We are already designing the boycott calls. Vote for Arnold and your tourist industry will be TERMINATED.

Boycott away. Where will you make all the movies YOU want to watch, Ohio?

Europe and Latin America are far better sources of movies than Hollytrash.

Then, like I said, boycott away. Your'e like a fly on a windshield.

Real American? Not quite. Real Americans don't determine their travel plans based upon who the governor is. In fact, my own personal success is never based upon who is in the White House or who controls Congress or any other governmental factor. I am successful because of the work ethics I demand of myself on a daily basis.

Even limited intellects like Arnold Hitler and Ronnie

"Where's the Rest of Me?" Reagan have or had enough sense not to publicly state that the Republicans are the party of the rich and the affluent - those used to having others wait on them. I wish you could be put on national television so that you could make statements like that. Why don't you tell the hotel employees that stuff the next time you check into some ritzy place - it will probably make them even more eager to vote Republican than they would be anyway.

Remember one thing, Mr. upscale suburban spoiled brat - there are a lot more of us than there are of you. Someday we are really going to put that superiority in numbers to work.

Someday we ARE really going to put that superiority in numbers to work. It is past time for we serbs to quit bowing the knee to the greed-mongers and corporate structures that keep us all enslaved to the almighty dollar while our fellow humans teeter on the brink of catastrophe. We must organize! We must do it NOW!! Let's sit around and talk about it.

Don't make me laugh.

You pinheads couldn't organize a pub crawl.

Arnold is going to be our next Governor.

A great day for California.

....gee, Fido admires a lying fascist criminal buddy of Ken Lay...

...what a surprise.....

No proof of any of the following:

Lying.

Fascist.

Criminal.

Buddy of Ken Lay.

Other than that you are correct. I admire the success of an immigrant who came here with nothing rising to become Governor of the most populous State in the country.

Wupping you is too easy son.

Fido: "No proof of any of the following:

Lying.

Fascist.

Criminal.

Buddy of Ken Lay. "

Oh, gee...a lying shit protecting a lying shit...what are the chances of that?

Let's see...

Lying - Arnolds campaign initially denied the charges that Arnie later admitted to in San Diego. I am sure that HIS campaign checked before responding to the allegations. HIS campaign, speaking for him, denied it.

Umm...to non-Republicans, that is a lie. Republicans, understandably, would not know a lie if it was dicking them in the ass.

Fascist - Arnold was asked to offer up an example of his heros. Arnold offered Adolf Hitler.

Case closed.

Criminal - He is a serial assaulter and has admitted it over a 30 year period. The only reason he isn't doing time is because of who he is. Remember...HE HAS ADMITTED IT! I leave it to shits like you to tell me what the difference between assaulting women on a movie set is different than assautling women in the oval office.



Kenny Boy's Buddy - Here

http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/utilities/rp/rp003709.pdf

Of course, now Arnie can't remember meeting Kennyboy...which makes him a LIAR (see additional proof above).



There. Back to peelin' spud Fido. Didn't ever work up a sweat tossin' lightweights like you....

Well, there you go again.

Lying - Arnold never denied anything. The fact that employees of his said something doesn't mean he did.

by your own admission Arnold admitted to being on rowdy movie sets and partaking in the activity therein.

Umm... to anyone with a knowledge of anything, that is not a lie.

Fascist - the quotes attributed to Arnold have been badly distorted. Of course a half-retarded Leftist like you merely hears the name Adolf Hitler and you get the vapors.

What he said is that he admired Hitler's speaking ability and the fact that he rose to power having started with nothing. He went on to make clear that he condemned what Hitler did after coming to power. Umm...to anyone with half a brain that doesn't make him a Fascist.

Criminal- He is an actor who has been on dozens if not hundreds of movie sets. He has engaged in the collegial atmosphere common to these sets. NO ONE has ever pressed charges against him. He has NEVER been arrested or even questioned by police regarding sexual battery. Learn to use the proper terminology, Junior. An ass grab is not a crime if the grabbee doesn't press charges.

Kenny Boy's Buddy - unsubstantiated e-mails with dozens of names on them reproduced in the fever swamps of indymedia don't impress me. Why aren't you in a lather about Katzenberg being present? Andy what, pray tell does any of this mean? Are you suggesting that Katzenberg and Schwartzenegger conspired with Ken Lay to bankrupt California so as to bring about a recall election which would install Hitler's love child (Arnold) in power? Of course Ken Lay's going to financial ruin and being prosecuted must have been left out of the equation.

So, having finished peeling your pathetic attempts at logic, I guess I'll get to them spuds.

Gee, you're a terrible apologist

Lying - His campaign denied the charges. Are you telling me he was not aware that the campaign was saying this? Of course he did. But he did clarify it, nope...he let it "lie"...I'll leave it to the shitheal like you to try to equivocate that lie

Fascist - I didn't quote anything. You are the one trying to parse out this shit. FACT - Arnold was asked to offer up heros and he offered Adolph Hitler. End of fuckin story.

Criminal - He has admitted to behavior that is criminal. If you engage in criminal behavior, you are a criminal. Again, end of story. Equivocate away.

Kennyboy's Buddy - He is. Has Schwartzengroper denied he was at the meeting? Noooooo. But he conveniently forgets...FORGETS about a meeting with the notorious Ken Lay...a meeting that took place in the middle of the energy crisis? HA! Whattta liar! Nobody believes that. So why did Kennyboy invite Schartzengoosestepper? Well, in the AUTHENTIC emails sited, Kennyboy says he is inviting Riordan because he had aspirations to be governor...is doesn't take a genius to figure he wanted Arnus there for the same reason.

Now, how are those spuds comin' along.....

So

So you think you can tell

Heaven from Hell

Blue skies from pain

Can you tell a green field

From a cold steel rail

A smile from a veil

Do you think you can tell

Did they get you to trade

Your heros for ghosts

Hot ashes for trees

Hot air for a cool breeze

Cold comfort for change

Did you exchange

A walk on part in the war

For a lead role in a cage.

What a joke.

Liar- Arnold's campaign made its statement of denial and Armold made his personal statement of admission on the same day. What exactly did this 'lie' gain him? A lie would have been his saying no he never grabbed a butt anywhere any time. But he didn't. He told the truth. If his campaign issued initial denials, they were quickly corrected. Sorry they don't run as tight a ship as you would like.

Fascist- this is exactly my point. I READ what people say, and UNDERSTAND what they mean. You HEAR SECOND HAND what people say and RUN YOUR IGNORANT MOUTH.

Criminal - He has admitted to no crime. But since you are such an expert on the law, kindly demonstrate to our audience which statute (Local, State, or Federal) Arnold is in violation of.

(note to readers: This will normally cause KPC to resort to cursing excessively, ignoring the challenge and eventually ceasing to post on this thread. So say goodbye to KPC now.)

Ken Lay's Buddy - again, prove the documents as being authentic. They read rather comically false. Furthermore, three dozen executives were supposedly present at this meeting including Katzenberg and Michael Eisner. Are you suggesting that Mickey Mouse is in league with Hitler to overthrow Saint Gray (er, Joe) Davis?

Argue with the simple one if you wish. This military implant, like daveman/nonanarchist

is a waste of time.

They have their operational orders to promote the riechwing no matter how glaringly

amoral it may be. . If they were told to justify torture or terrorism

in the name of their corrupt leadership they would do so demand the word of God written in stone to verify it was wrong. Then demand that the stone be verified to be stone of an accepted quarry of a given accepted type, then argue that the semantics meant that the words were not what was written. Then they would suffer amnesia and go back to the original BS they began with.

Just go out and vote

Fido: "Arnold's campaign made its statement of denial and Armold made his personal statement of admission on the same day."

LIAR - Yes, his campaign made a statement of denial the same day he admitted to being a criminal. But it was not the first time the issue came up, and it was not the first time his campaign denied it. So they were following standard orders to lie regarding the subject, that is, until Arnie decided that it was getting too hot....then he retracted his earlier lie, but still did not have enough balls to address what it is exactly he was admitting as "behaving badly".

FASCIST - Here is the central FACT: Arnold was asked for examples of his heros, and he offered Adolph Hitler. Case Closed.

CRIMINAL - "He has admitted to no crime". Oh, you have to admitt it to be a crime? Well, let's just open up all those jailhouse doors...soft-on-crime Republicans say you gotta admit it for it to be a crime.

Idiot.

KENNYBOY'S BUDDY - They are authentic. FTCR has been working on utility issues for years. They are close to the source, alot closer than idiots like you. Do you have any facts to back up your claim, other than (snicker...snicker) reading comically false...as for your Mickey Mouse and Hitler fantasy...jerk off on your own time, needledick....we are talking about Arnold...y'know, that liar you support? Yeah...him...not REMEMBERING...but of course...you find nothing strange in that lie.

GOP=LIAR. Everybody knows that...thanks to SrubnSchartzengroper!

Arnold -

- Liar

- Criminal

- Hitler Admirerr

- Kennyboy's Buddy

Get used to it.

Whoo-hoo!!

Someone pisssed in KPC's Corn Flakes.

You're a loser.

Get used to it.

...when you selectively quote them. For instance:

"...KPC... was asked for examples of his heros, and he offered Adolph Hitler.

FACT: ...he...did not have enough balls to...admit it.

Everybody knows that...he...is...a... needledick.

Case Closed."

OK, Fido, let's see how alergic you are to the truth..

In the interview, Arnold was asked about his heros, correct?

Yes or No.

That's GOVERNOR Arnold to you, serf.

OK, Fido, let's see how alergic you are to the truth..

In the interview, Arnold was asked about his heros, correct?

Yes or No.

The New York Times reports this morning that the quotation about Hitler comes from verbatim transcripts of an interview with Arnold Schwarzenegger, included by George Butler in a 1975 book proposal. In that book proposal, Butler quotes Schwarzenegger speaking of Hitler: "I admire him for being such a good public speaker and for what he did with it."

The New York Times adds:

"But early this morning, Mr. Butler called back, saying he had driven back to his New Hampshire home and found another transcript of the interview, with different wording: 'I admire him for being such a good public speaker and for his way of getting to the people and so on. But I didn't admire him for what he did with it. It's very hard to say who I admire, who are my heroes.'"

Butler apparently attributes the difference to trouble that he had understanding and transcribing Schwarzenegger's accent . . .

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/03/national/03BOOK.html

Now...are you actually going to sit there and tell me Arnold said Hitler was his hero?

If so, you are complete idiot and a liar.

Not that I need any more confirmation of that, by the way...

Now, Fido...I know this is hard to follow....I know it is difficult to plant lies when so many facts are out to get you...

...I am not talking about his verbatim response, but what question he was responding to. He was asked about his heros and the first one THE FIRST ONE HE OFFERED WAS ADOLPH HITLER. So I guess that is what I am telling you. Arnold was asked about his heros, and he offer up Hitler. You got a problem with that, take it up with your boy.

Are you trying to deny that the original question was about who Arnolds heros were?

Yes or No.

How you like them apples, KPC?

You are no good at this argument stuff son. Never have been and never will be.

Your daughter's got to be nine now, right? Try winning a game of "I know you are but what am I?" against her, then work your way up to "does that hurt? does that hurt?". Eventually you'll be able to argue with the Junior high kids.

Maybe.

But you aren't listening to his answer:

"I admire him for being such a good public speaker and for his way of getting to the people and so on. But I didn't admire him for what he did with it. It's very hard to say who I admire, who are my heroes."

Now...from that, how in the world do you get that Hitler was his hero?

It's simple, really...you dont' like Arnie, so you look for any reason at all to back up that dislike...and you hear "hero" and "Hitler" in the same paragraph, and you wet your pants.

If you still claim it's true, might I remind you of your quote I posted above, which proves that Hitler was your hero, and that you have a needledick.

Of course it hard for KPC to follow. He has to support the lie he's already told himself.

Arnold said 'I admire him for being such a good public speaker and for his way of getting to the people and so on. But I didn't admire him for what he did with it. It's very hard to say who I admire, who are my heroes."

You know, if you just take part of a statement, and not put it in the context of the whole statement, you can make up whatever you want. But, that's what liberals do.

>Your daughter's got to be nine now, right?

Oh Shit! That asshole has reproduced?? Kill it!!

Going after my family, huh...

...who are you, Karl Rove?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Now, I got a question for you, Fido.

How many people, when asked who their heros are, could ONLY come up with one...

....and that one is Hitler?

How many?

Face it...your boy is a fascist, once closeted...now OUTED!

Now...get back to equivocating.....

The asshole has a family? Kill Them!!

Given up on defending the indefensible, huh?

Well I can't blame ya...I mean, shit, you were looking like such a douchebad...I mean more so than usual.....

"I know...I...plant lies...to get you.

"I am...talking about...heros...ADOLPH HITLER. So I guess that is what I am telling you.

You got a problem with that... take it up... your boy...Yes...

It is up to the voters to decide if past comments and past actions by Arnold mean anything. There will always be those that whatever he says or does will not please them. These type of people are on the fringes of society and are to be ignored at every turn without fail.

Fido...let's try to walk you though this....I know...stupidity may trip you up, but baby steps, dude...OK?

ONE

Arnold was asked who his heros were

YES or NO.



TWO

Arnold could only offer one - Adolph Hitler.

YES or NO



Let's stop there...wouldn't wanna tax your brain, there.

"Let's stop there..."

Because if you kept going, it would prove you;re lying:

"But I didn't admire him for what he did with it. It's very hard to say who I admire, who are my heroes."

Now, please continue to insist black is white.

Your ineffectual flailings are amusing.

Later. Time to make spaghetti.

Old. Old. Old.

We can get this on the main stream media. Get to the whacko conspiracy stuff you're so good at. When are the aliens going to come down and check into the FEMA hotels?

Why can't you answer two simple questions:

ONE

Arnold was asked who his heros were

YES or NO.



TWO

Arnold could only offer one - Adolph Hitler.

YES or NO



Very simple. Two questions.

If you don't address them, then it is obviously "check and mate", dude.....

Hey dumbass. I'm not noanarchist. He went to grab something to eat. You're dealing with me now.

"Check and mate", Ooooooo. The voters will decide whether they like Arnold or not. It looks like you and the electorate are polar opposites.....again.

KPC, do you realize that if you could snap you fingers and the world could be exactly like you would want it to be, all people on Earth would be better off dead?

Let me know when you get around to makin some fuckin' sense, dingleberry....

Of course, I wouldn't know sense if it came up and kicked me in my one good eye, so what do I know.

"Republican wit"...

.....obviously an oxymoron.....

EXIT POLLS SHOW RECALL, SCHWARZENEGGER POISED FOR EASY WIN

Headline, Drudgereport, 4:11 PM PST.

Arnold -

- Liar

- Criminal

- Hitler Admirerr

- Kennyboy's Buddy

Get used to it.

Looks like your buddy Arnie is getting a new house.

What I want to know is, are you and your lefty pals going to go picket Sacramento with "Heil Arnie" signs?

How about "Hitler Died, Arnie Sighed"?

Anyway, yo may continue to lie adn distort for fun and profit.

You will anyway; might as well have my blessing. At least try to change the lyrics on your one-note song every once in a while, huh?

You didn't think this was going to be over just cause he gets elected, did you?

Oh, that's right...of course you did...you're an idiot!

Arnold -

- Liar

- Criminal

- Hitler Admirerr

- Kennyboy's Buddy

GOP=LIAR

Get used to it.

You can't make these cheap labor conservatives feel weird about anything that has to do with absolute power because secretly they are like George(Little Boy Emperor)Bush,they love that stuff. Just like Boy Emperor himself said,"This would be easier if I were dictator." The cheap labor conservatives LOVE anything that has to do with TELLING people what to do and HOW to live. They all have the same weird dream.....absolute power.

I think it's almost masochistic...I mean, most of these crumbbums are in a social class that are continually being fucked by the Republicans, but they come back for more! Either that or, like you say, they have a power fetish...so they being so powerless get a boner over those that do....

It really is pretty creepy....but also it is becoming more and more obvious, and that will not be good for the Republican party...

Heck, you guys are STILL whining about the 2000 election.

Quick question: How much good has your complaining over that election done? Any results from that?

Take your time.

KPC (constant refrain "Hitler Admirer" and "Fascist") mano a mano with krankyman (constant refrain "cheap labor conservative.")

Enjoy the next three years, assholes.

Think about the annoying laugh in the Simpsons HA ha!

Hey KPC my guy won and your guy lost.

Ha ha. (simpsons sound).

Once again no rebuttals , no arguements, no viewpoints. Just name calling and frozen, stifled thinking from the neanderthal(whoops almost forgot...cheap labor) right. Give regular working people a break and it's welfare,coddling,and indulgences. Give businesses tax breaks,subsidies, and corporate welfare(in this country to the tune of at least 100 billion a year) and "that's only fair". It must be time for your daily hypocrisy pill(you can get them cheap from the local Limbaugh Pharmacy)

That would be the power-hungry Democrats. I'm watching them having crying sessions and conniption fits today over their most recent loss. They're already crying that since they didn't get their way (thanks to the stupidity of the easliy fooled California voter of which power is just too important to be left to these serfs) they are going to demand recounts and take the election results to court.

I just can't wait to start whacking on Arnolf. When this inarticulate muscle head starts tripping over his own wang the cheap labor conservatives are going to be hilarious trying to stick up for this guy. What glee!!!!

More good arguements for the radical side. LOL

I dunno...I think you peaked with "Arnie = Hitler".

You gotta start with one good argument, and radicals haven't come up with any for 40 years, no reason to believe you will now.

You gotta be shittin me! Any true-blue native Californian like myself could see this one as soon as Arnold became a candidate. Besides the sheer "novelty" of the man, he is strong on politics which concern REAL Californians.

1. The state of California has the single largest economy of any state in the Union. http://commerce.ca.gov/state/ttca/ttca_homepage.jsp

a.) The billion loss incurred by Davis as a result of the Enron scandal is barely a ripple compared to the Gross State Income.

b.) Calls on this site to "boycott California" are drug induced blurtings of morons. The economy of California is the 5th largest in the WORLD, and it doesnt depend on any income from you left wing whiners (most of whom dont have a decent job anyway), or you sign-carrying, low income imbeciles who dont pay much in taxes.

2.) One look at Arnold, and one look at the seriously DAMAGED beotches who claimed that Arnold "groped" them tells the story. First of all, how did the cows even get that close to him? They were sidling up to him HOPING to get groped. Californians are not that naive, and the tired old "he's a pervert!" trick has gotten old, and it doesnt work anymore.

3.) Hispanics are the majority ethnic group in California. Unfortunately (for them), a vary large percentage of them are ILLEGAL ALIENS (fuck that "undocumented workers" crap). Hence, they CANNOT VOTE. The legal Hispanic citizens stand to lose if legislation is passed which allows the ILLEGAL invaders to more easily break the laws here.

4.) The tax base in California is skewed towards the poor and against the wealthy, therefore , causing a situation which might make them leave the state will ALWAYS be dropped. If you make less than K a year, you dont really get the picture. If you make K or more, you feel the pinch. If you make 0K or more, you REALLY feel it.. Those people making more than 0K a year are running businesses which employ lots of Californians. Screw them and you screw California.

BOTTOM LINE:

You left wing fuckwads dont know the first thing about responsibility. You have the Sherman Austins who irresponsibly create terrorist websites and end up in prison, and you have sign-carrying morons who could be burning that energy by working in a job, and you have a bunch of bull-dagger dyke bitches calling themselves "Code Pink" who dig up "groping" stories to win an election by low-blow politics. PATHETIC. Get a JOB, Get a LIFE or GET THE FUCK OUT.

Your online activities conform exactly with those of a practicing Jew. Don't think we haven't noticed.

"If you'd be so kind as to step into the oven, please, we will begin implementation of the Final Solution. Thank you."

KOBE SBM has claimed for an extended period that he is not Jewish. However, long term observation of his Internet activities indicates that he follows the same vacation patterns as do other Jews. Given his strong Zionism, hatred for Arabs and Muslims, and statements regarding Israel, combined with his observation of various holidays, I conclude that KOBE SBM is, in fact, Jewish. He is a Jewish hate monger.

Correcting, non-anarchist, it is KOBE SBM that has "volunteered" to put Arabs and Muslims into concentration camps. If you dispute this, I will post a screen shot of his call for genocide against Arabs and Muslims.

Stop calling the criminal a victim. Wait, the Nazis did that too, didn't they?

Why is it important to know that KOBE SBM is Jewish? It is important in order to remove the smear against African Americans that he has been pushing. SBM stands for "Superior Black Male." This is just one more case of a racist attempting to blame blacks for the crimes of non-black racists.

KOBE SBM is a racist pig from whatever angle you look at him - including his chosen online name.

He's either a liar or he's not. His religion has nothing to do with it.

That you're making a big deal of his religion smacks of anti-Semitism.

"This is just one more case of a racist attempting to blame blacks for the crimes of non-black racists."

Huh?

You keep playing that race card, you're gonna wear it out.

As I have said many times before, I am half black and half white (biracial). Neither of my parents is Jewish, and you know nothing of my "vacation patterns". What do any of your bullshit posts have to do with my Arnold comment? Dont you have anything RELEVANT to add to this thread? if not, then get the fuck off this site, and go and sell bumper stickers.

Hey, when's the boycott starting?

And who exactly will be boycotting?

Are you saying we won't be seeing any pasty-faced Iowans at Huntington Beach this summer?

Bummer.

The New York Post's Jonathan Foreman visited MoveOn.org's anti-Schwarzenegger rally Friday and offers a quote that pretty much sums it up:

"The most honest thing I heard came from film producer and Codepink activist Patricia Foulkrod. She admitted that Bill Clinton's sexual peccadilloes were as inexcusable as Arnold's. "The difference is that Clinton was so brilliant," she said. "If Arnold was a brilliant pol and had this thing about inappropriate behavior, we'd figure a way of getting around it. I think it's to our detriment to go on too much about the groping. But it's our way in. This is really about the GOP trying to take California in 2004 and our trying to stop it."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=106&e=1&u=/nypost/20031004/cm_nypost/sexlieshiddenagendas



Not that there was any real doubt, but Codepink is just another liberal front group. If people who agree with them treat women like dirt, it's OK because they hold the correct political positions. But if you have a (R) next to you name instead of a (D), then there's a whole different set of rules. Liberals are so two-faced, and they demonstrate it everytime they open their mouths.

Just remember this statement anytime a liberal says something about anything:

"The difference is that Clinton was so brilliant. If Arnold was a brilliant pol and had this thing about inappropriate behavior, WE'D FIGURE A WAY OF GETTING AROUND IT."

Look at it objectively Bush Ass-Mirer. George(Little Boy Emperor) Bush is a cronic liar(WMD's if they were so deadly and plentiful,as HE SAID, where are they?), with absolutely no business ethics(Harken,Arbusto) and an alcoholic and drug sniffing type character(where was he for that year and a half during his Texass Air National Guard duty? And why are his military records SEALED?). I dunno that doesn't seem like a man of honesty and character to me. Seems like a hack politician who couldn't get anywhere without Da-Da Bush.

Um, you don't have any substantiation for your allegations against the President.

So come back when you do, okay?

I guess we won't be hearing from you any more.

By Timothy Noah

SLATE.COM



Aug. 7 — Here’s a question Jay Leno forgot to ask Arnold Schwarzenegger when he announced his candidacy for governor of California on last night’s “Tonight Show”: “Will you renounce your support for Kurt Waldheim?”

A LITTLE REFRESHER course may be in order. Kurt Waldheim, a widely esteemed former secretary general of the United Nations, was running for president of Austria in March 1986 when it came to light that he had participated in Nazi atrocities during World War II. Waldheim had always maintained that he had served in the Wehrmacht only briefly and that after being wounded early in the war, he had returned to Vienna to attend law school.

In fact, Waldheim had resumed military service after recuperating from his injury and had been an intelligence officer in Germany’s Army Group E when it committed mass murder in the Kozara region of western Bosnia. (Waldheim’s name appears on the Wehrmacht’s “honor list” of those responsible for the atrocity.) In 1944, Waldheim had reviewed and approved a packet of anti-Semitic propaganda leaflets to be dropped behind Russian lines, one of which ended, “enough of the Jewish war, kill the Jews, come over.”



After the war, Waldheim was wanted for war crimes by the War Crimes Commission of the United Nations, the very organization he would later head. None of these revelations prevented Waldheim from winning the Austrian election, but after he became president, the U.S. Justice Department put Waldheim on its watch list denying entry to “any foreign national who assisted or otherwise participated in activities amounting to persecution during World War II.” The international community largely shunned Waldheim, and he didn’t run for re-election. (This information comes from the 1992 book Betrayal: The Untold Story of the Kurt Waldheim Investigation and Cover-Up, by Eli M. Rosenbaum and William Hoffer.)



WEDDING INVITE

Kurt Waldheim in a July 1986 file photo

One month after these revelations began to splash across the front pages of newspapers worldwide, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver exchanged wedding vows at the Kennedy compound in Hyannisport. Schwarzenegger, a native of Austria, had invited Waldheim to the wedding, which of course can’t be held against him because the invitations surely went out well before the war crimes story broke. (Schwarzenegger, who held dual citizenship in Austria and the United States, had also endorsed Waldheim.)

Waldheim didn’t attend, but he sent a gift — a statue of Arnold, in lederhosen, bearing off Maria, who wore a dirndl. Admiring it, Schwarzenegger offered a tribute that stunned the assemblage into shocked silence (this is reported in Arnold: The Unauthorized Biography, by Wendy Leigh):



My friends don’t want me to mention Kurt’s name, because of all the recent Nazi stuff and the U.N. controversy, but I love him and Maria does too, and so thank you, Kurt.

Schwarzenegger’s name remained on Waldheim’s campaign posters. After Waldheim was elected, Schwarzenegger paid him a visit and was photographed with him. According to the New York Post’s “Page Six” gossip column, Schwarzenegger was seen sitting beside Waldheim as recently as 1998, when the two attended the second inauguration of Waldheim’s successor as president, Thomas Klestil.





NO-WIN SITUATION

In 1988, Schwarzenegger was asked in a Playboy interview what he thought of Waldheim. He replied:

I hate to talk about it, because it’s a no-win situation. Without going into details, I can say that being half-Austrian and half-American, I don’t like the idea that these two countries that mean so much to me are in such a disagreement. Austria is a very important place for Americans, because it is a neutral country. With a little bit of good will, the problem will be straightened out. I think it’s well on the way.

Why on Earth didn’t Schwarzenegger take this opportunity to speak out against Waldheim? It surely isn’t because Schwarzenegger himself had any Nazi sympathies (though during the filming of the documentary Pumping Iron, he reportedly once made a foolish comment praising Hitler). Rather, Schwarzenegger was likely playing politics — to be more specific, Austrian politics and family politics. For years it was rumored that if Schwarzenegger didn’t run for governor of California, he would run for president of Austria. Because Austrians have long resented what they see as Waldheim’s pointless scapegoating, any firm denunciation would have ruled the latter possibility out. In addition, Schwarzenegger’s mother had for many years lived with Alfred Gerstl, a prominent Austrian politician who rose to the top post in the upper house of Austria’s parliament. Schwarzenegger reportedly addressed him as “Uncle.” (Schwarzenegger’s father, who died three decades ago, was a police official who had belonged to the Nazi party.) Terminator for governor?

The Angry Left speaks:

"Look at it objectively Bush Ass-Mirer. George(Little Boy Emperor) Bush is a cronic liar(WMD's if they were so deadly and plentiful,as HE SAID, where are they?), with absolutely no business ethics(Harken,Arbusto) and an alcoholic and drug sniffing type character(where was he for that year and a half during his Texass Air National Guard duty? And why are his military records SEALED?). I dunno that doesn't seem like a man of honesty and character to me. Seems like a hack politician who couldn't get anywhere without Da-Da Bush."

Like you 'anarchists' (aka bicycle messengers and disgruntled Starbucks employees) will ever have the might to affect anything.

No anarchist ever in history has ever affected anything politically. They are even less significant than the Amish.

The Amish around where I grew up make excellent peanut brittle and incredibly beautiful furniture and cabinetry.

They're far more valuable to society than anarchists.

Nonanarchist, I am seriously in awe of you. EVEN WHEN the Bush administration admits wrongdoing about anything, you manage to justify it ! Amazing. Never have I seen such ardent support of a corrupt leader...besides the Fuhrer, of course : )

Nonanarchist, I am seriously in awe of you. EVEN WHEN the Bush administration admits wrongdoing about anything, you manage to justify it ! Amazing. Never have I seen such ardent support of a corrupt leader...besides the Fuhrer, of course : )

What the heck are you talking about? We're talking about Arnie in this thread. Pay attention.

Oh, nice Nazi reference, by the way. Really drives your point home. Nothing like flogging a dead horse to show how empty your rhetoric is.

You do realize, don't you, that if there had never been Hitler, you'd have absolutely nothing to talk about?

I would have never been able to compare Saddam hussain to Hitler!!!!!!

I am such a hypocrite!!!

I only love drug addicts

Bush (cocaine, alcohol)

Limbaugh (oxycontin/heroin)

Draft dodgers (i'll make this list small)

Bush

Cheney

Rumsfeld

Limbaugh

Wolfowitz

(theres about 20 more)

People related to nazi or business

Schwarzenegger

Bush

FUCK THE USA

I LOVE IRAQ

thats why i am more concerned with their country rather than mine

Why should we spend the money here when theres no threat in Iraq (oil)

Let the americans lives turn to shit...

I am a hypocrite!!!!

money will by power/ and stupid people with money have the same rights as a educated fool.

money will by power/ and stupid people with money have the same rights as a educated fool.

The angry left moniker is kind of wrong. If you want to say the "angry far left" that would be a better choice of words. And angry yes I am. And wish more limp wristed lefties were more pissed off. I am angry that the cheap labor conservatives squander the nation's wealth by spending it on a bloated maniacal military that must justify itself with constant wars (check out Veteran's For Peace for an different viewpoint about defending our nation). I am angry that our nation's people are neglected while the cheap labor conservatives stuff handfuls of money into the pockets of the muti-national corporations. I am angry that cheap labor conservatives keep bringing up the Bible to justify their warped world view(such as Tom DeLay,who considers himself a Christian Zionist,and supports a "biblical worldview:) I am angry that the president sends troops all over the world,to die for their country, while back at home he cuts their benefits by 70 BILLION dollars over the next ten years. Damn right ANGRY.

krustyfuck is another liberal who has to get his talking points and marching orders from those of his comrades who claim to have all the answers.

cheap labor conservatives?

See:

http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/beattherightinthree.htm

"No anarchist ever in history has ever affected anything politically. They are even less significant than the Amish."

If this is true, then why do you spend your time harassing them?

As for political effect, your claim is bull shit. The Anarchists played an important role in fighting fascism in Spain. Anarchists played an important role in winning the five day work week and eight hour day.

I look forward to seeing you hanged, KOBE SBM.

Of course I go to other web-sites to expand the philosophical basis of my arguements. The fact that I use the term cheap labor conservatives doesn't hide the fact that no-one has rebutted it with good counter arguements and logic. All we keep hearing from the Bush Ass-mirers and nonanarchist is the same old hoary, hypocritical nonsense,the "trickle down" economics, the self responsibility while hiding behind LLC's and getting 100's of billions of tax payer money(where is all the self responsibility and do-it-yourself bullshit when the goverment HELPS YOU) in corporate welfare, the fact they hate taxes while we(the regular working folks) pay more and more for a bloated military that does NOTHING for us but enriches the Bush Crime Family(oop I think I got that one from liberal talk show host Mike Malloy) and their buddies at Halliburton and the Carlyle Group. From the cheap labor conservatives we get Rash Lowbrow and his popular brand of radio hypocrisy about the War on Drugs( which is another bottomless pit of tax money). I don't take "marching orders"( I love that term coming from the cheap labor conservatives who have more THINK TANKS spewing position papers than Bush has corporate butt holes he can stick his nose up in) from anybody. However when an arguement makes sense(unlike so much of what the cheap labor conservatives say) I will use it.