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What Liberals Believe

by Rich Lowry Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 3:42 AM

Rich Lowry is editor of National Review and he has a deep understanding of Democrats and Liberals

A presidential primary is a way for a political party to make up its mind. Through the process of nominating a candidate, a party figures out its stances on the new issues and what adjustments, if any, it will make in its positions on the old. So with that, through their collective rhetoric and actions, the 10 Democratic candidates have arrived at the outlines of a rough philosophy -- the credo of the Democrats of '04.

This credo is often nonsensical and hypocritical, but it is clearly discernible. The Democrats of '04 believe:

That wars should be authorized, but never fought.

That the United Nations is the world's last, best hope, and every jot of its writ should always be respected, unless it inconveniences Saddam Hussein.

That nation-building is always a humanitarian and just cause, unless it is undertaken in Iraq.

That anyone who said Saddam had weapons of mass destruction prior to the war was lying, unless his or her name is Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Madeleine Albright, Bill Cohen, John Kerry or Joe Lieberman, or the person ever served in the Clinton cabinet or as a Democratic senator.

That French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin is always right.

That President Bush isn't devoting enough resources to the reconstruction of Iraq, and that -- in light of his $87 billion aid proposal -- he is devoting far too many resources to the reconstruction of Iraq.

That George Bush maneuvering the United States into war is an act of manipulative genius, and also is very stupid.

That (fill in blank with latest conflict here) is another Vietnam.

That the U.S. military is overextended -- and should be smaller.

That unilateral U.S. diplomatic pressure is always wrong, unless it is brought to bear on Israel.

That it is absolutely necessary for the cause of clean government for candidates to abide by the limits set by the presidential public-financing system, unless they -- like Kerry and Howard Dean -- have enough money not to.

That big money corrupts politics, unless it is big money raised by California Gov. Gray Davis.

That punch-card ballots are a travesty of justice, unless they elect a Democrat (as they did in California just one year ago).

That Bush is bankrupting the federal government, but is a tightfisted ogre for countenancing only a $400 billion new prescription-drug benefit.

That Bush is fiscally profligate, but isn't spending enough on education, "first responders," health care or anything else not called "defense."

That the nation cannot afford the pending retirement of the baby boomers, but the baby boomers should get more benefits for their pending retirements.

That Bush is responsible for an economic downturn that began before he was elected and that Clinton is responsible for an economic recovery that began before he was elected (here at last -- a kind of consistency!).

That small-business owners are the heart of the economy unless they succeed, at which point they become "the rich."

That it is evil to be rich, unless you got that way by marrying Teresa Heinz.

That it is wrong to be a millionaire, unless you got that way by suing people.

That the sons of the upper-crust Northeastern elite are always and everywhere out-of-touch, unless they are named Howard Dean.

That it is unseemly to mix military matters with politics,

but you should vote for FORMER GENERAL Wesley Clark, and salute when you do so.

That a deranged candidate should not be elected president, unless he is named Bob Graham.

That no child should be left behind, unless it is in an urban public-school system.

That no child should be left behind, unless it is in the womb.

That the Patriot Act is denying Americans their liberties, and John Kerry, Joe Lieberman, John Edwards or Bob Graham should be elected president after having voted for it.

That deposing John Ashcroft would be preferable to deposing Mullah Omar.

That library records are sacred, but the Constitution -- a "living document" subject to manipulation by judges -- is not.



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Wow!

by nonanarchist Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 4:22 AM

Lowrey nailed it!

Perhaps someday, there will be a cure for the psychosis known as "The Democratic Party".

Oh, wait! There already is!

It's called "common sense".
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Liberal 'Philosophy"

by Reality Check Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 4:42 AM

I'd like to add another to the list that IMC liberals love... That George Bush is at once a complete imbecile yet managed to design and execute a brilliant covert attack on the World Trade Center, in a conspiracy involving hundreds of people, and was so good at it he has yet to be caught.
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More Cheap Labor Conservative Clap-trap

by krankyman Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 6:50 AM

Yea cheap labor conservatives are for leaving no child behind unlesss it is a minority
cheap labor conservatives believe that abortion is wrong so they can keep women in the category of brood mares
cheap labor consevatives believe that politics and war mix easily unless your the president who skipped out on his own tour of duty with the texas air national guard to keep the North Vietnamese from invading texass
cheap labor conservatives believe that tax cuts are good for the economy especially the economies of the off-shore countries where they hide there skimmed off corporate profits
cheap labor conservatives believe in personal responsibility unless we find out they lied about WMD then they blame someone far down in the chain of command
cheap labor conservatives believe in the environment so that they can pollute,pillage and profit from it
cheap labor conservatives believe this is the greatest country in the world so that they can piss on every other country
cheap labor conservatives believe war is great so most of them ducked out of serving their country(perle,wolfowitz,cheney,bush,limbaugh(with an anal cyst,lol)schwarzenegger,willis,heston)
etc,etc,etc,
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liberal media

by Mammon Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 7:12 AM

“liberal controlled mainstream media in this country.”
(this is always a funny one)
"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Mag- azine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years."
David Rockefeller, June1991 in Baden Baden, Germany,
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More Idiocy From the Neo-Cocks, I Mean Cons

by mediawatcher Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 8:27 AM

bush-asskisser the spook is what we call in Spanish a "mamon" (with an accent over
the 'o') meaning "one who likes to suck"

What neo-conservatives believe:

- That bush was a democratically-elected president

enough said, but I will add:

- That the national review reflects an objective, conservative perspective when it is actually
just a front for white supremacy and caucasoid-centric thinking. Get over it, losers, the
confederacy ate shit and died a century ago. When will ya'll grow up and learn to live
in peace with other peoples with different perspectives. And before some of you semantic
fucks try to check what I said, conservatism is not a "different" opinion, its the imposed
status-quo of the U.S., unfortunately.

Oh one more:

- Neo-Cocks, I mean cons (they are con-artists after all) will have you believe that they
got nothing better to do with their time than monitor progressive websites like the IMC...
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More Proof of Neo-Con Ignorance

by mediawatcher Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 8:40 AM

In my quest to inform the unenlightened:

bush-mamon above uses the tire "the jews control the media" argument to back up his
ridiculous claim that the media has a liberal bias. obviously this retard has never heard
of the AIPAC or the other conservative pro-Israel groups that are now working in concert
with right-wing conservatives under bu(ll)sh(it), including media moguls like ruppert
murdoch, who owns the extremely right-wing fucked-news, I mean foxnews. obviously
dickhead has never heard of clear channnel which has a virtual monopoly on radio
stations in major US urban markets. And to be honest, most of the men in places of
power in the mass media are really just anglo-saxons like you, or caucasoid who claim
their Jewish-American heritage when Rosh Hashanna comes around. Your pale ass
has more in common with them than you care to admit. But what do you expect when you
live with your head up your ass...

nuff said.
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"More Idiocy From the Neo-Cocks, I Mean Cons"

by nonanarchist Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 8:45 AM

Wow.

Could you be ANY more childish?

Are you still in junior high?

If you want to be taken seriously (in the real world, outside of IndyMedia, that is), lose the profanity.

If you have to use obscenities, your argument is weak.

Look at KPC, for example.
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Careful, mediawatcher!

by nonanarchist Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 8:48 AM

"And to be honest, most of the men in places of
power in the mass media are really just anglo-saxons like you, or caucasoid who claim
their Jewish-American heritage when Rosh Hashanna comes around."

That hardly falls in line with the official imc "Jews control the entire world" line, does it?

Blasphemy!
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as "fresca" non just called them "subhuman"

by Hex anon w/ encryption Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 8:56 AM

as "fresca"...
5.jpgwrqv7s.jpg, image/jpeg, 665x488

this soldier doesn't seem to think so - and he's actually there - not here sitting on his ass on some military base playing it safe running his mouth with our taxes footing the bill


> Could you be ANY more childish?

right - like you posting as 3 people, now that's childish !

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You're funny, Hex!

by nonanarchist Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 9:20 AM

That's why I like you so much.

"right - like you posting as 3 people, now that's childish !"

What are you so afraid of, Hex? Why does it make you feel better to thik that we're all one person?

Sad, really. But I will have to ask you to prove it.

This should be good.

Oh...and who called Iraqis "subhuman"?

Must have missed that.

Furthermore, I would remind you that, had you gotten your way and the war didn't happen, that child being cradled by the evil American soldier would have faced the very real possibility of witnessing her mother's rape, her father's murder, and being put in prison while still a child. Or simply being put in a mass grave with her parents while clutching a favorite toy.

I hope you can live with yourself, you bastard.
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he hopes *I* can live with myself...

by Hex anon w/ encryption Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 9:41 AM

he hopes *I* can liv...
karen07.jpg, image/jpeg, 358x541

Birth defects caused by use of DU on the civilan population for the "war"

> had you gotten your way and the war didn't happen, that child being cradled by the evil American soldier would have faced the very real possibility of witnessing her mother's rape, her father's murder, and being put in prison while still a child.

You're only talking "what if's" - the war already happened and THIS is the result - since you supported this "war" this is on YOU !



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Hex

by Reality Check Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 11:08 AM

Seek professional psychiatric help.
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aw - the truth revealed your dysfunction again

by Hex anon w/ encryption Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 11:44 AM

audio: MP3 at 1.0 mebibytes

sargent lyle at work "getting along"


what's the matter - truth hurt ?

you talk about "what if's" for proof

then when I post proof (actual pictures of the actual results of the actual war)

I "need help"

okaeeeeee


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Hex the sucker

by nonanarchist Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 12:43 PM

It is a proven fact that FAR more DU was used in Kuwait that in Iraq in GW1.

Yet there is no greater incidence of cancer or birth defects in Kuwait.

Same for Bosnia.

Same for everywhere DU has been used.

If that baby is indeed Iraqi (and I reserve the right to NOT take your word for it), its deformities are more than likely the result of chemical weapons residue.

Guess who put THAT there?

Yer buddy Saddam.

As for the "wat ifs" I posted, you can't deny them.

Unless you're a fool, of course.

Also, your paranoid fantasy that all who disagree with you is pretty cute.

Still waiting for the proof, though.

Good luck with that!
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PROOF POSITIVE

by disabled gulf war veteran Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 6:46 PM

How these warmongers FAIL to support the troops
AFTER they come home.
This fucking computer jockey playing "monday morning quarterback"
Knowing NOTHING of what the fuck he is talking about.
WHY BELIEVE THE TROOPS NOW?

FUCKING SCUMBAG TRAITOR!
WHY DONT YOU JUST SAY
"I DONT SUPPORT THE TROOPS AFTER THEY COME BACK"

YOU ARE A FUCKING DISGRACE TO THE ARMED FORCES AND TO EVERY DISABLED VETERAN.

PIECE OF SHIT REMF
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Excuse me?

by nonanarchist Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 6:51 PM

How in the world did you ever make that leap of supposition?

I don't support our troops?

You make a large error, sir.
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