providers who are either incompetent, abusive, criminal, negligent, or all of the above, from an on-going "media blitz" that looks to play up the solemn and (quasi)divine aspects of "The Right To Choose", and looks to silence all the nasty aspects of abortion, to the horror that female workers in abortion clinics either feel (when vacuuming out an embryo, or seeing a heart beating on an ultrasound) or choose to willfully supress.
Patriarchy may be dying, but so is Abortion.
I guess this is why NRL's membership is (roughly) ONE HUNDRED TIMES the size of NARAL. Don't discount the ranks of women who have had abortions or worked in clinics at one time, being impacted so deeply by what a bad deal Abortion is all the way around, that they join NRL.
Ha, ha, ha. Liberal arrogance only serves to hasten its own destruction.
As for Curves: it only shows that the body politic of women at large could really give a rip about the rantings and ravings of the academic liberal leftist types who blow daddy's trust fund on tuition and airfares to all the latest hip Protest sites.
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by tomatillo
Friday, May. 07, 2004 at 2:53 PM
On 4/30/04, Curves International published a release that clarifies exactly what Gary Heavin gives to. It's not Operation Save America. The Heavins have pledged million a year to three charities in central Texas: Care Net, the Family Practice Center, and the Abstinence Project. The San Francisco Chronicle published a "clarification" on 5/3/04. You can read the Curves release on http://www.curversforchoice.org. More info about these three charities will be available there soon. There's no doubt that Gary Heavin is pro-life, but what he's giving to is not nearly as dramatic or, in my view, radical, as the original press coverage implied. And with 2 million customers, if half of them are pro-choice (non unlikely since that is roughly the breakdown of the entire US population, according to Gallup), that's A MILLION pro-choice customers of Curves, who could easily counter the Heavins million a year with donations to pro-choice causes.
www.curversforchoice.org
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by GYM FANATIC
Tuesday, May. 11, 2004 at 8:53 AM
I WILL NEVER GO TO CURVES. I WILL CONTINUE WORKING OUT LADIES WORKOUT EXPRESS. I LOVE IT THERE. I STARTED 2 WEEKS AGO. THEY HAVE A LARGE WORKOUT AREA AND ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF MY NEEDS. AS A SINGLE MOM AND FULL TIME WORKER. I WOULD NEVER WORK OUT SOMEWHERE THAT PLACES MY HARD EARNED MONEY TOWARDS POLITICAL VIEWS. NO MATTER WHAT THEY ARE.
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by hey gym fanatic
Wednesday, May. 12, 2004 at 6:42 PM
What are you doing out of the kitchen, little lady?
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by tomatillo
Friday, May. 14, 2004 at 2:27 PM
It's not often that a major newspaper runs a correction this lengthy:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgif=/c/a/2004/05/13/MNGSK6KBQH1.DTL
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by tomatillo
Friday, May. 14, 2004 at 2:28 PM
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