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Terror And The Smoking Gun? The Weapons of Mass Destruction?

by Gabrielle Reilly Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 10:28 AM

Terror… is this the smoking gun, the weapons of mass destruction? News from the Associated Press states that Kuwait has busted million of biochemical arms being smuggled FROM Iraq.

Terror And The Smoki...
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“KUWAIT CITY (AP)--Kuwaiti security authorities have foiled an attempt to smuggle million worth of chemical weapons and biological warheads from Iraq to an unnamed European country, a Kuwaiti newspaper said Wednesday.

The paper said the smugglers might have had accomplices inside Kuwait. It said Interior Minister Sheik Nawwaf Al Ahmed Al Sabah would hand over the smuggled weapons to an FBI agent at a news conference, but didn't say when.”

For rest of story with links to terror sources:

http://www.gabriellereillyweekly.com/full/terror.html

http://www.gabriellereillyweekly.com

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CIA is planting WMD "Evidence," but keeps screwing up

by mediawatcher Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 3:39 PM

Oh sure, we'll find those WMD's as soon as the CIA plants them...have they finally succeeded, and such

a coincidence considering the current CIA-security fiasco in the white house...

Oh, and don't trust news from a moderate who uses her body to sell information (re: Ms. Reilly)

Previously posted on the IMC:

Pentagon Whistleblower Reveals CIA- DoD Fiascos

by Mandrake Thursday October 02, 2003 06:16 AM

The Pentagon whistleblower, Nelda Rogers, is a 28-year veteran debriefer for the Defense Department.

She has become so concerned for her safety that she decided to tell the story about this latest

CIA-military fiasco in Iraq.

In a world exclusive, Al Martin Raw.com has published a news story about a Department of Defense whistleblower who

has revealed that a US covert operations team had planted “Weapons of Mass Destruction” (WMDs) in Iraq – then

“lost” them when the team was killed by so-called “friendly fire.”

The Pentagon whistleblower, Nelda Rogers, is a 28-year veteran debriefer for the Defense Department. She has

become so concerned for her safety that she decided to tell the story about this latest CIA-military fiasco in Iraq.

According to Al Martin Raw.com, “Ms.Rogers is number two in the chain of command within this DoD special

intelligence office. This is a ten-person debriefing unit within the central debriefing office for the Department of

Defense.

The information that is being leaked out is information “obtained while she was in Germany heading up the debriefing

of returning service personnel, involved in intelligence work in Iraq for the Department of Defense and/or the Central

Intelligence Agency.

“According to Ms. Rogers, there was a covert military operation that took place both preceding and during the hostilities

in Iraq,” reports Al Martin Raw.com, an online subscriber-based news/analysis service which provides “Political,

Economic and Financial Intelligence.”

Al Martin is a retired Lt. Commander (US Navy), the author of a memoir called “The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran

Contra Insider, " and he is considered one of America's foremost experts on corporate and government fraud.

Ms. Rogers reports that this particular covert operation team was manned by ex-military personnel and that “the unit

was paid through the Department of Agriculture in order to hide it, which is also very commonplace.”

According to Al Martin Raw.com, “the Ag Department has often been used as a paymaster on behalf of the CIA, DIA,

and NSA and others."

Accordng to the Al Martin Raw.com story, another aspect of Ms. Rogers' report concerns a covert operation which was

to locate the assets of Saddam Hussein and his family, including cash, gold bullion, jewelry and assorted valuable

antiquities.

The problem became evident when “the operation in Iraq involved 100 people, all of whom apparently are now dead,

having succumbed to so-called ‘friendly fire.’ The scope of this operation included the penetration of the Central Bank

of Iraq, other large commercial banks in Baghdad, the Iraqi National Museum and certain presidential palaces where

monies and bullion were secreted.”

“They identified about billion of cash in US dollars, another 0 million in Euros, in physical banknotes, and about

another 0 million in sundry foreign currencies ranging from Yen to British Pounds,” reports Al Martin.

“These people died, mostly in the same place in Baghdad, supposedly from a stray cruise missile or a combination of

missiles and bombs that went astray,” Martin continues. “There were supposedly 76 who died there and the other 24

died through a variety of 'friendly fire,' 'mistaken identity,' and some of them – their whereabouts are simply unknown.”

Ms. Rogers’ story sound like an updated 21st Century version of Treasure Island meets Ali Baba and the Bush Cabal

Thieves, writes Martin.

“This was a contingent of CIA/ DoD operatives, but it was really the CIA that bungled it, Ms. Rogers said. They were

relying on the CIA’s ability to organize an effort to seize these assets and to be able to extract these assets because the

CIA claimed it had resources on the ground within the Iraqi army and the Iraqi government who had been paid. That

turned out to be completely bogus. As usual.”

“CIA people were supposed to be handling it,” Martin continues. “They had a special ‘black (unmarked) aircraft to fly it

out. But none of that happened because the regular US Army showed up, stumbled onto it and everyone involved had

to scramble.

These new Iraqi “Asset Seizures” go directly to the New US Ruling Junta. The US Viceroy in Iraq Paul Bremer is

reportedly drinking Saddam Hussein’s 00 a bottle Napoleon era brandy, smoking his expensive Davidoff cigars

and he has even furnished his Baghdad office with Saddam’s Napolean era antique furniture

The Iraq Debacle Du Jour has evidently been extensively documented by the DIA debriefing teams with “extensive tape

recordings of interviews with the Iraqi returnees, the covert operatives (as well as their affidavits).”

Al Martin Raw.com has dubbed this “Operation Skim Iraq.”

(To interview Al Martin regarding this blockbuster story, please email to virtualagency@yahoo.com)

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60 Million?

by Who's On First? Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 4:04 PM

I don't think 500 Tons of SCARY Weapons of Mass Destruction would go for the Paltry sum of 60 Million.

Notice they showed up at the Kuwatii Border - LONG after the War began. It is much safer to bring them in to the Border than through a War Zone where the Planting Team might get shot up - again.

Gosh I wonder if Kuwait is beholden to the Bush Fambly?

Did I mention Scary Scary Weapons? Ooooh! Booga, booga!

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CIA planted them?

by nonanarchist Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 8:53 PM

Sure...they waited so long it's becoming an embarassment.

Do you even listen to the stuff coming out of your head?

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well

by limburger Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 8:56 AM

tell us where they are daveman.

tell us, enquiring minds want to know.

What about the Polish missles?

Oh sorry about that.......

get a psych 101 dictionary...

look in mirror....

open context....

look for "delusions of grandeur"

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Deny This

by Brandon T. Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 3:51 PM

I stand in utter disbelief as Bush Admirer says:

>>How soon they forget that we're coming off eight long years of the worst President in US History, the worst Cabinet appointments in US History, the fewest achievements of any administration in history; the most corruption of any administration in US History, etc.

Bush is such an upgrade. It's amazing that these lefties are able to turn a blind eye to Clinton and criticize Bush with a straight face.
You have got to be kidding me-what has the Bush admin. accomplished-besides allowing the most heinous "attack" on the American public, going into Iraq ONLY to oust Saddam and find WMD:

No Saddam and no WMD = Failure-why can't you people understand that ?!

Did they "accomplish" allowing the most heinous "attack" on the American public, and then not assign any blame ? Yup.

Will you refute the FACT that poverty is at an all-time high ?

Will you deny that hundreds of thousands of people are losing their jobs ?



Or the FACT that the amount of people without healthcare has dropped EVEN MORE this year ?

Will you refute the fact that We have not yet found Osama bin Laden ?

Can you refute that the government is ASKING THE UN for 86 billion dollars in aid ?

And as far as Clinton goes, he was not the most mORAL man (that was a joke-oral, see?) but no one ever questioned the man's intelligence. George Bush in not only his public speaking, but conversation in general is a bumbling idiot-the man literally "bumbles."

And CORRUPTION ??

Yeah, I guess leaks concerning covert agents in the CIA possibly being perpetrated by people in the Bush Admin doesn't count, right ?

I'm not cracking on republicans, only people who'll try to deny the allegations listed above. Outside of saying that Shrub is a "bumbling idiot", I haven't said anything that can be debated. Have fun telling me I'm lying.

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Brandon T.

by nonanarchist Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 5:51 PM

You lost ANY credibility you may have had when you wrote:

"... allowing the most heinous "attack" on the American public..."

With that statement, you revealed your membership in the Tinfoil Hat Brigade, and effectively removed yourself from further consideration.

Nice knowin' ya. Watch out for the black helicopters!

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OneEyedMan

by KPC Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 5:56 PM

...yeah...you're an expert on tinfoil hats, huh Fido?

...like that Bekka Valley lie you were spreading? Didn't you zero in on them with the help of your hat?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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KPC=AngryLeftPissBoy

by davis4gov Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:00 PM

Don't tell me you stupid enough to believe the US attacked it own citizens on 9/11. The reason you don't need to tell me is because I already know you're stupid enough to believe it.

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Ordo grandulus seclorum.

by ISIS Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:05 PM

>Nonanarchist. You NEVER have ANY credibility and still here.

Ordo Grandulus Seclorum.

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I know aluninum foil hats required

by reader Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:08 PM



Astute observers of history are aware that for every notable event there will usually be at least one ,often several wild conspiracy theories which spring up around it. "The CIA killed Hendrix" " The Pope had John Lennon murdered ", "Hitler was half Werewolf", "Space aliens replaced Nixon with a clone" etc,etc. The bigger the event, the more ridiculous and more numerous are the fanciful rantings which circulate in relation to it.

So its hardly surprising that the events of Sept 11 2001 have spawned their fair share of these ludicrous fairy tales. And as always, there is - sadly - a small but gullible percentage of the population eager to lap up these tall tales, regardless of facts or rational analysis.

One of the wilder stories circulating about Sept 11, and one that has attracted something of a cult following amongst conspiracy buffs is that it was carried out by 19 fanatical Arab hijackers, masterminded by an evil genius named Osama bin Laden, with no apparent motivation other than that they "hate our freedoms."

Never a group of people to be bothered by facts, the perpetrators of this cartoon fantasy have constructed an elaborately woven web of delusions and unsubstantiated hearsay in order to promote this garbage across the internet and the media to the extent that a number of otherwise rational people have actually fallen under its spell.

Normally I don't even bother debunking this kind of junk, but the effect that this paranoid myth is beginning to have requires a little rational analysis, in order to consign it to the same rubbish bin as all such silly conspiracy theories.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/02/45544.shtml
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Ordo Grandulus Seclorum

by L. Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:09 PM

Credat Judaeus Apella

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Chicken Boy and ISIS

by nonanarchist Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:11 PM

The Bekaa Valley WMD story is a lie?

Prove it.

Oh, that's right...you can't prove a negative, can you?

A negative such as "Iraq has no WMD"...

Now you will spout obscenities and non-sequitturs, and think you accomplished something.

ISIS: Don't you have to go help Wonder Woman? The Invisible Plane needs a wax job.

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OneEyedMan

by KPC Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:16 PM

Fido: "The Bekaa Valley WMD story is a lie? Prove it. "

OK

Fido posted the claim that WMD's are hidden in the Bekka Valley.

Everything Fido says or posts is a lie.

Therefore: the Bekka Valley claim is a lie.



Simple, concise, accurate. I've seen nothing to convince me otherwise.



Next liar, please.....

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Next liar, please.....

by KPC Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:17 PM

Never mind. I'll just go look in the mirror.

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That's funny, reader.

by nonanarchist Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:18 PM

You sounded normal for a minute there.

Never mind the fact that Bin Laden ADMITTED it. No, that tape was obviously made in a Hollywood back lot.

Oh, by the way: the funniest bit was when you tried to prove your post on indymedia with another post on indymedia.

In other words, it's true because you SAY it's true.

You'll forgive me if I don't take your word for it.

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OneEyedMan

by KPC Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:19 PM

...another fine example of devasting Republican wit...

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KPC is a fantastic guy.

by nonanarchist Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:20 PM

He's handsome, witty, intelligent, successful, and of unimpeachable character.

Too bad it's all a lie.

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KPC

by j Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:23 PM

Your crap is old. We can get your spew on the major media outlets. If you're not here to write whacko liberal ramblings or conspiracy theories, then you need to run along. If you are intent on sticking around, then I'll have to use my intials and start posting here. My name is Kevin Patrick Camejo. I believe someone as simpleminded as you can even understand this.

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WOW, Dodging at it's FINEST

by Brandon T. Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:27 PM

I admire nonanarchist et. al at their EXPERT dodging tactics. Notice that you attacked my person, and not the issues I brought up. Whether or not I believe 9/11 was perpetrated by....Bishop Tutu doesn't change the fact that you didn't refute one of my statements. So they must be true, right ?

You guys are true assholes.

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OneEyedMan

by KPC Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:27 PM

BushBlower: "And I don't see any evidence of corruption in the Bush Administration."

Of course it is hard to see with your head up your ass.

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Credat Judaeus Apella

by ISIS Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:28 PM

Innotrumus incibia luctamus. Ashtarte in dominium,

sea.

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Credat Judaeus Apella

by ISIS Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:29 PM

Innotrumus incibia luctamus. Ashtarte in dominium,

sea.

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Thanks, Brandon.

by nonanarchist Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:35 PM

We aim to please!

But don't get all full of yourself just yet. I wasn't aware that I was supposed to drop everything and get out all my references just because you post something.

If you had said, "The sun rises in the west", I would have responded in much the same way.

Some stuff is just too ridiculous to even bother refuting.

It's all been done before, anyway. What I don't understand is why anyone has to go out of their way to believe that nonsense, anyway. It sure doen't come intuitively; you actually have to WANT to believe it before you believe it.

You have proven nothing. Therefore I feel no need to refute your nothing.

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Denial at It's FINEST

by Brandon T. Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:44 PM

Thank you. And I aim to show everyone how brainwashed you are:

>>You have proven nothing. Therefore I feel no need to refute your nothing
So we did find WMD ?

SO poverty isn't at the highest it's been ?

So we haven't lost hundreds of 1000's of Jobs ?

So healthcare coverage hasn't gone down for the 2nd consecutive year ?

So we DO have Bin Laden ?

Bush DIDN'T ask for 86 billion?

So we DO have Saddam ?

No soldiers are dying ?

There you have it folks, the Truth-as told by republicans.

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Good ol' Brandon...

by nonanarchist Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:46 PM

...blindly spouting the party line.

And he caps it off with a real zinger:

If you don't agree with me, you're obviously BRAINWASHED!"

Whatever, dude.

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Still NOT addressing the Questions I wrote, are we ?

by Brandon T. Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 6:55 PM

I've reduced you to:

"Whatever, Dude"

Thanks, my day's done. you can't refute the FACTS !

I don't do this to argue, or because I think I'm smarter than you-I do it because I truly pity you. You can't even address the FACTS ! FACTS ! FACTS !

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OneEyedMan

by KPC Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 7:01 PM

He's Republican...all they have is LIES LIES LIES!

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wh

by at Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 7:07 PM

How 'bout this.

What you have to say is so irrelevant it's not worth answering. But, believe what you want. You libs do anyway. Just look at KPC. After eight years of defending Clinton he can still call other people liars.

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Brandon

by nonanarchist Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 7:07 PM

You just don't get it, do you?

Just because I don't have the time to go through your post doen't make them "facts" by default.

It don't work that way.

You can keep your pity; it's neither needed nor wanted.

By the way: You sound like a little kid going "Neener neener! I win! I WIN!"

And Chicken Boy?

Pot, meet kettle.

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OneEyedMan

by KPC Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 7:15 PM

SomeDickHead: "Just look at KPC. After eight years of defending Clinton he can still call other people liars."

*Sigh*....the new Republican Mantra - "when in doubt, whip the LIE out!"

...sorry, meatwhistle....but I never defended Clinton.

Now, back to that liar Schwartzengoosestepper.....you'd have to be deluded to swallow his lies....

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Don't have time to read my post, but You can insult me, right ?

by Brandon T. Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 7:15 PM

>>You just don't get it, do you?

Just because I don't have the time to go through your post doen't make them "facts" by default
>>But don't get all full of yourself just yet. I wasn't aware that I was supposed to drop everything and get out all my references just because you post something.
So now that you don't have an answer, you didn't even read my post, right ?

But you DID read it !

So if you read it, and you don't like it, you never read it-better than the answer I expected.







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??

by ?? Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 7:19 PM

Brandon,

Whatever. You believe what you want. Just keep posting here. It's entertaining. Though you got stiff competition when it comes to left-wing liars. KPC is one of the best liars around. He told us last week there was no way Arnold will win the governorship. Did he lie......again? We'll soon see.

KPC,

Didn't defened Clinton, huh? Did you call for his impeachment and conviction?

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Okay: Do one thing, And I'm Gone !

by Brandon T. Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 7:25 PM

>>You believe what you want. Just keep posting here. It's entertaining. Though you got stiff competition when it comes to left-wing liars
I will shut up if you'll do ONE THING for me, okay ? Tell me that ONE of these statements is true, and tell me WHY-any statement will do.

So we did find WMD ?

SO poverty isn't at the highest it's been ?

So we haven't lost hundreds of 1000's of Jobs ?

So healthcare coverage hasn't gone down for the 2nd consecutive year ?

So we DO have Bin Laden ?

Bush DIDN'T ask for 86 billion?

So we DO have Saddam ?

No soldiers are dying ?

Thanks !



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No, Thanx

by skjdfg Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 7:28 PM

You're boring.

Bye.

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OneEyedMan

by KPC Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 7:32 PM

check and mate!

buh-bye Consonant Boy!

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Just Like I Thought

by Brandon T. Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 7:34 PM

Okay, so by talking about important issues in the US, I am being BORING. Shows what you think of our country, soldiers, and citizens.

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check and mate!

by slkdjf Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 7:35 PM

Hey dumbass, he asked BA, not me. I'm not going to answer him cause I don't care to. Believe it or not, truth is not decided here on LA-IMC. There is a real world out there. Open a frickin window!

Now, entertain me. That's why you're here. You're my bitch.

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BT

by lskfjk Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 7:36 PM

No. Show what I think of liberals. Which isn't much cause there ain't much there of any substance.

Now, back to the EV. Get to work.

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OneEyedMan

by KPC Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 7:38 PM

Check and mate!



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OneEyedMan

by KPC Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 7:40 PM

Hi. I've got to get in the last word. It makes me fell like I've actually accomplished something, which I haven't, but it makes me feel better notheless.

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OneEyedMan

by KPC Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 9:34 PM

Check.......

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OneEyedMan

by KPC Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 9:36 PM

.....mate!

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Way to go, Chicken Boy! You got the last word in!

by nonanarchist Thursday, Oct. 09, 2003 at 7:44 AM

Oops...sorry.

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Who is behind Gabrielle Reilly?

by YelloCat Friday, Oct. 10, 2003 at 10:59 PM

Check out "The Model, her Shadow, the Payload, and the IMC: A grey propaganda operation on the Indymedia network" at: http://victoria.indymedia.org#130

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Notice the silence of the neocon..

by Ralph Saturday, Oct. 11, 2003 at 4:41 AM

... when facing the REAL issues.

Well done, Brandon T.

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