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Reference Links: Jews against Zionism

by Humanitarian Wednesday, Oct. 15, 2003 at 8:01 AM

Zionists, and Israel, do not speak for all Jews - not even a majority. Any attempt to claim otherwise is Zionazi Propaganda.

  Shalom and Welcome to the Jewish Peace Fellowship - http://www.jewishpeacefellowship.org
Founded by Rabbis in 1941. Supports conscientious objectors.
  Tikkun Magazine - http://www.tikkun.org/
Pacifist voices of conscience and reason, edited by Rabbi Michael Lerner in San Francisco.
  Yesh Gvul - http://www.yesh-gvul.org/english.html
The movement for soldiers of the Israeli Defence Force (IDF) refusing to serve in the Occupied Territories.
  Gush Shalom - http://www.gush-shalom.org/english/index.html
The website of the prominent Israeli peace movement features thought-provoking articles by its dissident director, Uri Avnery.
  PEACE NOW! - http://www.peacenow.org.il/English.asp
Israeli pacifists for Palestinian self-determination within 1967 borders.
  Not In My Name: Taking Action for a Just Peace in Israel and Palestine - http://www.nimn.org
NIMN, based on their belief in Judaism, oppose "Israeli Government brutality against Palestinians".
  Junity - Jewish Unity for a Just Peace - http://www.junity.org/
Jewish peace groups which agree on ending abuses of Palestinian human rights and Israel's self-destructive settlement policy.
  B'tselem - http://www.btselem.org/English/Publications/index.asp
The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories, reports on Israeli abuses such as torture, shootings, home demolitions, and settler violence.
  Jewish Voice For Peace (SF Bay Area) - http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/
This SF Bay Area grassroots organization is dedicated to the rights of Jews, Palestinians, and all peoples in the Middle East. They believe conflict won't end until Israel removes settlements. Site includes petition, listserver, resources, media.
  Why do they hate US? by Stephen Shalom - http://www.zmag.org/shalomhate.htm
Time-line of US interventions in the Middle East from 1948.
  Open Tent Middle East Coalition - http://www.opentent.org
Arab and Jewish groups of mutual goodwill. California-based.
  The 94 Percent Solution: A Matrix of Control (Middle East Report) - http://www.merip.org/mer/mer216/216_halper.html
Jeff Halper, director of the Campaign Against House Demolitions, explains how the chicanery of apartheid chokes off Palestinian life in myriad ways.
  oznik.com: news headlines - http://oznik.com
A small I/P resistance news-service publishes reports from Palestine under IDF occupation, with the motto "We are all Palestinian Refugees".
  Building Settlements, Killing Peace (Antiwar.com) - http://www.antiwar.com/hacohen/h052601.html
Ran HaCohen writes "The Settlements are the Occupation" and "The Fallacy Industry".
  Jews NOT Zionists - Torah-true Jews against Zionism - http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/
"Any form of Zionism is heresy from the Torah viewpoint and the so-called 'State of Israel' is illegitimate". Menu includes links and quotes to Anti-Zionist Jewish organizations and statements, and the wisdom of Judaism on the Middle East Quandary.
  Australian Jewish Democratic Society - http://www.ajds.org.au/
"Committed to Peace and Social Justice, Reconciliation between Nations and Peoples, and Nuclear Disarmament". Contents include News, Mid East Conflict, Library, Peace Links, Readers' Forum, Newsletters, and Activities.
  Tom Segev's "One Palestine, Complete" Book Review - http://www.salon.com/books/int/2001/12/08/palestine/
Segev wrote in "One Palestine, Complete" how the British Mandate favored Zionism. In this interview he sees an evolution of Israeli willingness to accept responsibility for the Palestinian tragedy.
  Noam Chomsky Lecture at MIT on Mideast Crises, Dec 14, 2000 - http://www.media.mit.edu/~nitin/mideast/chomsky_lecture.html
One of America's most brilliant intellectuals portrays two rogue states against the world - the US and Israel.
  "Israel Isn't David . . . It's Goliath" - http://www.progressive.org/mr0701.html
Matthew Rothschild of The Progressive magazine interviews Irena Klepfisz of The Jewish Women's Committee to End the Occupation
  Right livelihood awards - http://www.rightlivelihood.se/recip1987_5.html
Israeli scientist Mordechai Vanunu, kidnapped by Mossad abroad and life-sentenced to solitary confinement for revealing that Israel has nuclear warheads, is commemorated here for his courage and sacrifice.
  Matzpun = Hebrew for Conscience - http://www.matzpun.com
"The authors of this appeal are Jews whose families have been victims of racism and genocide, and who feel they cannot remain silent." They appeal to the world to boycott Israeli goods and leisure travel.
  Taayush - http://minerva.tau.ac.il/~alon/taayush.html
Food convoys to the territories, articles.
  Neturei Karta - http://www.netureikarta.org/
Orthodox Jews who condemn Zionism and the brutal treatment of the Palestinians as a heresy and violation of the Torah.
  Zionism in the Age of the Dictators, by Lenni Brenner. - http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/index.htm
Full-length, on-line history book with details of political infighting, including how and why Zionists fostered Hitler as a "godsend" to force the creation of the Jewish state, whatever the cost. Bibliography.
  Writings of Israel Shamir - http://www.israelshamir.net/
Apartheid dissolves in this brilliant journalist's lyric vitriol. His articles, bio and links to friends and adversaries are found on his page.
  Press Freedom Heroes: Amira Hass (Haaretz) - http://www.freemedia.at/IPIReport2.00/22Hass.htm
This dissident Israeli journalist reports from the Gaza Strip and Ramallah, where she has taken up residence.
  SF Jewish Film Festival - Al-Nakba - http://www.sfjff.org/sfjff18/programs/p0722b.html
The Palestinian Catastrophe 1948, a documentary.
  Nathan Weinstock: Zionism - False Messiah - http://www.marxists.de/middleast/weinstock/index.htm
This on-line book continues the analytical tradition of Karl Marx' anti-nationalist and anti-colonialist view of The Jewish Question.
  Closure and Apartheid: Seven Years of "Peace" through Separation, by Allegra Pacheco - http://www.library.cornell.edu/colldev/mideast/pachec1.htm
Allegra Pacheco, an Israeli human rights attorney, noted for prosecuting the first Israeli torture trial, describes how the closure of the West Bank and Gaza since 1993 is in violation of international law, and an extreme hardship for the people.
  MidEastFacts Select author index - http://www.mideastfacts.com/index_author.html
Articles by over 100 prominent anti-Zionist authors, of whom about one-third are Israeli.
  Securing Occupation: The Real Meaning of The Wye Memorandum - http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/id66.htm
Norman Finkelstein, author of "The Holocaust Industry", analyzes how Israel expels the indigenous population in defiance of the UN.
  Israel Shamir Archive - http://shamir.mediamonitors.net/index.html
Palestine is not a dead object, she is a living country. Palestinians are her soul.
  Jewish Opposition to Zionism - http://codoh.com/zionweb/ziondark/zionoppdex.html
Historical documents showing persistent Jewish support for pluralistic democracy rather than segregation.
  Rodfei Shalom - Jewish Peacemakers Delegation to Israel/Palestine - http://www.geocities.com/jewishpeacemakers/index.html
"Olive Tree Summer 2001" was a delegation of Jews from North America and the world to Israel / Palestine to participate in nonviolent protest.
  Jewish Bulletin: Israeli who protects Palestinians from IDF's bullets speaks here (November 09, 2001) - http://www.jewishsf.com/bk011109/eb20.shtml
Liad Kantorowicz, 23-year-old Israeli-American activist, says Israelis feel victimized while they are the ones victimizing Palestinians, and works against apartheid to make Israel a better place to be from.
  Palestine: What Americans need to Know -- but probably won't be told -- to Understand Palestinian Rage - http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/palestine/eduardoCohen.html
Eduardo Cohen of KPFA sees the depth of Israeli racism and repression in Palestine, and of incomprehension and censorship on the subject when he returns.
  Felicia Langer - A portrait. Al Ahram Weekly - http://www.ahram.org.eg/weekly/1998/402/pal2.htm
Ostracised and repeatedly threatened with death at the hands of her own people, lawyer Felicia Langer has not flinched since she adopted the Palestinian cause.
  Build Palestinian Confidence in What? (IHT) - http://www.iht.com/articles/26300.htm
Henry Siegman of the Foreign Relations Council, former executive of the American Jewish Congress, points out that Israel has not offered peace, but only continued occupation.
  A Spokesman For Justice: A Tribute to Rabbi Elmer Berger - http://www.washington-report.org/Washington-Report_org/www/backissues/1096/9610012.htm
by Grace Halsell. Founder of American Jewish Alternatives to Zionism (AJAZ), believer in core values of Judaism and democracy which Zionism tramples on.
  Jeff Halper: Simply look at the maps - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JewishPeaceNews/message/400
Israeli anthropology professor shows how Barak's "best offer" makes geographical shreds of Palestine.
  Like Father, Like Son: A Tribute to Moshe and Yehudi Menuhin, by Grace Halsell - http://www.washington-report.org/Washington-Report_org/www/backissues/0796/9607018.htm
"Jews should be Jews, not Nazis" - Moshe Menuhin on Israeli oppression of Palestinians.
  The Jews Are Not A Race! - http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/7891/notrace.html
Alfred Lilienthal debunks the Hebrew descent of European converts to Judaism.
  Benjamin Freedman - A Jewish Defector Warns America - http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/freedman.html
The famous 1961 speech by this New York businessman exposes "Zionist control of the US Government," including the plot to push the US into WWI in order to annex Palestine, thereby sowing seeds of Nazism and Communism.
  Palestine Media Watch - http://www.pmwatch.org/pmw/links/jewishorganizations.html
List of Pro-Palestinian Rights Jewish Organizations.
  Gideon Levy: Like the old days in South Africa - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JewishPeaceNews/message/773
Raymond Louw, editor who fought apartheid in South Africa, finds Israel even worse, because it aims at expelling the indigenous oppressed.
  "The Second half of 48" - The Sharon-Ya'alon Plan (by Tanya Reinhart) - http://www.mediamonitors.net/tanya8.html
How Alon became Ya'alon - Oslo as a tool to "finish the job" of liquidating the people of Palestine.
  Albert Einstein and Martin Buber Quotes - http://www.aai-us.org/main.html
Einstein: "I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish State." Buber: "our murderous sickness of causeless hatred is bound to bring complete ruin upon us. Only then will our land realize how great was our responsibility to those Arab refugees in whose towns we settled."
  Amy and the Jews - http://courant.ctnow.com/news/special/ne/amy_0715.stm
Amy Pagnozzi, the Hartford Courant's spunky columnist, plunges into a media firefight.
  WRMEA: If All Rabbis Were Like Arik Ascherman, Middle East Peace Would Be Attainable - http://www.wrmea.com/archives/october01/0110015.html
Rabbi Ascherman of Rabbis for Human Rights actively protests the demolition of Palestinian homes, and admits the right of return of refugees to a secular democratic state.
  An Unconditional Withdrawal from the Territories is Urgently Needed (lemonde/zmag) - http://www.zmag.org/content/Mideast/ayalonwithdr.cfm
Ami Ayalon, chief of Israeli security Shin Bet 1996-2000 , places blame for violence on Israel and calls for withdrawal and acceptance of a contiguous Palestinian state.
  Jews Speak Out Against the Occupation - http://www.cam.org/~rsilver/jewspeakout.htm
Pacifist, dissident Montreal organization's call on Jews to stand up and demand an end to war and apartheid, with list of signers.
  The Bible Unearthed (rense.com) - http://www.rense.com/general18/bible.htm
Larry Saltzman, a horticulturalist, actively opposed the occupation upon Israel's wanton destruction of orchards. He reports on a new archaelogical consensus that undermines Zionism: ancient Israel was Canaanite, not Hebrew.
  Muhammad's Killer - http://www.mediamonitors.net/netagolan1.html
Chatting with a stranger, activist Neta Golan discovers the young soldier who gunned down her young Arab friend in cold blood.
  In Memoriam, Israel Shahak. Obituary by Norton Mezvinsky (WRMEA) - http://www.wrmea.com/archives/october01/0110071.html
Eulogizes a man of courage and conviction, born in a Polish ghetto, died in Jerusalem, who blazed a scholarly trail with radical writings on the reactionary character of Zionism and Talmudic Judaism.
  Interviews in Occupied Territory. - http://www.occupied.org
Mainly audio - video dialogue around demolished houses in Hebron.
  With Jews Like These... - http://masada2000.org/selfhate.html
Denouncing Jews who are active in the peace movement, or who question Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, as self-hating enemies of the state.
  Siege of the Innocent by Rachelle Marshall - http://www.koutayba.com/palestine/siege.html
A Jewish home in Palestine built upon bayonets and oppression is not worth having. Rabbi Judah Magnes, letter to Chaim Weizmann, 1929.
  Independent News: British Jews at odds after rabbi criticises Israel - http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=101898
A prominent liberal, Rabbi Dr David Goldberg, provoked consternation by describing Israel as the "last colonial power in the world" and "a golden calf."
  South African Jews Polarized Over Israel (washingtonpost.com) - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A63012-2001Dec18.html
Anti-Racism Leaders Equate Country's Treatment of Palestinians to Apartheid.
  Yahoo Groups : JewishPeaceNews - http://www.egroups.com/group/JewishPeaceNews
This public news list on the Middle East Conflict and US intervention posts current news and comment pieces, moderated by pro-Palestine American Jews.
  Victor Ostrovsky [broken link] - http://www2.southwind.net/~amfirst/ostrovsk.htm
A former Mossad spy talks about Israel's behind the scenes influence on the U. S.
  On the Palestinian Right of Return - http://tari.org/marc_Ellis.htm
This Essay by Marc Ellis is "A Jewish Meditation on History, Rights and Return".
  Yahoo! Groups : al-awda-unity - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/al-awda-unity
Jewish activism for Middle East justice.
  Ariga: from the Intersection of Three Continents since 1995 - http://ariga.com
Israeli e-zine linking to Human Rights Groups, Rabin's Last Speech, historic documents, Jewish-Arab Dialogue, Non-supremacist Religious Zionism, News from Ha'aretz, Dukium - the Negev Coexistence Forum, Shalom/Salaam/Welcome Peace Links, Magazines Supporting Peace, Stop the 911 War.
  Jews against the Occupation - New York City - http://www.angelcities.com/members/jato
Activism, events, resources, discussion board.
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Nope

by realist Wednesday, Oct. 15, 2003 at 9:03 AM

More than one of the groups on your list is explicity Zionist.
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For instance...

by realist Wednesday, Oct. 15, 2003 at 9:15 AM

The first few organizations on your list are all Zionist.

Tikkun Magazine - http://www.tikkun.org/

Anyone who is aware of Lerner's condemnation of anti-Semitism on the left will be more than aware of his Zionist political beliefs.

Yesh Gvul - http://www.yesh-gvul.org/english.html

"With members drawn from a range of political views, Yesh Gvul is not bound to any specific peace program. Its overall aim is to combat the misuse of the IDF (Israel Defense Force !) for unworthy ends, and terminate the occupation. The group is united on the “two-state” solution, as the key to peaceful resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, in the interests of both peoples."

Gush Shalom - http://www.gushshalom.org/english/index.html

Aims:
The primary aim of Gush Shalom is to influence Israeli public opinion and lead it towards peace and conciliation with the Palestinian people, based on the following principles:

Putting an end to the occupation,

- Accepting the right of the Palestinian people to establish an independent and sovereign State of Palestine in all the territories occupied by Israel in 1967,

Reinstating the pre-1967 "Green Line" as the border between the State of Israel and the State of Palestine (with possible minor exchanges of territories agreed between the parties); the border will be open for the free movement of people and goods, subject to mutual agreement.


PEACE NOW!

Shalom Achshav [Peace Now], was founded in 1978 by 348 reserve officers of the Israel Defense Forces who believed that only a negotiated end to the conflict in the Middle East could bring true security to Israel and her people.

There may be others on your list as well but I am aware of the political positions of these organizations.

I am a member of Americans for Peace Now.

Americans for Peace Now (APN), the U.S. partner of Israel's Peace Now (Shalom Achshav) is the leading American Zionist organization working to help Israel achieve a secure peace with the Arab states and the Palestinian people.

Please be honest for a change. People might actually listen to you "anti-Zionists".
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That's all very well and good, but...

by nonanarchist Wednesday, Oct. 15, 2003 at 10:27 AM

...have you considered that Palestinian leadership, form the inception of Israel, has stated over and over that it will never accept the state of Israel? That their goal is one Palestine, from sea to river?

That they want all Jews dead?

Tough to make peace with someone like that.

All that aside, I do think your goal, a two-state solution, is a good one, and one worth working toward.

Best of luck and God speed.
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Spin

by Spin Free Thursday, Oct. 16, 2003 at 7:32 AM

The Myth and lie is that all Jews accept and support the inhumane actions of the Israeli government. They do not. To assert otherwise is a lie. To assert otherwise is contrary to Torah.

Here's what Michael Rivero at What Really Happened had to say:

"Contrary to the propaganda put out by Israel's supporters, Israel is NOT supported by the majority of the world's Jewish people. Ariel Sharon does not speak for all Jewish people. And being anti-Israel is not "anti-Semitic".
Yesterday's posting of a list of websites run by Jewish people opposed to Israel's policies prompted a strong reaction, indeed an over-reaction. Articles appeared on several pro-Zionist web sites denouncing this page for posting the list and denouncing any Jewish people who didn't support Ariel Sharon, dismissing them as a tiny minority of dissenters, kooks, "self hating Jews", and so forth.

So strong was the response that it called attention to itself. And it appears that popular support for Ariel Sharon may be as much of a manufactured media myth as are Bush's approval ratings.

It is easy to understand why Sharon's supporters are concerned. IDF up to the rank of General are refusing to attack civilians in Palestine. Israeli citizens are serving as human shields for Arafat. As the photos above prove, Jewish people of conscience are standing side by side with Arabs opposed to the Mideast wars and protesting in front of the Israeli embassy.

This is a critical problem for Sharon and his backers. They need the illusion that they have the support of 100% of the world's Jewish people so that they can deflect criticism by screaming "Jew hate" and "anti-Semite". Sharon and his supporters cannot justify or explain their actions against Arabs or their continued defiance of the United Nations, or their buildup of weapons of mass destruction. Their only defense is to be able to brand critics as "hate groups".

But those defenses all fall flat if Sharon's critics are themselves Jewish. The "self hating Jew" label has never worked to silence critics of Sharon's policies who are Jewish, and even Israeli. And the recent rampage of Sharon supporters engaging in hacking, threats, and obscene phone calls, is an admission that they know they have lost the argument on its merits. Only by blurring the line between criticism of Sharon's policies and racial hatred of Jews can Sharon and his supporters continue to evade the world's criticism for their war crimes. But as more and more Jewish people start to speak out against Sharon's policies, that device will simply cease to work. And that is why Sharon's supporters have reacted as strongly as they have to the suggestion that Jewish people are not in agreement with what is happening in Palestine."

For more details visit: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/
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Bumpity Bump

by Natty Bumpo Thursday, Oct. 16, 2003 at 5:28 PM

Bump, bump, bump, ya all.
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Its true

by fresca Thursday, Oct. 16, 2003 at 6:56 PM

"The Myth and lie is that all Jews accept and support the inhumane actions of the Israeli government. They do not. "

It's true. No jews support this.

Simply because to defend yourself against animals is not inhumane.

There are a few Jews who have given into the fashion pressure of hating Israel for being the only non-stoneage society in the Middle East..
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An end to Killing

by Humanity Cries for Peace Saturday, Oct. 18, 2003 at 8:46 AM

What is needed is not more killing. An end to this blood fest. Killing begets killing, begets killing, begets killing...

What is needed is a willingness to grant to others the right to exist and an acknowledgement of a common humanity.

Both sides have shown failings in this regard. Someone has to come up with the courage to say ENOUGH already.
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rasheel

by publish Wednesday, Apr. 04, 2007 at 4:28 AM
mohamed_mokhtar100@yahoo.com 0126939458 cairo

iwant u help me to publish my story in israel usa (rasheel) about jewish in germany in 1939 it is very good pl help me
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Yeah sure

by neonazi lies Wednesday, Apr. 04, 2007 at 8:56 PM

These nefarious accusations are mendacious and insane as usual.

"In the years leading up to the Nazi Holocaust in Germany, many Jews sent out pleas for help to others Jews who were in positions of influence. Unfortunately, the response from the powerful Zionist Jews in the US was nix (nada, zip, nothing) as they claimed any intervention with the Nazi Holocaust would derail their plans for the Zionist state of Israel.. "

None of these Jews claimed any such thing or you'd be able to furnish back up for this charge.
The US Jewish establishment was silent due to timidity. As they were interested above all else in demonstrating loyalty to their rather recently new homeland, they feared raising their voices against the US government's inaction about the Jewish plight in Europe would have dire repercussions for them.
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"The US Jewish establishment was silent"

by this day in Jewish history Wednesday, Apr. 04, 2007 at 10:14 PM

http://thisdayinjewishhistory.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2007-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-06%3A00&updated-max=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-06%3A00&max-results=50

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This Day, April 4, 2007, In Jewish History
April 4 In Jewish History

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1933: A gigantic anti-Nazi protest rally, organized by the American Jewish Congress, was held in New York City. 55,000 people attended and threatened to boycott German goods if the Germans carried out their planned permanent boycott of Jewish-owned stores and businesses.

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"The established Jewish community was LARGELY silent."

by caught red handed, they try to weasel out Thursday, Apr. 05, 2007 at 7:25 AM

If they weren't a pack of liars, they would have told you the whole truth the first time, and not waited till they got caught read handed in a lie, and then try to squirm out with weasel words. They're still not telling the whole truth.

For example:

http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ch24.htm

(snip)
The Emergency Committee

Only one of the Zionist groups understood that rescue had to become their top priority. A small number of Irgunists had gone to the USA to raise funds for their illegal immigration, and when the war broke out they added a demand for a Jewish Legion which they, like the WZO, saw as Zionism’s immediate goal. In April 1941 they noticed some articles by Ben Hecht, one of America’s most famous journalists, in PM, a liberal New York daily paper, deploring the silence of Jewish social, political and literary figures on the situation of European Jewry. The Irgunists convinced Hecht to help them set up a “Committee for a Jewish Army of Stateless and Palestinian Jews”. Hecht approved of the idea, because he could see they were fighters and that was what he wanted: a Jewish army that would kill Germans in revenge for the Jews Hitler humiliated and murdered. Hitherto the Irgunists had played a very minor role in the Jewish political scene; however, with Hecht on their committee the Revisionists became a semi-serious force. He knew everybody in Hollywood and the publishing world. When their advertisements appeared in the major newspapers they looked as if they were an actual part of wartime politics.

Although the Irgunists had missed the full significance of the earliest massacre reports, Wise’s statement convinced their leader, Peter Bergson, that they had to push for American government action specifically on behalf of the Jews. They planned to bring a pageant, They Shall Never Die, to Madison Square Garden on 9 March 1943. Some of the most famous theatrical people of the age – Kurt Weill, Billy Rose and Edward G. Robinson amongst many others – started to put it together. This was too much for Wise, who was not willing to be upstaged by any Fascist interlopers. The Jewish establishment suddenly announced its own rally in the Garden for 1 March. The Committee for a Jewish Army tried to bring about unity by off
ering to withdraw as exclusive sponsor for the 9 March event, if the establishment would agree to co-sponsor it, but it refused. [29] The result was that two separate rallies on the same Jewish tragedy took place in the Garden only nine days apart. Both were well attended; the Hecht-Weill pageant filled the arena twice on the same night. The real difference was that the circle of followers around Wise were primarily moved by their hostility to the Irgunists and had no genuine plans for a sustained mobilisation, whereas the Committee for a Jewish Army toured America’s major cities with their pageant. Wise’s American Jewish Congress, infuriated by their success, ordered its local branches around the country to try to keep the pageant out of auditoriums wherever it could, and the pageant was denied a performance at Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Buffalo at least. [30]

“But what have we really achieved?” Kurt Weill asked. “The pageant has accomplished nothing. I know Bergson calls it a turning point in Jewish history, but he is stage struck. Actually all we have done is make a lot of Jews cry, which is not a unique accomplishment.”

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"Wise"

by history buff Thursday, Apr. 05, 2007 at 7:33 AM

Stephen Samuel Wise was an American Zionist leader back in the days when Zionism was still considered a left wing cause, i.e., before leftists wised up.

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Wise
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There was NOT a coordinated response from the American Jewish Community

by too timid Thursday, Apr. 05, 2007 at 8:37 AM


The established Jewish community was LARGELY silent. The voices of sanity that urged action were often ignored.
The American community as a whole felt that they needed to be good little Jews- they needed to conform to the demands of their host society, or they too would be rejected.

But there will always be Jews who are unafraid to speak out.
There will always be voices that will rise above the silence.
There will always be Jewish voices that demand justice.

http://www.sfvoiceforisrael.org/
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"The established Jewish community was LARGELY silent."

by Zionists distort history Thursday, Apr. 05, 2007 at 1:21 PM

http://www.humanitas-international.org/holocaust/1930-34t.htm

(snip)

1933 February 22 The American Jewish Congress, American Jewish Committee and B'nai B'rith (Sons of the Covenant) form a joint conference committee to examine the German situation.

(snip)

1933 March 19 The Jewish War Veterans of America initiates an anti-Nazi boycott.

(snip)

1933 March 20 The American Jewish Committee and B'nai B'rith jointly condemn Germany for denying German Jews their basic rights.

(snip)

1933 March 22 A "Stop Hitler, Now" rally at Madison Square Garden in New York City is attended by 20,000 people.

(snip)

1933 March 27 The American Jewish Congress sponsors a mass anti-Nazi demonstration in New York City.

(snip)

1933 August 16 The American Jewish Congress sends an open letter to President von Hindenburg urging him to dismiss Hitler as Chancellor.

(snip)

1933 August 20 The American Jewish Congress joins the anti-Nazi Boycott.

(snip)

1934 January 22 The American Jewish Congress establishes the Merchandising Council to Strengthen Boycott against German Goods and Services.

(snip)

1934 March 21 The American Jewish Congress and New York Central Labor Council establish the Joint Boycott Enforcement Council against German goods and services.

(snip)

* * * * *

etc.
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""The established Jewish community was LARGELY silent."

by non sequitur Thursday, Apr. 05, 2007 at 2:28 PM

This refers to a comment that hidden:

http://la.indymedia.org/news/hidden.php?id=88837#196312
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astute observation

by lots of them Friday, Apr. 06, 2007 at 10:11 PM

>There will always be Jewish voices that demand justice

Indeed there will.

For example:

http://tinyurl.com/2u3a25
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Hidden history of Zionist/Nazi complicity

by Zionists looked away during Nazi holocaust Thursday, Apr. 12, 2007 at 3:55 PM

Since something in my previous post offended somebody, i'll attempt to repost this info in a more concise way. As always, it will piss some people off. That's the price of free speech, or are we censoring info on laimc now??

We'll start with this website "Jews Not Zionism" that seems to anger people, especially the so-called moderates. We need to ask, what is their fear of Orthodox Jewish Rabbis who oppose Zionist Israel??

"It was a man possessing outstanding Judaic genius, and a level of uncontested holiness who enunciated the Jewish stance regarding Zionism. This charismatic individual, the Rebbe of Satmar, Grand Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum, did not mince any words. Straight to the point he called Zionism "the work of Satan", "a sacrilege" and "a blasphemy". He forbade any participation with anything even remotely associated with Zionism and said that Zionism was bound to call the wrath of G-d upon His people. He maintained this stance with unwavering bravery from the onset of Zionism whilst he was still in Hungary up until his death in New York where he lead a congregation numbering in the hundreds of thousands. Grand Rabbi Teitelbaum, scion to a legacy of holy mystics and Hassidic Masters unfortunately had his prediction fulfilled. We lost more than six million of our brothers, sisters, sons and daughters in a very horrible manner. This, more than six million holy people had to experience as punishment for the Zionist stupidity. The Holocaust, he wept, was a direct result of Zionism, a punishment from G-d.

IT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT ALL THE SAGES AND SAINTS IN EUROPE AT THE TIME OF HITLER'S RISE DECLARED THAT HE WAS A MESSENGER OF DIVINE WRATH, SENT TO CHASTEN THE JEWS BECAUSE OF THE BITTER APOSTASY OF ZIONISM AGAINST THE BELIEF IN THE EVENTUAL MESSIANIC REDEMPTION.

Auschwitz. But it doesn't end there. It wasn't enough for the Zionist leaders to have aroused the wrath of G-d. They made a point of displaying abysmal contempt for their Jewish brothers and sisters by actively participating in their extermination. Just the idea alone of Zionism, which the rabbis had informed them would cause havoc, was not enough for them. They made an effort to pour fuel on an already burning flame. They had to incite the Angel of Death, Adolf Hitler. They took the liberty of telling the world that they represented World Jewry. Who appointed these individuals as leaders of the Jewish People?? It is no secret that these so-called "leaders" were ignoramuses when it came to Judaism. Atheists and racists too. These are the "statesmen" who organized the irresponsible boycott against Germany in 1933. This boycott hurt Germany like a fly attacking an elephant - but it brought calamity upon the Jews of Europe. At a time when America and England were at peace with the mad-dog Hitler, the Zionist "statesmen" forsook the only plausible method of political amenability; and with their boycott incensed the leader of Germany to a frenzy. Genocide began, but these people, if they can really be classified as members of the human race, sat back.

It is an historical fact that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that:

a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and

b) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and

c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily.

The Zionist leaders in Switzerland and Turkey received this offer with the clear understanding that the exclusion of Palestine as a destination for the deportees was based on an agreement between the Gestapo and the Mufti.

The answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments:

a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees.

b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a "Jewish State" at the end of the war.

c) No ransom will be paid

This response to the Gestapo's offer was made with the full knowledge that the alternative to this offer was the gas chamber.

These treacherous Zionist leaders betrayed their own flesh and blood. Zionism was never an option for Jewish salvation. Quite the opposite, it was a formula for human beings to be used as pawns for the power trip of several desperadoes. A perfidy! A betrayal beyond description! "

entire article @;
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/holocaust-zionism.htm

To the good people in the laimc censorship depot;

you will not shut be up, less a bullet to my brain. Yes, i will continue posting what i and others feel is relevent historical info relating to the Zionist state of Israel and the Nazi holocaust. If you cannot figure this out out your own, let me explain;

There is nothing in this piece that celebrates the deaths of millions of Jews from the Nazi holocaust. This article from Jews not Zionism expresses deep regret that the Nazi holocaust occured, and specifically because IT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED!!

The anger is directed at the Zionist entity that enabled the Nazi holocaust to occur. The present day form of this racist Zionist entity is the apartheid state of Israel..

Nor does this article release the Nazi regime of Germany from any responsibility for their actions in the mass murder of millions of Europes Jews. This is common knowledge, though the lesser known role of Zionists is one of complicity to the crimes of the Nazi regime..

So who are these folks at Jews Not Zionists and why do they hold such 'extreme' views on the Nazi holocaust and Israel??

Here's their intro;

"Contrary to common perception, Jewish anti-Zionism is not restricted exclusively to the well know Jewish anti-Zionist movements such as Satmar and Neturei Karta.

There are in fact many Jewish movements, groups and organizations whose ideology regarding Zionism and the so-called "State of Israel" is that of the unadulterated Torah position that any form of Zionism is heresy and that the existence of the so-called "State of Israel" is illegitimate.

No one has had to create any antagonism between our Torah and Zionism because such antagonism exists by virtue of the essence of Judaism itself, which can never tolerate the heresy of Zionism.

Zionism is wrong from the Torah viewpoint, not because many of its adherents are lax in practice or even anti-religious, but because its fundamental principle conflicts with the Torah.

Unfortunately, due to many undesirable factors, the view of Torah-true Jewry has been concealed from the general public.

We, the staff at www.jewsnotzionists.org are delighted that with the advance in media technology a substantial benefit to researchers, students, and the general public has been made available. We are elated at the advantage which the internet provides for the presentation of and accessibility to a position so widely held yet so deliberately ignored by many a Zionist-inclined medium.

It is our hope that the information presented on this site will be of benefit to all and that we soon merit the peaceful dismantlement of the so-called "State of Israel" and that Jewish-Muslim brotherhood be restored as prior to the arrival of the Zionist scheme on the global scene."

The Difference Between Zionism and Judaism
Why Is World Jewry Opposed to the Zionist State?
Judaism and Zionism - Radio Broadcast

intro @;
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/index.htm

So if the laimc censorship brigade has a problem with me specifically posting their website content, then by all means, let it be known. If the laimc censors have doubts about the veracity of info on Jews not Zionist website, then take it up with them. Censorship of this info is considered an act of cowardice and in this case no different than the scumbags in the GW bush regime who attempt to conquer the world with their deceit..

so bring it..

i ain't going NOWHERE!!













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Hidden history of Zionist/Nazi complicity

by Zionists looked away during Nazi holocaust Thursday, Apr. 12, 2007 at 3:55 PM

Since something in my previous post offended somebody, i'll attempt to repost this info in a more concise way. As always, it will piss some people off. That's the price of free speech, or are we censoring info on laimc now??

We'll start with this website "Jews Not Zionism" that seems to anger people, especially the so-called moderates. We need to ask, what is their fear of Orthodox Jewish Rabbis who oppose Zionist Israel??

"It was a man possessing outstanding Judaic genius, and a level of uncontested holiness who enunciated the Jewish stance regarding Zionism. This charismatic individual, the Rebbe of Satmar, Grand Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum, did not mince any words. Straight to the point he called Zionism "the work of Satan", "a sacrilege" and "a blasphemy". He forbade any participation with anything even remotely associated with Zionism and said that Zionism was bound to call the wrath of G-d upon His people. He maintained this stance with unwavering bravery from the onset of Zionism whilst he was still in Hungary up until his death in New York where he lead a congregation numbering in the hundreds of thousands. Grand Rabbi Teitelbaum, scion to a legacy of holy mystics and Hassidic Masters unfortunately had his prediction fulfilled. We lost more than six million of our brothers, sisters, sons and daughters in a very horrible manner. This, more than six million holy people had to experience as punishment for the Zionist stupidity. The Holocaust, he wept, was a direct result of Zionism, a punishment from G-d.

IT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT ALL THE SAGES AND SAINTS IN EUROPE AT THE TIME OF HITLER'S RISE DECLARED THAT HE WAS A MESSENGER OF DIVINE WRATH, SENT TO CHASTEN THE JEWS BECAUSE OF THE BITTER APOSTASY OF ZIONISM AGAINST THE BELIEF IN THE EVENTUAL MESSIANIC REDEMPTION.

Auschwitz. But it doesn't end there. It wasn't enough for the Zionist leaders to have aroused the wrath of G-d. They made a point of displaying abysmal contempt for their Jewish brothers and sisters by actively participating in their extermination. Just the idea alone of Zionism, which the rabbis had informed them would cause havoc, was not enough for them. They made an effort to pour fuel on an already burning flame. They had to incite the Angel of Death, Adolf Hitler. They took the liberty of telling the world that they represented World Jewry. Who appointed these individuals as leaders of the Jewish People?? It is no secret that these so-called "leaders" were ignoramuses when it came to Judaism. Atheists and racists too. These are the "statesmen" who organized the irresponsible boycott against Germany in 1933. This boycott hurt Germany like a fly attacking an elephant - but it brought calamity upon the Jews of Europe. At a time when America and England were at peace with the mad-dog Hitler, the Zionist "statesmen" forsook the only plausible method of political amenability; and with their boycott incensed the leader of Germany to a frenzy. Genocide began, but these people, if they can really be classified as members of the human race, sat back.

It is an historical fact that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that:

a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and

b) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and

c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily.

The Zionist leaders in Switzerland and Turkey received this offer with the clear understanding that the exclusion of Palestine as a destination for the deportees was based on an agreement between the Gestapo and the Mufti.

The answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments:

a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees.

b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a "Jewish State" at the end of the war.

c) No ransom will be paid

This response to the Gestapo's offer was made with the full knowledge that the alternative to this offer was the gas chamber.

These treacherous Zionist leaders betrayed their own flesh and blood. Zionism was never an option for Jewish salvation. Quite the opposite, it was a formula for human beings to be used as pawns for the power trip of several desperadoes. A perfidy! A betrayal beyond description! "

entire article @;
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/holocaust-zionism.htm

To the good people in the laimc censorship depot;

you will not shut be up, less a bullet to my brain. Yes, i will continue posting what i and others feel is relevent historical info relating to the Zionist state of Israel and the Nazi holocaust. If you cannot figure this out out your own, let me explain;

There is nothing in this piece that celebrates the deaths of millions of Jews from the Nazi holocaust. This article from Jews not Zionism expresses deep regret that the Nazi holocaust occured, and specifically because IT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED!!

The anger is directed at the Zionist entity that enabled the Nazi holocaust to occur. The present day form of this racist Zionist entity is the apartheid state of Israel..

Nor does this article release the Nazi regime of Germany from any responsibility for their actions in the mass murder of millions of Europes Jews. This is common knowledge, though the lesser known role of Zionists is one of complicity to the crimes of the Nazi regime..

So who are these folks at Jews Not Zionists and why do they hold such 'extreme' views on the Nazi holocaust and Israel??

Here's their intro;

"Contrary to common perception, Jewish anti-Zionism is not restricted exclusively to the well know Jewish anti-Zionist movements such as Satmar and Neturei Karta.

There are in fact many Jewish movements, groups and organizations whose ideology regarding Zionism and the so-called "State of Israel" is that of the unadulterated Torah position that any form of Zionism is heresy and that the existence of the so-called "State of Israel" is illegitimate.

No one has had to create any antagonism between our Torah and Zionism because such antagonism exists by virtue of the essence of Judaism itself, which can never tolerate the heresy of Zionism.

Zionism is wrong from the Torah viewpoint, not because many of its adherents are lax in practice or even anti-religious, but because its fundamental principle conflicts with the Torah.

Unfortunately, due to many undesirable factors, the view of Torah-true Jewry has been concealed from the general public.

We, the staff at www.jewsnotzionists.org are delighted that with the advance in media technology a substantial benefit to researchers, students, and the general public has been made available. We are elated at the advantage which the internet provides for the presentation of and accessibility to a position so widely held yet so deliberately ignored by many a Zionist-inclined medium.

It is our hope that the information presented on this site will be of benefit to all and that we soon merit the peaceful dismantlement of the so-called "State of Israel" and that Jewish-Muslim brotherhood be restored as prior to the arrival of the Zionist scheme on the global scene."

The Difference Between Zionism and Judaism
Why Is World Jewry Opposed to the Zionist State?
Judaism and Zionism - Radio Broadcast

intro @;
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/index.htm

So if the laimc censorship brigade has a problem with me specifically posting their website content, then by all means, let it be known. If the laimc censors have doubts about the veracity of info on Jews not Zionist website, then take it up with them. Censorship of this info is considered an act of cowardice and in this case no different than the scumbags in the GW bush regime who attempt to conquer the world with their deceit..

so bring it..

i ain't going NOWHERE!!













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reson for hiding

by one of the ( other ) editors Thursday, Apr. 12, 2007 at 4:34 PM

The previous hidden posts were the result of not distinguishing between Jews and Zionists clearly.
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