Please select the URL for further information. Surprisingly this is a site referred to by www.bushwatch.org. People should have full access to information involving any party instead of acting deaf, dumb and blind.

I can't even list how many times I've heard others on the left beating their chests about "the democracts" and "the liberals." We all know about the democracts and the liberals. It is a mental defect to think that bashing X means supporting Y, especially when X and Y are not opposites. You aren't the first one to point out that the democrats suck. We know they suck. However, right now we have an extreme fascist in the White House and that extreme fascist is the president. Why would we waste our time attacking a guy that is not even president yet when we have a real fucking loser in the White House already to bash?

You and I both know that the next president will be a democrat or a republican, no matter what we do. Why spend our energy trying to prove that we oppose the democratic party too when we have a target already?

Bush is in a position of high authority. Anti-authoritarians will naturally attack him. When Kerry is president, we'll attack him too. Do you really think we're just attacking the man? Where attacking the office. Grow up and stop bleating your rhetorical bullshit.

Nader took vital votes away from Gore last time, that's the real reason he lost;

Don't split the vote this time, it's crucial. A vote for anyone other than Democrat is a wasted vote.

Don't split the vote this time, it's crucial. A vote for anyone other than Democrat is a wasted vote

it wasn't Nader, it was Katheren Harris and the toads in the Supreme Court.

If we had't lost votes to Nader the surgically enhanced Gorgon in Florida would have been powerless to prevent a Gore victory. In other words, we wouldn't have needed to win Florida.

Geddit????

But you're wrong. Not to say green is 100% right, but it still disturbs me that after the sham of democracy which went down in Florida, Democrats still seek to blame Nader as the only factor in the 2000 election. Nader was a factor, but he wasn't the only factor. He also wasn't the most important factor. Gore lost primarily because Florida, a state run by Bush's brother and the manager of his campaign in such state, systematically and purposefully cut minorities off the voter rolls. Even that wasn't enough, so Republicans simply protested to get the recount, which Gore would have won, shut down.

It disturbs me that in the face of a massive violation of democratic and civil rights and harks back to the days of Jim Crow, some Democrats still insist that the 2000 election was all Nader's fault. Nader's candidancy helped to enable Florida to be the deciding factor in the 2000 election, but that's it. Why don't Democrats focus on what actually happened in Florida that caused Bush to get into office? These are definitive problems with Democracy that you are chooising to sweep under the rug while scapegoating a man who dared to run a campaign on his ideals. That's just wrong. I wish Democrats would forget about Nader, a lesser factor in 2000, and focus on the real problems from that election, and actually showed some concerned that these problems wouldn't repeat themselves in the future.

-to be insulting...

But to vote only to go againts a particular stooge for the puppet masters is a waste of time.

just like waiting for the intelligence level to rise on the average.

I blame TV

The African American leadership wanted to push the issue of disenfranchisement, but Gore passed on it.

The Democrats could have fought harder, but they gave up. I wish I knew why. Did the Reps have something on them?

In any event, one thing about Democrats that bugs is their "middle of the road team player" attitude to this upcoming election. Kerry needs his ass lit up some. If he's going to win the nomination, he should at least throw some scraps to the left wing. So many are caving in and voting for the two-faced rich boy that they deserve *something*. (By two-faced rich boy, I mean Kerry, not Bush.)

"Even that wasn't enough, so Republicans simply protested to get the recount, which Gore would have won, shut down. "

You do know of course, that there were THREE recounts done. All of which resulted in THREE more wins for Bush.

Just throwing that out there.

I know that the Dems think that Florida should have kept recounting ad nauseum until the results favored them but oh well....