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Dennis Miller on Israel
by B.A. •
Tuesday, Nov. 04, 2003 at 9:40 AM
For those who don't know, Dennis Miller is a comedian who has a show called Dennis Miller Live on HBO. He's about to begin hosting a talk show on MSNBC too. He recently went on a rant about the situation in Israel. Dennis has it right! - B.A.
"A brief overview of the situation is always valuable, so as a service to all Americans who still don't get it, I now offer you the story of the Middle East in just a few paragraphs, which is all you really need.
Don't thank me. I'm a giver. Here we go:
The Palestinians want their own country. There's just one thing about that: There are no Palestinians. It's a made up word. Israel was called Palestine for two thousand years. Like "Wiccan," "Palestinian" sounds ancient but is really a modern invention. Before the Israelis won the land in war, Gaza was owned by Egypt, and there were no "Palestinians" then, and the West Bank was owned by Jordan, and there were no "Palestinians" then. As soon as the Jews took over and started growing oranges as big as basketballs, w hat do you know, say hello to the Palestinians," weeping for their deep bond with their lost "land" and "nation."
So for the sake of honesty, let's not use the word "Palestinian" any more to describe these delightful folks, who dance for joy at our deaths until someone points out they're being taped. Instead, let's call them what they are: "Other Arabs Who Can't Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death."
I know that's a bit unwieldy to expect to see on CNN. How about this, then: Adjacent Jew-Haters." Okay, so the Adjacent Jew-Haters want their own country. Oops, just one more thing. No, they don't. They could've had their own country any time in the last thirty years, especially two years ago at Camp David. But if you have your own country, you have to have traffic lights and garbage trucks and Chambers of Commerce, and, worse, you actually have to figure out some way to make a living. That's no fun. No, they want what all the other Jew-Haters in the region want: Israel.
They also want a big pile of dead Jews, of course -- that's where the real fun is -- but mostly they want Israel. Why For one thing, trying to destroy Israel - or "The Zionist Entity" as their textbooks call it -- for the last fifty years has allowed the rulers of Arab countries to divert the attention of their own people away from the fact that they're the blue-ribbon most illiterate, poorest, and tribally backward on God's Earth, and if you've ever been around God's Earth, you know that's really saying something.
It makes me roll my eyes every time one of our pundits waxes poetic about the great history and culture of the Muslim Mideast. Unless I'm missing something, the Arabs haven't given anything to the world since Algebra, and, by the way, thanks a hell of a lot for that one.
Chew this around and spit it out: Five hundred million Arabs ; five million Jews.
Think of all the Arab countries as a football field, and Israel as a pack of matches sitting in the middle of it. And now these same folks swear that if Israel gives them half of that pack of matches, everyone will be pals.
Really Wow, what neat news. Hey, but what about the string of wars to obliterate the tiny country and the constant din of rabid blood oaths to drive every Jew into the sea. Oh, that We were just kidding.
My friend Kevin Rooney made a gorgeous point the other day: Just reverse the numbers. Imagine five hundred million Jews and five million Arabs. I was stunned at the simple brilliance of it. Can anyone picture the Jews strapping belts of razor blades and dynamite to themselves Of course not. Or marshaling every fiber and force at their disposal for generations to drive a tiny Arab State into the sea Nonsense. Or dancing for joy at the murder of innocents Impossible. Or spreading and b elieving horrible lies about the Arabs baking their bread with the blood of children Disgusting. No, as you know, left to themselves in a world of peace, the worst Jews would ever do to people is debate them to death.
Mr. Bush, God bless him, is walking a tightrope. I understand that with vital operations coming up against Iraq and others, it's in our interest, as Americans, to try to stabilize our Arab allies as much as possible, and, after all, that can't be much harder than stabilizing a roomful of supermodels who've just had their drugs taken away.
However, in any big-picture strategy, there's always a danger of losing moral weight.
We've already lost some. After September 11 our president told us and the world he was going to root out all terrorists and the countries that supported them. Beautiful. Then the Israelis, after months and months of having the equivalent of an Oklahoma City every week (and then every day) start to do th e same thing we did, and we tell them to show restraint.
If America were being attacked with an Oklahoma City every day, we would all very shortly be screaming for the administration to just be done with it and kill everything south of the Mediterranean and east of the Jordan. (Hey, wait a minute, that's actually not such a bad id . . . ooh, that is, what a horrible thought, yeah, horrible.)"
Miller the Bufoon
by Meyer London
Tuesday, Nov. 04, 2003 at 9:56 AM
Was that supposed to be one of his comedy routines? It wasn't very funny. Racist hatred never is; neither is lieing and defending colonialism. No wonder he got dropped from Monday Night Football; he probably tried to convince the viewers that the Cincinnati Bengals vs. the Houston Texans would be the game of the century. Or that drinking the right brand of beer woud guarantee them a date with an NFL cheerleader.
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Dennis Miller
by follows racist ideology
Tuesday, Nov. 04, 2003 at 10:29 AM
The racist hatred toward Arab people by mainstream corporate KKKlowns like Dennis Miller is at an all time high. Just in time for another US led bombing of Iraq so Dennis and his racist goons can drive around NYC in his shiny SUV burning Iraqi oil..
When Arab (Iraqi, Palestinian, etc..) children are killed by the US made weapons given to Israel, some people are forced to defend themselves against racist apartheid Israel..
The one sided view of Arab people as terrorists ignores the fact that Israel owns US MADE nuclear weapons. This is held against the Arab people, regardless of their population numbers..
United States and Israel are controlled by racist governments (Bush and Sharon) guilty of war crimes and genocide against the Arab people and many others (African, Native American)..
..maybe Dennis Miller has some more jokes to tell about Arab children having their limbs blown off by US MADE WEAPONS..
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it appears you are the bufoon
by mymicz
Tuesday, Nov. 04, 2003 at 10:53 AM
Dramatization and laughs aside, Houston's team is the Oilers, lieing is spelled lying, and this story has a good point. Phillistine, which is where the word Palestinian comes from, was once an insult. It stood for rude, brash, and barbaric. While Israel is no pussy cat by any means, this conflict is appallingly and obviously because Arabs do NOT want to live in Peace with Jews. They never have. Every other Arab country has slaughtered it's Jews by the hundreds of thousands. The numbers speak for themselves, they slaughter their own kind. Why would anyone want that for a neighbor? You mean to tell me, my name calling friend, that you think it's the right thing to be happy about 9/11 and dance in the streets. That you think bombing cafes is good for the Palestinian economy? Miller is so right to point out the difference between 5 million and five hundred million. The fact is, if you're on the side of human rights, the Arabs are continuously the worst violators of said rights and the Jews historically have fostered those rights both here in the U.S. and elsewhere. They deserve their tiny bit of land and the Phillistines deserve a swift reality check. They want Israeli jobs(never there before), Israeli money(also never there before), and dead Israeli's. And as for their benovolent brothers in other Arab states, they are running from them also, because the Saudi's really could give two shits about what happens to them. Each and every time an "Arab" country slaughters Phillistines or Shia or whatever their in the mood to hate, indemedia sits silent and on their side, but g-d forbid the Jews shoot in self defence, or the Jews accidentally kill a fraction of those Arabs kill, the racists find another reason to "hate Jews." War is ugly, and there is no reason for it, but you can never again tell me that the "poor Palestinians," are suffering because of mean nasty Zionists, it's just a lie to hide Arab shame at not loving their own brothers and being downright racist to boot. Now, of course, this is not exactly sweeping. But it does look the the elephant or Goliath of Islam is reeling from the bite of the mousy David that is Israel, and can't stand to have it's bravado bruised. Remember all to clearly that Hitler planned to use the Arabs for exactly this cause. Therfore, every Arab who plays into hating Israel is automatically just another friggin Nazi. If you support fascism, go right on. I don't think Bush is a solution or even a friend to Israel, in fact, I think he may be setting Israel up for a fall. Allowing all this attention to be focussed on Israel distracts from his problems as well. That's O.k., Jews are used to being scapegoats, and we always overcome, whether it's in writing the "I Have a Dream" speech or dying with civil rights activists on a tree, you cannot argue that we have not fought racism as a culture. The struggle of Israel is that the Jews are simply fighting to be a race that is safe in a land where they can defend their territory. The sad thing is what they have to do to do so, scrambling to find a grey area between the Jewish goal of human rights and healing and the post Holocaust vow to defend a people to the death. This is not about bad leaders, it is about good people with bad leaders, and bad people with worse ones.
Anthem, "it still hasn't past, our tikva, the hope, 2000 years old, to be a free nation, in our own land, the land of Zion, Jerusalem."
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Mymicz losing it
by Meyer London
Tuesday, Nov. 04, 2003 at 11:27 AM
Say, Mymicz, you didn't notice that I left out an f in buffoon. Haw haw. And the Oilers left Houston half a decade ago - they are now known as the Tennessee Titans. Your analysis of Palestine (like Miller's) is about as accurate as Gone With the Wind's depiction of the Civil War and Reconstruction. Both confuse the oppressors with the oppressed; both are racist garbage.
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left not good at choosing its friends
by Meyer London
Tuesday, Nov. 04, 2003 at 12:36 PM
We could have done worse. We could have chosen you and the other boys down at the gun club or the halfway house.
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missing the point
by not stupid
Tuesday, Nov. 04, 2003 at 3:16 PM
The people living in Palestine (aka "the Land of Israel") were Arabs who had been living in the Ottoman empire and had no need for a nationality. The British named the area, just like Iraq, giving the Arabs living there their own little nationality within Islam and Arab culture. And then a bunch of European Jews fled Europe with Christian Euro-American aid (aka guns, tanks, missiles) to steal (aka colonize) half the good land between Egypt and Iraq by pushing the former natives into refugee camps and to this day continueing to 'settle' more land that isn't theirs. What would you do? Give up your ancestral home with no reparations or admission of guilt? GET REAL.
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glad you pointed that out
by Meyer London
Tuesday, Nov. 04, 2003 at 4:35 PM
Glad you pointed out that it was ok to steal land from Arabs because Americans stole land from Mexicans and Indians. That's good enough for me. By the way, there was a good deal of very violent resistance from the Mexicans and, especially, from the Indians; they were described in the popular press at the time in terms similar to those used to describe Arab "terrorists" today. And even today there are very militant Chicano and American Indian movements in the southwestern US. If you think everyone gets along great you must be posting from Cape Cod or something.
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Social Darwinist dispenses advice
by Meyer London
Tuesday, Nov. 04, 2003 at 5:33 PM
Such as shut up. In other words, accept his 1890 view of things or keep your opinions to yourself. Of course, people acting on views like that brought on World War I. Then they brought on World War II. And the deaths of tens of millions. Wonder what he has in mind. People like him are a menace to the survival of the human race; the scary thing is that one of them is in the White House.
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ml
by heretostay
Tuesday, Nov. 04, 2003 at 5:41 PM
Grow up. Do it if you can. Right now you're not even close. Land is conquered again and again and again. Wars will be fought. Long after we're dead and gone, land will be conquered. Long after the USA is a chapter in a history book, there will still be another to take its place. This has been going on long before 1890. Crack a history book one day, try and learn something. Complaining about it won't do any good. It just makes you look petty and stupid. The sun comes, up the sun goes down. People have survived worse. They will again. It will continue as it always has. There is nothing new under the sun. Vanity of vanities, all is vanity.
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Blah,blah, yadda yadda
by Point
Saturday, Nov. 08, 2003 at 9:24 AM
As a stand-up comedian, he may have a career. . .Oh, wait! Sorry about that. . .But as a historian, he failed before he got one line out.
Point
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That's Larry Miller
by Anonymous
Thursday, Nov. 20, 2003 at 3:54 PM
That was written by Larry Miller. Not Dennis.
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Where is the moderate Pro-Palestinian?
by Personman
Tuesday, Dec. 02, 2003 at 9:13 PM
To whom it may concern,
Before arguing about the status of Israel, one must first determine the facts.
Fact: PLO was founded in 1964 Fact: Palestinian nationalism became a significant movement following the 1967 war. Fact: Palestinians have rejected Israel's right to exist in any form from the beginning of the movement to the early 1990s Fact: The Arabs turned down the 2 state solution (the solution most Palestinians and Jews support today) every time in the past while the Jews have (sometimes relucantly) accepted the 2 state solution everytime it has been proposed. The first Proposal was the Peel Commission plan in 1937, which split Israel and made Jerusalem neutral (the jewish land had 2 parts not connected while the Arabs had a full connected proposed country). The Jews reluctantly accepted it (as it would have saved over 1 million jews from the Holocaust) while the Arabs rejected it. They rejected the UN charter in 47 which proposed a 2 state solution. Arafat recently walked away from the table, over 97% of the west bank, all of Gaza, and the Arab quarter in Jerusalem and didn't propose a counter-proposal.
Do the Arabs want a state or do they want to destroy a state? Do they want peace or do they want to divest from Israel? These questions ARE mutually exclusive. Refusal to recognize Israel means one must refuse to recognize all nation states. Thus, after acceptance, where is the compromise?
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Dennis Miller - Rejectionist
by D.Cates
Tuesday, Dec. 16, 2003 at 8:50 PM
telcomintl@cox.net 602-751-9004
Dennis Miller is a complete bufoon. His rejectionist propaganda, and Arab bashing is shameful, & pathetic. Anyone supporting a world renowned war criminal like Ariel Sharon should be looked upon in shame. I used to find Dennis Miller funny until I was exposed to his racist filth. It is unfortunate in America that there is a host of Zionist organizations - The ADL, The AIPAC, ZOA, and a host of others that pollute, and distort the truth about the middle east in all forms of media. These organizations, and the likes of Dennis Miller are the "real" Anti-Semites. support Jews for Peace, not Zionists for Murder, and Illegal Occupation.
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response
by D.Cates
Tuesday, Dec. 16, 2003 at 9:09 PM
telcomintl@cox.net 602-751-9004
The so called "left wing loonies" support a justice and peace in the Mid East. unlike Zionist Neo Cons who support Targeted Murders and the Illegal Occupation, get real, your so-called zionist fascism is the problem in Israel, and is the "root" of any counter response by Palestinian militants. Why not get a gun and KILL everybody who disagree's with you.This is what Ariel Sharon has been doing for years on a mass scale.Your so-called Third Reich IDF kills innocent people at random, and seem to enjoy it. WAKE UP!!!!
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response
by D.Cates
Tuesday, Dec. 16, 2003 at 9:19 PM
telcomintl@cox.net 602-751-9004
The so called "left wing loonies" support a justice and peace in the Mid East. unlike Zionist Neo Cons who support Targeted Murders and the Illegal Occupation, get real, your so-called zionist fascism is the problem in Israel, and is the "root" of any counter response by Palestinian militants. Why not get a gun and KILL everybody who disagree's with you.This is what Ariel Sharon has been doing for years on a mass scale.Your so-called Third Reich IDF kills innocent people at random, and seem to enjoy it. WAKE UP!!!!
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HEY JACKASSES
by fresca4543
Tuesday, Dec. 16, 2003 at 10:13 PM
"That was written by Larry Miller. Not Dennis. "
As has already been pointed out, that absolutely fine piece of writing was done by LARRY MILLER, most recently seen in "A Mighty Wind". Not Dennis Miller.
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revisionist history again
by getoveryourself
Tuesday, Dec. 23, 2003 at 10:59 AM
While Arabs lived in the Land of Israel for the past 2000 years, so did Jews. Somehow if a Jew also lived in the Land of Israel before 1948 he or she is not permited the same right to live in that land as a muslim or christian arab. Whoever you are, you will always find fault with Israel and the Jews who support Israel. The only solution for people like you is the destruction of Israel. Israel and Jews who support Israel will always be wrong in your eyes. You will always support anyone who will try to subjugate the Jews. That's your real fear, Jews with power and might who aren't afraid to rise up against millenia of oppression. The european middle ages are over get used to it.
p.s. It is not colonialism when you are reclaiming your own land. The Jews' reclamation of the Land of Israel is therefore not colonialism.
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Way to be unbiased
by Jw
Tuesday, Jan. 06, 2004 at 7:17 AM
I never hear any pro-Arab argue about anything except how the poor Palestinians were driven out of their land. I've never heard them condemn suicide tactics (or even address them). THAT isn't in discussion here, forget the past. Israel is Israel...that won't change. What are the Palestinians (who by the way also live in many other ARAB countries and are persecuted, starved, not allowed citizenship, but since they aren't Jewish states nobody talks about it) going to do about it?
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Tell me why...
by Bill Farris
Monday, Mar. 29, 2004 at 9:50 PM
Tell me why it is racist to want to stop terrorists from blowing up women and children (not to mention the bombers themselves, often teenagers,) but it's NOT racist to advocate blowing a certain group of people up? Really. Tell me. Don't just call me names, or tell me I'm stupid. TELL ME!
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Larry Miller is GREAT
by Dondan
Saturday, Apr. 03, 2004 at 2:29 PM
Larry Miller is GREAT and RIGHT!!!!!!!
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Some facts
by get a life
Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 2:22 PM
actually this is a load of pish
for starter neither egypt or jordan ever owned the west bank or gaza
they occupied it
and by the way it was the palestinian arabs who developed the famous jaffa orange
In 1886, the American consul in Jerusalem, Henry Gillman, called attention to the excellent quality and superior grafting techniques of Palestinian citrus farmers. "I am particular in giving the details of this simple method of propagating this valuable fruit [the Jaffa orange] as I believe it might be adopted with advantage in Florida" (US Government, Documents of the Jerusalem Consulate (Gillman to Porter), 16 December 1886
i believe the guy is supposed to be a comedian - well this article sure is a joke
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Fuck right wing buffoon Dennis Miller
by Oz
Sunday, Jul. 23, 2006 at 3:22 PM
He is just another Pus Limbaugh-esque blowhard.
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FACTS ABOUT ISRAEL
by Becky Johnson
Monday, Jul. 24, 2006 at 9:33 AM
Santa Cruz, CA.
FACTS ABOUT ISRAEL:
8.4 million population (5 million Jews)
Arab population in Israel in 1949: 160,000 Arab population in Israel in 2000: 1,215,000
Official languages: Hebrew and Arabic number of recognized (and protected) religions: 15
ratio of Arabs:Israelis 50:1 ration of Arab land to Israeli land: 800:1 % of land in Mideast: 0.1%
%of land used for Jewish "settlers" in West Bank: 1.7%
highest % of college graduates relative to population in the world
highest % of Nobel Prize winners in the world 2nd highest number of Nobel prizes total (2nd only to the USA with a population of 300 million).
Israel is the ONLY country in the world to have more trees in 2000 than the area had in 1900
Israel has more engineers than any other country in the world
Israel humanitarian organizations are consistantly the first to arrive at any human disaster worldwide--for earthquakes, fires, tsunamis, floods, and terrorist attacks such as Kenya and Madrid
20% of Israel's population is Arab/Muslim with FULL citizen rights
Israel is not a colony of any foreign country--it was set up by a UN GA Assembly resolution 181 in 1947
Jerusalem is mentioned 700 times in the Torah and NOT ONCE in the Koran
The majority of Palestinians on the West Bank still hold Jordanian passports.
Until the Oslo Accords, Israel paid for universal health insurance for all Palestinians from 1967 to 1994
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Bigger than a matchbook
by Susan Baruch
Tuesday, Aug. 01, 2006 at 9:09 AM
sbaruch@hotmail.com 21 Gladbrook, Pittsford, NY
If, as Dennis Miller says, there are 500 million Arabs in the Middle East and 5 million Jews, then the ratio is 100:1. This means that if the Arabs were represented by a football field (100 yards long), then the Jews would be represented by one yard of that field, across its entire width. That is considerably larger than the area of a pack of matches.
I am Jewish and appreciate his sentiment. But I am also not a math idiot. I hope I am not alone in this.
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Wow, I see why people war
by concerned about future
Wednesday, Aug. 02, 2006 at 11:09 AM
I see the jew haters are out in full force, such anger when they are exposed.
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you are an idiot
by wtvr
Sunday, Aug. 27, 2006 at 10:59 AM
you may not be a math idiot but you must be a regular idiot because obviously miller was reffering to land and not people. its the land that the "palestinians" want, not the people (they just want the people dead) but since the land ratio is 800:1 which in relation to a football field is about 4.5 inches (approximately the size of a matchbox) miller's statement was pretty accurate
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