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The Racist Tapestry of Lord of the Rings!

by Lloyd Hart Thursday, Dec. 25, 2003 at 11:27 AM
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I don't imagine that it was the intention of the director or the producers of the Lord of the Rings films to paint a racist stereotypical tapestry over what could be described as a basic set of principles of humanity's behavior in the natural environment and with each other.

The Racist Tapestry of Lord of the Rings!

By Lloyd Hart

I don't imagine that it was the intention of the director or the producers of the Lord of the Rings films to paint a racist stereotypical tapestry over what could be described as a basic set of principles of humanity's behavior in the natural environment and with each other. However, the fact is that the only people of skin color in the entire three part series of films are all associated with the Dark Lord Sauron, the destruction of the earth and all of its occupants. Not to mention the elephant riding mercenaries that resemble the cultures of the Arab world as well as Africa, Persia and East Asia and the fact that the Monarch of the land of Rohan, King Théoden a white guy yelled out "You great warriors of the West" in the final part of his speech to rouse the troops into battle in the third film.

In these times when a homicidal maniac from Texas (the Texas capital punishment policy under Bush) has stolen the American throne and called for a "crusade" against the "evil doers" in nations that white people have been invading, terrorizing, raping and pillaging in for 5000 years with zero provocation, I think we could manage some cultural sensitivity in our popular culture which one must acknowledge has a powerful propaganda affect on the general population that participates in it.

Can you imagine how people of skin color, of Persian, Arab and East Asian ethnic background feel when they come out of these films where all the heroes are white and all the "evil doers" are of dark skin. Being married to an Asian American I watch people disregard my wife everyday while regarding me, simply because of her skin color. Being part of a European family that has lived on the North American continent for 400 years I've been lucky enough to gain perspective that when you create an evil character (Uruk-hai) that resembles native Americans as they have done in the Lord of the Rings films a great deal of cultural and racial alienation will occur.

I am sure that once the filmmakers read this article there will be claims that they had to stay true to the story that J. R. R. Tolkien wrote, but the fact is, African and Asian cultures have always been a part of the European fabric whose ancient legends and fairy tales gave birth to J. R. R. Tolkien's epic portrayal of the battle between good and evil. And what about the Ancient Picts, a tattooed darker skinned cultured that once dominant in the UK. As someone who has grown up in one of the nation's of the Commonwealth of the British Empire, I know for a fact that J. R. R. Tolkien's generation were deeply influenced and thus deeply moved by all those people of skin color that fought alongside white members of the British forces in World War One and World War Two forming lifelong friendships and deep emotional ties.

In fact all Europe's mathematics, reading and writing and technological advancements in transportation and warfare are all based on African and Asian concepts. The reason that Western medicine has not advanced to the enlightened technological level as Chinese herbal medicine and why most Western technology is diametrically opposed to all life on this planet, poisoning our air and water and causing widespread disease and death is for the simple fact that the Freemasons and the Church have not yet let go of the death grip they have on each other's throats. In other words, the enlightened knowledge that the church has attempted to destroy that the Freemasons attempted to save and capitalize on with Western patents has turned into a death struggle that has created destructive technological paradigms here in the West that are now being forced on the populations of the entire earth destabilizing life and bringing with them the pollution of the air and water that once existed only in Christendom.

Of course there are redeeming images and ideas portrayed in the films such as the Ents protecting the forests by destroying the industrial military complex as well as the fact that white people can be turned to evil to join forces with all the evil dark skinned man flesh eating Orcs and Uruk-hai.

It is important to understand that young people are impressionable and influenced by the symbols foisted on them by the popular culture. It would not have been that difficult to make a contemporary version of the Lord of the Rings that included the heroic symbols of people of skin color. I think J.R.R. Tolkien wouldn't have minded including people of skin color as heros in these films if he were alive today. Especially after witnessing the rise of the civil rights movements in both the U.S. and the U.K.. I'm so glad that the Dwarfs, Elves and Hobits finally got their due but unfortunately this was washed away by the lack of heroic images of people of skin color. After watching the Lord of the Rings films I thank the universe and Mother Earth for the Rap/hip-hop culture and the counterbalancing influence the Rap/hip-hop culture has on the youth here in America and around the world.

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I liked the movie...here's why

by Parmenides Thursday, Dec. 25, 2003 at 12:36 PM

The story of the Lord of the Rings is essentially about personal responsibility, perseverance, and the corroding influence of that very human evil -- greed. The troubling aspects of the film and novels are not unique to their authors or their authors cultures, in fact while these ‘Western’ values were being formulated and philosophically argued into existence the Carthaginians were sacrificing and slaughtering children, the Egyptians were claiming Pharaoh to be a god as a child and onward, and the Persians were using huge slave labor reservoirs to build palaces into which only the extreme upper class could enter. At the same time, the Greeks {formatters of our present culture} were building gymnasia, theaters, law courts, and assembly places for their own citizens…much as Tolkien envisioned in his fantasy worlds, and far different from the Asiatic and African 'influences' (although it would be wrong to dismiss them only as inferior.)

True there is much disturbing and vile about the current mercantile globalist nightmare, but the social contract is built through spirited debate and the questioning of good and evil, right and wrong. This is inherent in the literature of Western foundations and reincarnated in Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings.

Plus that spider scene was great.
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White Lies

by Lloyd Hart Thursday, Dec. 25, 2003 at 1:40 PM
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Your comments are just more white wash and white racist lies used to justify slaughter. Alexandra the great murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Rome laid waste to untold beautiful cultures. While the white people were enslaving the world the great phylosophical debates were being conducted in Bagdad and Bejing that ushered in an age of enlightenment.

While the Egyptians were practicing enlightened astronomy white people were living in caves

Your white history is nothing but lies to justify murder. Demonize the enemy so your troops will murder with impunity.

Western societies are simply the destruction of all life on this planet.
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Um,,,

by Barney Thursday, Dec. 25, 2003 at 2:17 PM

I think the achievemments of the Greeks sort of trumps anything achieved until the time of Cpernicus.

The Egyptians don't even get a look in. Pretty writing system but not a lot else. And who do you think built those pyramids?? Slaves - or maybe aliens.
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It's ok to disagree

by Parmenides Thursday, Dec. 25, 2003 at 3:21 PM

It's ok to disagree with me L. I will not defend myself, my actions have spoken just as loud as my words, but I will defend classical Western values, things that have been ignored and distorted by the present unjust war for oil and the psychopath-who-thinks-he-is-high-priest bush >>>fundamentalism is idiocy whether by Xerxes or the current stooge who thinks he runs our nation and planet.<<<

You might want to check out some Euripides, or even Sophocles Antigone...just for food for thought. There is a lot of value in there, just as there is in the Yoruban mysteries and the Tao Te Ching. My point is only to say that it is rather culturally imperialistic of us to dismiss classical values as being vapid just to secure some educational grant or satisfy some confused professor (and to promote racist beliefs about someone, hell thats what the zionists and their ilk are doing, and that is demonization of the enemy imho)...and that I liked Lord of the Rings.

Just saying that this killer was worse than that killer ignores the values and accomplishments that are just and good, as opposed to reactionary and myopic.

and as far as the chicken hawk Barney...the great poet Pindar wrote "...war is sweet to him who knows it not, but to him who has made trial of it, it is a thing to fear."
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Lloyd

by Reality Check Thursday, Dec. 25, 2003 at 4:12 PM

Hey Lloyd.... First, learn to spell.

Second: ITS JUST A MOVIE.

Third: You yourself state that the producers of the film probably never intended any racial overtones in the film. If that's true then the most they can be accused of is insensitivity. But only a hypersensitive crybaby who looks for racism in everything around him would make that accusation, LLOYD. You've managed to look complete beyond the actual message of the film only to discover a problem that isn't there.

Get a grip on reality.
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Reality Check

by Lloyd Hart Thursday, Dec. 25, 2003 at 4:32 PM

Tell it to the people in your ghettos created and maintained to this day by white american racism. It's just not a movie man, its' whiteman's reality.
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One thing for sure...

by Parmenides Thursday, Dec. 25, 2003 at 4:51 PM

Lloyd is a far better person and has a far more critical mind than the shills who pollute these webpages with their racist ignorance and one-dimensional rhetoric.

Don't mistake my comments in any way as siding with the bloody mouthed nihilists and corporate pawns. Their comments are only shadows of their own internal vacuity and selfishness.
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Lloyd

by Reality Check Thursday, Dec. 25, 2003 at 5:06 PM

I pretty much expected this sort of response from you.

Go ahead, look for racism in everything you see. In the end you'll only be looking at yourself.
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Parmenides

by Reality Check Thursday, Dec. 25, 2003 at 5:07 PM

Am I one of "the shills who pollute these webpages with their racist ignorance"?
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fresca

by fresca Thursday, Dec. 25, 2003 at 5:17 PM

LLoyd is a racist fool.

There's no two ways about it.

And parm..why don't you grow a pair and call a spade a spade (no pun intended hehe). Obviously Lloyd is an idiot and it doesn't make you a Republican to admit it.

HE thinks you're a racist lapdog so why are you so reluctant to call him what he is...a fucking racist fruitcake.

He's actually upset over The Lord of The Rings because he thinks it's a "whiteman's racist movie".

For Christ's sake parm...wake up. The guy's a fool.
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fresca

by fresca Thursday, Dec. 25, 2003 at 5:20 PM

"It's just not a movie man, its' whiteman's reality."

It's a MOVIE about fucking HOBBITS and ELVES and TALKING TREES for Christ's sake.

Do you hace ANY idea how fucking ridiculous you sound?
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Sword is glowing blue

by Parmenides Thursday, Dec. 25, 2003 at 5:25 PM

Looks like the Orcs have arrived...
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just a movie

by more rational Saturday, Dec. 27, 2003 at 10:29 PM

The "just a movie" argument holds no water, simply because these movies cost millions of dollars to make, and bring in many more millions in revenues. This series of movies is an economic force that thousands of people rely on for their living, especially in Los Angeles.

Just imagine trying to pitch a movie where all the evil people are white, and all the good people are black. It would not get funding.
.....

Though I don't agree with Lloyd's perspective (I think it's a simple inversion of "white is right"), I suspect that he's on point, because several other people (white people) have told me they're uneasy with the coloring of good and bad in the film. This, I don't think is because they're looking for racism, but because the color line's so stark that it doesn't jibe with their own reality, as white people in a multi-ethnic city. These aren't people I'd lump in with people who see racism in everything.

Reality Check's defense of "white is right" is absurd, just as the coloring of good and evil in this film is absurd.
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Jorus

by Kando Monday, Dec. 29, 2003 at 5:09 PM

"Just imagine trying to pitch a movie where all the evil people are white, and all the good people are black. It would not get funding. "

You just described almost any Spike Lee movie ;)

Kidding aside, though...

Lloyd, get a grip on yourself. I must admit that as a hispanic man, I find it fascinating when someone from another ethnicity entirely tells me what I should be offended by. Give it a rest, will ya? THAT, the notion of a white man patronizing me by trying to guide my reactions to the world around me, is offensive and degrading. I'm not someone for you to lead, I'm your equal. So stop treating "people of skin color", as you call us, as savages in need of guidance.

If I wanted to be harsh, I'd say you're suffering from a severe case of self-loathing. You're Michael Jackson in reverse. It's OK to be white, you know.

I'm going to let you in on a little secret, since you apparently never bothered to read Tolkien's works, and didn't give the films more than a passing glance: When Tolkien conceived his Middle-earth, he did so out of a desire to create a mythology for England, something he felt his homeland lacked, when compared to other nations and cultures. THAT, and no other, is the reasons his heroes are almost all white (what, did you forget about the aborigine-like Drúedain? Tsk, tsk, Lloyd), and their antagonists hail from regions that seem to mirror Asia and Africa.

His invented cultures are what they are because of geography, not racism.
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Give me a brake

by a little more rational Tuesday, Dec. 30, 2003 at 11:01 AM

"The "just a movie" argument holds no water, simply because these movies cost millions of dollars to make, and bring in many more millions in revenues. This series of movies is an economic force that thousands of people rely on for their living, especially in Los Angeles. "

If a cake is made with a lot of ingredients and lots of people eat it, is it still a cake. Last time I checked it was.

Lloyd, I hate to brake it to you, but you are an idiot. All your opinions about racist undertones in Tolkien and in the new movies are worthless, as that you dont know anything about what your talking about. If you had paid more attention to the story, and less time finding something to be offended about, you would realize that the "colored" people in the movie are in no way portrayed as evil. They made an alliance, thats all. In fact, there is one scene during the extended version of The Two Towers in which Faramir (I dont expect you to know who that is anyway, based on your original comment) openly says that he doesnt believe that one of the fallen soldiers from the south is really evil, but he thinks that he was probably forced into it through violence.

Now if you are also thinking that orcs are a racist undertone, that would be dificult as there not human, unless of course you are also an orc rights activist.

In the future, it would behove you to at least now what your criticizing before you open your mouth.

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get the facts straight

by Dan Tuesday, Dec. 30, 2003 at 12:34 PM
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Lloyd get your facts straight, as every american citizen has learned going to public schools, you need the electoral college's vote to win an election, Bush in no way stole the throne, in fact Gore tried to change the rules after the game started (talking chads here), name one sport where that is excepted.

Anyway you still need to understand slavery has existed is most societies at one point or another, America is the only one to have trouble with stopping this practice.
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Political Correctness- The EVIL of America

by Brian Tuesday, Dec. 30, 2003 at 5:52 PM
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Once again, another one of the EVIL PCers is trying to ruin the fun out of one of the greats in literature and cinema, just like it was for Star Wars Episode One with the Jar Jar situation. And I must ask, who do you think you are judging it racist.? Whatever happened to content of character, as the great MLK Jr. once said. You need to catch up on mythology. Now it is common sense not to be racist, but what you said is EVIL Political Correctness. If Lord Of The Rings IS racist, why don't I see the orcs and goblins wearing fire engine lipstick and carrying watermelon for dinner? That IS a racial steriotype.

Let me give you more examples of your idiocy.

1. The 2 main bad guys are Sauron, whom in the begining wore dark armor and thats it, and later was just a big red eye. Are you saying that is stereotypical of indians? The other main bad guy was Sarumon, A WHITE MAN who assisted Sauron in finding the ring and take over Middle Earth. And don't give me that white slave owner crap either because the goblins were sent by Sauron and the orcs were created. And the white hand was a symbol of the wizard's RANK, a calling card of sorts. Racist, I think not.

2. That excuse of "Great Warriors of the West"? Remember, that is Middle Earth, look up mythical in the dictionary.

3. Quoting you now "Being part of a European family that has lived on the North American continent for 400 years I've been lucky enough to gain perspective that when you create an evil character (Uruk-hai) that resembles native Americans as they have done in the Lord of the Rings films a great deal of cultural and racial alienation will occur."

I believe the author, JRR Tolken, was from England. I highly doubt he use Native Americans has models of the Uruk-Hai. That would make my friend, a full blooded Ojibawe (spelling may be wrong, but hey I try) and a high supporter of AIM, laugh his ass off. He loves LOTR.

4. Getting back to Orcs, if you DID watch the first film, orcs came from elves, WHITE PEOPLE in your eyes.

Maybe it is about time you stop PC Trolling everyone and see the big picture, and just have fun and not be ashamed of being a white man and not be racist at the same time. Remember, not the color of the skin, but the content of the character. And all this PC garbage, which must be destroyed just like racism, you have spewed out shows very little of good character you have. So stop the damn trolling.
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Igronance of The Current Average person

by Carl Oort Tuesday, Dec. 30, 2003 at 6:52 PM

Okay LOTR is FICTION. Look it up in the dictionary.
PC is SHIT...
And last but not least; If you want sympathy from me...
take your dictionary, you'll find it between shit and syphilis...
I must say i agree with Brian...
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Mr.

by AsianElvenPockySticks Tuesday, Dec. 30, 2003 at 10:37 PM

it's a movie... get over it.
find fault within yourself first, then admit yourself to a mental hospital... it's ppl who are overly concerned w/political correctiveness like yourself that tends to ruin the fun out of life... we can't even go out of our own yard w/out having to insult someone just by walking next to them.

yes i'm asian... and i don't care where these blasted creatures come from... whether they be a pointy eared have green blood and do mind melds, big hairy and enjoy shakespeare's hamlet... or even glow in the dark after they die once they know that the dark side is gone from within them... it's just a blasted movie.

[by the way, i play as orcs or elves in warcraft iii and they roc (pun inteded).]

serious note though... this is a man that used his own war experience to create a novel of such magnitude with great symbolize of life and war that you have the gall to turn this into a travesty of racism.
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The Lord of the Rings

by Frodo Lives! Tuesday, Dec. 30, 2003 at 10:47 PM

Lloyd,

This has got to be the stupidest thing I've ever read..... congragulations. I didn't realize there was Affirmative Action for mythologically based works of fiction. As already pointed out Tolkein wished to create a mythology for Anglo-Saxon peoples because he felt the Norman conquest had cut short the developement of A-S culture and much of their myths were lost during the conquest. Guess what? There weren't black or Arab or Native American Anglo-Saxons so his human heroes AND his villains (Saruman, the Nazgul, Wormtongue, the Barrow-Wights etc.) were white. The orcs weren't human.... they were once orcs who had been tortured by Sauron and so became orcs. It is interesting however that when you see the orcs you see people of color, are you maybe projecting your racist views onto Tolkein? I think so.

Please do two things for me.

1) Repeat "It's okay to be a white person" over and over again until you get over this assinine white guilt issue you have. You'll feel better if you do so.

2) Stop posting stupid shit. We'd all feel better if you do so.
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Error

by Frodo Lives! Tuesday, Dec. 30, 2003 at 11:35 PM

In my previous post where I say "....they were once orcs who had been tortured by Sauron...." should be ".....they [orcs] were once elves who had been tortured by Sauron...."
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It's fiction, Lloyd!

by Samwise Gamgee Wednesday, Dec. 31, 2003 at 1:00 PM

Lloyd, if you bothered to research Tolkien and his works, you would have actually learned something for once in your life.

Tolkien began the LOTR trilogy while in combat. He only had a few ideas, but he put his heart and soul into creating a complete dialect as well as a history and the worlds attached to it. He in NO way was writing the stories to show the evil of man, machine and technology or anything else. He wrote the stories for escapism and for his pure joy of writing. He and many of his friends in college loved to create new languages and the LOTR trilogy is the result of that.

In fact, Tolkien would get VERY angry when people tried to insinuate that he was writing a book about what was going on in the world at that time. Per Tolkien, the LOTR was nothing but a fantasy story with NO links to political ideologies.

But, if you would have actually done your homework, you might have found that out. Instead, you decide to think for Tolkien rather than attempting to even learn about the man.

Maybe you need Samwise Gamgee to come and help lift you up and get back on your feet. I know Frodo very much appreciated it.

Get a life and research before you write inept ideological rantings that hold no water.


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wow

by shocked white guy Wednesday, Dec. 31, 2003 at 4:14 PM

"Your comments are just more white wash and white racist lies used to justify slaughter. Alexandra the great murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Rome laid waste to untold beautiful cultures. While the white people were enslaving the world the great phylosophical debates were being conducted in Bagdad and Bejing that ushered in an age of enlightenment.

While the Egyptians were practicing enlightened astronomy white people were living in caves

Your white history is nothing but lies to justify murder. Demonize the enemy so your troops will murder with impunity.

Western societies are simply the destruction of all life on this planet." <--------------Thanks to this little gem we now know who the most racist person on this page is.
Lloyd Hart, I bow before your overwhelming stupidity and teenage angst. Please destroy your computer so you are not tempted to post any more of this horse shit. You can always just say the white man did it.
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Uruk-hai = Native Americans?!

by Get Real Wednesday, Dec. 31, 2003 at 4:46 PM

Lloyd Hart wrote:
Being part of a European family that has lived on the North American continent for 400 years I've been lucky enough to gain perspective that when you create an evil character (Uruk-hai) that resembles native Americans as they have done in the Lord of the Rings films a great deal of cultural and racial alienation will occur.


WTF? How on Earth can anyone think that the Uruk-hai resemble Native Americans? The Uruk wield swords, wear plate mail and steel helmets, is any of that equipment associated with Native Americans? The Uruks have grey skin, do Native americans have grey skin? The Uruks have fangs, cat eyes and claws, do Native Americans have any of those things?

Quite frankly I think it talks volumes of Lloyd Harts views on Native Americans if he truly beliefs that they bear ANY resemblance to the Uruk-hai... repeat after me, "Lloyd Hart is a racist."
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Brian

by no rebutal Wednesday, Dec. 31, 2003 at 7:32 PM
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So far, Pink Lloyd has yet to rebut. Don't worry, I got a ton more to point out that he is wrong, period.
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Enlightened Egyptians?

by Robert Struble Friday, Jan. 02, 2004 at 9:15 PM

"While the Egyptians were practicing enlightened astronomy white people were living in caves. Western societies are simply the destruction of all life on this planet."

Every civilization has risen on the backs (literally or figuratively) of its predecessors. This also includes the Chinese, Egyptians, African nations, Arabic nations, etc... No nation or culture has a unique claim to "purity". Scientific advance is a long series of steps and improvements on the works of others. Arab scholars invented much of the early mathematics. The Greeks adopted their works and improved upon them. It went from there. It's called research. No one debates the origins of these things. What's to be debated is the end result. China invented gunpowder well before the West but did no more than shoot off bottle rockets for centuries. They also invented moveable type but were burdened with a pictographic script and made little use of it also. It doesn't matter who invented something as much as who made the best use of it. Who sent men to the Moon and landed rovers on Mars? As much as you'd like to revere Chinese herb medicines, when you get into a car crash I don't doubt you'll be using a western doctor to sew your leg back on.
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Garvin Anders

by Garvin Anders Saturday, Jan. 03, 2004 at 6:25 PM
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"I should regret giving any colour to the notion that I subscribed to the wholly pernicious and unscientific race-doctrine." J.R.R Tolken

when discussing the origins of the name "Tolkien" in the final footnote to Letter #325, he says, "It is not Jewish in origin, though I should consider it an honour if it were." J.R.R Tolken

Many point to the "hierarchy" of the various groups of humans in the books as clear evidence of cultural elitism or racism, but they seem to forget that most of the Numenoreans (the "highest" humans) fell into deepest evil and were destroyed by God, while the Woses (the "Wild Men" of Druadan forest, who certainly would not represent "civilized" Europeans) were among the most wise and resistant to evil of all peoples (as well as having a complex culture and many skills other Men lacked), to take two of many examples

As for specific claims that Tolkien linked skin color to good and evil, there are simply too many exceptions for that to hold up. Light skinned characters who did evil things include Saruman, Grima, Gollum, Boromir, Denethor, and the Numenoreans as mentioned above. And it is notable that Tolkien described Forlong's people of Gondor and even the men of Bree as "swarthy."

Sam's flash of empathy for the fallen Southron he saw during the ambush indicates that many of Sauron's soldiers were likely unwilling slaves, not evil at heart.

In other words, Shut Up. Go and read a few books before you open your mouth. You want racism, yeah it's easy to find, look in a mirror. As a part Cherokee I am insulted that you compare me to an Urok Hai. Why? Because one of them used an bow and arrow?Because he had a white hand painted on his face?
Also they were called Warriors of the West because THEY LIVED IN THE WEST OF MIDDLE EARTH!!!! How shocking to call themselves westreners then.

Now if you wish to speak about Orc Rights, I think there are other places to do it.

Quotes taken from the Tolken FAQ.
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You're an asshat

by Greedo Saturday, Jan. 03, 2004 at 7:31 PM
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Yes, I said "asshat". I'm fascinated how you could have written so much, and yet said so little.
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PC run amok

by Robster Saturday, Jan. 03, 2004 at 9:26 PM

This is a prime example of political correctness (and apparently reverse racism, as well) at work.

Lloyd Hart is beneath contempt.

There's nothing else to add.
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Other Fiction

by Nobody Special Saturday, Jan. 03, 2004 at 11:08 PM

Ok...I won't verbally bash you, only because I don't know you; but so far you are not gaining respect points.

Your claims are not pushing it at all[sarcasim]. The only person creating these racial labels is you. Maybe I should turn the table and play my own race card as you seem to have done. Look at another box office hit, The Matrix. All the people in the human city of Zion are colored. The only white people are those released from the Matrix. Is that saying that colored people will out live the white people? Who knows...I'd rather not look at it that way. I'd rather look past skin color and see an entertaining movie.

P.S. -- Spike Lee's movies are actually pretty good; not for the racial perseverance but for it's art. Do the Right Thing and The 25th Hour were works of art, and very good works might I add.


Moral is: You put too much thought into that movie without looking at it from other people's viewpoints.
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WTF?

by Seriously? Tuesday, Jan. 06, 2004 at 1:55 AM

I stopped giving this guy credit pretty quickly once I started reading. You lose virtually all credibility as a writer once you are seen to disregard punctuation entirely and/or blame ANYTHING on the Freemasons.

Dumb people hiding behind an above-average vocabulary piss me off.


Seriously, the Freemasons? Good God.
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Ocular Profiling

by Aquinas Thursday, Jan. 08, 2004 at 8:18 AM

I think we're missing the true horror that Jackson's interpretation has unleashed: Anti-Big Flaming Eye. Thanks to his portrayal of Sauron, big flaming eyes everywhere will be linked with vile and evil acts. Little big flaming eyes will suffer ostracism and worse in our public schools. I myself am not a big flaming eye. But I have much respect for their culture and history, and I am horrified to see them stereotyped as such.

And don't even get me started on the stereotyping of freaky big spiders, short people with really hairy feet, and the undead...Excuse me, the living impaired.

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Lord of The Rings

by Tolkien Friday, Jan. 09, 2004 at 3:51 PM
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I guess that one could evaluate The Matrix as being anti-white because even though Neo was white, Morpheus and many of his compatriates and much of Zion, whom are made obvious during the dance sequence in the second part of the triology all had dark skin.
The agents were all white. Should I be offended that those who were trying to destroy humanity were nothing less than the white sector?
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The elves were chinese

by Andy LC Wednesday, Jan. 14, 2004 at 3:56 PM
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well... maybe not chinese specifically...

but the style of weapons used by the elves were purposely eastern
you could even say that the elven swords with the long grips were based off of chinese war swords, at a bit of a stretch, of course.

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Who is

by Kmac Thursday, Jan. 22, 2004 at 9:57 AM

I enjoyed all three movies with my kids ( boy 8yrs & girl 12yrs). They both understood the main themes; personal responsibility - resolve against evil.
As in their daily lives, they did not notice skin color in the films.

Yes there is racisim in our world. Lloyd Hart is a prime example of one who sees skin colour wherever he looks.


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