He went in on about Oct. 10 and should come out about Nov. 10.

The facility has treated many of the Hollywood crowd he loves to hate.

http://italy.indymedia.org//news/2003/10/401958.php

Piggy man stikes again! He is piggy man except he has a monkey on his back. I'd say right about now he is sweating big time. Go ahead piggy! Sweat that bad shit out...sweat it piggy. I hope he has a democrate as a nurse. Stick it hard honey! Sooooey!!!

"I'd say right about now he is sweating big time."

He's fine by now. And his detox was nothing.

Kicking on your own is awful.

In treatment it's fairly painless. He probably won't sleep for a week or two but the kicking is over in about three days.

Sorry to upset you deb.

How do I know all of this?
Thats right, i wasnt able to join the right wing neocon movement unless i was one.
One? you ask?
Yes , I was a junkie just like my hero GW and Limburger.
My comments come to you as a recovering addict.
ya see, i couldnt control my drug habit and needed help to control my self.
KInda like today
Only i cant think for myself and need someone to explain what is truth to me ....
I love fox news.
All praise GW
All praise to Israel.
Kill those paleostinians!!!!

In detox in Tucson? Good let him run around in the desert and sweat all that bad stuff out. Can't wait to hear more hypocrisy from the dotto-heads when he returns to the radio. "OOO we support you Rash."
But those words will ring hollow. He KNOWINGLY committed an ILLEGAL act by purchasing drugs on the street. If you are a dotto-head there can be no forgiveness. Period. Because that is the way they think. Right is right and wrong is wrong they so eloquently like to say. Or the dotto-heads will probably say,"Well we don't approve of anything you did, but we support you." Yea right. Just be ready for the Rash Lowbrow Hypocrisy train to be making a stop somewhere near you in November. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled the born again christian card. And then all will be forgiven. Usual right wingnut hypocrisy.

That he has you upset is enough to continue to support him.

The preceding comment is exactly what I mean. LOL.

Rush is Toast - he may return to the Airwaves but his morally superior tone no longer will have any edge. He has shown himself to be just another moralizing hypocrite toady of the NeoCon/Trotskyite Right.

The hard-core "true believers" will remain, but he will no longer have the authority that his positions require.

Further, even after he comes out of detox he is likely to be facing Indictment for purchasing drugs on the Black Market and for using his housekeeper as his Mule.

If he is indicted he will probably be forced to "retire" if he has not already done so from what has transpired already.

I almost feel sorry for the Bastard. He has risen to a great height and now is plummeting in flames into the abyss.

Bon Voyage!

"Those whom the the Gods would Destroy they first make great so that the fall will be all that much harder."
I don't recall who first coined that but I believe it was Aeschylus or Homer

He's far from toast. He'll do just fine.

His addiction was to pain killers because of operation, not like some coke or heroin addict on the street. There's a difference if you are able to understand. If not,.........who the fuck cares.

He won't face any charges. He has no prior offences and courts are linient on people who do this as a result of becoming addicted to their pain medication.

Wishing thinking, but he'll come out of it the same if not a stronger force than before. People like you who didn't like him anyway were never part of the equation.

SO LIBERALS have finally found a drug addict they don't like. And unlike the Lackawanna Six - those high-spirited young lads innocently seeking adventure in an al-Qaida training camp in Afghanistan - liberals could find no excuses for Rush Limbaugh .

After years of the mainstream media assuring us that Rush was a has-been, a nobody, yesterday's news - the Rush painkiller story was front-page news last week. (Would anyone care if Howell Raines committed murder?) The airwaves and print media were on red alert with Rush's admission that, after an unsuccessful spinal operation a few years ago, he became addicted to powerful prescription painkillers
Rush Limbaugh's misfortune is apparently a bigger story than his nearly $300 million radio contract signed two years ago. That was the biggest radio contract in broadcasting history. Yet there are only 12 documents on LexisNexis that reported it. The New York Times didn't take notice of Rush's $300 million radio contract, but a few weeks later, put Bill Clinton's comparatively measly $10 million book contract on its front page. Meanwhile, in the past week alone, LexisNexis has accumulated more than 50 documents with the words "Rush Limbaugh and hypocrisy." That should make up for the 12 documents on his $300 million radio contract.

The reason any conservative's failing is always major news is that it allows liberals to engage in their very favorite taunt: Hypocrisy! Hypocrisy is the only sin that really inflames them. Inasmuch as liberals have no morals, they can sit back and criticize other people for failing to meet the standards that liberals simply renounce. It's an intriguing strategy. By openly admitting to being philanderers, draft dodgers, liars, weasels and cowards, liberals avoid ever being hypocrites.

At least Rush wasn't walking into church carrying a 10-pound Bible before rushing back to the Oval Office for sodomy with Monica Lewinsky. He wasn't enforcing absurd sexual harassment guidelines while dropping his pants in front of a half-dozen subordinates. (Evidently, Clinton wasn't a hypocrite because no one was supposed to take seriously the notion that he respected women or believed in God.)

Rush has hardly been the anti-drug crusader liberals suggest. Indeed, Rush hasn't had much to say about drugs at all since that spinal operation. The Rush Limbaugh quote that has been endlessly recited in the last week to prove Rush's rank "hypocrisy" is this, made eight years ago: "Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. ... And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up."

What precisely are liberals proposing that Rush should have said to avoid their indignant squeals of "hypocrisy"? Announce his support for the wide and legal availability of a prescription painkiller that may have caused him to go deaf and nearly ruined his career and wrecked his life? I believe that would have been both evil and hypocritical.

Or is it simply that Rush should not have become addicted to painkillers in the first place? Well, no, I suppose not. You've caught us: Rush has a flaw. And yet, the wily hypocrite does not support flaws!

When a conservative can be the biggest thing in talk radio, earning $30 million a year and attracting 20 million devoted listeners every week - all while addicted to drugs - I'll admit liberals have reason to believe that conservatives are some sort of super-race, incorruptible by original sin. But the only perfect man hasn't walked the Earth for 2,000 years. In liberals' worldview, any conservative who is not Jesus Christ is ipso facto a "hypocrite" for not publicly embracing dissolute behavior the way liberals do.

In fact, Rush's behavior was not all that dissolute. There is a fundamental difference between taking any drug - legal, illegal, prescription, protected by the 21st Amendment or banned by Michael Bloomberg - for kicks and taking a painkiller for pain.

There is a difference morally and a difference legally. While slamming Rush, Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz recently told Wolf Blitzer, "Generally, people who illegally buy prescription drugs are not prosecuted, whereas people who illegally buy cocaine and heroin are prosecuted." What would the point be? Just say no to back surgery?

I haven't checked with any Harvard Law professors, but I'm pretty sure that, generally, adulterous drunks who drive off bridges and kill girls are prosecuted. Ah, but Teddy Kennedy supports adultery and public drunkenness - so at least you can't call him a hypocrite! That must provide great consolation to Mary Jo Kopechne's parents.

I have a rule about not feeling sorry for people worth $300 million, but I'm feeling sentimental. Evan Thomas wrote a cover story on Rush for Newsweek this week that was so vicious it read like conservative satire. Thomas called Rush a "schlub," "socially ill at ease," an Elmer Gantry, an actor whose "act has won over, or fooled, a lot of people." He compared Rush to the phony TV evangelist Jim Bakker and recommended that Rush start to "make a virtue out of honesty." (Liberals can lie under oath in legal proceedings and it's a "personal matter." Conservatives must scream their every failing from the rooftops or they are "liars.")

As is standard procedure for profiles of conservatives, Newsweek gathered quotes on Rush from liberals, ex-wives and dumped dates. Covering himself, Thomas ruefully remarked that "it's hard to find many people who really know him." Well, there was me, Evan! But I guess Newsweek didn't have room for the quotes I promptly sent back to the Newsweek researchers. I could have even corrected Newsweek's absurd account of how Rush met his current wife. (It's kind of cute, too: She was a fan who began arguing with him about something he said on air.)

Thomas also made the astute observation that "Rush Limbaugh has always had far more followers than friends." Needless to say, this floored those of us who were shocked to discover that Rush does not have 20 million friends.

So the guy I really feel sorry for is Evan Thomas. How would little Evan fare in any competitive media? Any followers? Any fans? Any readers at all? And he's not even addicted to painkillers! This week, Rush proved his motto: He really can beat liberals with half his brain tied behind his back.

This little apologia can be summarized as:

Liberals did it too! If it's good enough for them it's good enough for Rush. We'll just kind of sweep all of his support for incarcerating and persecuting other people for their frailties.

Rush Limbaugh: Talent on loan from Merck.

coulter is delusional.
I mean really....if you break down her arguments ...
they are just insane and really make no logical response.
Do the conservatives really like her?
Not the ones I know.
I am just so flabbergasted by reading the above post....its just nonsense.

I am certainly no great fan of Rush, but he has an illness much like alcoholism. There have been countless liberals who have gone before him and sought treatment. I would not treat this as someone who is getting high to escape. He had 2 back surgeries and was not able to get rid of the pain.

Too many people have gloted about his treatment and I think that is wrong, especially from the group that says they are forgiving and are always beating down the right wing as being cold and without feeling.

I have been laughing my ass off at all the conservatives(yea the cheap labor kind) who have been wagging a finger at liberals and scolding them for not "being liberal enough". It's like the right wing nutzo's are pissed because they feel they should have a lock on being mean spirited and narrow minded.

Plus Little Annie Coulter starts a column on Rash being a doper and then rails on Bill Clinton's book contract! What the hell does that have anything to do with Rash Lowbrow being a doper. Classic example of bullshit,hyperbole and non-sequiter. In addition if she forgives Rash for being a doper because he has a medical problem then she must also be in favor of medical marijuana in California. Those people are sick also,why can't they smoke a joint for their medical problems? Whoops their goes the right wing nutzo's argument for the War On Drugs. Come to think of it,didn't Little Annie Coulter recently write a column about how the War on Poverty was a failure because of the amount of money we have spent on it and there are still poor people. Just take the article substitute the words" War on Drugs" and most of the same arguments apply for dumping the Drug War. Look at all the money we spend on criminalizing drugs and yet people still do them. Ha.

Let's say that...Al Franken was discovered to have had an addiction to valium, vicodin, etc.

You right-wingers would be eating that shit up like Godiva chocolates.

And then people try and defend Rush by saying "He was addicted because of his back pain." Wouldn't you go to your doctor and say "Hey Doc, this medicine isn't working, could you give me something extra", instead of going out and ILLEGALLY buying thousands of prescription pills ?

Doing an illegal deed, no matter WHAT the grounds, makes you a criminal.

eg., a prostitute works the streets so that she can feed her children at home-gets arrested and thrown in jail, her children placed with CPS-even though her intentions were good, her deeds were not.

So I say:

A prominent public political figure has SEVERE back pain, almost debilitaing (benefit of the doubt) so he goes out and illegally obtains thousands of pills to relieve his pain. That man is by his actions a criminal-Rush Limbaugh, his views aside, is a criminal.

That's it.

...offered any excuse for any kind of illegal Drug use in any of his rants on the subject.

His standard and uniform position, repeatedly voiced, has been: "Lock em' up for a long time - no excuses".

What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander.

He is hoist by his own Petard.

So what's your point?

You're right.

He definetly broke the law. And he's a jackass to begin with.

But, beleive me. Having known lots and lots and lots of people strung out on all manner of drugs, it's VERY rare that an addict is prosecuted beyond treatment sentencing unless there's dealing involved.

If you expect him to go to jail, don't hold your breath.

That said, even I (well not "even I" as I've never been a big fan to begin with) think he's getting a little humble pie right now. I am interested in what his views will be henceforth.

It is true, however that the famous all users should be sent up " line is something like 8 or so years old, concievably older than his addiction.

I'll also say that even if the addiction started because of pain control, it quickly becomes addiction to euphoria. Make no mistake. You don't take oxycontin for long and still claim that it doesn't make you feel like God.

Pain is not the reason for Rush Limbaugh's addiction. Why didn't he get the spinal operation? Wouldn't that be preferable to becoming a criminal? Wouldn't that be preferable to ruining your hearing?

Why should we believe that he even has back pain? He said he has always been open about his life. That is plainly a lie.

He still is not serious about kicking the habit. Thirty days is a joke.

Even Ann Coulter knows that Limbaugh has savaged many groups, not just drug users. He opposed legal prescription drug benefits for others as he was spending megabucks for *illegally* acquired prescription drugs.

Grow Up!

Thirty days is all you need to get started in kicking the habit. After that, he can continue his rehabilatation at home with a live-in doctor or nurse to assist him. He's got the money to afford it, and good chance that's what he'll do.

Why didn't he get the spinal operation? Dumbass! He had an operation. It didn't work. Some people decide to cut their loses rather than chance making it worse. It's up to the individual. Nice to know you're so caring and compassionate, you fuck.

I oppose using my tax dollars to fund drug benefits for people who didn't have the foresight in life to invest and save for their own retirement. Why should I have to pay for people who didn't plan ahead? I'm tired of having to pay for myself AND for other people who were too stupid to think ahead of what they may need when they get old. I care enough to plan ahead for my needs. I expect others to do the same. If you're out there and you aren't planing ahead for the day you turn too old to work, then get off your fucking butt and start thinking ahead. No reason someone else who isn't even born yet should have to shoulder the burden of your sorry ass!

If this were someone who was a "D" they would be doing War Hoops and Dances.

But it's not.

Rush Broke the Law that he supports.

Deal with it hypocrites.

AC: Glad you got a "rush" out of my comment. Hope you know what a meme is.

We haven't seen or heard half the story on "Rush" Limbaugh.

But we wil.

Ann Coulter: If you are looking, name one compassionate thing "Rush" ever did. Then we wil find it easier to find compassion for "Rush."

AC: Glad you got a "rush" out of my comment. Hope you know what a meme is.

We haven't seen or heard half the story on "Rush" Limbaugh.

But we wil.

Ann Coulter: If you are looking, name one compassionate thing "Rush" ever did. Then we wil find it easier to find compassion for "Rush."

Northern Blights: "His addiction was to pain killers because of operation, not like some coke or heroin addict on the street."

Oh, this is too rich....

He became addicted not because of an operation, Douchebag...he became addicted because he ILLEGALLY abused his perscription. And when his perscription would no longer support his ILLEGAL HABIT...what did he do?....he BOUGHT HIS DRUGS ON THE STREET...just like any OTHER CRACK OR SMACK ADDICT....Did he seek help for his problem....NOPE! Not until his sad story was plastered all over and ALL KNEW WHAT A LYING FUCKING BLOWHARD HE REALLY IS....and the courts may be lenient, but that's not what your FAT HYPOCRITICAL FUCK was preaching now, was it? Do you need reminding? Or do you think that he should not have to be held to the same standards that HE HIMSELF held others to?

Of course you don't! You're Republican! LIE - CHEAT - STEAL (BIG) and you just LUV EM UP!

Stick a fork in the fat fuck....he's DOA....and it is FUNNY AS SHIT!

"Of course you don't! You're Republican! LIE - CHEAT - STEAL (BIG) and you just LUV EM UP! "

You sorta shoot yourself in the foot with statements like this.

They're just silly.

I think it's fair to say that I'm not a big fan of the democratic party any more either but I'd never say that all Dems are thieves or cheats. And I'd have no less ground or "proof" then you. It's all just sophomoric and stops discussion in it's tracks.

Anyway, for what it's worth, and my take on this and Rush is above, He DID go to treatment at least a couple of times in the last few years in an effort to get help and it is VERY easy to get strung out on these things taking them LEGALLY and just as prescribed.

I say that purely as an FYI not as a defence of Limbaugh. Not that his addiction needs defence. It's his rhetoric that is now in question.

Because I too , like Rush am a drug addict.
I also am a hypocrite like Rush.
I claim to be a Christian, yet never follow any of the tenets.
I am a cheat, a lame and a fraud.
I am destined to burn in hell for all eternity.

You would be better than my second wife Rosie.

She won't change my depends when I do a number two. She makes me sit in it for days.

It is not my fault I am a drunken spammer......

>He became addicted not because of an operation,


Another stupidism from kpc. What a surprise!!

Was he taking the pills before his back surgery? No. So it was only after he had the operation and a doctor prescribed them for the pain that he became addicted.

He's DOA? Let's see just how well your prediction works out.

Let's see, he makes $30 million a year. That's $82,191.78 a day which is what you make every five years. Poor boy.

How many failed predictions have you had recently? Arnold won't become governor was one. There's been others, I just lost count of them all. You're whole life is pretty much a failure so what would any of us expect.

You Moron.

As all of us lefties have to keep reminding you-IT DOES NOT MATTER WHY RUSH became addicted. Pay attention to the peaceable talk Fresca and I had the other day...


Brandon T.

>>Doing an illegal deed, no matter WHAT the grounds, makes you a criminal.

eg., a prostitute works the streets so that she can feed her children at home-gets arrested and thrown in jail, her children placed with CPS-even though her intentions were good, her deeds were not.

So I say:

A prominent public political figure has SEVERE back pain, almost debilitaing (benefit of the doubt) so he goes out and illegally obtains thousands of pills to relieve his pain. That man is by his actions a criminal-Rush Limbaugh, his views aside, is a criminal.

That's it.

Fresca replied-intelligently-by saying:

>>So what's your point?

You're right.

He definetly broke the law. And he's a jackass to begin with.

But, beleive me. Having known lots and lots and lots of people strung out on all manner of drugs, it's VERY rare that an addict is prosecuted beyond treatment sentencing unless there's dealing involved.

If you expect him to go to jail, don't hold your breath.

That said, even I (well not "even I" as I've never been a big fan to begin with) think he's getting a little humble pie right now. I am interested in what his views will be henceforth.

It is true, however that the famous all users should be sent up " line is something like 8 or so years old, concievably older than his addiction.

I'll also say that even if the addiction started because of pain control, it quickly becomes addiction to euphoria. Make no mistake. You don't take oxycontin for long and still claim that it doesn't make you feel like God.

No need to bash each other-no one is going to CONCEDE ANYTHING (except for maybe fresca and I) just because you call them a "shill" or "troll". It is only through well thought out arguments and debate that you people can learn anything from each other-that's why we're here, right ?

"IT DOES NOT MATTER WHY RUSH became addicted."

Yes, in a court of law, it does.

"Yes, in a court of law it does"

Okay, sure it matters why he became addicted in a court of law, but....

YOU and I BOTH know that if that were my ass, our YOUR ass, we would be fucked. You're in MAJOR denial if you think otherwise.

The only reason it matters is because Rush Limbaugh is as rich as god, influential, white and republican.

He will not go to jail.

Is that how our fair judicial system works ?

>You're in MAJOR denial if you think otherwise.

Got a guy I know down the road who became addicted to oxycontin after a failed attempt to fuse the vertebrae in his lower back. He got it anyway he could, he was in major pain. Different situation with him than Rush in that this guy left his wife and moved to New Mexico. She had tired to get him off the stuff, tried to get him into rehab and he wouldn't go. So he left. Grabbed the two dogs and took off.

He got popped when right after he moved out. His wife contacted the police because she didn't know what happened to him, she told them about his addiction, and he was arrested. Judge sentenced him to probation and rehab. So my own experiences with it tell me that it has nothing to do with being white, or rich or Republican or anything else. It has everything to do with how the person became addicted.

>>It has everything to do with how the person became addicted. <<

Why do you keep the CRIMINAL aspect out of this-the buying THOUSANDS of pills-anyway he could.

I'm glad the dude you know didn't get locked up, but his crime sounds like it was significantly less severe than Rush's.

If Rush Limbaugh hadn't have aquired SO MANY pills, or been such a staunch supporter of the war on drugs, maybe I wouldn't have the same feelings.

Sorry.

Listen up guy and quit guessing.

This guy was popping them like Rush was. His wife said he was up to 20 or so a day, and this guy weighed like 135 lbs. He didn't want treatment, he just wanted to take what it took to kill the pain. This stuff grabs you and doesn't let go.

As far as criminal, I'll let the courts decide.

My understanding of his standing of the war on drugs parallels my own, that is, people should be incacerated for pushing illegal drugs, whether it be marijuana, cocaine, herion, or any other hard drug. Those who are taking drugs simply for the pleasure of getting the "high" from the drug should also be jailed.

There's a big difference between that and people who become addicted to a drug because of an illness or because of pain. I have sympathy for them. I don't have sympathy for a recreational cocaine user.

>>Those who are taking drugs simply for the pleasure of getting the "high" from the drug should also be jailed.<<

Okay, so what about the people who have glaucoma and smoke mary J to ease their pain ? Not a valid argument ? Throw the people in the cannibis clubs in jail then, stop letting them toke up.

>>As far as criminal, I'll let the courts decide.<<

That's what I'm arguing for-the judicial side of his charges, not whether or not I should feel sorry for him as a person addicted to painkillers.

>>Those who are taking drugs simply for the pleasure of getting the "high" from the drug should also be jailed.<<

Okay, so what about the people who have glaucoma and smoke mary J to ease their pain ? Not a valid argument ? Throw the people in the cannibis clubs in jail then, stop letting them toke up.

>>As far as criminal, I'll let the courts decide.<<

That's what I'm arguing for-the judicial side of his charges, not whether or not I should feel sorry for him as a person addicted to painkillers.

I believe any drug can be used for correct medical purposes, but there's better treatments for glaucoma than marijuana.

>That's what I'm arguing for-the judicial side of his charges

The "judicial side" of the charges (what charges) I'll leave up to the court.

Different strokes for different folks!
See you at the Bonaventure on the 21st!

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Tommy Chong: : funny entertainer entrepreneur

http://www.sacticket.com/24hour/entertainment/movies/news/story/1039564p-7302482c.html

Oct. 29, 2003 

Judge refuses to release Tommy Chong from jail


PITTSBURGH (AP) - A federal judge ruled that Tommy Chong's prison sentence for conspiracy to sell drug paraphernalia would likely stand and refused to release him from jail pending an appeal.

The 65-year-old actor and comedian, best-known for his portrayal of a drug-addled ne'er-do-well in the Cheech and Chong movies, pleaded guilty to conspiracy last spring in federal court and was sentenced to nine months in prison.

He reported Oct. 8 to begin serving his prison term. The ruling by U.S. District Judge Arthur Schwab was dated Thursday.

Prosecutors said Chong grew wealthy by glamorizing drug use and trivializing law enforcement in his films. He used his celebrity to promote his business with mail orders for bongs and other drug paraphernalia, prosecutors said.

Agents seized thousands of bongs and pipes when they raided his business, Nice Dreams Enterprises, Inc.


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Rush Limbaugh: : lying scumbag pill addict

https://www.claremont.org/events/030803churchill.html

Rush Limbaugh to Keynote Churchill Dinner on
November 21, Los Angeles, CA


The Claremont Institute is proud to give nationally syndicated talk-show host and political commentator Rush Limbaugh its Statesmanship Award at the annual Churchill Dinner in Los Angeles on Friday, November 21. Limbaugh will be the keynote speaker; fellow radio commentator Hugh Hewitt will serve as master of ceremonies. The dinner will be at the Westin Bonaventure, 404 S. Figueroa Street. Reception begins at 6:00, dinner at 7:00. Business attire.

To make a reservation, please contact Nancy Padilla at (909) 621-6825, or click here to RSVP online.


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(Why not give Claremont a call?
Let em know what you think.)

"The only reason it matters is because Rush Limbaugh is as rich as god, influential, white and republican. "

Brandon, you might be right, to a point.

I think being rich is enough.

Certainly, I think we've all seen enough examples of countless rich Celebrities who are almost exclusively Democratic get off scott free.

I'll think of a list if you actually doubt me.

Claiming that being republican would aid in the matter was sorts silly, don't you think?

Allow me to rephrase:

Rush Limbaugh won't go to jail because he's rich as God, white, influential, and is a major player in the Republican party.

Not strictly because he's republican.

Regardless, his ass won't go to prison...

If he were a democrat, I would've said he was a "major player in the Dem. party" upon rephrasing.

I don't know if you know this, but I have NO political affiliation at all.But I admit that I side with the left on most issues. I voted for Bush in 2000, so I can't be lumped with those who hated him from the get-go.

I'll go with "silly". Describes it more accurately.

Wow, Delray Beach.

I would expect nothing more from someone from the state of Florida.

I have been to almost 25 states for some period of time, and I have never met more stupid people.

I rephrased my comment for Fresca, but I guess it wasn't good enough for YOU, right ?

You have no business even writing anything concerning me-or my arguments with Fresca, unless you have something on the topic to add.

That was silly, too. Please refrain from writing silly remarks. Also, refain from dislikeing people calling your remarks "silly" as fresca did. You didn't like having your remarks being called "silly", but they were. You need to face that your remarks were, in fact, "silly", grow from it, and move on.

It was not silly.

Silly would have been me saying that "Rush Limbaugh is a fat ugly doodiehead."

It was a poor choice of words-hence the rephrasing.

What is silly is the fact that you keep writing me to tell me that what I wrote was silly.

Grow from it ? My god, there's got to be something else you can throw at me.

If, and when Fresca replies, I expect him to accept my rephrasing, and drop it, or either start another conversation with me on Rush.

You are acting quite juvenile right now, "Boston" or "Delray Beach". Did you agree with me on the Floridian comment I made and change your locale ?

I do find that most Northeasterners are far more intelligent that my southern counterparts-good choice. I actually went to Prep school in Mass. Nice city change.

People from Massachusetts are idiots. Hence, Ted Kennedy.

i think brandon have a affinity to having
anything he say or do being called
silly sorta like colored people who get
all upset if someone be calling them boy it
really rattles dare cage but if thats what
they be then you should just call them boy

>>i think brandon have a AFFINITY(?) to having
anything he say or do being called
silly sorta like colored people who get
all upset if someone be calling them boy it
really rattles dare cage but if thats what
they be then you should just call them boy<<

Now Toby-you sound like some of my buddies who live in central Florida. Nice redneck name, too.

Classic Indymedia.

Now the topic of the thread is how silly I am, and how "colored" people oughta be called "Boy."

Thanks for proving so many of our points about the true nature of many people on this site-that they have no interest in intellectual exchange, only personal degredation and base insults-with horrible sentence structure and grammar too.

If you look above, you'll notice that this thread was ONCE about Rush Limbaugh, his treatment, and possible prosectution....

"If, and when Fresca replies, I expect him to accept my rephrasing, and drop it, or either start another conversation with me on Rush. "

Absolutely.

The only thing that bums me out is that there's not much else here to talk about concerning Rush.

We're pretty much in agreement.
The only thing I would add, is that I still maintain that money and fame are the only two factors required for the "get out of jail free" card.

Political affiliations are almost moot it seems.

Like the title says-I agree 100%.

I can't believe the American Judicial System allows this to happen so often.

Unbelieveable that everyone knows beforehand what will happen to entertainers and athletes when they get arrested-nothing at all.

Yet there's never any SERIOUS outcry against this practice.

Is it because people couldn't stand to not have Eddie Murphy in his movies ? Or Hugh Grant ? Or Jean-Claude Van Damme ? Or Wynona Ryder ? Or anyone one of the DOZENS of stars arrested for crimes ?

"Yet there's never any SERIOUS outcry against this practice. "

On the contrary, I think the general public roots for these people.

Living in LA, I see this all the time.

People rallying behind Winona.
The entire city almost demanding that KOBE go free. (obviously he's innocent until proven guilty, but the public almost seems outraged that he's even being bothered by a trial..and they hate the girl)

It goes on and on.

I don't understand it.

Just passing and thru and saw this.

Toby is the name given to Kunta Kinte by his master in the Alex Haley movie "Roots", hardly a "redneck" name. Nice to know you label people so easily though, you fucking elitist.

Thanks for your obligatory watching of "Roots".

Let me rephrase that also.

Toby is a deep-south, confederate flag-waving, nigger-whippin, whisky swillin, slave-owning, bible preaching, good ol' boy name.

It is by no means a "redneck" name.

Nice stereotyping. Please do us all a favor and kill yourself.

Did you even see what "toby" wrote...you call me an elitist, but defend his ass.

Maybe you oughta watch roots one more time, my friend. Get back to me.

I don't care if "toby" called you a nigger. Not everything deserves to be responded to and certainly implicating people as "rednecks" puts you at his level. Is that what you wanted to do? Apparently so. You accomplished lowering yourself to his level and returning the same in kind all in one swoop. Nice going.

You said:

>>don't care if "toby" called you a nigger<<

That's pretty self-explanatory. But you did condemn ME for replying to it with more base insults, right ?

Don't get mad I called him a redneck if you're another one of the "good 'ol boys", you can SHARE the title. Or I can just call you "bigot" instead !

Don't feed me that "Turn the other cheek" bullshit. You wouldn't do it either-but then again, no one calls you nigger, right ?

I didn't call you a nigger. I used it as an example. Get over yourself.

You called someone a redneck because they angered you. You didn't turn the other cheek which is exactly what you should have done. You should have just ignored it and it would have made "toby" look stupid and what he said would have had no validity. Instead, you returned in kind. An eye for and eye. Yeah, that'll work.

Are you reading anything you write about ?

>>You wouldn't do it either-but then again, no one calls you nigger, right ?<<

I didn't say you did, ass. Let me get this straight once and for all...

Someone used racial slurs when replying to a post I wrote. No one says anything at all-nothing.

As soon as I call Toby a redneck, YOU start berating me. So what you're saying is...

I can call you a....honky... But if YOU reply, then you are in the wrong, right ?

Honky.

That's right. If someone is childish enough to return an eye for an eye, then they are in the wrong as much as the first person was in the wrong.

If you're gonna last here at laimc, you better learn when to ignore the name calling and just move on, or you'll be tippy-typing yourself into a frenzy. Someone says something stupid, don't give them the pleasure of a response.

I don't take "nigger" the same way I take someone calling me...

asshole, fag, shill, cocksucker, leftist garbage, a nazi, shit, loser, or any other name you can think of.

I can CHOOSE to be an asshole, or a bitch, or a cunt, nazi, theorist, zionist-whatever.

What I CANNOT affect is the color of my skin. It has no bearing on who I am inside. So, it is very unfair to call me something because of my race. That should be reprimanded, not me "defending" myself my by stooping to "his level."

That is not calling names. Nigger is prejudice.

Good. So if someone calls you nigger, ignore them. Are they really worth responding to? Is calling them a name like redneck gonna do anything to make you a better person? Sometimes it's the guy who throws the second punch who starts the fight. Notice I haven't responded to anything you've called me? Tht's because it wasn't worth responding to.

Yeah, the second guy usually does start the fight...

But you're that third guy, trying to jump in and help, who gets accidentally stabbed while the original two guys look on-and you had no business interfering in the first place.

If you're going to survive in the world itself, I suggest you stay out of other people's conflicts, Roots.

Don't tell me to ignore him, and then jump on mY back-you unneccessarily complicated yourself.

That's not how the real world happens. Sometimes you need a moderator. Sometimes you need someone to let you know you shouldn't have thrown the second punch. This was one of those times. One day, when you step away from it, you'll see that it is true. Being in the heat of it as you are at this time, I don't expect you to see it. Later on it will become more clear to you.

Good day.

I've already had my bottle, and am ready for sleep. Thanks, Dad.

Why can't niggers become astronauts?

They can't stand saying "Yes, NASA. No, NASA."