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Attention FBI agents: Why does Amazon.com aid and abet terrorists?

by The Weatherman Underground Wednesday, Sep. 03, 2003 at 2:26 AM

Why is it O.K. for a multi-billion dollar company to sell and distribute information over the internet that will help aid and abet "terrorists"; but not O.K. for some teen to post a reference on his WWW site linking it to a site that contains similar information?

Now that Sherman Austin is going to federal prison, will I now have to go to Amazon.com and buy what books I need to make pipe bombs, cook up exotic poisons, and create other things that will make me an expert at murder and mayhem?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0970148526/ref%3Dpd%5Fecc%5Frvi%5Ff/102-9685700-6018548

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0970148534/ref=pd_sim_books_1/102-9685700-6018548?v=glance&s=books

Why is it O.K. for a multi-billion dollar company to sell and distribute information over the internet that will help aid and abet "terrorists"; but not O.K. for some teen to post a reference on his WWW site linking it to a site that contains similar information?

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Go ahead, buy from Amazon.

by nonanarchist Wednesday, Sep. 03, 2003 at 6:30 AM

If you weren't on the FBI's list before, you certainly will be after.

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Simple question.

by Anarchist Wednesday, Sep. 03, 2003 at 9:11 AM

Police states are not ruled by law. Police states are ruled by the whims of police officers and "top cops" whose authority rests upon appointments.

The best solution to this problem is a revolution.

Think, plan, act.

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Happy to be on the FBI's watch list.

by Anarchist Wednesday, Sep. 03, 2003 at 9:46 AM

If the FBI did not consider my anti-Bush agitation of sufficient effectiveness to warrent their attention, I would be disappointed. Resisting tyranny is not for whimps. Bring it on!

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anarchist and others

by thgir Wednesday, Sep. 03, 2003 at 11:24 AM

"Police states are not ruled by law. Police states are ruled by the whims of police officers and "top cops" whose authority rests upon appointments."

I have every reason to believe you are not an anarchist. Anarchist believe that any form of government is a police state. Therefore, to say "Police states are not ruled by law...." is a ridiculous statement for an anarchist, since the very definition of a police state is any form of law, especially governmental based law. To an anarchist, police states are not ruled by the "whims of police officers and "top cops", police states ARE ruled by law, that is, the law of those in power.



Also, I was not aware that amazon.com was running a website devoted to the overthrow of the government and the replacement of the current economy with anarchy. Books or material on how bombs are made in and of themselves is not a crime. It is a crime when coupled with a site dedicated to the overthrow of the government. That's a no-no. Any use of weapons to overthrow the current US government should have been immediately dismissed by Sherman. He should only have advocated the peaceful, non-violent removal of the current economy and governmental structure.

No reasonable person wants to live in a world where left-wingers and/or anarchist have any input on what kind of economy exists. Should left-wingers and/or anarchists attempt such a foolish maneuver, I assure you that there will be a plethera of us who will guanantee that anything you try and accomplish will be immediately train-wrecked. There's nothing you can do about it. If it means destroying all that is now so that we can carry out old style western hang-em-at-high-noon justice on left-wingers and/or anarchist, we will do so. And from the ashes we will build back society as it was before, as it should be. We will not allow you to ever gain any type of control. By properly examining world history, you will have examined our witness.

You people are dangerous, and you will be controlled just like you've always been controlled, which would not be necessary if you would control yourselfs and stop trying to take eveyone's freedom away. We are not interested in living under your jack-booted thuggary like your comrades in North Korea are living under, or your comrades in the former Soviet Union had to live under. We want to be free from your regulations over how we conduct our lives and how we responsibily treat the world's resources. We want to be free to produce and invent and discover and to do all the things that make life worth living unencumbered by your regulations of what we can use, what we can eat, what trees we can and cannot cut down, what materials we can use in doing these things, what we can drive and how much gas we can use, where we can live, where we can drill for oil or natural gas, what jobs we can perform, where we can build. All these things and more you continually want to limit our freedoms, and any form of limiting our freedoms is an alarm that you want to take away all our freedoms. We will not bow down to your feudal system of "rule by the liberal elite". Forget it. We'll kill you first.

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season for reason

by Sheepdog Wednesday, Sep. 03, 2003 at 12:46 PM

I'm not an anarchist, I'm a REAL conservative, that is, I believe that law, by the people under the frame of the existing constitution requires an informed involved people who actually have input into the process of their government.

What we have now is not government by the majority but by greed under the paradigm of corporate socialism for the few that hold the reins of policy for the benefit of the minority of dangerously powerful super rich families that control the corporations.

What we HAVE is a kleptocracy where conflicts of interests (criminal corruption) determine the laws that are made and selectively enforced.

Putting aside the concept of land and resource ownership ( because I feel that we belong to the earth, not the other way around) I am disgusted at the pillage of PUBLIC owned

lands and resources for private profit to let the general population to pick up the tab for clean-up or suffer the degradation of air, water and other common wealth treasures no one has a right claim as their own.

This country requires immediate medical treatment not euthanasia.

As the WHO made the phrase so clear in their song 'Wont Get Fooled Again' I don't want to see a land where the 'Shotgun Sings its Song' as law is abandoned and only the ones who command lethal force have any say in the process of living or dieing.

We need to leash the corporations, open a public forum of information and hold public officials accountable to the law. That will be a good start and stay the hand of chaos and terror.

Otherwise our world will suffer as few can envision in the coming era of turmoil as the fuel that has sustained our industrial society runs out.

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Sheepdog and others

by thgir Wednesday, Sep. 03, 2003 at 1:13 PM

" I am disgusted at the pillage of PUBLIC owned

lands and resources for private profit to let the general population to pick up the tab for clean-up or suffer the degradation of air, water and other common wealth treasures no one has a right claim as their own."

Total Bullshit!!

The right for people to claim a peice of land for their own to do with as they see fit is a fundamental part of individual freedom. Without that ability, individual freedom does not exist at all. Once again, we have the "elite" who want to tell us what we can own, or that we can't own at all, what we can wear, what animals we can kill for food and materials and how many, what trees we can and cannot cut and how many, what kind of car we can buy, how much fuel we can use, where and how we can dispose of our trash, how much money we can make, what we can and cannot do with the land. I refuse to live under the jackbooted thugs like this Sheepdog person who wants to tell me how I can live my life, who wants to dictate to me that I can't stake out a peice of land to call my own and do what I want with that land. My ancestors did not fight and die to become slaves to your little environmental whims. You keep your damn nose outta my business and your ass off of my land. If you don't like that I'm cutting down trees, or drilling for oil, or daming up the stream for irrigation, it ain't any of your damn business, so piss off!! Take one step on my property and I'll gladly shoot your ass! I refuse to be under the thumb of anyone who believes they know better what I should and should not do with what is rightfully mine to do with as I please.

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thgir

by Sheepdog Wednesday, Sep. 03, 2003 at 1:30 PM

I wont say you are a moron, you demonstrate the concept without my assistance.

Served in the military? If you had, you would realize the fallacy of holding a base against a mobile force. If you are of a mind that you can hold anything by fortifying it you are sadly mistaken. Anyway, you are allowed to mess up your own nest but you better think twice about screwing up my air or water or forests. You are nothing without the support of the government. If you want to lay your life out for a piece of property that you claim to own through a process of conquest, you open the door for like minded

others who see things the same way you do.

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Sheepdog

by thgir Wednesday, Sep. 03, 2003 at 2:27 PM

"Anyway, you are allowed to mess up your own nest but you better think twice about screwing up my air or water or forests."

It's not your air or forest or water if it's on my property, you jackbooted thug. You get you and your little brown-shirt left-wing crap off of my land.

"You are nothing without the support of the government."

Government?? I'm speaking in terms of this "anarchy as a way of life" crap. You don't get it. When a revolution comes, it's not going to be all this stuff you imagine. The government is not going to be there to protect you from people like me, people who love the land and will defend it. The first ones that are going to die after the politicians are people who currently spout off anarchist/left-wing/socialist/communist non-sense like you. We the people are not going to tolerate people like you telling us what we can and cannot do to "my air or water or forests", because they aren't yours to decide, it up to people like me to decide, the ones who live off the land. Think of the old west where someone would ride into town and try and tell the local ranchers they can't cut down certain trees or use certain fertilizers, etc. We ain't gonna spend time fuckin'with you, we're going to hang you in the public square. You be best off just trotting your ass back to town there city-boy and hope the canned food holds out a few years. Maybe when you get hungry enough you'll come around to thinkin' right and you'll learn the ways of the land.

"If you want to lay your life out for a piece of property that you claim to own through a process of conquest, you open the door for like minded others who see things the same way you do."

It won't just be me, city-boy. Me and my fellow ranchers and farmers and cattlemen will band together. You attack me you attack every rancher and farmer and any other person who makes his living off the land. You won't like the results. We are the mobile force, not some city slickers who think they know better how to run things.

You just got no clue. You think people like you are just gonna tell everyone "Let's be environmentaly safe and don't cut certain trees and don't dump things in certain places, and don't drill here, and don't use that product cause it hurts the ozone, etc.." and we're all just gonna fall in line and agree. We're not. We don't now. And without the police to protect you, you're either gonna shut up or we're gonna shut you up. This ain't no "King Geroge the environmentalist decrees what we can and cannot do", this is a newest revolution, and we are going to exercise our freedom to do what we know to be best, and if you don't agree, tough.

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no clue

by Sheepdog Wednesday, Sep. 03, 2003 at 2:34 PM

okay Mr. Ranch.

You have no idea. It's your hide that'll be on the corn crib wall.

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It's your hide that'll be on the corn crib wall.

by HAHAHAHA Wednesday, Sep. 03, 2003 at 2:47 PM

Yeah! The new revolution where everyone is an environmentalist whacko.

TILT!?!

Play again?

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"Think, plan, act."

by nonanarchist Wednesday, Sep. 03, 2003 at 8:49 PM

When are you gonna start?

I haven't seen evidence of any of the three.

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OneEyedMan

by KPC Wednesday, Sep. 03, 2003 at 8:53 PM

PuddinHead, you wouldn't know "thinking" if it was shoved up your ass...even though most of what passes as "thinking" for you comes outta there....

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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

by nonanarchist Wednesday, Sep. 03, 2003 at 9:00 PM

Oh, golly, Chicken Boy!

You are too funny! Have you ever considered stand-up comedy?

Man! I have NEVER heard the "you wouldn't know [insert topic here] if it was shoved up your ass" routine before! You'd better copyright it quick!

And "thinking out of your ass" bit is absolutely INSPIRED!

Thank you, my friend. It is such an honor to see a master at work.

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OneEyedMan

by KPC Wednesday, Sep. 03, 2003 at 9:10 PM

...yeah...I liked it too...take two cliches...shake well....toss them at an asshole...and you gotta laugh!

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