imc indymedia
white themeblack themered themetheme help
About Us Contact Us Subscribe Calendar Publish RSS
Features
latest news
best of news
syndication
commentary


KILLRADIO

CopWatch LA

ABCF LA





IMC Network: www.indymedia.org africa: ambazonia canarias estrecho / madiaq kenya nigeria south africa canada: hamilton london, ontario maritimes montreal ontario ottawa quebec thunder bay vancouver victoria windsor winnipeg east asia: burma jakarta japan korea manila qc europe: abruzzo alacant andorra antwerpen armenia athens austria barcelona belarus belgium belgrade bristol bulgaria calabria croatia cyprus emilia-romagna estrecho / madiaq euskal herria galiza germany grenoble hungary imc-london ireland istanbul italy la plana liege liguria lille linksunten lombardia madrid malta marseille nantes napoli netherlands nice norway oost-vlaanderen paris/ÃŽle-de-france patras piemonte poland portugal roma romania russia saint-petersburg scotland sverige switzerland thessaloniki torun toscana toulouse ukraine united kingdom valencia latin america: argentina bolivia chiapas chile chile sur cmi brasil colombia ecuador mexico peru puerto rico qollasuyu rosario santiago tijuana uruguay valparaiso venezuela venezuela oceania: adelaide aotearoa brisbane burma darwin jakarta manila melbourne perth qc sydney south asia: india mumbai united states: arizona arkansas asheville atlanta austin baltimore big muddy binghamton boston buffalo charlottesville chicago cleveland colorado columbus dc hawaii houston hudson mohawk kansas city la madison maine miami michigan milwaukee minneapolis/st. paul new hampshire new jersey new mexico new orleans north carolina north texas nyc oklahoma philadelphia pittsburgh portland richmond rochester rogue valley saint louis san diego san francisco san francisco bay area santa barbara santa cruz, ca sarasota seattle tampa bay tennessee urbana-champaign vermont western mass worcester west asia: armenia beirut israel palestine process: fbi/legal updates mailing lists process & imc docs tech volunteer projects: print radio satellite tv video regions: oceania united states topics: biotech
printable version - email this article - view hidden posts
link: ' onclick='this.focus();this.select()' />

Paul Krugman: It's fair to be uncivil when liberty is at stake
by Paul Krugman NYT Wednesday, Nov. 26, 2003 at 10:04 AM

'One of the problems with media coverage of this administration," wrote Eric Alterman in The Nation, "is that it requires bad manners." He's right. There's no nice way to explain how the Bush administration uses cooked numbers to sell its tax cuts, or how its arrogance and gullibility led to the current mess in Iraq. So it was predictable that the administration and its allies, no longer very successful at claiming that questioning the president is unpatriotic, would use appeals to good manners as a way to silence critics. Not, mind you, that Emily Post, the doyenne of etiquette, has taken over the Republican Party: The same people who denounce liberal incivility continue to impugn the motives of their opponents.

Copyright © 2002 The International Herald Tribune | http://www.iht.com

Paul Krugman: It's fair to be uncivil when liberty is at stake
Paul Krugman NYT

Wednesday, November 26, 2003
 
PRINCETON, New Jersey 'One of the problems with media coverage of this administration," wrote Eric Alterman in The Nation, "is that it requires bad manners." He's right. There's no nice way to explain how the Bush administration uses cooked numbers to sell its tax cuts, or how its arrogance and gullibility led to the current mess in Iraq.
So it was predictable that the administration and its allies, no longer very successful at claiming that questioning the president is unpatriotic, would use appeals to good manners as a way to silence critics. Not, mind you, that Emily Post, the doyenne of etiquette, has taken over the Republican Party: The same people who denounce liberal incivility continue to impugn the motives of their opponents.
Smart conservatives admit that their own side was a bit rude during the Clinton years. But now, they say, they've learned better, and it's those angry liberals who have a problem. The reality, however, is that they can only convince themselves that liberals have an anger problem by applying a double standard. When the conservative author Ann Coulter expresses regret that Timothy McVeigh didn't blow up The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal laughs it off as "tongue-in-cheek agitprop." But when the satirist Al Franken writes about lies and lying liars in a funny, but carefully researched book, he's degrading the discourse.
More important, the Bush administration - which likes to portray itself as the inheritor of Reagan-like optimism - actually has a Nixonian habit of demonizing its opponents.
For example, here's Bush on critics of his economic policies: "Some say, well, maybe the recession should have been deeper. It bothers me when people say that." Because he used the word "some," he didn't literally lie - no doubt a careful search will find someone, somewhere, who says the recession should have been deeper. But he clearly intended to suggest that those who disagree with his policies don't care about helping the economy.
And that's nothing compared with the tactics now being used on foreign policy.
The campaign against "political hate speech" originates with the Republican National Committee. But last week the committee unveiled its first ad for the 2004 campaign, and it's as hateful as they come. "Some are now attacking the president for attacking the terrorists," it declares.
Again, there's that weasel word "some." No doubt someone doesn't believe that we should attack terrorists. But the serious criticism of the president, as the committee knows very well, is the reverse: that after an initial victory in Afghanistan he shifted his attention - and crucial resources - from fighting terrorism to other projects.
What the critics say is that this loss of focus seriously damaged the campaign against terrorism. Strategic assets in limited supply, like Special Forces soldiers and Predator drone aircraft, were shifted from Afghanistan to Iraq, while intelligence resources, including translators, were shifted from the pursuit of Al Qaeda to the coming invasion. This probably allowed Qaeda members, including Osama bin Laden, to get away, and definitely helped the Taliban stage its ominous comeback. And the Iraq war has, by all accounts, done wonders for Qaeda recruiting. Is saying all this attacking the president for attacking the terrorists?
The ad was clearly intended to insinuate once again - without saying anything falsifiable - that there was a link between Iraq and Sept. 11. (Now that the Iraq venture has turned sour, this claim is suddenly making the rounds again, even though no significant new evidence has surfaced.) But it was also designed to imply that critics are soft on terror.
All this fuss about civility, then, is an attempt to bully critics into unilaterally disarming - into being demure and respectful of the president, even while his campaign chairman declares that the 2004 election will be a choice "between victory in Iraq and insecurity in America."
And even aside from the double standard, how important is civility? I'm all for good manners, but this isn't a dinner party. The opposing sides in America's national debate are far apart on fundamental issues, from fiscal and environmental policies to national security and civil liberties. It's the duty of pundits and politicians to make those differences clear, not to play them down for fear that someone will be offended.
E-mail: krugman@nytimes.com
Report this post as:

add your comments


Local News

Queremos justicia: Pueblo rechazó presencia del alguacil Arpaio en Condado de Orange N06 9:13AM

Sit-in at Chancellor Yang's office to protest closure of Ventura Campus N05 10:49AM

Settlement Puts an End to Controversial Elephant Hill Development in Los Angeles N05 7:33AM

BREAKING: Wednesday, Nov 4, 7:45pm - Hundreds Marching in Silverlake for right to marry N04 7:46PM

Calling Long Beach Area Anarchists! N04 7:54AM

JFAV ACTION WEEK, NOVEMBER 8-14, 2009 N02 3:47PM

Checkpoints this weeked: Retenes este fin de semana (30-31/oct) O29 9:51PM

Fred Phelps Brings Road Show of Hate to San Diego; 500 Protest Against Him O29 7:10PM

Pension fund probe into possible bribery of former LA deputy mayor O29 6:02PM

Dr. Helen Caldicott Speaks in San Diego O29 5:50PM

Queer Democrats Endorse Alvarez, Wayne for City Council O29 5:41PM

Béla Dornon: Queer Photographer Seeks to Document California’s Same-Sex Marriages O29 5:30PM

Physician and Six Activists Are Arrested At CIGNA's Glendale, CA Offices O28 8:08PM

Physician and Six Activists Are Arrested At CIGNA's Glendale, CA Offices/ Video O28 7:35PM

BREAKING: 1pm - 10/28/09 - Healthcare Activists Stage Sit-in at Cigna offices, 7 Arrested O28 12:55PM

First in state Holistic Mom’s Network chapter celebrates 5th birthday O27 11:02PM

More footage of the Anti-Nazi protest O27 1:46AM

Sit-in at CIGNA insurance, 10am Wednesday, 10/28 O26 7:36PM

International Day of Climate Action in Eagle Rock (part 1) O26 7:09PM

International Day of Climate Action in Eagle Rock part 2 O26 6:30PM

Inland Empire Against Racial Hate (1-13) O26 1:44PM

Video footage of the Anti-Nazi protest O26 11:28AM

Immigrants Are Welcome Here. Nazis Are Not. (Photo set 3) O26 10:47AM

Immigrants Are Welcome Here. Nazis Are Not. (Photo set 2) O26 10:22AM

Immigrants Are Welcome Here. Nazis Are Not. O26 10:06AM

Indymedia Los Angeles 10th Anniversary Event! O26 9:55AM

NAZIS GO HOME! Spit and Swastikas Clash in Riverside O26 8:40AM

Nazis in Riverside O25 7:46PM

More Local News...

Other/Breaking News

GLOBAL TURN AROUND! N07 2:27PM

JFAV/ FIL-AMS ALL SET FOR VETERANS DAY PROTEST MARCH ON NOVEMBER 11 IN LA N07 12:26PM

NDF -EV URGES PEOPLE TO ACT ON UTILITIES CRISIS N07 11:58AM

PHILIPPINES; A CAPITALIST CALAMITY N07 10:25AM

~ BIGDADDYJAZZANDMAYA.COM ~ THE ATTEMPT TO DESTROY ONE LOCAL POORER AMERICAN FAMILY~! N07 9:13AM

~ BIGDADDYJAZZANDMAYA.COM ~ THE ATTEMPT TO DESTROY ONE LOCAL POORER AMERICAN FAMILY~! N07 9:05AM

BTL:Former Religious Right Activist Warns Against Incitement to Violence N07 4:00AM

Nov. 20-22 Mass Mobilization to Close the SOA N06 1:59PM

Honduran Accord Solidifies Coup E'Etat Rule N06 1:15PM

Democraticamente. FERNANDO LUGO, CONTINUADA DESHONRA PARA LA INVESTIDURA PRESIDENCIAL N06 11:42AM

National Resistance Against the Coup d’Etat Announces Boycott of Elections N06 10:35AM

Don't go N06 8:59AM

BTL:Civil Disobedience Actions Launched to Stop Mountain Top Removal N06 5:29AM

Diario Siglo XXI. FERNANDO LUGO, CONTINUADA DESHONRA PARA LA INVESTIDURA PRESIDENCIAL N06 12:44AM

Rivers Casino Supervisor Physically Assaults Casino Security Officer during Union Campaign N05 9:05PM

Obama is Absolutely Right to Re-evaluate Afghanistan Strategy N05 6:49PM

The Shortwave Report 11/06 Listen Globally! N05 5:02PM

The latest trend in eco-tourism is completely out of this world ... and right around the c N05 2:18PM

Comments from an Inmate N05 11:56AM

The High Risk Business of Banks N05 5:40AM

BTL:Karzai Government Corruption Hobbles Obama Afghan War Strategy N05 5:11AM

War Criminals and their agent control 344 Members of Congress. N05 1:29AM

EEUU SOBORNA CON ARMAS A FERNANDO LUGO N05 12:45AM

Reject Corporate Option for Health Care N04 7:55PM

Blog en solidaridad con el SME. México N04 1:58PM

House Resolution Designates Venezuela a State Sponsor of Terrorism N04 1:08PM

Pirates attack ship in eastern mediterranean N04 7:23AM

Profits=Investments=Jobs? N04 5:49AM

More Breaking News...
© 2000-2003 Los Angeles Independent Media Center. Unless otherwise stated by the author, all content is free for non-commercial reuse, reprint, and rebroadcast, on the net and elsewhere. Opinions are those of the contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Los Angeles Independent Media Center. Running sf-active v0.9.4 Disclaimer | Privacy