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The Angry Mind of a Counter-Demonstrator

by Jon Alvarez Thursday, Oct. 30, 2003 at 3:06 PM
jonalvy44@hotmail.com

No bias in the media? The D.C. Chapter of Free Republic notified C-Span of the day's events well in advance, yet were told that coverage would be limited to the anti-American, communist-backed group A.N.S.W.E.R. I guess several hundred Americans rallying for their country were not deemed "newsworthy."

My Trip To D.C. To Counter The Communists
Jon Alvarez, IntellectualConservative.com, October 27, 2003

On Saturday I joined other patriots in our nation's capitol as it came under renewed assault from the anti-American, communist-backed group known as A.N.S.W.E.R.

I returned from Washington, D.C. late Saturday night after a whirlwind trip in which I drove 800 miles within a twenty-four hour period. I joined other patriots in our nation's capitol as it came under renewed assault from the anti-American, communist-backed group known as A.N.S.W.E.R. Now why on earth would I drive so far, leaving the comforts of my home, simply to be verbally assaulted by a group of left-wing wackos? The answer is simple; I made this trip to show my support for our President, our troops, and our country.

I also made this trip to show the nation and the world that these leftist protesters do not speak for me. I could not in good conscience sit by and allow them to march unopposed, spewing their venomous hatred not only for President Bush, but also for our country. They do not represent mainstream America, despite the attempts of the mainstream media to convince us otherwise. What the media fails to report is that the primary backer of the anti-war rallies has been the group A.N.S.W.E.R., a conglomerate of communist organizations. I was saddened to see some young children and teens marching with these people, unaware of what they stand for. The majority of the professionally made signs held by the anti-war protesters were stamped "International Socialist Organization." Enough said.

What else did the media fail to report? They did not report that this anti-war protest was deemed a huge failure. A.N.S.W.E.R. had estimated their numbers to be approximately 100,000, yet I can attest that they had no more than 10,000 people in attendance. Furthermore, I have heard reports that their event in San Francisco attracted only several hundred supporters. This is very good news because it shows their movement is losing supporters as their anti-American agenda becomes more visible.

The media's cameras also failed to capture the message of hatred for all things American. U.S. flags were desecrated with swastikas while our flags received the one-finger salute. Displays of anti-capitalism, sexism, racism, and anti-semitism were not reported. Eggs were thrown at police officers. Now why on earth would "peace" protesters be carrying eggs? The terrorists of the world were watching these protests, taking great joy in the support they received from their new allies on the left. The actions of these people could have a negative impact on the morale of our soldiers as well. That's why it's imperative that the media report on the patriotic presence as well.

It was at our second rallying point, along the parade route of A.N.S.W.E.R., that we came face to face with these people. Despite the eggs, despite the horrible signs painting our President as everything from a new Adolf Hitler to an evil capitalist criminal, I couldn't help but feel sorry for some of the participants. They fail to realize they are on the wrong side of history. Surely they were unaware that they were marching with a vile, anti-American communist group? We, too, want the troops to come home. We don't want war, but we cannot allow terrorism to survive. To show weakness, to pull our troops from Iraq at this time, would only spell disaster for America.

I think several of these people were uncomfortable with the viciousness of the protesters as they came around the corner and saw our patriotic signs and show of support for our country. Like rabid dogs, they screamed, spit, ranted, and raved. They are the ones driven by anger and hatred. They are the same people that spit on our returning soldiers from Vietnam and called them "baby killers." They are the social misfits, the dirty and the disheveled, that relish social upheaval. They are the strong supporters of groups like A.N.S.W.E.R. and it was good that we exposed them for what they represent. They didn't disappear after the anti-war protests of the past spring, only to reappear now. No, they had merely channeled their energy into working for the Howard Dean campaign.

No bias in the media? The D.C. Chapter of Free Republic, the organizers of the event, notified C-Span well in advance of the day's events, only to be told that C-Span would only cover the A.N.S.W.E.R. rally. C-Span must have determined that several hundred Americans, proclaiming support for their country, were not newsworthy. Furthermore, despite the abundance of reporters and camera crews that interviewed us during and after our engagement with A.N.S.W.E.R. along their march route, there was little if any reporting of our presence and viewpoint. Even my local news outlets, notified of my intentions weeks ago, seemed to have no interest, yet carried the network headlines about "huge anti-war protests." So much for presenting both sides of the issue.

Hats off to the D.C. Police Department for handling this event in a most professional manner. There was zero police presence at our initial rally point as there was no need for one. We did have to flag down an officer to remove one "peace" protester who tried to disrupt our singing of "God Bless America" as we concluded our rally. Several others stopped by early on and vandalized the porta-potties we had rented for our event. It was quite a contrast to the police presence necessary along the route of the anti-war protesters -- there was a large police presence in combat gear. As we proceeded up Pennsylvania Avenue to our second rally point, we received numerous thumbs up displays from these blue knights in body armor. It was nice to see they appreciated our presence on the field of battle that day.

Finally, it was a glorious day to be in Washington, D.C., the capitol of the greatest country in the world. It was wonderful to be involved with such an event, to be up at the crack of dawn and to see the sun rise behind the Capitol Building. My chest swelled with pride as I met others who feel as I do, people from all walks of life, patriots showing their support for their country. We heard from a great panel of speakers, from former Congressman Bob Dornan to a gentleman from Iraq. All shared the same message; we live in the greatest country in the world, we cannot compromise with evil, and we cannot allow groups like A.N.S.W.E.R. to portray themselves as a group that represents America. It's too bad the liberal media failed to report on both sides of the issue, particularly the American side.

Jon Alvarez is a free-lance writer and the founder of PABAAH (http://www.pabaah.com/), Patriotic Americans Boycotting Anti-American Hollywood.
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You're a wingnut

by 000 Thursday, Oct. 30, 2003 at 3:44 PM

1. the media isn't liberal, it's corporate. it is in business to profit. period.

2. PABAAH, what a joke. (reagan, heston, swarzenegger, etc).

3. ANSWER...yes, you're right, they are scumbags. I can't argue that one. But that doesn't mean we don't protest BUSH and his illegal war.

4. You are lying and distorting the facts. But that is standard operating procedure for right wingers.

000
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000

by nonanarchist Thursday, Oct. 30, 2003 at 4:05 PM

"1. the media isn't liberal, it's corporate. it is in business to profit. period."

Sure...that's why it consistently paints a bleak picture of Iraq...that's so helpful to the quarterly profits.

"2. PABAAH, what a joke. (reagan, heston, swarzenegger, etc)."

No, more like "against Streisand, Penn, Garafalo, Baldwin, and other notable America-haters".

"3. ANSWER...yes, you're right, they are scumbags. I can't argue that one. But that doesn't mean we don't protest BUSH and his illegal war."

Nobady said it doesn't. But are you sure you want to ally yourseves with a group who, if they got their way, would shoot dissidents? Wouldn't be no Constitution looking after you if they had their druthers.

"4. You are lying and distorting the facts. But that is standard operating procedure for right wingers."

And you're making claims with nothing to back them up. SOP for lefties. If he's lying, please post contradictory evidence...or shut up. We're not just going to take your word for it, Skippy.
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ROFL!

by Ralph Thursday, Oct. 30, 2003 at 6:57 PM

Please visit the websites mentioned by the "patriot" Alvarez. A textbook example of right-wing propaganda, jingoism, distortion, self-appropriation of patriotism.

Entertain-O-Meter: OFF-SCALE !!!

(Don't break your ribs laughing while surfing on that sewer)

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Honesty

by Jon Alvarez Thursday, Oct. 30, 2003 at 11:42 PM

I am really a cockroach. I live under your refrigerator.
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Ralpn and Jon (imp)

by (A) Friday, Oct. 31, 2003 at 5:19 AM

Your hatred and mean-spiritedness is an embarrassment to those of us active in the struggle. It is because of people like you that our movement has not advanced any further than it has. You and your attitudes are an embarrassment to all we stand for. Do us all a favor and die before you do any for damage to the cuase.
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I'd just like to know...

by Max Friday, Oct. 31, 2003 at 6:05 AM

How can you leftist traitors feel so comfortable in calling yourselves "peace protestors"?

I watched these people on C-SPAN, with their faces all wrenched and twisted as they shouted their vulgar and hateful invectives in the most disturbing manner. I just can't understand how such hateful people could claim to want peace! Spitting and giving the finger to anyone that disagrees with them, throwing eggs and defacing the American flag...these people are simply...evil.

If you had a spoiled child, that stood in your face and screamed and yelled at you, pouted and writhed his face into a knot while telling you off, egged your car and called you a fascist nazi...all because you loved that child and wanted it to have a good life...what would your response be?
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this is right wing propaganda

by more rational Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 1:02 AM

The image of the angry, violent, leftist protester is popular in the media, but it's less than 1/1000th of the people at the demo. Most of them are upset, but, don't get violent.

Any crowd is going to have it's violent people, especially in America, where we get mad over the most insignificant things. You'll see the angriest mobs at crowded restaurants where alcohol is served, and at some sales at Christmastime. You'll see them at college and high school football games. You'll see them at rock concerts, especially metal shows, which tend to attract the most extremely conservative, nationalistic people around.

These crowds outdo a public protest many times over. The only really aggressive protest in LA is the Oct. 22 march against police brutality, and even that is nothing compared to the chaos of a true riot or an English soccer hooligan riot. The other demos, especially ANSWERs, are pretty mellow and uneventful, unless you are actually into marching. Typically, the organizers (yes, the commies) are ordering the marchers to stand behind yellow tape. That's what the police want. So the organizers go along with it and herd people around, almost like the cops.

I've always dreamed that there'd be something exciting happening at these events, like the mob breaking ranks and taking over a shopping mall. It never happens, though. Usually, a lone person makes some error in judgement, and a gang of police will swarm on him and arrest him. That's all, and the guy sometimes gets screwed by the police, unfairly.

It's ironic, isn't it?
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Maxie

by sigmond froid (really more rational) Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 1:09 AM

Do you have some issue with your kids?

Sometimes, I wonder if some of the anti-protest, anti-peace, anti-whatever-the-kids-are-doing adults aren't just frustrated parents, or wannabe parents, or failed adults. Stop raining on the parade already.

If we can pull some pop-psychology out of the hat about "angry kids protesting because they hate their parents," isn't it just as valid to look at the real motivation for this adult anger?

Consider the infamous Rush Limbaugh. That guy was a condescending blowhard, but behind the pompous, deceptive mask, was a drug and food addicted sad sack with low self esteem.

You gotta wonder sometimes, about these angry people who keep coming back to IMC to trash the newswire.
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actors and politics

by more rational Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 1:19 AM

Let's analyze this a little... on the right...

Arnold Schwartzenegger
Ronald Reagan
Sonny Bono
Fred Grandy (Gopher from the Love Boat)
Jesse Ventura

and who was listed on the left? here...
Streisand
Penn
Garafalo
Baldwin

Conclusions

Republican and conservative Hollywood stars run for office, and are generally untalented hacks who get into show biz for the same reason they get into politics: megalomania. Once in office, they function best as puppets.

Democrat Hollywood stars are good actors.

Ed Begley, who does some "political" stuff, is a notable exception, and not a great actor either. Then again, he might actually be a pretty good politician.
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warning - ADL suggested propaganda tools in use !

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 1:35 AM

> hateful people

an emotion - BUZZZZ

you lost




>If you had a spoiled child


rhetorical question, all nicely framed I might add..


I guess it's time to post the personal info I found on you scott - no ?

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ahah

by Scottie Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 2:50 AM

hmm hexy you mean another scott or me? If you mean me I'd appreciate it if you made threats in threads that I actually read or post in. Otherwise I appologise for getting between you and max who according to you isn't max.

whoever it is I wouldn't bother. besides if its me.. my basement wont be nearly as good a hiding place if you tell everyone where it is.
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ok

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 3:13 AM

I'll keep my mouth shut then

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Hit a nerve I see...

by Max Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 5:30 AM

“The image of the angry, violent, leftist protester is popular in the media, but it's less than 1/1000th of the people at the demo. Most of them are upset, but, don't get violent.”

While it may be true that most didn’t get “violent”, the so called “peace protestors” that I typically see are loud, angry, and present their messages in a hateful tone. You say they are not “violent”, but you say they ARE “upset”. I say they are bitter, angry, and hateful.

Sort of ironic that so called “peace protestors” are dominated by such an image of hate, isn’t it?

“Do you have some issue with your kids?”

No. My kids are quite responsible, happy, and well-adjusted. I’ve raised them with firm discipline and love. And they’re turning out quite well, thanks.

But I did grow up with a problemed-sibling. My sister was a terror and there was nothing my parents could do to change it. She was incorrigible, much like many of the hateful people I saw at that DC protest on C-SPAN. Today, she is in jail for distributing ecstasy. And I predicted as much, even when I was only twelve, that she’d end up in jail.

And I basically saw two types of people attending that protest I saw on C-SPAN: angry, hateful, recalcitrant youths, and washed up, outdated, aging hippy types.
I’m a pretty good judge of character, and I think I’m right on. I’ve got you “peace protestors” pegged. If you’re not hateful, angry people then you really should disassociate yourselves from your leaders, because they are making you look very, very bad.

“I guess it's time to post the personal info I found on you scott - no ?”

Hex anon, you are a sicko. Get some help quickly. It’s disturbing how you posted that sick, sick photo of the bloody body in that bathtub, simply to keep people from reading what I posted.

I must have hit a nerve.

Are “peace protestors” really and truly the angry, hateful people they make themselves out to be?
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the "sick, sick" photo is the direct result of policies you support

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 5:45 AM

Sharon was responsible for this max, and YOU support him

> Hex anon, you are a sicko. Get some help quickly.

people who call for these things to happen are the sickos and that's exactly what these pictures bring to light

your handywork

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"Sharon was responsible for this max, and YOU support him"

by Max Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 5:55 AM

You are a disturbed individual, hex anon. All I can do for you is pray that you get some help.

For the record, I do not support Sharon. I do not support Arafat. The Israeli problem is just that, the Israeli problem.

I could spend my time posting disturbing, violent pictures of death and destruction of the Palestinian homocide bombers, but I choose not to waste my time engaging in such a nonsensical debate.

If you want this thread, you can have it. I am done here. You don't want to address my questions then fine. I'm not going to debate Zionism with you.

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ISRAEL does this - I don't

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 6:08 AM

it's weird the truth of what israel is doing becomes sick when exposed to the light of day..

too bad sharon and the soldiers (well 560 of them do now - have refused to do this) can't stop butchering people *so that these pictures are possible* - I don't pull these images out of my ass - sharon provides them.

if you've got some concern about something being sick I suggest you go to him about it since he is the source of the problem

you desperately want to hide israel's crimes I see



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Okay Hex, you win. Have it your way.

by Max Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 6:48 AM

Israel is Israel. That's the name of the country. It's not called Palestine, for a very good reason. The Jews have been there now for some 60+ years and they're not going anywhere. It's the only (tiny) nation that is even close to a Democracy in that cesspool known as the Middle East, and for that fact alone, YES... I do support Israel.

They're battle is much the same as the one we have here in the USA, against fifth columnists and subversives, and I hope they extinguish their enemies.

So post all the pictures you like, doesn't bother me a bit. War is a bitch, and like a true warrior, I say kill them all and let Allah sort them out.

Get your ass over in the trenches in Israel if you give such a good God-damn about the Israel-Palestine problem. Get over there and fight for what you believe, you pussy.

You'd probably just end up another sniveling, angry, spitting, frothing, writhing bulldozer pancake.

Good riddance to bad rubbish, that's what I say.
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and the troll popped, releasing his hate like tear gas

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 7:03 AM

so "max's" hate boils on up to the surface, where he reveals he wants to kill all the people I've posted and me - wants me to fight his genoside for him while he sits on his fat hating ass here and profits off it

right out of the LGF blogs...


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how many proxies you got left ned ? hahahahhahah

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 7:11 AM

a dead terrorist is no danger ? she looks really dangerous to me !



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Then she should be dead

by Arafish Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 7:13 AM

I notice you never show any pics of grieving Israelis after a bus gets blown up. Just curious.
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the spin cycle back to the palestinian tanks and israeli children

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 7:27 AM

Palestinians aren't systematicly using tanks, bulldozers, machine guns on even israeli children, and we can flip on the TV or rent a movie anytime to see the israeli's suffering *as the result of their own genocidal war crimes* which we don't see on TV



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Yes hex, I hate you.

by Max Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 7:40 AM

I hate all fifth columnists, subversives, and treacherous terrorists, as well as their enablers and sympathisers.

I feel pretty confident that you fall into this category, somewhere.

That means I probably have hate in my heart for you.

But I live by the American credo, which has always been tolerance.

I'll engage you in dialogue, but that's as far as I'll go.

I'll tolerate your right to believe your misguided, hateful ideologies ... even as much as I'd prefer to put you and your ilk down by force ... all in the name of civility and freedom.

As much as it sickens me to do so, I'll live with the cancerous cyst that plagues America, namely leftism, at least as long as I believe it won't be calamitous to do so.

Americans will live with the cancer only as long as the prognosis continues to be good.

When that ceases to be the case, and the prognosis turns ugly, you can expect that you and your ilk will be expunged, much like a cancerous tumor might be.
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max has a vision

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 7:54 AM

> you and your ilk will be expunged

he wants to expunge me

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Yes, hex. I think that's intuitively clear.

by Max Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 8:02 AM

"I hate all fifth columnists, subversives, and treacherous terrorists, as well as their enablers and sympathisers."

"he wants to expunge me"


There you have it folks. An obvious admission of guilt. Hex is a traitor and openly admits it.

Hex anon, I'm not the only one who wants to expunge you. I imagine if you walked out in the street right now and boisterously proclaimed your hatred of America, you'd find out there are many, many more that want to expunge you, just like me.

Go ahead. Try it!





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max loves expunging people

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 8:57 AM

here's an expunged face like max says he wants to do to us at IMC and all Muslims

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You're disturbed, hex.

by Max Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 9:43 AM

You sicken me to the utmost.

"here's an expunged face like max says he wants to do to us at IMC and all Muslims"

For the record, you lying, slandering, piece of feces, I have NEVER claimed to want to expunge muslims. You lie.

You lie and you sicken me.

And you marginalize yourself in the process. That's the only good that comes from your twisted visage. That's exactly why Americans collectively do NOT take you worthless fifth column anarchists seriously, now will they ever.

And as far as my desire to expunge those at IMC, that can only be deemed partly true.

More than half of the regulars that post here are conservative thinking Americans just like me. In fact, I can name far more of them and I can name of the ones l'd like expunged.

So, like I clearly stated, I only want to expunge the terrorists and the traitors. Especially the self-admitted ones.

Now run along, pissboy. I'm done with you for today.
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OneEyedMan

by KPC Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 9:59 AM

Min: "You lie and you sicken me. "

Is this meant for Hex or your beloved pResident and his minions?
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"For the record, you lying, slandering, piece of feces"

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 10:13 AM

speak for yourself, "expunger"


i do want to expunge

i don't want to expunge

she loves me

she loves me not

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Good job, pissboy.

by Max Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 10:21 AM

Waiting for the shake.

You're tip's in the pissbucket.
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max is a masochist

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 10:39 AM

well I've got many nice pictures I know you're gonna love

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Okay.

by Max Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 10:54 AM

Thank you sir, may I have another?
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no - because you want to tear my face off

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 11:12 AM

a hater must be re-educated by re-humaniztion

the erotic pictures open certain neuron receptors in your brain

then the violence pictures implant a connection between sex & death

if you only look at the series as I present them, they covertly "reprogram" your mind - do a psychoanalysis on them and see what I mean...

that's why you see a mixed bag of sex & violence, it's supposed to be both at the same time as a motion picture, so the next best thing is to alternate between them as stills

certain keywords I include, trigger various subconcious pathways

everything is intentional and has a purpose




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Psyops Anon w/ encryption

by Max Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 11:24 AM

I get it. This is supposed to be like one of those Rorschach Inkblot Tests, right? I'm just supposed to say the first thing that pops into my mind, right?

Okay, okay, okay...

That one reminds me of a warm summer day at the beach.

Next...
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OneEyedMan

by KPC Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 11:28 AM

Min: "If you want this thread, you can have it. I am done here."

Posted yesterday...yet....it still posts.

Which make Min a LIAR....but it is Republican, proof enough right there!
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no max - it's the videodrome effect

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 11:36 AM

max has a blockage that keeps him disconnected and hostile towards a group of people he's singled out to expunge.
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LGF supports the soldiers who did this

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 11:41 AM

max wants to expunge this man and us
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LGF in bed with the JDL a terrorist group

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 11:45 AM

since max expunges, the only romance he can find is rather - dead
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I've found tons of dirt on the ADL too

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 11:48 AM

max's expunging causes all kinds of deaths but that doesn't matter to him
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the FBI list of JDL terrorist crimes is HUGE !

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 11:58 AM

max supports LGF > JDL witch kills elderly people like this

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that one looks like...

by Max Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 12:50 PM

a meadow of daisies blowing in the cool spring breeze.

a small town carnival, with a ferris wheel, a tilt-o-whirl and bumper cars.

a small cattle ranch in a tiny Texas town, with horses and steer freely wandering the open plains...

How'm I doing so far?
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OneEyedMan

by KPC Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 1:10 PM

Min, weren't you...um....LEAVING?
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Hex, is there any point...

by nonanarchist Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 1:14 PM

...to your Parade O' Death?

Other than the obvious one -- Palestinians violate the sanctity of their dead in order to score politcal points?

Oh, by the way...the title of this thread is "The Angry Mind of a Counter-Demonstrator"...

In other words, way to hijack a thread!

But you have a LOT of practice doing that, don't you, Hexie boy?

Hey, just for laughs...what's my IP, you stinking, perf-board-making, self-important, obsessed-with-photos-of-dead-people, pompous, arrogant, and just plain stupid commie wanna-be?

Oh, forget it. You won't answer, you coward.
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A little handy work

by fresca Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 1:20 PM

From Hex and Adrian's heroes.

You know those "poor palestinian" souls who want peace so much.

As long as it includes a million dead Jews.

Right guys?
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Who rattled your cage, Colonel Sanders?

by Max Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 1:21 PM

I never said I was leaving. I simply said that if Dunce Anon w/ Encapsulation wanted this thread, I'd give it to him. Basically, what that meant was that since he'd rather spam about the evils of Zionism in lieu of sticking to the topic of this thread, which really is supposed to be about the mean-spirited and extreme hatefulness of you so called "peace protestors", I just thought I'd humor him. I'm flexible, you see. I can chat with you about whatever floats your boat. So tell me, KFC, what's on your (narrow, channelized, tunnel vision) mind today (as if I don't already know)? Let me guess (chortle)...you want to discuss (take cheap political shots at) the Bush administration. Sounds good to me (yawn)! I'm game (tic-tac-toe)!! Please go right ahead (and bore me) with you unsurpassed (snicker) wit and astounding (HAR!) inellectual opinions (idiot).

I'm all ears (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........)!
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More peaceful "peace" protestors

by nonanarchist Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 1:35 PM

http://www.johnnypnews.com/DCProtestclash.htm

Members of the counter-protest group began saying that a woman 5-months pregnant with the counter-protesters was injured in the scuffle. Her husband, David Fields, has made the following statement:

"My wife (who is 5 months pregnant) and I joined about 50 other Protest Warriors on Saturday in D.C. to infiltrate the anti-war rally sponsored by A.N.S.W.E.R., and they were apparently expecting us. As soon as we began making our way into the crowd, we had one person after another attempting to block our progress, telling us that we weren't allowed to be there, and within minutes, several rally "marshals" in yellow vests began trying to rope us off into a little "pen." We continuously asked them why they weren't being tolerant of our free speech rights, but the best responses they could come up with was a "f--- you!" We attempted to engage them in a healthy debate, but they wouldn't have any of it, and it wasn't long before they began trying to shove many of us out of the rally by force. I expected some resistance, and so I remained calm and just stood my ground, not wanting the face-off to escalate into anything violent. But when a couple of the "marshals" began shoving my pregnant wife around, I came VERY close to physically attacking them in her defense. But I settled for stepping in front of them and letting them know, in no uncertain terms, that she is pregnant, and if they didn't stop man-handling her, I would defend her with extreme force. In response to that, they would step back (but only for a minute or two), and say that in order for her not to be physically assaulted, I would have to get her out of there. This scene was repeated several times, and each time the same people became a little more rough with my wife, who, to her credit, didn't back down from their assault and stood her ground, questioning their purported "tolerance" and "peacefulness" with every one of their shoves.

Eventually, one of the "marshals," who my wife believes was under the influence of drugs, physically charged into me and attempted to rip up the two-sided sign I was carrying. After tearing down one side of my sign, this "peace-lover" returned and practically climbed on top of me to rip off the other side. My only resistance to his physical attacks was to point out his infringement of my free-speech rights, and to try to shield my sign from his prying fingers. Unfortunately, he succeeded in destroying my property, with the aid of several other "marshals," some of whom were still trying to rope us off. Even some of the anti-war rally attenders tried to intervene, telling the "marshals" that we were allowed to be there, and that they shouldn't try to silence us or make us leave."

****

Yeah...real interested in peace, aren't they?

Hey, Hex...now try to hide this post with more goodies from your "mangled human beings" collection that you've so lovingly culled from the net!
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OneEyedMan

by KPC Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 1:38 PM

Min: "I'm all ears"

That was a typo....it was supposed to read "I'm all arse"
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Hee hee hee.

by Max Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 1:46 PM

"That was a typo....it was supposed to read "I'm all arse"

So funny I forgot to laugh.

Did you make that up on your own, or did you have some help from your mommy?

I guess you leave me no choice but to go for the "I know you are, but what am I?" response.
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OneEyedMan

by KPC Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 3:59 PM

Not funny?!?!?!?! Shit! We were all rollin' on the floor over here!

Face it, you are Republican and everybody knows that Republican has no sense of humor...

.....fuckin' ARSEhole....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Walking Dead

by oct 31st Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 5:02 PM

Great pics! Boy, these people go all out on Halloween.
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" Shit! We were all rollin' on the floor over here!"

by nonanarchist Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 5:06 PM

THAT'S what you think is funny?

Ass jokes?

Dude...you're not in junior high anymore.

Act like it.
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stinking chortling asses

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 5:56 PM

> you stinking

I think you stink, I bet you do



> spam about the evils of Zionism

how could that be spam (on here not LGF)



> the topic of this thread / the mean-spirited and extreme hatefulness of you / I just thought I'd humor him


how sweet - the LGF trolls are trying to dictate to IMC patrons what our own topics are in troll-baiting threads



> So funny I forgot to chortle

you'll rue the day when you stop chortling



> Great pics! Boy, these people go all out on Halloween.

well you've got the right spirit at least !


Everyday is halloween in israel - and you know what that means !
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Hey, Hex...

by nonanarchist Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 6:30 PM

I went throughtthe LGF archives. Did a search on "hex anon", I think it was.

No, you've never posted on LGF (at least, you haven't under th Hex handle), but i did fid a thread where you were being ridiculed by a couple guys. They linked to a thread on IMC where they humiliated you. Man, they treated you bad. And deservedly so, I might add.

So I can understand your bitterness, Hex.

Well, no I can't. I've never been humiliated on the internet.

Unlike you!
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max's bitter bile rumour mongering exposed

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 7:11 PM

RE: I never posted at LGF

> your bitter

BUZZZZZ - emotion and illogical

why would I be bitter if I didn't even know about any LGF trolls on LGF talking behind my back (I don't read there to find dirt on me, I spend all my time there finding dirt on YOU)

but that's an emotion as well - trying to stamp out hate through education does not an emotion make


> they humiliated you. Man, they treated you bad

yes, we read all about it in the URL you provided so we can see, and no quotes or pastes either. hmmmmm

nice proof you have there - just thought you'd slip one in under the door did you ?

that would be something to see though - paste away !



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For example

by Scottie Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 7:36 PM

This could be your mom and dad hex.. Do you want to save them?
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Sorry, Hex:

by nonanarchist Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 7:40 PM

I'd assumed you read it.

As I said, it would explain your irrational hatred of LGF.

Here you go:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=7384#c0048
#48
m0rtaar 7/8/2003 02:20PM PST


#46, Frank IMC

If anyone cares, I've just completely blown apart some guy named Hex anon with his goofy conspiracy theory about the WTC attack and subsequent disaster. Yep, I'm the 'Listen and not "Hear" ' fellow [I don't want my 'm0rtaar' handle associated over there].

I decided to use cold hard facts to blow him away. Have a read and you'll sit back and enjoy how Hex's theories can't even stand up to cold analysis.

#49
Frank IMC 7/8/2003 03:10PM PST


m0rtaar -

Strong work! BTW, yours truly just might possibly be Hex's "encrapted" cousin, on that thread as well as the "new" thread (see #44).

Either those people are lying big-time about their professional experience, or our engineering schools need to do a better job of turning out more well-rounded graduates with people skills.


#52
m0rtaar 7/8/2003 07:49PM PST


#49 Frank IMC

I'm sorry, but I'm havin' too much fun winding this guy up. Read my latest to him, after his feeble attempt to discredit the NIST.

Keep up the good work, we need more "surfer logic" b/c it's on par with Hex's... DooOooOood ;-)

#53
m0rtaar 7/8/2003 08:02PM PST


#49 Frank IMC

For a laugh I checked out that website Hex wanted everyone too.

Yoiks.

Through a thick haze of bongsmoke I made out that 9/11 was just a way for the military-industrial complex to take over the government by a coup.

CIA agents blew up the WTC and what we thought were planes were just carefully manufactured hallucinations put into our brains by the previous night's evening news.

Wow, what a whackjob this "Carol" is. Go to Loon Central if you believe in Sasquatch, The Illuminati, Loch Ness Monster, The StayPuff Marshmallow Man, etc.

#54
Spiny Norman 7/8/2003 08:08PM PST


#41 lawhawk

I have a wack job at my website that posts stuff from IM, believing it enough to satisfy arguments without any critical examination of facts, and another guy who thinks that just because it's printed online there means it's true. Grrr.

Doncha just love it when they use other crackpot (crackpipe?) theories to back up their own idiocies?

#48 m0rtaar, #49 Frank IMC

Slapping Morlocks silly is great fun isn't it? A veritable shooting gallery, a "target-rich environment" one could say.

BTW, I use the same handle at all the sites where I post comments and I don't think anyone could accuse me of being an Indymidiot...

;^)

#55
Geepers 7/8/2003 08:19PM PST


Nods to Occasional Reader's bartender, "I'll have what he's having." ;-)

#56
Frank IMC 7/8/2003 08:50PM PST


m0rtaar:

The Institute of Microbiology is a large building full of LABS

That line had me ROFTL. And just what is a "person of chemistry" who supposedly works at the "Hoffman LaRoche Institute of Microbiology" doing setting up labs in coal mines and doing "experiments with nerve gas"?

*****

And here's the IMC thread in question: http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=330962&group=webcast

I've gone through about a third of it, and you lost, Hex.

You're just too dimwitted to see it.
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crappy

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 7:43 PM

where do you get such crappy quality pictures - you haven't posted a decent one yet !



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and

by Scottie Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 7:52 PM

What sort of people would do the above????

Here is a guy who was just going about doing his day to day job and he got shot in the forehead with a bullet. Poor fellow. he was innocent also...... sort of...
shall we hunt down his killers?
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what a joke - you exposed yourself even trying that lie

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Nov. 01, 2003 at 8:06 PM

hahahhahaaa

a couple of LGF trolls had to limp back to LGF to "gloat" by lying and making their own version up to comfort themselves

the actual thread in question shows *he* gave up

(this whole thing started when a person mentioned a website that has 9-11 stuff on it and it also has several dozen pictures of *Palestinians*)

it has some right-wing crap too, and some anti-zionist data (accurate)

they wanted to discredit the website, so they posted their usual LGF trademark discrediting spam..

I thought it was suspicious they trashed the site so quickly, when they couldn't have had time to read it (only a matter of minutes later)

So I surfed there and found out why (as above)

I looked the whole site over, started mirroring it, then posted on IMC that it's got Palestinian pics, plus the 9-11 and other stuff (I was always honest about what the site has, but my point is they can't trash the site when it's got *valuable information* on it - which I mirrored)

they then attacked the discussion about the 9-11 info and so on

it boiled down to moorter thinking himself "qualified" to paste and parrot standard government propaganda

which I faulted methodology, lack of samples, etc on (mostly in another nearby thread as I recall)

the standard ending to a LGF troll incursion into technical matters...

so now people know it was just LGF trolls playing their games (I suspected that at the time but didn't really care)

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your result

by sense Sunday, Dec. 07, 2003 at 12:23 AM

is this thread all youre good for jon..is it?
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