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Rush Limbaugh RESIGNS for racist commentary.

by systemfailure Thursday, Oct. 02, 2003 at 11:05 PM

Well, another right wing shitbag puts his foot in his mouth and screams "THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT"....But apparently Rush couldnt convince anyone with his rhetoric and QUIT. Maybe Rush and Ann Coulter should team up for an old time Sunday right wing comedy hour, called it "Racist Fatty and Extremist Skinny"

NEW YORK - Conservative commentator Rush Limbaugh resigned from ESPN on Wednesday night, three days after saying Philadelphia Eagles (news) quarterback Donovan McNabb is overrated because the media wanted to see a black quarterback succeed.

Earlier Wednesday, Democratic presidential candidates Wesley Clark, Howard Dean and Rev. Al Sharpton called for the cable sports network to fire Limbaugh.


"My comments this past Sunday were directed at the media and were not racially motivated," Limbaugh said in a statement Wednesday night. "I offered an opinion. This opinion has caused discomfort to the crew, which I regret.


"I love `NFL Sunday Countdown' and do not want to be a distraction to the great work done by all who work on it.

"Therefore, I have decided to resign. I appreciate the opportunity to be a part of the show and wish all the best to those who make it happen."


George Bodenheimer, president of ESPN and ABC Sports, accepted the resignation.

"We regret the circumstances surrounding this," he said in a statement. "We believe that he took the appropriate action to resolve this matter expeditiously."

McNabb had said earlier Wednesday that he didn't mind criticism of his performance. He was upset that Limbaugh made his race an issue and said it was too late for an apology.

"It's somewhat shocking to hear that on national TV from him," McNabb said. "It's not something that I can sit here and say won't bother me."

Limbaugh insisted earlier Wednesday he had "no racist intent whatsoever." In fact, he said he must have been right; otherwise, the comments would not have sparked such outrage.

Before McNabb led the Eagles to a 23-13 victory over the Buffalo Bills on Sunday, Limbaugh said on ESPN's pregame show that he didn't think McNabb was as good as perceived from the start.

"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well," Limbaugh said on "Sunday NFL Countdown."

"There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team," he said.

Limbaugh did not back down during his syndicated radio talk show Wednesday.

"All this has become the tempest that it is because I must have been right about something," Limbaugh said. "If I wasn't right, there wouldn't be this cacophony of outrage that has sprung up in the sports writer community."

The NFL disclaimed any responsibility from Limbaugh's remarks.

"ESPN knew what it was getting when they hired Rush Limbaugh," league vice president Joe Browne said. "ESPN selects its on-air talent, not the NFL."

 Sharpton scheduled a news conference Thursday morning in front of ABC headquarters in New York. He said he would call for ESPN to fire Limbaugh and would call for a national boycott of the network this weekend if he isn't. ABC and ESPN are corporate cousins, both owned by Walt Disney Co.

"I'm going to call for ESPN to terminate Rush Limbaugh as we've seen other networks terminate people for racist remarks in the past," Sharpton said Wednesday night. "I'm shocked that we're at Wednesday and we have not seen an apology from Mr. Limbaugh. We cannot sit back in silence. That would be consent and we would have lost self-respect."

Chris Berman, who anchors the ESPN show, said he did not believe Limbaugh's tone or intent was malicious.

"As cut and dry as it seems in print, I didn't think so when it went by my ears," he said. "I probably should have looked to soften it. We're sorry we upset a guy who got off to a rough start."

McNabb said someone on the show should have taken on Limbaugh. Among the other panelists are former players Michael Irvin and Tom Jackson, both of whom are black.

"I'm not pointing at anyone but someone should have said it," McNabb said of the panelists, who also include former quarterback Steve Young . "I wouldn't have cared if it was the cameraman."

Limbaugh was scheduled to be in Philadelphia on Thursday to speak at a broadcast convention. McNabb said he wouldn't be welcome at the Eagles' practice.

"I really don't want to see him," McNabb said. "You can say you're sorry all you want, it doesn't matter. It's been said."

Clark, a retired Army general, called the remarks "hateful and ignorant speech." And Dean, a former Vermont governor, followed up with his own assessment — "absurd and offensive."

The NAACP also condemned Limbaugh's remarks, calling them "bigoted and ignorant," and called for the network to fire Limbaugh or at least provide an opposing point of view on the show.

"It is appalling that ESPN has to go to this extent to try to increase viewership," NAACP President Kweisi Mfume said in a statement.

McNabb, who was runner-up for the league MVP award in 2000 and has led the Eagles to two straight NFC championship games, said he has no quarrel with Limbaugh's comment on his ability.

"I know I played badly the first two games," he said.

McNabb got off to the worst start of his career this season and was the NFL's lowest-rated starting quarterback after losses to Tampa Bay and New England. Still, the Eagles are 36-22 in games he has started, including 4-3 in the playoffs.

Limbaugh on Wednesday reiterated that he doesn't think McNabb is a bad player, just that he isn't as good as some media members think he is.

"This is such a mountain out of a molehill," he said. "There's no racism here, there's no racist intent whatsoever."

Limbaugh is the radio host of the politically focused "Rush Limbaugh Show," which is syndicated in more than 650 markets worldwide.

Limbaugh helped increase the ratings for "Sunday NFL Countdown." ESPN spokesman Dave Nagle said ratings are up 10 percent overall. Sunday's show drew its biggest audience in the regular season since 1996.

Seven black quarterbacks started games last weekend. Two other blacks who regularly start, Daunte Culpepper of Minnesota and Michael Vick of Atlanta, were out with injuries.

Asked about Limbaugh's comments, Eagles defensive end N.D. Kalu said: "He speaks well, he's well-read, but he's an idiot."





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SO LONG FATBOY

by query Thursday, Oct. 02, 2003 at 11:06 PM

better luck next time.
scum.
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Don't know what you're celebrating about for lefty.

by Nate Friday, Oct. 03, 2003 at 2:23 AM

Rush was right. Donovan McNabb IS overrated. And the (liberal) media did hype him. Why is that so difficult for you lefty's to swallow? I doubt the Eagles even make the playoffs this year.

Rush isn't going anywhere. He'll still be on the radio whipping liberals into a tizzy, day in and day out.

Don't have another aneurysmatic attack though.
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RL

by comment Friday, Oct. 03, 2003 at 2:26 AM

If a black sports commentator had made the same comments, no one would have thought anything of it.
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So What

by krankyman Friday, Oct. 03, 2003 at 5:27 AM

Rash Blowhard will just go back to radio and pander to the redneck trailer trash types who listen to his nonsensical ravings and think Rash is one of them even though this lunatic makes an estimated 20 million dollars a year. Most of his listeners wouldn't even be able to get past the doorman to meet him wherever he hangs his racist hat.
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NFL

by David Friday, Oct. 03, 2003 at 6:17 AM

I agree with the person who said that if a black commentator had said the same thing it wouldn't even be a story. Given that it was Rush and there are those who are looking for anything of which to accuse him, it was ill-advised on his part to say it, but it is nevertheless true.

There's no doubt that the NFL is race conscience, and they desperately want a black quarterback to join the names of the elite quarterbacks, even to the point of pushing McNabb. They need to just sit back and not worry about it. When it happens it's gonna happen anyway based upon the individual talent of the player.

Proof of this "race" conscienceness in the NFL is the rule they have regarding hiring head coaches. Jesse Jackson pushed them into this one. If a team wishes to hire a new head coarch, the league requires that they interview a black for the job. How stupid is that? Any team who would not interview and hire who they believe to be the most qualified to coach the team regardless of their race would be a bunch of idiots. If the most qualified were all black, and they didn't interview a single person of another race, who cares?

So now, if Jerry Jones wants to hire Bill Parcells, he's gonna call in Bill, say "Bill, you're my man, but league policy says I got to interview a black coach. So what I'm going to do is call in a couple of blacks to interview and another coach or two, go through the motions, and in the meantime your people and my people can be working out the details of your contract."

So it's all a bunch of smoke and mirrors to make it look good to the public.

On the football field, the player is either doing his job or he isn't. Race has nothing to do with it and the players know that. So do the REAL fans. Same with coaches. You're either winning or you're not, it doesn't matter what color you are.

We were already seeing the league during the summer pushing Vick from Atlanta hard this year. The guy's only in his second year, that's a lot of pressure. Granted he's talented, but he isn't going to do the stuff he did at Virginia Tech running the ball. This is the NFL. He takes off running in the NFL and one of those linebackers is eventually going to ......clock.......his......ass! He does that 2 or 3 times and he won't be playing anymore. He's got to get better at reading defenses and running the team, the things every new QB has to learn coming into the league. But they're going to promote him for something he isn't yet, and may or may not ever become, just because they have a target market in mind for which they want to appeal.
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Sports and Race

by Cherokee Friday, Oct. 03, 2003 at 7:32 AM

What got rush FIRED - and he was fired regardless of what spin is put on it - is his comment about McNabb's being a BLACK Quarterback not about McNabb's Performance as a Quarterback.

It was a racist comment and betrays Scumbaugh's predilection for judging people by the color of their skin and not their performance.

There can be no doubt the Scumbaugh is a racist Pig (as well as a congenital liar).
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Cherokee the LIAR

by Apache Friday, Oct. 03, 2003 at 9:45 AM

He resigned. He wasn't fired. So that's a LIE (congenital liar) right off the bat. But I would expect nothing less from left-wing racist scum like Cherokee.

And Limbaugh's comments were on how the LEAGUE and the MEDIA treats black QB's, not what he thought about black QB's.

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The Little Dictator

by Ffutal Friday, Oct. 03, 2003 at 10:43 AM

Democratic presidential candidate Wesley Clark, a retired Army general, has been talking up something he calls "a new kind of patriotism," an essential element of which is free expression. His Web site has a transcript of his Sept. 17 announcement speech, which includes this passage (capitals in original):

"WHY are so many here in America hesitant to speak out and ask questions? (Crowd answers "BUSH"; Clark nods his head)"

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/6907650.htm

http://www.clark04.com/speeches/001/

This past weekend, Rush Limbaugh, who'd been moonlighting as pregame football commentator for ESPN, remarked that, as the Associated Press puts it, "the media wanted Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb to succeed because he is black." This was deemed "racially insensitive" by those who've anointed themselves authorities on racial sensitivity, and Limbaugh has resigned. "I love NFL Sunday Countdown and do not want to be a distraction to the great work done by all who work on it," ESPN.com quotes him as saying.

Before Limbaugh quit, the AP reports, Wesley Clark weighed in:

"In the letter to ESPN, Clark said, "There can be no excuse for such statements. Mr. Limbaugh has the right to say whatever he wants, but ABC and ESPN have no obligation to sponsor such hateful and ignorant speech. Mr. Limbaugh should be fired immediately."

http://msn.espn.go.com/gen/news/2003/1001/1628537.html

Am I alone in finding it a little creepy that a general who wants to be president would demand that a private company suppress speech?

Uday Hussein used to torture members of Iraq's soccer team when they lost games, and Kim Jong Il once kidnapped a South Korean film director and held him prisoner for years, forcing him to produce propaganda for Pyongyang. While these crimes were brutal and horrifying, there's also something comical about dictators espousing high-flown ideologies--"Juche," "Arab socialism"--when what they're really interested in is sports and movies.

Now we have Wesley Clark pontificating about the "new patriotism" and then deciding that one of the most pressing issues facing America is the need to ensure sensitive football commentary. Of course, the comparison goes only so far. American democracy is secure, and even if by some chance Clark becomes president, he won't be able to terrorize the entertainment and sports industries into complying with his will. So while he is as ridiculous as a totalitarian dictator, he is nowhere near as fearsome. He's more like Charlie Chaplin's "Little Dictator" or Saddam Hussein in "South Park" than the real thing.
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Hail to the Redskins

by Ffutal Friday, Oct. 03, 2003 at 11:23 AM

"The Washington Redskins football franchise can keep its trademark name and logo because a group of activists did not provide enough evidence that the team's moniker was disparaging to Native Americans, a judge ruled yesterday," the Washington Post reports:

"U .S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly threw out a federal board's 1999 decision to cancel six highly lucrative Redskins trademarks. She said she was not opining on whether the word "redskin" was insulting or not but concluded that the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office's board had relied upon partial, dated and irrelevant evidence submitted by the activists.

The judge also said Native Americans had little legal grounds to complain because they waited 25 years after the first Redskins trademark was registered to formally object to the team's name and images."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28449-2003Oct1.html

The Redskins will be in Philadelphia this Sunday, facing the Eagles and quarterback Donovan McNabb. Strangely, there's been no comment from the Wesley Clark campaign.
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Rush to Judgment

by Ffutal Saturday, Oct. 04, 2003 at 9:28 AM

Bill Maher isn't exactly my cup of tea, but his defense of Rush Limbaugh on his personal blog caught my attention:

"Rush Limbaugh had to resign from his ESPN NFL broadcasting job for suggesting his fellow sportscasters overrated Philadelphia quarterback Donovan McNabb because they wanted to see a black quarterback succeed. . . .

But, this time, Rush Limbaugh isn't the big, fat idiot. He wasn't implying that we'd all be better off if society were segregated, as Trent Lott did, or that blacks don't possess the "necesseties" [sic] to be baseball managers, as Al Campanis did. He was simply suggesting that some sportscasters, recognizing a historic glass ceiling for African-American quarterbacks, may have been practicing a kind of "accolades affirmative action."

But, as we all know, in this country, when anybody makes anyone uncomfortable ever, they must lose their job. Sports Center is next."

http://www.safesearching.com/billmaher/blog/archives/000098.html

This is interesting in light of Maher's own experience hosting the now-defunct ABC-TV show "Politically Incorrect." On Sept. 17, 2001, guest Dinesh D'Souza, a conservative think-tanker, said he disagreed with President Bush's characterizations of the previous week's mass murderers as "cowards." Actually, D'Souza said, they were "warriors." To which Maher replied:

"We have been the cowards lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That's cowardly. Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it's not cowardly."

This prompted complaints to advertisers on the show, including FedEx and Sears, which decided to pull the ads. ABC subsequently canceled "Politically Incorrect," and Maher now hosts a program called "Real Time w/Bill Maher" on HBO.

The Maher remark turned into a political kerfuffle when, nine days later, a reporter asked Ari Fleischer, then the White House press secretary, about it. In the course of answering, Fleischer said that people "need to watch what they say, watch what they do." This struck me simply as a call for people to exercise good manners and circumspection, but others were outraged. Slate's Timothy Noah, for example, wrote: "Although no one questioned Fleischer's right to disapprove publicly of Maher's remark, many observed that he phrased it in an unnecessarily thuggish fashion that smacked of censorship."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010926-5.html#billmaher-comments

http://slate.msn.com/id/1008366/

Fleischer's remarks did lend themselves to multiple interpretations, and two days later he issued a clarification of sorts: "I understand, of course, in all times, it's everybody's right to say things, no matter how wrong they can be." But the idea of Fleischer as censor or McCarthyite has become something of an urban legend; just the other day a left-leaning friend cited it in an e-mail to me as an example of the administration questioning its critics' patriotism.

There was no ambiguity at all, however, to the demands by some presidential candidates, including Wesley Clark, for ESPN to fire Rush Limbaugh over his purportedly insensitive remarks over the weekend. Why are the defenders of free speech not standing up for Limbaugh's right to speak his mind, even if what he has to say is offensive?

As for Maher, it seems clear in retrospect that the problem with his remarks was not so much what he said as when he said it. Indeed, although it seems silly to argue that slashing stewardesses' throats and murdering thousands of defenseless civilians is anything but cowardly, he did have a point about the fecklessness with which America waged war before Sept. 11. But as comedian (and erstwhile NFL announcer on ABC) Dennis Miller observes in an interview with The American Enterprise, "it's dangerous to try to look witty about something in the wake of the biggest tragedy in the history of this country":

"I couldn't put together a sentence for two weeks, much less something pithy. It's not a good idea to go on and right away try to make some "wise" remark when audiences aren't in a "wise" mood. The whole country was devastated."

http://taemag.org/issues/articleID.17708/article_detail.asp

It's entirely understandable that Americans would have been sensitive in the wake of such an atrocity, and it's heartening that, by and large, we no longer seem to be. Likewise, it's understandable that after the atrocities of slavery and Jim Crow, black Americans would be sensitive about suggestions that they are anything less than equal. The saddest aspect of the Limbaugh altercation, though, is it underscores how raw racial feelings remain in America, four decades after the civil rights movement won the day.
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OneEyedMan

by KPC Saturday, Oct. 04, 2003 at 10:24 AM

yes, let's all "rush" to the defense of lying hypocritical junkies...
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Unbelievable, I agree with BA

by Ralph Saturday, Oct. 04, 2003 at 9:14 PM

regarding Limbaugh working for ESPN.

Somewhere it is comical to see an overweight, drug-addicted man in his fifties with no sport credentials passing as an ESPN commentator.
He would be more credible doing ads for some rehab program, Jenny Craig or anti-flatulence pills.



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interesting

by hobart Saturday, Oct. 04, 2003 at 11:03 PM

the right wing runs to protect thier man

who is racist

is addicted to oxycontin

and avoided the draft to go to Vietnam

Way to pick your heros

now i see why Bush is so popular with the
conservatives

ROFL.
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Black Quarterbacks Have Already Done Well

by krankyman Sunday, Oct. 05, 2003 at 5:43 AM

Once again totally wrong cheap labor right. Black quarterbacks have already proven themselves. Remember Doug Williams, a Superbowl MVP, Michael Vick probably the most exciting quarterback in the league now, Randall Cunningham,a former regular season MVP, and if you think they are coddling Kordell Stewart in Chicago,trust me they are not. And if you know ANYTHING about sports, you should know that the Philly sports media and fans hate just about every player that has ever played there. They used to boo Mike Schmidt, hall of famer, when he played there. Philadelphia is a very racist city. So Rash was waaaayyyy off base, as usual, for someone who can only talk to other dotto-heads on his bullshit radio show.
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Rush the pill freak

by Wavemaster Sunday, Oct. 05, 2003 at 6:55 AM

Rush is the one that is overated. He is just a fat ass winbag who runs his mouth spinning imperalist propaganda for the corupt CEO billionaires who happen to own the media. His job is to distract joe sixpack into thinking that i'ts the poor people and peace activists who are bad and to blame for the mess were in.
As far as his comments about Donavan McNab its pretty clear that the drugs have gone to his head. How can anyone defend these stupid comments? Any football fan knows that McNab is a great quaterback and to suggest that he's overated cause he's black is totaly out of left field. The hypocritical right wing who try and defened Rush, Arnold and Bill Bennate are just showing their true colors.
Dude Where's My Country?
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Who is suprised?

by RUSH LIMBAUGH IS DUMB Monday, Oct. 06, 2003 at 3:21 PM
rushlimbaugh@rushlimbaugh.com

wow, not really.

He has long been an idiot trying to pass himself off as intelligent. No one who makes a racist comment like that (indicating someone's skin color is getting him a break) should be on the air. The only people who listen to him, think like him thats what is scary. Those who defend him now, obviously, dont see they are dragging themselves down. Anyone who says they support Rush or tries to defend his idiocy is themselves a moron. There is no place for it.

Those of you who like him, listen, that HORSE is wounded badly and is going to be put down, you shouldnt cry about it. Funny thing is he wants everyone to think he is intelligent but yet every time he opens his mouth he reminds us all how stupid he really is......................

Now watch all his sponsers on his show, and his website abandon his stupid fat head.
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double standard...

by GpzKat Monday, Oct. 06, 2003 at 3:36 PM

Didn't the left defend Mapplethorpe's right to 'speech'. a few years back? Whatever you think of Rush, and I'm no fan, what scares me more is the witchhunt mentality that pervades our culture, for people with 'incorrect' opinions. He's a windbag, sure, but he should be a free windbag. I used to respect the left's stand on these issues, but those days are gone. Now, listening to KPFK in LA, for instance, all I hear are a bunch of like minds blowing smoke up each others. Progressive, liberal, whatever - it just seems to be groupthink to me and the stifling of discourse.
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The Left's view on Free Speech:

by nonanarchist Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 12:27 AM

"Free speech for me but not for thee."
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duh

by jokey smurf Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 1:17 AM

If intelligence is abusing oxycontin,
I wanna be dumb.

If patriotism means avoiding the draft for Vietnam,
I dont wanna be patriotic.

If free speech means rating a football player on their race,
I'll just keep my views to myself.

OH AND BUSH ADMIRER

I wonder how much money the NFL and ESPN make in a year....
If Rush make 10% of that he would be making.......

Looks like Bush admirer is right again
and THE NFL AND ESPN ARE WRONG!!!!
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hypogene

by phot Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 1:54 AM

Donovan McNabb suxsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!
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looks like a vast left wing conspiracy

by lol Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 1:57 AM

to get rid of Rush limberburger.
what a joke.
dream on republicans
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All a joke

by no one Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 11:40 AM

To be quite honest..I hate Rush Limbaugh I think he's
an idiot and standing up for him makes me sick. I do however think that the comment he made
was only taken so harshly because it contained the
word black. The problem isn't with Rush it's with this
country. We're all so quick to jump on anyone that mentions a race other than their own. If a "black" (oops I said it) sportscaster had said this they would have shown another beer commercial and kept going. Everyone in here needs to acknowledge FREE SPEECH. It's his opinion, It may be stupid, He may be a fat drug addict moron, but has the same freedoms as you and me. The Freedom to make all the stupid ass, ridiculous, nonsense coments we want.


P.S. If he had made the same comment about a white
boxer instead of a black quarterback....would anyone
make a stink?
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All a joke

by no one Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 11:43 AM
vcvcpt@yahoo.com

To be quite honest..I hate Rush Limbaugh I think he's
an idiot and standing up for him makes me sick. I do however think that the comment he made
was only taken so harshly because it contained the
word black. The problem isn't with Rush, it's with this
country. We're all so quick to jump on anyone that
mentions a race other than their own. If a "black" (oops
I said it) sportscaster had said this they would have
shown another beer commercial and kept going.
Everyone in here needs to acknowledge FREE
SPEECH. It's his opinion, It may be stupid, He may be a fat drug addict moron, but has the same freedoms as you and me. The Freedom to make all the stupid ass, ridiculous, nonsense coments we want.

Final Thought.... If he had made the same comment about a white boxer instead of a black quarterback....would anyone make a stink?
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Limbaugh Comments

by RN Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 12:05 PM

Three Democratic candidates for president, - Wesley Clark, Howard Dean and
Al Sharpton - not only attacked Rush Limbaugh, they called on ESPN to fire him.
Heaven help us if they think they caused Rush's demise. Where is the ACLU,
if self-appointed political leaders think the First Amendment means so little
they can get rid of any commentator that they consider politically incorrect? That's bad
news for journalists who make their living the way they do. It could be worse news for
the American people.
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maybe

by hunter Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 1:32 PM

even as bad as killing them like the US army or the IDF does.
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DWEET! DWEET!

by nonanarchist Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 2:28 PM

Non-sequittur Alert!

Non-sequittur Alert!

This means you, hunter.
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More words of wisdom

by Pity the lost Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 2:32 PM

More words of wisdom...
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from one of the stooges
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DWEET!!! idiot moron alert

by hunter Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 2:33 PM

"That's bad
news for journalists "
moron.
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Hi! I'm a Liberal!

by Lefty McSinister Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 4:22 PM

I read posts on la-imc all day, and have trouble getting through a thread without posting at least one reference to Hitler, fascism, shills, Zionism, or racism.

When confronted with a post that disagrees with I'm told to believe, I get frightened, and try to make the bad man stop by using one of the aformentioned words. Invariable, this fails, and I wind up looking even more ridiculous, because not only do I not know the historicall refences for any of those words, I don't, in fact, even know their true meanings.

When confronted with a post that I can't recognize as humorous (because I don't have a sense of humor), I repeat what was posted, substituting a combination of the 5 words above for the words that make my beliefs look as silly as they actually are...and pointing out my lack of humor and emphasizing my silly beliefs at the same time.

I am in a minority in the country, and yet I blame my political failures not on the country's growing dissatisfation with my politics, but on a vague, amorphous conspiracy involving neo-cons, Zionists, kkkorporations (note clever use of the letters "kkk") and Karl Rove.

I wish my country were totally subserviant to the United Nations, because I feel ( I "feel" a lot; it relieves the pain of trying to think) that France should have a say in my own country's foreign and domestic policy.

I hold up as an absolute, unimpeachable source any person or media that blathers the same swill I do. Hence my love of Barbra, Sean, Alec, Janeane, et. al.,who are all incredibly wise in the matters of geopolitics. I wish the United States would replace the word "God" in the Pledge of Allegiance with "Noam", because I worship him, never minding the fact that a linguist knows no more about foreign policy than I do.

Speaking of worship, all religions should be practiced without fear of reprisal or intolerance, except for Judaism and Christianity, which are, of course, the refuges of evil on this planet and should be outlawed.

I want the government to take your money away and give it to someone who didn't earn it. I want a woman to be able to kill a baby in her uterus at will, but the State cannot execute prisoners because that is "murder".

I believe standing in the street holding signs will change the world, and the motorists honking are doing so in support of my cause.

I am a Liberal. There is no need to fear me; I am ineffective, impotent, and completely unable to recognize it.
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Yep.

by nonanarchist Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 4:26 PM

That was me, gettin' my rant on.

Sorry about the wrap; I forgot about phot above and his oh-so-eloquent essay on Donovan McNabb.

I'm outta here. Later.
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I like it!

by Amused Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 4:50 PM

ROFL!!!

You've really nailed those socialists. Great job!
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OneEyedMan

by KPC Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 2:03 PM

FIdo, were you born an idiot, or are you the product of hard work and determination?
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Line by line, Chicken Boy.

by nonanarchist Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 3:33 PM

Refute it line by line.

This should be good.
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I'll give you another chance, Chicken Boy.

by nonanarchist Thursday, Oct. 09, 2003 at 12:48 AM

Refute Lefty McSinister's post line by line.
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Hey, I'm a conservative

by systemfailure Thursday, Oct. 09, 2003 at 12:35 PM

lets use some doublespeak technology
and you answer the questions daveman......



I read posts on la-imc all day, and have trouble getting through a thread without posting at least one reference to george bush, "love it or leave it", anarcho/communism's failures, welfare fraud, Arab killers, or pot smoking hippies.

When confronted with a post that disagrees with I'm told to believe, I get frightened, and try to make the bad man stop by using one of the aformentioned words. Invariable, this fails, and I wind up looking even more ridiculous, because not only do I not know the historicall refences for any of those words, I don't, in fact, even know world history at all.

When confronted with a post that I can't recognize as humorous (because I don't have a sense of humor),C'mon, I mean Ann Colter saying me should "carpet bomb civillians, and take over countries and convert them to Christianity (that shit is hillarious)-- I repeat what was posted, substituting a combination of the 5 words above for the words that make my beliefs look as silly as they actually are...and pointing out my lack of humor and emphasizing my silly beliefs at the same time.

I only make up half of the voters in the country, and yet I blame my political failures not on the country's growing dissatisfation with my politics, but on a vague, amorphous conspiracy involving Terrorism, Liberals, France or Germany, Saddam Hussain, welfare cheats, Islamic revolution or hidden WMD's.

I wish my country were totally subserviant to the George Bush, because I feel ( I "feel" a lot; it relieves the pain of trying to think) that the Constitution should have no say in my own country's foreign and domestic policy.

I hold up as an absolute, unimpeachable source any person or media that blathers the same swill I do. Hence my love of Rush Limbaugh (drug user), Ann Coulter (religious extremist), Swarzenegger (no experiencein politics), KOBE,and a plethera of conservative publications -et. al.,who are all incredibly wise in the matters of the Constitution. I wish the United States would replace the word "God" in the Pledge of Allegiance with "George Bush", because I worship him, never minding the fact that a Yale bonesman and oil kingpin knows no more about foreign policy than I do.

Speaking of worship, all religions should be practiced without fear of reprisal or intolerance, except for Islam and athiesm, which are, of course, the refuges of evil on this planet and should be outlawed.

I want the government to take your money away and give it to someone in a foriegn country who didn't earn it. Why should we rebuild America, when we can rebuild Iraq?
I want a woman to stuck with a child she cannot afford , and when she asks for help I'll say "No Welfare for You; And I like how the State executes prisoners in violation of the Constittion and in a racially biased way".

I believe standing in the street and exhibiting my Constitutionally protected first amedment rights is totally stupid because "that old thing dosent even apply anymore". I like to make fun of those people who use their heads and think independently......Dont they know Our Leaders will guide us!!!???

I am a Conservative. There is no need to fear me; I am ineffective, impotent, and completely unable to recognize it

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sissie

by nonanarchist Thursday, Oct. 09, 2003 at 2:09 PM

Okay, I'll answer your questions, even though you haven't answered mine. And before you whine about
that, no, you haven't answered them.

1. If you actually read conservatives' posts, you'd actually see fewer reference to the subjects you
brought up that the ones I brought up.

2. I'm not told to believe anything; depsite what your groupthink tells you, I arrive at my opinions and views
through my own efforts. And the history I know is not some liberal revision that blamesthe US and Israel
and Christianity for all the problems int he world.

3. Get real. I have a sense of humor, which I repeatedly demonstate. Not my fault you can't
recognize it; more proof you ain't got one. It's your bunch whose humor stops at the level of "Bush =
Hitler" photoshops.

4. Republican political failures? What are you, stupid? Who's in the White House? Congress? Sacramento?
And if you consider terrorism, liberals, etc. an amorphous conspiracy, you really don't have a good grasp of reality, do you?


5. Nope. If someone runs against him who I think would do a better job, I'd vote for the new guy. And your
whining about the Constitution holds no water, as evidenced by the continued posting of people who want
to overthrow the Constitution. If your whining had any basis in fact, those people would have been rounded
up by now. And on the whole, liberals are guided by their feelings; conservatives by facts.

6. Nope. I don't listen to Rush; I read Coulter only when BA posts her article in here; Anrie's political
views are unimportant to me ( I only supported him becasue I figured he couldn't screw thing up any worse
than Davis did); KOBE? You gotta be kidding me. Nobody holds him up but KOBE. As for the
publications, please be more specific, and I'll let you know my views. I like the word "God" in the pledge just
fine, and think it should remain. And I worship no one but God and His Son Jesus. No mere man is worthy of worship.

7. No religion should be outlawed. Once law and religion mix, you get big, big trouble. While I don't
agree with religions other than Christianity, I do not presume to tell other people how they may worhip...if
they worship at all. The Left, however, uses the ACLU to remove any mention of Christiany in public places...
while turning a blind eye to other religions in public.

8. We should rebuild Iraq. Like it or not, we have obligations there, and we will fulfill them. Besides, if
we didn't you'd whine about that, too.

9. No woman has to support a child if she doesn't want to. Ever hear of adoption? Welfare? i got a better
idea...how about the government paying to educate and train her with a marketable skill (note: Liberal Arts
is not a marketable skill) so she can provide for herself and her children. Much better than paying her
to breed, dont' you think?

10. I fully support the right of everyone to express their views. If you say I don't, you're lying. However, there
are effective ways to express your views, and there are ineffective ways. Protesting, while it serves to make
you feel better and put forth your opinion, accomplishes
little else. If you think it actually has changed society in any concrete way, I'd love to hear it. I like to make fun of
people who express their ridiculous opinions in ridiculous ways...but I don't say they can't do it.

I am a conservative. There are many more of us every day. The election in California is proof that people are
fed up with liberal policies and their failures. You, of course, can't see this, because the election was stolen
and/or bought, the public is too stupid to see how they are being manipulated, the voting machines are
controlled by Republicans, and any other reason than the truth:

More people are tired of your crap than like your crap.

Now, sissie: Your turn.
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rush is New World Order poodle

by ynoit Thursday, Oct. 09, 2003 at 9:18 PM

Rush is just one of those oversized poodles lapping up to the threats of the Cabal. He must follow the path to get everyone on line to the New World Order, which will probably support the antichrist. There are plans for a One World Religion. They want to put microchips in people and get rid of cash.
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