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1. 40 YEARS IN THE WILDERNESS By Mumia Abu-Jamal

2. Yet Another Witness Comes Forward and Refutes The Frame-Up Of Mumia Abu-Jamal! (April 27, 2003 By STEVE ARGUE)

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40 YEARS IN THE WILDERNESS
[speech writ. 8/13/03] Copyright 2003, Mumia Abu-Jamal, M.A.

It's been 40 long years since the much-heralded "March on Washington." Almost 1/2 a century -- and what is our condition today?

Our communities are ravaged from crumbling poverty, crumbling schools, bumbling politicians and brutal cops. Our culture has been ghettoized by increased corporate exploitation and the destruction of a sense of community. While hip-hoppers sing of play gangstas, the State engages in legalized gangsterism against Black folks.

At the very time that Rev. Martin King was making a speech about his Dream in Washington, the FBI was waging a secret war against Rev. King and anybody else who questioned the status quo. Within weeks of his speech, FBI agents were plotting how to place a good-looking woman in his offices to lure him into a sex scandal. In Jan. 1964, the FBI's #2 man, William Sullivan announced, "We regard Martin Luther King as *the most dangerous and effective Negro leader in the country."* They tried to find a "safe" Negro leader to "replace" him; for they saw him as too 'radical.' 4 years later and he would be gone.

Rev. King perhaps dreamed of many things as he tried to peer into America's future, but I doubt he foresaw the grim reality that we live in now; I doubt he saw this dark, cheapened future that is bleaker than "Blade Runner" for millions of black youth; who are barely tolerated, if they are lucky; and all but ignored as they are shuttled into stationary slave ships (prisons) where ignorance and racism is the rule; brutality and hopelessness the norm; and where, thanx to the 'good brotha', Bill Clinton (who someone called the 1st Black president!) education is, under his 1994 Crime Bill, virtually illegal!

40 years later; and prisons are increasingly the only Black communities where public housing is maintained; 40 years later, and Death Rows, North and south, are disproportionately Black; 40 years later -- and still white judges and juries sentence Blacks to eternities in Hell; 40 years later -- and still white (and now Black) cops wild on Black youth, beating, choking, shooting, and torturing them -- male *and* female! -- with impunity; 40 years -- and while there may be thousands of Black politicians, there is precious little Black political power; and much of that lies trapped within the cage of Democratic politics, where promises are many, but actions are few.

As Florida proved overwhelmingly, just 'cause you got a Voting Rights Act, don't mean you got voting rights. It may have been Rev. King's crowning achievement, but for tens of thousands of blacks, it's little more than a dead letter.

Under the conditions of this faltering economy, tens of thousands of Black youth go into the Army, not to fight, but to find funding for a decent college education. Instead, they become cannon fodder for insane propaganda wars, like the Iraq Adventure; in defense of an Empire that doesn't give a damn about them.

Meanwhile, it's 40 years later, and Black America, which once was a deep reservoir of hope, has become a stagnant pool of despair.

It is not enough for us to gather to praise the past; our challenge is to mobilize the People to transform our negative and deadening present.

It is not enough for us to rap and clap about battles won in the glorious past; it is necessary to mobilize the people to win the battles that are facing us today!

It is not enough for us to erect a monument that marks what transpired here some 40 years ago; monuments have a way of being forgotten, as this new generation has all but forgotten what came before them; they can't help it; When you talk about an American Dream, they can't see it, because of the nature of the American nightmare.

They look out upon an America that is utterly ready to exploit them,
but has never learned how to love them; they look out on an America that never wanted to educate them; but will not waste an opportunity to incarcerate them.

They look out at an America that is as alien to them, as it was to their forefathers 2 score years ago, who were sharecroppers and dirt farmers, and didn't have the vote. They suffer from a poverty of the spirit.

They look back into the mists of time, 40 years ago, and wonder -- what is there to celebrate?

Copyright 2003 Mumia Abu-Jamal
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MUMIA'S COLUMNS NEED TO BE PUBLISHED AS BROADLY AS POSSIBLE TO INSPIRE PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT AND HELP CALL ATTENTION TO HIS CASE.

The campaign to kill Mumia is in full swing and we need you to **please** contact as many publications and information outlets as you possibly can to run Mumia's commentaries (on-line and **especially off-line**)!! The only requirements are that you run them *unedited*, with every word including copyright information intact, and send a copy of the publication to Mumia and/or ICFFMAJ.

THANK YOU!!!

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Yet Another Witness Comes Forward and Refutes The frame-Up Of Mumia
Abu-Jamal!
(April 27, 2003) http://lists.riseup.net/www/info/liberation_news

By STEVE ARGUE
Under oath, and with a man’s life on the line, hospital security guard Priscilla Durham testified that she heard Mumia Abu-Jamal yell out as he lay bleeding in the hospital, "I shot the motherf---er and I hope he dies."

In the original police report by Officer Gary Wakshul, who was with Mumia the entire time through his arrest and medical treatment, Wakshul stated, "during this time the Negro male made no comment." Yet Gary Wakshul stated later that he heard Mumia confess that night. Gary Wakshul didn't "remember" this confession until almost three months after Mumia's arrest when prosecutor McGill met with police asking for a confession. Officer Wakshul absurdly stated that he didn't think the confession was important at the time he wrote his original report. Despite the importance of this evidence a jury has never been allowed to hear Wakshul’s original report.

Security guard Priscilla Durham’s testimony has now been refuted by yet another eyewitness. The half- brother of Priscilla Durham, Kenneth Pate, submitted a declaration through Mumia’s lawyers in the U.S. Court of Appeals and in the Third Circuit Court on April 24, 2003 stating that, “I read a newspaper article about the Mumia Abu-Jamal case. It said Priscilla Durham had testified at Mumia's trial that when she was working as a security guard at the hospital she heard Mumia say that he had killed the police officer. When I read this I realized it was a different story from what she had told me.”

Instead Kenneth Pate asked her, ‘"Did you hear him say that?” [I shot the motherf---er and I hope he dies.] " Priscilla answered, "All I heard him say was: 'Get off me, get off me, they're trying to kill me."

In the affidavit Kenneth Pate also states, “She said that when the police brought him in that night she was working at the hospital. Mumia was all bloody and the police were interfering with his treatment, saying ‘let him die.’ Priscilla said that the police told her that she was part of the "brotherhood" of police since she was a security guard and that she had to stick with them and say that she heard Mumia say that he killed the police officer…”

Despite the importance of this new affidavit, directly contradicting testimony that put Mumia on death row, a court clerk is refusing to file the new evidence and its accompanying remand motion for the evidence to be heard in a lower court. As Mumia’s attorneys have stated in a press release, “the clerk's refusal to file the motion was ‘an unlawful act of bureaucratic usurpation’ which violated Mumia's rights under the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.”

In response on May 7, 2003 attorneys for Mumia Abu-Jamal were forced to file a motion in the Pennsylvania Supreme Court asking the court to order its clerk to file the remand motion. This clerk's obstruction of justice is just the most recent refusal by the courts to hear evidence of Mumia's innocence, but in the past these decisions had been made by judges.

The statement of Kenneth Pate is only the latest testimony that comes together to prove that Mumia Abu-Jamal is a political prisoner and the victim of a government conspiracy to frame him and put him on death row in 1981.

The frame-up trial of Mumia 21 years ago included the testimony of three eyewitnesses (Veronica Jones, William Singletary, and Robert Chobert) who later said they were threatened, coerced, or made promises by the police to get them to give false testimony against Mumia.

Facing protest and international pressure in support of framed political prisoner Mumia Abu-Jamal Federal Judge Yohn threw out Mumia’s death sentence on December 18th 2001. Judge Yohn's ruling, while possibly sparing Mumia the death penalty, did not overturn Mumia's conviction or grant him a new trial based on new proof of his innocence.

This decision is under appeal by the State of Pennsylvania, which is trying to reinstate Mumia’s death penalty sentence. In addition, political pressure is being applied by Pennsylvania Governor (D) Ed Randell for the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal. Ed Randell, a racist Democrat Party leader, promised the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal when he ran for governor.

Mumia’s attorneys have also appealed Yohn’s ruling and continue to fight to have the evidence heard and Mumia freed.

In earlier sentencing Mumia had been given the death penalty largely based on arguments that he had been a member of the Black Panther Party. This sentencing, based on political beliefs, was in violation of Mumia's 1st Amendment rights. Former membership in the Black Panther Party was used against Mumia effectively. This is largely because of the way the Black Panther Party was falsely portrayed in the corporate media while the FBI, working with local police departments, carried out a systematic campaign of murder and frame-ups against the members of the Black Panther Party in 1969 and 1970 killing 39 members.

While Mumia Abu-Jamal survived that period of bloody political repression in American history, he was later framed up for a 1981 crime he did not commit.

As a freelance journalist Mumia exposed the murderous police brutality and political repression carried out by the police against the MOVE organization in Philadelphia. That murderous repression was then directed at Mumia Abu-Jamal in 1981 when the Philadelphia Police shot Mumia, beat him, and interfered with his medical treatment. Failing to murder Mumia in the street and in the hospital the Philadelphia Police and DA then framed him on the false charge of murder on Police Officer Faulkner.

In May of 2001 Mumia's attorneys dropped a legal bombshell by submitting into court a sworn affidavit that contains the confession of Arnold Beverly to the murder that Mumia is accused of committing.

The new evidence that both state and federal courts have refused to hear include the confession of Arnold Beverly who states in his sworn affidavit, "I shot Faulkner at close range." Beverly also states very clearly, "Faulkner was shot in the back and in the face before Jamal came on the scene. Jamal had nothing to do with the shooting."

Arnold Beverly's confession is corroborated by eyewitness statements and forensic evidence. Beverly says he was wearing a green army jacket the night he shot Faulkner. William Singletary was there the night of the shooting. He says he saw a man shoot Faulkner and it was not Mumia. He also states that the actual killer was wearing a green army jacket.

Four eyewitnesses, including two cops, put a man wearing a green army jacket on the scene. Five eyewitnesses described a man fleeing the scene the way Beverly describes he did. Mumia of course was not running anywhere, he was lying on the ground with a bullet in his chest.

According to Arnold Beverly, Mumia arrived on the scene after Beverly had already shot Faulkner. Beverly says that Mumia was then shot by an arriving officer. The prosecution claims that Mumia was shot by Faulkner in self defense as Faulkner laid on the ground dying. Yet Beverly's story does fit with forensic evidence and the report of a cop at the scene that night. The cop stated that Mumia was shot by an arriving officer. The downward trajectory of the bullet into Mumia's chest also makes it physically impossible for Faulkner to have shot Mumia from the ground. In fact five hours after the shooting a police medical examiners report states that Mumia "was shot subsequently by arriving police reinforcements."

On every level Arnold Beverly's sworn confession to a capital offense is in fact backed up by evidence, while the prosecutions version of events is not. This, however, has not been cause enough for the prosecution to reconsider pushing for the execution and jailing of an innocent man. Instead they have successfully argued in court that the new evidence was not brought forward in a timely manner.

Ramona Africa spoke on this point at demonstration of 3,000 for Mumia on August 17th 2001 stating, "Judge Dembe has said she wants, in three weeks, some briefs to determine whether or not it's too late to prove his innocence, whether or not this information comes too late. We're saying it's never too late! What is she talking about, too late?… We aint interested in legalities. We're interested in what's right. Slavery was legal, but that wasn't right! Apartheid was legal but that wasn't right! The murder of Shaka Sankofa down in Texas, despite his innocence, was legal but that wasn't right! We don't care about legality. We care about justice and what is right."

In State court Mumia's attorney, Eliot Grossman put forward important legal arguments on why the 60-day limit should not apply to Beverly's confession, which was first made in 1999. He pointed out that Mumia's former, and fired, legal team of Leonard Weinglass and Dan Williams misinformed Mumia that they were investigating Arnold Beverly's confession when in fact they never had any intention of presenting it for evidence. Williams makes this point clear in his new book "Executing Justice" where he states that he doesn't believe the Beverly confession and that he doesn't believe the police would ever frame up an innocent man. These attorneys allowed the 60-day time line to expire without Mumia's permission or knowledge.

Mumia fired Weinglass and Williams after Williams betrayed attorney client confidentiality in May 2001 by publishing the money making book, "Executing Justice," purported to be an insiders account of Mumia's case. The publication of the book at a critical time in Mumia's appeal process shows that Williams was not looking out for Mumia's legal interests. Weinglass also knew the book was coming out, but did not inform Mumia. This, like their treatment of the Arnold Beverly confession, was a betrayal of the interests of their client and shows that they were not adequately representing him.

In federal court Judge Yohn has ruled that Beverly's confession is inadmissible citing the Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act signed into law by Bill Clinton in 1996. The act, among other things, sets a time limit of one year for death row inmates to present new evidence. Yohn echoed the prosecution by falsely stating the "petitioner chose not to present his claim to the state court or even to this court until May 2001."

Yohn's chilling decision also cited the infamous 1993 Herrera decision that proof of innocence is no bar for execution.

These rulings and statements of both Judge Dembe and Judge Yohn, along with those of Judge Sabo before them, are in effect saying that an American capitalist court of law is no place for evidence proving innocence.

On September 4th of last year Terri Maurer-Carter, an official court stenographer in the courts where Mumia was framed, came forward with more information on the state of mind of Judge Sabo during the trial. She states in an affidavit submitted last year, "Judge Sabo and another person were engaged in conversation. Judge Sabo was discussing the case of Mumia Abu-Jamal. During the course of that conversation, I heard Judge Sabo say, "Yeah, and I'm going to help them fry the n______." There were three people present when Judge Sabo made that remark, including myself."

Judge Sabo presided over Mumia's original frame-up trial, but he didn't just do that. He came out of retirement to rule against Mumia at subsequent appeal hearings on whether or not Mumia got a fair trial. At these hearings Sabo ruled that Sabo had not violated Mumia's legal rights by denying him legal representation of his choice and denying him the right to attend his own trial.

Judge Sabo also ruled for the prosecution against the admissibility of the testimony of a key eyewitness in the original trial, Veronica Jones, who stated that she was coerced through threats from the police into giving false testimony against Mumia in the original trial. Jones was a prostitute who says that the police threatened her with prison on warrants and of taking her children away if she didn't say what the police wanted. She was later arrested off of the witness stand on a petty warrant while she told the truth testifying at a hearing for a new trial for Mumia. This testimony was important evidence of the fact that a frame-up had taken place. Yet Sabo did not allow a new trial based on this information or any of the other evidence brought forward.

In addition Judge Albert Sabo barred Mumia Abu-Jamal from his own trial claiming that Mumia was barred for being disruptive. Yet court records have now revealed that Sabo barred Mumia from his trial at the request of Mumia's incompetent and now disbarred defense attorney at the time, Anthony Jackson. This court appointed attorney made his request on the grounds that Mumia was about to fire him and would if Mumia wasn't barred from the trial. Sabo's granting of Jackson's request was a clear violation of Mumia's right to legal representation of his choice and of his right to be present at his own trial.

Another key ingredient missing in the prosecution's case against Mumia is a motive. Beverly's confession, however, does contain a clear motive. Beverly states, "I was hired, along with another guy, and paid to shoot and kill Faulkner. I had heard that Faulkner was a problem for the mob and corrupt policemen because he interfered with the graft and payoffs made to allow illegal activity including prostitution, gambling, drugs without prosecution in the center city area."

The entire chain of police command that "investigated" Mumia have in fact since been removed from the Philadelphia police force for corruption. At the time Faulkner was killed in December 1981, the FBI was involved in at least three investigations of the police in the center city area for corruption including extortion and bribery connected to the mob, prostitution, after-hours clubs, and gambling in the center city area. Targeted in the FBI investigation were Inspector Alphonzo Giordono, the senior cop at the scene of Faulkner's shooting, James Carlinini, head of homicide, and John DeBenedetto, head of the division where Faulkner worked.

Witnesses and informants in the FBI investigation were murdered. This included a witness who testified against DeBenedetto in 1983.

Police concern that Faulkner may have been an FBI informant could easily have led to his murder. Donald Hersing who was a source for the FBI at the time testifies in an affidavit for the defense that the Philadelphia cops were very concerned about possible FBI informants at the time. In a similar situation the LAPD Rampart cop who blew the whistle on police corruption and murder in LA was released from prison in 2001. He immediately went into hiding out of fear for his life from fellow officers.

Attorney Eliot Grossman stated at a press conference, "Mumia Abu-Jamal was in the wrong place at the wrong time when a hit was in progress on a police officer causing problems interfering with police corruption." But for the Philadelphia police he was at the right place at the right time. Mumia had exposed the murderous police violence used against the MOVE organization. Corrupt police officers used the opportunity to kill two birds with one stone.

What we do makes a difference, however. The government's attempt to murder Mumia Abu-Jamal in 1995 was halted by mass protests, including 10,000 people in Philadelphia, and international support. Those actions stopped Mumia’s execution within days of it being scheduled to take place. Continued support for Mumia Abu-Jamal in the streets will be necessary to keep Mumia alive and to free him.

Mumia has sat on death row for the past 21 years, removed from his family. Yet he now stands out as an uncompromising voice for the oppressed and exploited. Many have called him the voice of the voiceless.

The many prominent supporters of Mumia Abu-Jamal include the European Parliament, Nelson Mandela, the Japanese Diet, the Congressional Black Caucus, The Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sam Jordan, Leonard Peltier, and many unions in the United States and around the world.

In addition, Mumia Abu-Jamal has been made an honorary citizen of Paris by the French City Council. That honor was last bestowed on Pablo Picasso in 1971.

Mumia stands up for unions, against war, against racism, for equality for gays and lesbians, for the poor, and against the many injustices of the so-called criminal justice system. Mumia speaks up on many of the issues ignored, lied about, or glossed over by the corporate media and the corporate politicians. We need Mumia, yes we need him alive, but we also need him free. Yet all of the evidence shows that Mumia won't get justice in America's courts unless we turn up the heat.

For protests, teach-ins, and strikes (like the west coast 1998 longshoreman’s strike for Mumia) to: Free Mumia Abu-Jamal! Do not reinstate the death sentence for Mumia! All new evidence should be heard! Abolish the Racist Death Penalty! For a socialist revolution in the United States to free all political prisoners and charge the police for their crimes!

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That's all fine and good and all, but there's a mountain of evidence proving "mumia's" guilt from evry concievable angle. From ballsistics, to witnesses (including his own brother) to admissions of guilt to the bottom line of being arrested at the scene, kneeling over Officer Faulkner with the murder weapon in his hand and the holdster for said weapon on his hip.

He really needs to suffer and then die slowly.

Whenever Wesley Cook dies, I hope the location of his burial place is posted on Indymedia. I look forward to taking a piss on his grave.

We as a people have been stepped on too long. For the last 40 years, the "dream" has become nothing but another nightmare. We have trusted people who only take our vote and return to us the same broken promises. We have falsely put our hope in such traitors as Jesse Jackson and Al Shaprton who are willing to sell out their own race for the money fame and fortune brings. The system is completely stacked against us, and the hope of receiving the reparations we so rightfully deserve is never to be. It is time for action! The time is NOW!! Let's sit around and talk about it. Then, we'll drink some Thunderbird or Night Train or some Malt Liquor, smoke a doobie and some menthol cigarettes and play checkers. We is stoned. Then, we'll sit around and talk about it some more.

Caducada: "He really needs to suffer and then die slowly."

...umm, that would be unconstitutional...but hey...you're a Republican, for which the Constitution is like toilet paper...

...fuckin' anti-American scum....

Idiot - ...umm, that would be unconstitutional...

No it wouldn't. That would be justice. You fuckin' anti-American obnixous asswipe.

...umm, 8th Amendment...know it? Y'know...cruel and unusual punishment? Any method chosen to ensure that the victim would "suffer and die slowly" would not pass this test...

...now, I would classify anyone who would 'swipe their asses with the Constitution in such a manner as Anti-American....

...but idiots like you just call them Republicans.....

Of course cruel and unusual punishment is unconstitutional which is exactly why I would never endorse such a state sponsored end for cooke. I'm merely stating that given that he's absolutely and unequivocably guilty of cold-blooded murder of a cop and has made a cottage industry out of lying about it, I think that it would be fitting if he contracted some very painful, debilitating and incurable disease.

I believe that would fit nicely into your, ahem, concern for the constitution.

OK..that would be constitutional...sick..but constitutional...nothing in the constitution prohibits voodoo...

...so were you really listening to "Loaded" or were you jerking me off?

You're all talk and no action, just like the rest of your liberal ilk.

Should we ever meet f2f, I'd spit in your face. If you but made a motion to raise an objection, I'd fill you so full of lead they'd bury you in 100 different coffins. You're a chickenshit just like all the rest. You and your ilk can't even pull off something as simple as overthrowing the US government. You're real damn good at sitting around and talking about it though. If we conservatives felt the same way about the government that you did, we wouldn't be sitting here talking about it, we would have already done it. Years ago we would have done it. That you haven't just shows how weak you are, which is why we're here, to spit in your face and laugh at how fucking stupid you are, and how you can't do what you want to do cause you too fucking stupid and weak. Can't even overthrow the government, you fucking puny-assed weakling.

What the fuck are you on, dude?

I have NEVER said that I wanted to overthrow the government. Where'd the fuck you get that from, dickless?

And if we ever met "f2f", and you felt man enough to put away your pea-shooter, I would kick your scrawny bootlicking ass up and down the street and LAUGH MY ASS OFF WHILE DOING IT! You would't even get your spit past your front buck teeth before you'd be pickin' 'em out of the gutter with broken fingers! I'd kick you ass so bad that fellow Republicans would change parties out of embarrassment! I've taken shits bigger, smarter AND better looking than you, and that ain't sayin' much.

I swear the sphincter spasms of these morons are comical.
That time of the season I guess... Setch talk.
Rabid assholes wouldn't do anything but wet their pants in a fire fight and blubber for help.
“OOOoo! mean liberals are shooting back- the liberals have GUNS...?.!!”.

"just shows how weak you are"

In your own way, you nailed it. And it goes beyond that. These people simply don't have what it takes, neither mentally nor physically, to conduct a revolution. You have personalities on here like KPC and Sheepdog who can't even organize an independent thought, much less be a part of a revolution. If you could go back in history and replace the founding fathers with those personalities on this board who so desire change, we would all still be living under the British crown. They are, indeed, all talk and no action. And you're right, had they the knowledge to know how to end this government, they would have, but they don't. They don't have clue of how to even begin obtaining the knowledge of how to do it. But, Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, don't tell them, they think they do.

I've had similar converstions before with these idiots. They are afraid to die. Have you ever heard of a revolution where people are afraid to die for what they believe? They make up all kinds of reasons for not doing anything. They "don't have the numbers yet" is a common excuse. Of course, Castro started out with only 5 people and in a very short time had completed his takeover. Hitler started out with around a dozen, and in a few years had the ability to overrun Europe. These idiots have had 50+ years and they are no closer now than when they started. In fact, they are further behind, because the element of surprise has long past, a major tactical flaw when wanting to start a revolution. A few "trusted" comrades implanted within the movement, a few "untimely" demises by some key players, they would become extremely disorganized and untrusting. Besides, these people are so in tune to making sure each individual type of activism isn't stepped on they can't even get together to form one cohesive message, much less agree on the tactics of how to form a revolution. But, Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh, don't tell them. They think it's all coming together.

No, if there's ever going to be another revolution in the US, it will come from people like you and me, people who are tired of politicians and liberals wanting to dictate how we are to conduct our daily lives. The Sheepdogs and KPC's and Diogenes' and White Flight's and Stephen Devoy's and the LA-IMC collective will always be the vocal minority who try and talk a good game, but are too afraid to actually let the other foot hit the floor and do something about it. You won't find any of these individuals picking up a weapon anytime soon to overthrow the government. They're afraid to take the first step. And they're especially afraid to die. And you know how many revolutions were successful that included people who were afraid to die.

I don't know how sick it is...I feel the same way about anybody who commits any heinous crime.

And I was definetely listening to "Loaded".

I get a little tired of constant bashing sometimes so I'll ask you what else are you listening to?

"I have NEVER said that I wanted to overthrow the government."

Bullshit!! if you're liberal/anarchist on Indymedia you want to get rid of Bush and overthrown the government. You ain't got the balls to get rid of Bush. You ain't got the balls to do shit!! You're all talk and no action. If I felt the way about Bush that you did, he would be out of office already. He would have been out of office before he even took office. That you personally haven't removed him from office shows how weak you are. Can't even remove Bush from office, how the hell do you expect to take on me. Wimp! Can't even remove Bush from office by yourself. What a loser you are!!

so why wasn't he overthrown? by the conserfs?

If I had wanted Clinton overthrown, I would have, no problem. I did what I wanted to do to him, I had him impeached, which to him was worse that being kicked out. KPC can't overthrown Bush even though he would if he could figure out how, which he can't. He can't do anything. He's too weak.

If I had wanted Clinton overthrown, I would have, no problem. I did what I wanted to do to him, I had him impeached, which to him was worse that being kicked out. KPC can't overthrown Bush even though he would if he could figure out how, which he can't. He can't do anything. He's too weak.

Hey Caducada....I mean "Fresca"...you're right, it's fun in fits, but it gets old fast...

...got a Reverend Horton Heat CD...love it! Good ol' Texas boys (there're still some left I guess....sorry, couldn't resist). Also bought an excellent T-Bone Walker triple CD from a store that was closing for eight bucks. Great stuff..shows Chuck Berry isn't the original people think he is...

....now, back to stuff...

...doesn't wishing a slow painful death on someone who...regardless of what you have read...you are removed from in reality...removed from the facts other that what you are told...unless you are the officers brother...doesn't that sink you to the level of those you condemn?

"doesn't that sink you to the level of those you condemn?"

More than likely, and I should probably work on that..but it infuriates me that this scumbag has become a celebrity. That he is somehow considered a "political prisoner" is even more maddening. He's just a simple garden variety murderer.

As far as music, it's all about 16Horsepower, Grandaddy and the Birthday Party lately. Loaded has actually been getting alot of play lately. Haven't listened to the Rev for years. Glad to hear he's still workin'

the original post offers a truckload of counterevidewnce discharging mumia from the crime he's accused of.

either post precise,argued replies to the post or fuck off.

It may give evidence that Mumia is innocent to you, but that doesn't mean that it's good evidence just because you think it is. See, your biased to wanting him out, so your opinion of what is and is not good evidence is not objective.

I typed this message real slow because I know you can't read real fast. Let me know if you have a problem understanding it.

"Also bought an excellent T-Bone Walker triple CD from a store that was closing for eight bucks. Great stuff..shows Chuck Berry isn't the original people think he is..."

Is anybody the original? No.

Go back to T-Bone and find out who his influences were and you'll find out he's not the original either. Nor the one before him. Keep going.

slugs from a gun registered to him were pulled out of the cops body. He had two different types of ammo in his gun(one of which hadn't been made in 15 yrs.) two different types of ammo were pulled from the cops body of the same make(one of which hasn't been made in 15 yrs) getting it yet? had the holster of the murder weapon attached to his belt and the gun in his hand. if this isn't good enough for then i believe you would have trouble with a video tape of the crime. His brother only had to say it wasn't him.

"His brother only had to say it wasn't him."

To this day his brother has never offered word one as to "mumia's" innocence.