Working on this new server in php7...
imc indymedia

Los Angeles Indymedia : Activist News

white themeblack themered themetheme help
About Us Contact Us Calendar Publish RSS
Features
latest news
best of news
syndication
commentary


KILLRADIO

VozMob

ABCF LA

A-Infos Radio

Indymedia On Air

Dope-X-Resistance-LA List

LAAMN List




IMC Network:

Original Cities

www.indymedia.org africa: ambazonia canarias estrecho / madiaq kenya nigeria south africa canada: hamilton london, ontario maritimes montreal ontario ottawa quebec thunder bay vancouver victoria windsor winnipeg east asia: burma jakarta japan korea manila qc europe: abruzzo alacant andorra antwerpen armenia athens austria barcelona belarus belgium belgrade bristol brussels bulgaria calabria croatia cyprus emilia-romagna estrecho / madiaq euskal herria galiza germany grenoble hungary ireland istanbul italy la plana liege liguria lille linksunten lombardia london madrid malta marseille nantes napoli netherlands nice northern england norway oost-vlaanderen paris/Île-de-france patras piemonte poland portugal roma romania russia saint-petersburg scotland sverige switzerland thessaloniki torun toscana toulouse ukraine united kingdom valencia latin america: argentina bolivia chiapas chile chile sur cmi brasil colombia ecuador mexico peru puerto rico qollasuyu rosario santiago tijuana uruguay valparaiso venezuela venezuela oceania: adelaide aotearoa brisbane burma darwin jakarta manila melbourne perth qc sydney south asia: india mumbai united states: arizona arkansas asheville atlanta austin baltimore big muddy binghamton boston buffalo charlottesville chicago cleveland colorado columbus dc hawaii houston hudson mohawk kansas city la madison maine miami michigan milwaukee minneapolis/st. paul new hampshire new jersey new mexico new orleans north carolina north texas nyc oklahoma philadelphia pittsburgh portland richmond rochester rogue valley saint louis san diego san francisco san francisco bay area santa barbara santa cruz, ca sarasota seattle tampa bay tennessee urbana-champaign vermont western mass worcester west asia: armenia beirut israel palestine process: fbi/legal updates mailing lists process & imc docs tech volunteer projects: print radio satellite tv video regions: oceania united states topics: biotech

Surviving Cities

www.indymedia.org africa: canada: quebec east asia: japan europe: athens barcelona belgium bristol brussels cyprus germany grenoble ireland istanbul lille linksunten nantes netherlands norway portugal united kingdom latin america: argentina cmi brasil rosario oceania: aotearoa united states: austin big muddy binghamton boston chicago columbus la michigan nyc portland rochester saint louis san diego san francisco bay area santa cruz, ca tennessee urbana-champaign worcester west asia: palestine process: fbi/legal updates process & imc docs projects: radio satellite tv
printable version - js reader version - view hidden posts - tags and related articles

View article without comments

Cause for concern?

by Paul King Sunday, Feb. 29, 2004 at 6:19 AM

Million are being spent in Canada or teens 'AIDS' awareness but the official statistics paint a very different picture of the 'epidemic' that never was.

Table 1: Number of reported AIDS Cases with Associated Exposure Categories (%) for Individuals 10 to 24 Years of Age in Canada, Diagnosed up to June 30, 2002. Totals for all cases since 1983 (20 + years).

Category

10 -19 years of age - 87. Percentage of total 0.5%.

Cases per year - 3.35

Only 7% or 6 teen hetero cases in TWENTY YEARS. SOME EPIDEMIC!

20-24 years of age - 540. Percentage of total 2.9%.

Cases per year - 27



CHECK HERE

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/pphb-dgspsp/publicat/epiu-aepi/hiv-vih/youth_e.html

______

The interesting thing about the statistics on this official site is the charts of other std (not that 'AIDS' is either an std or even a syndrome).

They show that the VAST majority of cases are in their teens while a mere HALF PER CENT of 'AIDS' cases are teenagers and only 2.9% in their early twenties.

Clearly this does NOT fit the pattern of a sexually transmitted disease.

Report this post as:

..and in America

by Paul King Sunday, Feb. 29, 2004 at 6:21 AM

CAUCASIAN TEEN 'AIDS' CASES (entire USA) BETWEEN July 1983 and December 2001 = 1211 (male and female).

Source: - CDC

TWELVE HUNDRED AND ELEVEN in nearly 18 years or a mere 67 cases a year.

JUST OVER ONE CAUCASIAN TEEN 'AIDS' CASE PER U.S. STATE A YEAR.

HARDLY AN 'EPIDEMIC!

That figure of 1.28 cases per State is lower than gun shotdeaths in the Mac Arthur Park area of Los Angeles in a single month.

Check for yourself (don't take our word for it) at: - http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hasr1302/table7.htm

IN CONTRAST

In the same period people over 60 (caucasian) had 9,338 cases.

Those old folks must be sex mad - Nine times MORE sex than teenagers.

....or could it just be that 'AIDS' is not an std? Surely not? God forbid! Perish the thought!

Report this post as:

Amazing info

by Dagmar Lohmeyer Sunday, Feb. 29, 2004 at 10:25 AM

FANTASTIC POST. Everything checks out and it has really made me think. Please post more like this.

Report this post as:

it's because teens aren't having sex with older people

by more rational Monday, Mar. 01, 2004 at 9:25 PM

Most teenagers are having sex with each other -- they are a network of partners who are relatively clean. If they start having sex with older people, they will be at greater risk of getting AIDS.

If they continue this behavoir into their 20s, their risk factor goes up exponentially, as they encounter more partners who are likely to be exposed to a wider range of people, including drug abusers.

Do the math. It's obvious why they don't get AIDS.

The real shame is that more money isn't directed to the communities that are facing the worst AIDS problems: adult people of color and immigrants. The safer-sex message isn't sinking in so well into these communities.

Report this post as:

WRONG

by Paul King Wednesday, Mar. 03, 2004 at 12:05 AM

The interesting thing about the statistics on this official site is the charts of other std (not that 'AIDS' is either an std or even a syndrome).

They show that the VAST majority of cases are in their teens while a mere HALF PER CENT of 'AIDS' cases are teenagers and only 2.9% in their early twenties.

Clearly this does NOT fit the pattern of a sexually transmitted disease.

Report this post as:

Read posts before making up 'apologies'

by Paul King Wednesday, Mar. 03, 2004 at 12:08 AM

Your post was an example of apologising for the 'AIDS' myth without even reviewing the facts or reading the post in question.

ALL OTHER STD'S AFFLICT THE YOUNG MOST, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

The 10-year Padian study observed sexually active

couples in which one partner was HIV positive. The result: in 10 years, not

one uninfected partner contracted HIV, even though all participants admitted

to having sex without condoms. The study states, 'We followed up 175

HIV-discordant couples over time, for a total of approximately 282

couple-years of follow up. The longest duration of follow-up was 12 visits

(6 years). We observed no seroconversion [infection] after entry into the

study." In the three-year Stewart study (1985) not one male partner of

HIV-positive women contracted HIV. Prostitution is not even listed as an HIV

risk category by the CDC, because of the extremely low incidence of HIV

transmission to clients who have no other risk factors (i.e. drug abuse).

These findings bolster the hypothesis of some AIDS scientists that chronic

malnutrition and other environmental factors, and not a sexually-transmitted

virus, are the causes of weakened immunity in people diagnosed with one of

the nearly 30 AIDS-defining diseases (which vary from country to country).

Report this post as:

std infections

by more rational Wednesday, Mar. 03, 2004 at 3:00 AM

You can't really compare HIV infection to infection by chlamydia or gonnorhea. The latter are bacterial and passed through body fluids: mucus and saliva. You can pass it through oral sex, which is more popular with youth than ever, it seems. Some other big stis like herpes and genital warts are passed on from intimate skin contact. HIV transmission requires the exchange of blood.

Thus, HIV transmission requires particular behaviors that exacerbate contact with blood. Sharing needles, anal sex without a condom, eating semen after oral sex, and any other fluid exchange over cuts, sores, and abrasions. In other words, it's harder to get AIDS.

AIDS is not a myth.

It's really inaccurate to label a bunch of diseases STIs and expect them to work the same way. HIV is blood-borne, genital warts and herpes are viruses on the skin, other ones are bacterial infections that are transmitted through fluids.

Report this post as:

AIDS IS A MYTH

by Paul King Wednesday, Mar. 03, 2004 at 6:25 AM

AIDS IS A MYTH...
terror_campaign.jpg51eflt.jpg, image/jpeg, 504x720

"If there is evidence that HIV causes AIDS, there should be scientific documents which

either singly or collectively demonstrate that fact, at least with a high probability. There

is no such document."

Dr. Kary Mullis, Biochemist, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry.



"Up to today there is actually no single scientifically really convincing evidence for the

existence of HIV. Not even once such a retrovirus has been isolated and purified by the

methods of classical virology."

Dr. Heinz Ludwig Sänger, Emeritus Professor of Molecular Biology and Virology,

Max-Planck-Institutes for Biochemy, München.

Report this post as:

CDC TEEN COVER-UP

by Paul King Wednesday, Mar. 03, 2004 at 6:29 AM

CDC TEEN COVER-UP...
cdc_teen_deception.jpgjjn9sh.jpg, image/jpeg, 600x1057



"The people need wholesome fear; they want to fear something. They want someone to frighten them and make them shudderingly

submissive."

- Ernst Roehm, gay leader of the Nazi SA Brownshirts

"We have created our myth. The myth is a faith, a passion. It is not necessary for it to be a reality."

- Benito Mussolini, The Naples Speech, 1922

"The power of such a method to force changes in cultural values is based on careful manipulation of fear. Ideally, health promotion

messages should heighten an individual's perceptions of threat and his or her capacity to respond to that threat, thus modulating the level of

fear...What is not yet known is how to introduce fear in the right way in a particular message intended for a particular audience. Acquiring

that knowledge will require planned variations of AIDS education programs that are carefully executed and then carefully evaluated".

Pages 267-8 and 373.- 1989 National Research Council/CDC Internal Report
Report this post as:

AIDS Apologists VS AIDS Dissidents - The Truth About AIDS Denialists

by AIDS TRUTHS Saturday, Apr. 10, 2004 at 3:14 AM

AIDS Apologists VS AIDS Dissidents - Truths About AIDS Denialists

AIDS apologists  are those who know HIV leads to AIDS (proven by science, so much scientific proof) and we are defending the scientifically known fact that viral pathogenesis and progression of 'HIV to AIDS'  causes  the eventual need for combination therapies to prolong life. Mixed "AIDS Apologist" links here or find comments here from both sides (dissidents and the scientific community), but still about AIDS Apologist activities...

AIDS dissidents (better known as AIDS Denialists who are AIDS dissidence, dissidence is anti-establishment like, against science and progression, argumentative) deny HIV causes AIDS and claim the medications kill the patients (AZT "over use" alone started this myth in the late 80s, but medicine combo/therapies are working today in the year 2000+). Basically a group of non doctors and non scientists who challenge the conventional HIV/AIDS model or hypothesis and do not accept the proven evidence. These dissident groups seem almost fanatical by them posting the same message multiple times to a targeted list of internet websites (non dissident sites of course, clogging up the normal flow of reading material with intentions of shutting the sites down) and insulting/bashing anyone who may not agree.

What are AIDS dissidents? Find out who, what, where, when and why:
http://www.hivforum.com/?dissident=dissident+site:aegis.com

What are AIDS denialists all about? See the myths exposed:
http://www.hivforum.com/?dissident=dissident+site:thebody.com

Learn about how they are murdering HIV positive people:
http://www.medchecker.com/dissident/aids-dissidents.htm

Thanks.
http://www.HIVforum.com



















































Report this post as:

SICK!!!

by Aletta Sunday, Apr. 11, 2004 at 1:16 AM

I checked out your rant on Medchecker and you are in serious need of treatment.

Accusing dissidents of 'failed sex change operations' is the deluded ravings of a seriously sick man.

Report this post as:

denial kills

by more rational Sunday, Apr. 11, 2004 at 6:35 PM

AIDS Denial Kills

If you want to lowdown on these posts about AIDS, read this article, linked. These AIDS deniers, in case you can't tell, are all heterosexual men promoting sex without condoms.

http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-nyc-editorial/2003-October/003110.html

from the article:

"AIDS is not a myth. That is the plain fact. From looking at what happened in San Francisco with this issue a couple of years back back, we can see that the folks who aggressively promote the "don't use condoms" and "stop taking your medicine" schools of thought are not principled. In fact, there was one well-publicized case where some of these "activists" required restraining orders for stalking and harrassing individuals with whom they disagreed. We can also see this behavior in recent spam on the wire calling non-denialists "Jacobin Pharma-Fags." This is in reference to their theory that the ENTIRE AIDS movement (and medical establishment and governments of third world countries who are creating generic versions of life-saving drugs) have been bought out by pharmaceutical companies. Fascinating theory. Great delivery."

Report this post as:

AIDS DISSIDENTS EXPOSED!

by GOD (grouping out dissidents) Tuesday, Aug. 10, 2004 at 6:51 AM

*Dear webmaster, we see your group/forum is being attacked by AIDS dissidents (we have had the same problem from sites like dissidentaction and virusmyth or from paulking, so we are warning you). Please make sure you block domain names listed on http://www.medchecker.com/dissident/aids-dissidents.htm . You must do what you can to stop these web terroists/trolls before they take over your web site and any rational conversations!

Report this post as:

READ THE FACTS

by TRUTH Saturday, Oct. 16, 2004 at 6:38 PM

Report this post as:

© 2000-2018 Los Angeles Independent Media Center. Unless otherwise stated by the author, all content is free for non-commercial reuse, reprint, and rebroadcast, on the net and elsewhere. Opinions are those of the contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Los Angeles Independent Media Center. Running sf-active v0.9.4 Disclaimer | Privacy