http://www.kobehq.com/

resolves to

67.153.176.14

or

ip67-153-176-14.z176-153-67.customer.algx.net



http://www.beachcitiesimc.org/

resolves to

67.153.176.14

or

ip67-153-176-14.z176-153-67.customer.algx.net



Not only that but e-mail at beachcitiesimc goes to an anonymous free yahoo account !

Also www.beachcitiesimc.org's front page appears to be stolen from *IRELAND IMC*



Whoa ! when you try to post an article, look at some of the choices in the drop-down menu;



illegal immigration

left wing commentary

islamic fundamentalism

family values

pro-government

anti-anarchist

neo-conservatism

american values



Please select the type of story that you're posting. If can't find a suitable type then perhaps consider that your piece may not be appropriate for submission to the newswire.

(has mostly the same choices but also;)

republican commentary

This phony indymedia site also has a link to Fox News ...

Hex anon w/ encryption what catagory is your post over at BC-IMC best suited for?

Here you chose "law"

your choices were limited to:-

perpetual war

art

raisethefist

environment

law

radio_imc-la

labor

neoliberalism

I wasn't that suspisious about just that although it did seem odd. But whois and DNS doesn't lie and the pull-down menu choices are damning for what they lack as much as what's there.

Kobe did a pretty good job of spoofing an IMC but with thier ideaology there's no way they could substain the effort. The cookies being sneakyly shoved under the door and only acknowledging them *after* people complained was pretty odd too, notwithstanding the stated purpose being *easyly* defeated the way it's set up. The real purpose is to track people across anon proxies and handles (your IP and handle may change but the cookie doesn't) I didn't look into java cookies since I block and dis-able all java upstream, however I will check for web bugs right now

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Am-Yisrael/message/6399

Look for 207.217.96.36 in the text and then tell us what that means........

Aw to make it easy, here is the page....

From: Yardena3@a...

Date: Sun Jun 2, 2002 10:26 am

Subject: 'Israeli State Terrorism' is a new term on websites



ADVERTISEMENT





PLO press liaison Karma Abu Sharif

Posts 'briefings'

at this site. read it through --

it gives a very wrong impression

several websites are devoted to one sided Palestinian versions such as

http://jerusalem.indymedia.org/news/2002/05/44546.php">latest

"Israeli" War Crimes : Palestine Indymedia they release their versions

directly to the Press

repeat story appears here and archives and pics

shows after effects of IDF incursions after 'after' a suicidal terrorist

attack

no mention of suicide attacks committed by Arab Palestinians

one gets the impression that IDF is just out to get them 'poor palestinian

victims'

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HearPalestine/messages">Yahoo! Groups

: HearPalestine Messages :155-184 of 184

"hearpalestine"

http://hearpalestine.org/">Welcome to Hear Palestine

Hear Palestine is a free press service offering daily mailings from the

occupied Palestinian territories. Material is analysed and compiled from the

Arabic press, radio and television transmissions, and direct interviews by

Karma Abu-Sharif.

Hear Palestine , a daily electronic briefing of events in the occupied

territories, founded during the first days of Israel's attacks on the

occupied territories, when a pressing need for a Palestinian voice became a

necessary tool for defense and expression. The idea, a personal initiative,

was to portray to friends abroad the reality of day to day events in the

Palestinian occupied territories which was not objectively characterized

through international media channels.

There is a clear shortage of English language media channels in the occupied

territories offering consistent and comprehensive coverage of events. Hear

Palestine relies on local Arabic language press as well as interviews and

reports on the ground to offer a detailed daily listing of events that take

place in the Palestinian territories under Israeli occupation. Hear Palestine

also endeavors to focus on human stories behind events and figures to give a

glimpse of Palestinian daily life and aspirations.

Saturday, 1 June 2002

Palestinians Killed:

Tareq al-Kharaz (23 years old), Nablus

Jamal Abu Musalam (35 years old), Balata Refugee Camp

Israeli State Terrorism

Israeli Invasions and Attacks Continue Unabated

**********************************************************************

Israeli State Terrorism

******************

*Israeli Invasions and Attacks Continue Unabated*

Israeli military invasions and attacks continued throughout the

Palestinian occupied territories today, resulting in severe material

and human losses. Large numbers of people were arrested from Nablus,

Balata refugee camp, Deheishe refugee camp, Tamoun town and Tulkarem.

A Palestinian youth was killed in Israeli military attacks in Nablus

today and another died from injuries subjected previously in Balata

refugee camp. Several others were wounded in military attacks. A wide-

scale campaign of home raids and arrests were carried out in Balata

refugee camp and the Old City of Nablus for the second day, while a

curfew is imposed on the residents. Hundreds have been arrested from

Balata refugee camp.

At dawn, Israeli tanks invaded Bethlehem and Deheishe refugee camp

and imposed a curfew on the residents. Wide-scale campaign of random

arrests continued for 7 hours of Israeli military occupation of the

city.

The Israeli army invaded Tamoun town, Jenin, at dawn, and opened fire

randomly at homes, wounding three civilians. At least six people were

arrested during the four-hour invasion of the town.

The Israeli occupation army also invaded Tulkarem at dawn and

arrested 21 of its residents, then withdrew after 4 hours only to

invade again in the afternoon under intense military attacks.

The Israeli army also invaded Aboud town, Ramallah, at dawn today and

blew up the town's Byzantine historical Orthodox St. Barbara Church

as well as raided and vandalized homes in the village. A tight

military siege is imposed on Ramallah and al-Bireh for the fourth day

running. Civilians attempting to cross in or out of Ramallah are

subjected to Israeli military attacks.

The Gaza Strip is divided into four isolated areas and in Deir al-

Balah and Khan Younis, farmers are prevented from reaching their

land. In al-Mighraqa and Beit Hanoun, Israeli soldiers opened fire

towards a Palestinian security location as well as attacked fields in

Beit Hanoun and prevented anyone from entering the (industrial) area.

Tulkarem

-----------

The Israeli army reoccupied Tulkarem late last night, invading the

city using several tanks and armoured vehicles from the western and

southern entrances. Israeli soldiers attack homes randomly with

machine gun fire as well as impose a curfew on the residents of the

city.

The Israeli army withdrew after four hours only to reinvade the city

in the afternoon. At least one civilian was moderately wounded in

Israeli military attacks- Ahmad Budeir, 26 years old, from Far'on

village.

Bethlehem

-------------

The Israeli occupation army invaded Bethlehem at dawn under intense

heavy machine gun fire. Israeli tanks and armoured vehicles invaded

the city through al-Khader western entrance, reaching Deheishe

refugee camp and imposing a tight military siege on the refugee camp.

A tight military siege continues imposed on the city and movement is

life threatening.

Ramallah

------------

The Israeli army at dawn invaded Aboud town and blew up its

historical church, one of four in the village. The Orthodox Church

strongly condemned the Israeli attack and called on world conscious

to take seriously the dangerous attacks against the Palestinian

people and their historical, cultural and holy places. "The Israeli

army on Friday night detonated explosives at the site of Saint

Barbara. I found that this small site was completely destroyed and

became a pile of scattered stones," a Greek Orthodox priest, Father

Aziz Halaweh, told Reuters.

Israeli soldiers arrested Palestinian youth Baker Allan, 17 years

old, in Beit Hanina, north of Jerusalem today and abused him for no

apparent reason. Israeli soldiers carved the Star of David on both

his temples using a razor blade as well as beat him up severely.

Witnesses reported that Israeli soldiers laughed as they abused the

youth who bled for over 7 hours. A public car driver picked Baker up

and took him to a hospital.

Nablus

--------

Palestinian youth Tareq al-Kharaz, 23 years old, was killed by an

Israeli sniper with live ammunition in the head during the Israeli

army invasion and occupation of the Old City of Nablus.

Jamal Abu Musalam, 35 years old, died in a Jordanian hospital

affected by injuries subjected during the previous invasion of Balata

refugee camp.

The Israeli army arrested several people in Nablus under humiliating

conditions. Balata refugee camp is almost empty of its residents due

to the wide-scale arrests, which took place.

Hebron

---------

Over 20 students were wounded today with rubber coated metal bullets

in Beit Aynoun, east of Hebron. Israeli soldiers based at a military

roadblock in the area attacked those attempting to cross, mainly

female students, through sand piles with rubber coated metal bullets

and tear gas bombs.

Gaza Strip

------------

Yesterday, Israeli soldiers based in `Neveh Dkalim' settlement, west

of Khan Younis shot dead Palestinian youth Hazim Zu'rub, 20 years

old.

Gaza Strip is divided into four isolated areas and Israeli soldiers

carry out attacks mainly in al-Mighraqa and Berit Hanoun areas.

**********************************************************************

Diplomatic Efforts

***************

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Domain servers in listed order:

DNS2.EARTHLINK.NET 207.217.77.12

DNS3.EARTHLINK.NET 207.217.120.13

whois -h magic 207.217.96.31

HearPalestine.org resolves to multiple addresses: 207.217.96.31 207.217.96.32

207.217.96.33 207.217.96.34 207.217.96.35 207.217.96.36 207.217.96.37

207.217.96.38 207.217.96.39 207.217.96.40 207.217.96.41 207.217.96.42

207.217.96.43 207.217.96.44 207.217.96.45 207.217.96.28 207.217.96.29

207.217.96.30

Using 207.217.96.31

Trying whois -h whois.arin.net 207.217.96.31

EarthLink Network, Inc. (NETBLK-EARTHLINK-CIDR)

3100 New York Drive

Pasadena, CA 91107

US

Netname: EARTHLINK-CIDR

Netblock: 207.217.0.0 - 207.217.255.255

Maintainer: ERTH

Coordinator:

Earthlink Network, Domain Administrator (DAE4-ARIN)

arinpoc@c...

+1-626-296-2400 (FAX) 626-296-5113

Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

DNS1.EARTHLINK.NET 207.217.126.11

DNS2.EARTHLINK.NET 207.217.77.12

DNS3.EARTHLINK.NET 207.217.120.13

ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE

Record last updated on 09-Oct-2001.

Database last updated on 1-Jun-2002 19:58:45 EDT.

The ARIN Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet

Network Information: Networks, ASN's, and related POC's.

Please use the whois server at rs.internic.net for DOMAIN related

Information and whois.nic.mil for NIPRNET Information.

traceroute HearPalestine.org

HearPalestine.org resolves to multiple addresses: 207.217.96.31 207.217.96.32

207.217.96.33 207.217.96.34 207.217.96.35 207.217.96.36 207.217.96.37

207.217.96.38 207.217.96.39 207.217.96.40 207.217.96.41 207.217.96.42

207.217.96.43 207.217.96.44 207.217.96.45 207.217.96.28 207.217.96.29

207.217.96.30

Using 207.217.96.31

3 130.152.80.30 5.616 ms isi-1-lngw2-pos.ln.net [AS226] Los Nettos

origin AS

4 4.24.4.249 9.257 ms

gigabitethernet5-0.lsanca1-cr3.bbnplanet.net [AS1] GTE Internetworking

5 4.24.4.2 7.449 ms p6-0.lsanca1-cr6.bbnplanet.net [AS1] GTE

Internetworking

6 4.24.4.26 9.572 ms p2-0.lsanca1-cr5.bbnplanet.net [AS1] GTE

Internetworking

7 4.24.57.14 7.849 ms p10-0-0.earthlink2.bbnplanet.net [AS1] GTE

Internetworking

8 207.217.1.11 9.941 ms vlan100-cr01-pas.neteng.itd.earthlink.net

[AS3703/AS4355] EarthLink Network, Inc. / Earthlink, Inc.

9 207.217.2.92 6.775 ms vlan264-ar02-pas.neteng.itd.earthlink.net

[AS3703/AS4355] EarthLink Network, Inc. / Earthlink, Inc.

10 207.217.96.31 6.167 ms webhost.it.earthlink.net [AS3703/AS4355]

EarthLink Network, Inc. / Earthlink, Inc.

Traceroute www.stop-fascism.org = 207.217.96.36

so stop-facsism is now the same IP as HearPalestine.org was last june!!!!

Methinks Kobehq and the new IMC are hosted by the same webhosting company, just like stop-fascism and a pro palastinian terrorist group are.

beware of whois and traceroute to commercial hosting companies........ there are LOADS of sites with the SAME IP

Why are people trying to associate Beach Cities IMC with the abuser known as KOBE? Beach cities IMC is hosted by Pyramideon Web Hosting of Palos Verdes, California, and the IMC software being used for Beach Cities IMC is programmed by IMC Ireland Tech Group.

Their URL is http://www.indymedia.ie/oscailt/

Design elements adapted to Beach Cities IMC were directly supervised and sanctioned by the Indymedia Ireland Tech Group, by its chief programmer whose e-mail is: vinnie@happyboots.net Oscailt IMC software is designed with cookies by its programmer, and if you visit the IMC Ireland website, you will see that cookies are used there as well.

Beach cities IMC has absolutely no association with any other groups, and we are not concerned with other sites being hosted by our web host.



Laura Moore

Beach Cities IMC Editorial Group

There is an action underway concerning Computers N.L.A.'s false IMC operation. I can not share details with you at this time. If all goes as planned, interesting things will begin to happen in one week's time.

Why do yoiu have a FOX hyperlink on your homepage?

What does that have to do with Alternative Media?

Why is their an prominently displayed center column article supporting a racist for governor of California (Schwarzenadir)?

Is your "IMC" actively promoting support of apolitcal candidate who has supported racist legislation in the past? Why?

How do you reconcile this will all IndyMedia's non-racist stances?

Lastly, do you think LA really needs an alternative to LA IndyMedia? Why not join with the existing collective to make it stronger and more inclusive?

Until you can answer these questions I will continue to ignore your site.

> an employee of ComputersNLA are the KOBEHQ website and the pYRAMIDEON website

> Subject: pYRAMIDEON sucks. Stay away from this psycho. Author: Victim of pYRAMIDEON. ... If you need web authoring or graphics work, stay away from pYRAMIDEON.

odd that kobehq and pyramideon are the ONLY web sites at 67.153.176.14 (and now beachcitiesimc as of a few days ago)

> A group of cyber-terrorists, Kobe, have designed and are opening a site in the net that is almost an exact replica of Indymedia.



Beware, Kobe, a known cyberterror organization is now starting a website at http://www.pyramideon.com that is going to be controlled by the leader of this nefarious organization in an attempt to entrap Indymedia users. A quote from Kobe SBM:

I now have Apache running, PostgreSQL, CGI and Im trying to get PHP running on it right now. The reason I need it is because the Indymedia software Im running at Pyramideon.com is written for Linux (active software). I hacked it as much as I was able, and it IS running, but all the features it uses written for the Linux OS were beyond my hacking abilities. So....I bought a new machine for Linux which will be KOBE's second server.

NOTE TO WURM:

If you want, I will give you access to it so that you can load whatever you want. Since the machines are separate, there is no risk to KOBE Headquarters or any other sites Im serving from the KOBE server. If you are interested, send me a PM. The only site I plan to run on it (right now) is the Indymedia Site (controlled by KOBE of course). The ultimate trap. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

http://www.kobehq.com/KOBEBOARDS2/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137&PN=1

Please help get the word out. Kobe SBM is the hacker at Indymedia.

See also:

http://www.pyramideon.com/

http://www.kobehq.com/KOBEBOARDS2/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137&PN=1

(1) Visit other IMC websites and post articles exposing the Beach Cities IMC as a fraud.

(2) Visit Computers N.L.A. I suggest planning a flash mob type action.

(3) Organize online activist actions targeting the IP addresses of the following websites:

http://www.kobehq.com

http://www.beachcitiesimc.org

http://www.compnla.com

(4) Contact the LA Times and demand an investigation.

(5) Organize a protest at Computers NLA. You'll have to do it yourself. We tried to help you with it at one time but you didn't listen.

(6) Contact KPFK and demand that they do a piece on it.

(7) Make "Boycott Computers NLA" bumper stickers and distribute them. The information on how to do this has already been posted on LA IndyMedia.

(8) Telephone Computers NLA frequently and complain. Ned Lyle, owner of Computers NLA is a proven pathological liar. Do not listen to anything he has to say. Just call and complain.

Vinnie here, the author of the software IMC Beach Cities is using

>Design elements adapted to Beach Cities IMC were >directly supervised and sanctioned by the Indymedia >Ireland Tech Group, by its chief programmer whose >e-mail is: vinnie@happyboots.net

No offense, but I never supervised or sanctioned anything, I just answered some technical questions via email about our software when the site was being set up. To be implying otherwise is very odd.

>Oscailt IMC software is designed with cookies by its >programmer, and if you visit the IMC Ireland website, >you will see that cookies are used there as well.

The only cookies Ireland use is to record display preferences, not tracking of users or addresses is done.

Whats more these cookies have only been added recently are are not available yet in our most recent software release and our Oscailt software is not responsible for any cookies in use on your site, certianly not the session tracking that seems to be going on.

No offense, but IMC Ireland never sanctioned anything, I just answered some technical questions about our software when the site was being set up.

I have to say I am somewhat alarmed at the nature of some of the topics on this site, and the inclusion of fox news as a link on an indymedia site is bizarre to say the least.

Vinnie

Indymedia Ireland Tech Group

Please forward all contact information you have on Beach Cities IMC to

SRDeVoy@aol.com

I intend to take legal action against them. Your help would be appreciated. For information on their 1 1/2 year death threat campaign see:

http://www.stop-fascism.org/george_bullock.htm

"There is an action underway concerning Computers N.L.A.'s false IMC

operation. I can not share details with you at this time. If all goes as

planned, interesting things will begin to happen in one week's time."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

I will give you more than two weeks...no, lets make it two YEARS, and see if

you can do anything. Not only will you not do a MOTHERFUCKING thing, but you

will finally see that your Computers NLA theory is a delusion. Also, get ready

for their lawsuit against you. Did you know that since they are a retail

operation, their suit against you has monetary value? You will!

As far as KOBE or myself, Im not exactly quivering in my seat here, and now

that you have made your bold announcement, they can all get to see me laugh you

once again out of existence like they did when you had your "protest of May 24"

BWAHAHAHAHA!

You dont even know who I am!

html> New Page 1

"There is an action underway concerning Computers N.L.A.'s false IMC operation. I can not share details with you at this time. If all goes as planned, interesting things will begin to happen in one week's time."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

I will give you more than two weeks...no, lets make it two YEARS, and see if you can do anything. Not only will you not do a MOTHERFUCKING thing, but you will finally see that your Computers NLA theory is a delusion. Also, get ready for their lawsuit against you. Did you know that since they are a retail operation, their suit against you has monetary value? You will!

As far as KOBE or myself, Im not exactly quivering in my seat here, and now that you have made your bold announcement, they can all get to see me laugh you once again out of existence like they did when you had your "protest of May 24" BWAHAHAHAHA!

You dont even know who I am!

You just don't know that it's known.

It is intentional that you don't know that your identity is known.

The action underway has nothing to do with a protest.

Because if you still have me connected with Computers NLA in any way shape or form, then whomever you think I am is intentionally planted information. IM WAITING FOR YOUR LAWSUIT! Bwahahahaha. Who am I, Stevie Dee? AHAHAHA

As soon as you try to present papers to anyone, your whereabouts will be known and you will be arrested for robbery, and violations of the Patriot Act. Then when you are incarcerated, you will be presented with the already prepared lawsuit from Computers NLA, and sued for damages incurred by them as a result of your year long campaign, and false information.

I will encourage each of the strangers you have harassed to joi in, and if necessary, I will GIVE them the money to sue you out of my pocket! Im going to be around to watch all of it go down, and you will serve as an example for others like you.

NEVER fuck with a KOBE.

And you're going to lose big, just like you did many years ago.

That tripe gets soooo old. We're all shivering in our boots.

I fucked with a kobe, not once, but numerous times. Nothing happened. I'm fucking with a kobe now. Nothing WILL happen. SJD has been doing it for 2 years. He is still doing it.

SBM you need to get hold of your senses, man.

Somebody slap that child and wake him up...

Here's some of today's IP info on KOBE SBM:

dsl081-034-019.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net

64.81.34.19

You came to KOBE Forums, then when you didlt like what we were saying, you "threatened" to "shut us down". How did you put it? "Okay, get ready!" or something like that. NOTHING HAPPENED. You tried some kind of lame flooding attempt, but it totally failed, plus I banned your stupid pussy ass. Then I batted your computer around like a cat toy. BWAAHAHAHA!

Then, not even a month ago, you challenged me to shut down "your" website. It turned out to belong to the REAL SmashTheLeft, whose handle you have STOLEN in hopes that you will get the respect he did, but that failed too. You said I couldnt shut the site down, and you started your hilarious "Status Reports"

On the 5th day, IT WAS GONE. Regardless of wether it was your website or not, it was a target you designated, and it was destroyed, as promised. Too bad you werent around to see DeVoy in his glory....7 forums total, and a job at Cycorp making over K a year. He was a designated target. Today? An unemployed clown wandering around Harvard University selling homemade bumper stickers. He cant get a security clearance EVER, and thats what is fueling his revenge. He fucked with KOBE.

Read about the rest at DeVoy's fucked up websites. He needs the traffic!

I don't want a security clearance. I promised myself back in 1986 that I would never work for the government again. Later I found that various employers were working for the Government. I was more than happy not to be working for Cycorp any longer. By the way, Cycorp is going to sue you for claiming that you work for them. Its just a matter of time before I hand your identity over to them. In the meanwhile, I have other things to do with regard to taking care of you myself.

For the record, I don't "wander Harvard Square." I go there to protest against Bush. I have three jobs and am doing well enough for my needs right now. I have no desire to return to the kind of work I once did. Specifically, I refuse to contribute to the Bush Regime in any way what-so-ever. Thanks to you, I've become a professional opponent of the Bush Regime. What this means, in case your small head has difficulty understanding it, is that I have more time to do damage to the Bush Regime via my propaganda efforts than I ever would have had had I continued working at Cycorp. In sum, your efforts to stop me have increased by effectiveness against your leader, George Bush.

Your time is just about up. Enjoy it while you can.

you got KOBE to hit smashys site? This is great.

Talk about walking into an ambush of friendly fire. kinda like the FBI

getting wacked by the CIA. ha ha ha.

KOBE acts as though he's somehow successful. Check out the reality:

Traffic for Stop Fascism:

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=www.stop-fascism.org

Traffic for KOBEHQ:

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=www.kobehq.com

The lower the "rank" the more popular the site (rank indicates the ordinal rank of popularity where "1" is the most popular).

For a radical website, Stop Fascism is doing very well.

Stop Fascism is only one of several websites part of the same project.

The fact is, Stop Fascism is read world-wide by a very wide range of individuals from many different ideological perspectives. It has achieved its goal: defying the dictim that "you should watch what you say."

It has also played a major role in bringing down the Information Awareness Office, one of its first stated goals.

Despite all of KOBE's efforts, Stop Fascism continues to be successful. You can't keep a good project down.

KOBE Headquarters gets over 5500 hits PER DAY, and the lame Alexa bot is not allowed to crawl my website. However, the pages it IS allowed to crawl are getting more hits than your lame site. We have had over 6 MILLION visitors since opening in November of 2002.

Cycorp will do NOTHING to help you. In fact we have information about you from there that you arent even aware of. How could we PROVE that you were a security risk without backup?

"I don't want a security clearance. I promised myself back in 1986 that I would never work for the government again."

Is that right. Then why did you apply for that job at Cycorp in 2000? You NEEDED that security clearance to get the job, and you moved from Tucson to Austin for the express purpose of taking the job. You started in May, 2000 and were at Cycorp until June, 2002, when you were FIRED as a result of being exposed as a lousy anarchist. You applied at several places, and were rejected because of your background report, isnt that right Stevie?

You ARE wandering around Harvard University campus, sticking your asinine stickers where you hope people will see them and come a runnin. BWAHAHAHA! Our law enforcement contacts in the Cambridge Police Department are watching you, Stevie, and you know it. They have already warned you.

Why do you wear the same clothes almost every fucking day? Your personal hygiene is HORRIBLE, and you need some more tennis shoes. We will find out where you go on the Red Line very soon.

Fact is, you're both a loser and a pathological liar. Both are demonstrable.

For example, you have lied about your identity endlessly. You lie when you register your websites. You publish lies. You don't even have the balls to stand behind your lies with your identity.

As for being a loser, your goal for more than one and half years has been to bring down a single, simple anarchist. You have failed repeatedly. All of my websites are still up. The forums were never important to me. I still don't care about the forums.

On the other hand, my goal was to bring down John Poindexter, a much bigger goal than yours. I did it without libeling him, without lying, and with my own name behind it. I won.

My next goal is to bring down George Bush. Along with the millions of other Americans that wish to bring him down, I will succeed.

Losers chose small goals. Real losers chose small goals and fail. You are a real loser.

In any case, I have more important things to do than to engage in a tit for tat with a loser wasting IMC resources. Dealing with you is a background goal. It is being delegated to others. As I've always stated, it is unimportant to me how long it takes to expose you and seek justice for your crimes. What is important to me is taking actions that benefit all of us. Those actions involve stopping the fascist regime. I have good priorities. You have poor priorities. Time is on my side. I can endure this indefinitely. Anyone that fights the power must deal with losers such as yourself. No big deal.

I'm off to do my thing against Bush. I have several websites that need to be updated, protests that need to be prepared for, work to do, bumper stickers to design and print, and propaganda to write.

Have fun jerking off.

Like I said, nothing happened. Nothing WILL happen.

I fucked with KOBe. I continue to fuck with Kobe just because it's fun. I have a top secret security clearance. I will have one until I choose to not. Kobe is a pissant. I make them dance like tea cup toting monkeys. DANCE MONKEY! DANCE! DANCE!

Hickory dickory dock,

Kobe sbm sucks a good cock

the clock strikes two

you'll shoot you goo

and dump George Bullock off

at the next block.

> do damage to the Bush Regime via my propaganda efforts

My defination of propaganda is different - I only consider efforts to be propaganda if the information is un-true. Since the information you show people is true it's not propaganda. Although there's nothing legally we can do about "beachcitiesimc" and the software is provided free, I think it would be wise to post notices on all IMC's about this fake dangerous one.

if the URL was http://.www.beachcities.imc.org (which I bet he couldn't get in the first place - beachcitiesimc was as close as he was allowed) then IMC would be able to have his domain name pulled... But in any case he's bitten off more than he can chew, IMC being a world-wide network and all..

I support your efforts even though you're not perfect - who is ? Maybe ignore kobe and let him waste his time dealing with the IMC network is in the works ?

His childish taunting is well beyond boring and appears to be the product of a disturbed personality. Imagine the time and energy he wasted to set up his fake IMC, and note his *technical knowledge* in trying to use cookies, the time it took to even get the software to run - all trashed by exposure of the truth - in this case specifically his own big mouth gave him away;

> I now have Apache running, PostgreSQL, CGI and Im trying to get PHP running on it right now. The reason I need it is because the Indymedia software Im running at Pyramideon.com is written for Linux (active software). I hacked it as much as I was able, and it IS running, but all the features it uses written for the Linux OS were beyond my hacking abilities. So....I bought a new machine for Linux which will be KOBE's second server.

> The only site I plan to run on it (right now) is the Indymedia Site (controlled by KOBE of course). The ultimate trap. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It is you who knows nothing. You throw out crap about this and that and expect any person to believe it. You have more stories than the brothers Grimm. All fairy tales. The thing is though that according to you CompNLA has suffered a loss because of kobe involvement. Don't blame others it won't work. But if it is true then the boycott that is LEGAL has worked and the M24 protest was a success. So which is is? This is boring already.

Stevie, how is the website going which you have said you will dedicate to KOBE? You already have the "permanent subweb" dedicated to KOBE in place, you have published literally HUNDREDS of different articles on KOBE, and now, you say you "dont have time" to go after KOBE? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You will find the time, Stevie, you always do. Besides, you ARE unemployed. If you are working, it is illegally, because there is no W4 registered for you in the State of Massachusetts.

As far as my identity, your lack of having it is a testament to the virtues of anonymity. At one time, before we nailed your picture and your name, you had pages in your field manual which extoled the necessity of anonymity. You had your Guardster proxy integrated into your website. You encouraged people to wear masks and to hide from police surveillance.

Your mistakes are not even your fault. You are just so incredibly stupid, you can be manipulated as easily as a lab rat. SJD was smart to get away from your ass. We already know about Anti-KOBE. Its good you guys are still friends, even though he still lives in Austin. Tell him he should consider hair replacement for that huge bald spot. It looks really stupid with all that long hair. BWAHAHAHA! Those weird hats are getting old.

You had nothing to do with Poindexter, and Bush will be re-elected in 2004. Your sites are pathetic! You tried to take credit for defeating the Patriot Act!!! KOBE is var more than you could understand.

NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM

CLEAN UP ON ISLE NINE!!!!!!!!!!!!

"The thing is though that according to you CompNLA has suffered a loss because of kobe involvement. Don't blame others it won't work. But if it is true then the boycott that is LEGAL has worked and the M24 protest was a success. So which is is? This is boring already"

Oh, but it wasnt the boycott that fucked Stevie Devoy, and it most certainly wasnt the non-protest of May 24th where NOBODY attended. It was the posting of pictures of Dave Young, Scott, Thomas Lasswell, and false information regarding Computers NLA which fucked him.

See, none of the stuff you have written is correct, and KOBE has no associations with Computers NLA. What Stevie has done is to attack an innocent target, which happens to be a retail establishment. Wanna know which law covers what he has done? It will sound familiar:

http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/judiciary/hju59932.000/hju59932_0.HTM

That's right...the RICO Act. But it ACTUALLY applies in this case because your attack was against an establishment which is in retail business. The precedents are overwhelming, and one specific e-mail you sent "demanding" my identity from Ned Lyle is an extortion attempt. Your posting of pictures of innocent people would have been legal, but you mistakenly named them as KOBEs or simply posted false names and information altogether

The only saving grace is the fact that you do not have anything registered in your name right now in Massachusetts. No phone, no utility bills, and no W4. As soon as you surface with your so-called lawsuit, your location will be known to your lawyer or to the courts. Its all waiting for you, Stephen DeVoy. As soon as we find out where you are, you will be extridited, tried and sent to prison. Just like Sherman Austin

I THINK I TOOK YOUR NEWSWIRE DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

NEVER FUCK WITH MEEEEEEEEE BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

BVWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

it's been spam slammed

God...you KOBE guys are such bad fuckin' liars.....



...no wonder you love da shrub so much.....

No Story with ID 396 exists

The site may be undergoing difficulties due to heavy load please try again later!

The newswire looks fine. No trace of whatever you were babbling about....BWAHAHAHAH.

AMATEUR!

triped over something.

Very stupid of you to give away your position, "Laura".

YET AGAIN BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

That site (Beach Cities IMC) does not belong to KOBE, but we know who is hosting it. Unfortunately, we have no control over the site, or its owners, but if they need our help, we will gladly oblige. They are getting a taste of you anarchist morons, and very simply put, none of you have the IT skills to fight us.

We are laughing at you. I cant wait until Stephen DeVoy is in jail! That big fat ass of his will be creme filled the very first night. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Actually, I received a very nice e-mail from Laura concerning our shared webhost. She wasnt aware that we share the same webhost until you morons printed that IP information.

She says that she plans to move the site to a different host within the week. Doesnt matter, the bitch has been deleting our posts anyway. We are in close contact with the webmaster of her webhost. Your attempts against the KOBE website have helped him immeasurably. Maybe Laura will give me a blowjob for helping her? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111

AN INVALID RESPONSE

NO AVAILABLE SPACE LEFT ON DEVICE



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your "at it again".....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I dont care what you do to that bitch at BC-IMC. It doesnt belong to KOBE. But according to the webmaster at the webhost, your attempts have been blocked. Permanently. He is a savvy guy...too bad that bitch Laura is going to move. You will be able to have at her, and we will laugh our asses off. BWAHAHAHAHA!

Um...that would be the proxy server, not the one hosting the website! YOU CRASHED YOUR PROXY SERVER!!!
 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

GO THERE AND TRY TO POST SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michael, you really need to lay off the Cisco and that cheap whiskey you drink. Rosie doesnt like it when you do that. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

The webmaster at our webhost has permanently blocked any attempts from you. Using a proxy wont help wither. Its your MAC address which nails you. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

http://www.beachcitiesimc.org/newswire.php?story_id=673

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

HE THINKS MY NAME IS MICHAEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> Beach cities IMC has absolutely no association with any other groups

> Because if you still have me connected with Computers NLA in any way shape or form





http://www.kobehq.com

http://www.beachcitiesimc.org

http://www.compnla.com

all 3 resolve to -

67.153.176.14



> We are in close contact with the webmaster of her webhost.



enough said...

these idiot fuckwits MUST be working with or for the FBI

You are such an amateur! Id recognize your juvenile and uninformed theories anywhere, Anti-KOBE in Town. You are LAME LAME LAME.

Compnla.com is at: 67.119.61.221

Their netblock is:

Network Information for 67.119.61.221

Pac Bell Internet Services PBI-NET-10 (NET-67-112-0-0-1)

67.112.0.0 - 67.127.255.255

NedLyle SBC067119061192020718 (NET-67-119-61-192-1)

67.119.61.192 - 67.119.61.255



You are just a computer hobbyist who knows just enough to get into trouble, but not enough to be taken seriously. GET A JOB!

> Using a proxy wont help wither. Its your MAC address which nails you.

How smart did you say you was ?

Here's my MAC's, question for "kobe" - what do they mean ?

44-45-53-54-00-00

44-45-53-54-00-01

while a Mac bible is leafed through

You cant even resolve a simple IP address! If you knew even the BASICS, you would be able to trace the IP addresses, give me the ISP (which for Compnla.com and KOBEHQ.com are totally, completely different). You actually said "KOBE is a script trap. It will overload your computer to the point of shutdown" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Then there was the "buffer overload which will allow them to run the script of their choice"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

So, all you have, is Stephen DeVoy, who says he's a "Computer Scientist", and then there's you, an amateur computer hobbyist whi cant even to an IP trace, and you want to ask ME questions???? Forget it. Go to school (for about 6 years) and get your Masters in Computer Science like I did. Then demonstrate your skills by programming in ASP and PHP, and C++, Perl, Oracle, etc.

You use fucking America Online, for Chrissakes! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Re: compnla.com

I didn't check that - I just pasted it from above. (it's already been established that kobehq is running on a box at compnla)



> Anti-KOBE in Town

I don't know who "anti-kobe" is but can assure you that I am someone different who has been checking out the war between kobe and devoy from about 6 months back or so.



> You are just a computer hobbyist who knows just enough to get into trouble, but not enough to be taken seriously. GET A JOB!



What trouble ? Using cookies to attempt to track people and claiming browsers send MAC's, that said MAC's mean anything in the first place, while hiding HTTP headers actually being used, how can people take YOU seriously ? People within IMC know who and where I am, I just don't like to draw attention to myself, hence the *6 chained proxies*, care to explain to people (since your so smart) how it's done (hint not web/gci proxies that allow -_- or /) but regular "in the wild" proxies.

And while your at it explain what *virtual interfaces* are too (in relation to MAC's).

Re: compnla.com

I didn't check that - I just pasted it from above. (it's already been established that kobehq is running on a box at compnla)



> Anti-KOBE in Town

I don't know who "anti-kobe" is but can assure you that I am someone different who has been checking out the war between kobe and devoy from about 6 months back or so.



> You are just a computer hobbyist who knows just enough to get into trouble, but not enough to be taken seriously. GET A JOB!



What trouble ? Using cookies to attempt to track people and claiming browsers send MAC's, that said MAC's mean anything in the first place, while hiding HTTP headers actually being used, how can people take YOU seriously ? People within IMC know who and where I am, I just don't like to draw attention to myself, hence the *6 chained proxies*, care to explain to people (since your so smart) how it's done (hint not web/gci proxies that allow -_- or /) but regular "in the wild" proxies.

And while your at it explain what *virtual interfaces* are too (in relation to MAC's).

> you want to ask ME questions???? Forget it.



Again you're mistaking me with someone else, I didn't actually check compnla myself only pasted what I read about it.

The MAC's don't mean anything, they are virtual interfaces. I design and build virtual interfaces from scratch (junk box parts) The MAC is assigned a number pulled out of the registry (MAC's are supposed to be like a serial number burned into the PROM of an interface card as you should well know, but should also know many apps don't even pass the MAC and on some cards it can be changed at will, EEPROM)

Chaining is done with 2 HTTPort's running under SOCKScap's pointing at 2 different SOCKS proxies, encryption (internally) provided by Zebedee, 5'th proxy being SSL

Since you have time to taunt all day but don't have time to answer a simple technical question or two and have stated you refuse to (to cover up what you DON'T know obviously) we might as well make this a learning experience - no ?

How did you determint that, pray tell....BWAHAHAHAHA!

First of all, KOBEhq.com is running on a box which is running Windows 2003 server. Second, they are running on a totally different ISP. Third, the netblock owned by Computers NLA is running on PacBell trunk lines, while KOBE HQ is running on GTE trunk lines.

KOBE has been telling you LAME wannabe computer guys this for months, but ya dont hear us! Your "intel is totally lame, and your efforts to tie Computers NLA to KOBE will fail, because there IS no connection!

All that garbage you posted above means nothing. No matter what proxies you use, the Cisco router tables will pass the physical MAC addresses of your NIC card to the first proxy in the chain. By modfying a certain part of the packet header, the return request will be sent with the packet. Your computer will bounce that part of the packet header, and the rest is.....classified.

I dont care who you THINK you are, or what you THINK you know, I know a LOT more.

"Since you have time to taunt all day but don't have time to answer a simple technical question or two and have stated you refuse to (to cover up what you DON'T know obviously) we might as well make this a learning experience - no ? "

I have demonstrated what I know by the execution of my website, other websites, and the fact that I am currently a Systems Administrator for one of the three largest aerospace manufacturing companies in the world. I have a Masters Degree in Computer Science, a top secret security clearance (which is now almost 20 years running).

"we might as well make this a learning experience - no"

NO. I spent 6 years learning, and I have no desire to teach an amateur like you. How many IMCs have been raided by law enforcement? Ever wonder why they always know EXACTLY what to retrieve from the servers??? You will never know.

> I am currently a Systems Administrator for one of the three largest aerospace manufacturing companies in the world. I have a Masters Degree in Computer Science, a top secret security clearance (which is now almost 20 years running).



And yet you spend all day taunting people, calling them names, HIDING from people, etc.. OKAY - whatever you say nimda.



> the Cisco router tables will pass the physical MAC addresses of your NIC card

And the fact that I *have no NIC's* but virtual interface hardware I make myself with registry assigned *virtual* MAC's I can change at any time appearantly didn't sink in... I think you need to go back to school, at least you've got the recess bullying part down pat.



> I spent 6 years learning, and I have no desire to teach an amateur like you.

Again you need to learn more - check out what *virtual interfaces* are and then try your "I can track you by your MAC" game again.

The VIA API consists of a library of routines called the VI Provider Library (VIPL) and a descriptor format for descriptors that are shared by the user application and VIA-aware hardware. VIA communication routines are normally implemented entirely at user level, while other functionality (e.g. connection management and memory registration) are implemented in the operating system kernel.

The thing is, that unless you know how to properly interpret your outgoing data stream (even with a sniffer, which cannot decrypt data), you really dont know WHAT is going out of your machine, wether it happens to be MAC addresses, VIA descriptors, an encrypted config file for your machine, etc.

Do you actually believe that the United States would allow possession of a machine which can operate TOTALLY anonymously? Do you know ANYTHING about the US intelligence community? I can say nothing further....

> The thing is, that unless you know how to properly interpret your outgoing data stream (even with a sniffer, which cannot decrypt data), you really dont know WHAT is going out of your machine, wether it happens to be MAC addresses, VIA descriptors, an encrypted config file for your machine, etc.

Do you actually believe that the United States would allow possession of a machine which can operate TOTALLY anonymously? Do you know ANYTHING about the US intelligence community? I can say nothing further....



The machine in question operates within an intranet with private addresses, and every node uses only virtual interfaces. The machine has no personally identifiable information in it (I give the machine a name, not my name when I name it - my name doesn't exist at all in it)

The gateway only passes the traffic on... There is nothing TO trace or track. Using this arrangement allows me to completely control what data goes out since the data originates within private address space. NAT, routing and other direct methods are not used. The network is extended to several other machines that I set up likewise - outside the gateway there's no way to tell which machine the traffic belongs to. Then there's the tunnels - something I won't go into but suffice to say I operate below IP layer.

We're not dealing with off-the-shelf boxes and NIC's, we're dealing with original physical layer links, custom virtual interfaces and private addresses. You only know what you were taught - my knowledge goes well beyond that to design, invention and implimentation of original never-before-seen hardware that operates below the IP layer. The boxes have thier HD's wiped and the OS/apps restored from CD-R backups then checked and various registry settings changed at random - any of my 14 MAC's can be changed at any time and are.

None of the boxes other than the gateway even have direct access to the internet. Only the gateway even knows them apart (I do use routing internally between boxes but the routes stop at the gateway and no NAT is used - only tunnels and proxies. I have several different types of tunnels including private serial PPP over physical link.

They didn't teach you how to do all this, your simplistic paranoid self-serving "knowledge" doesn't encompass these aspects of networking. (custom physical layer tunneling in an intranet enviroment)

Most of your assumptions are based on standard off-the-shelf software and hardware, but I don't use such things, I *make my own hardware* and use TCP/IP stacks like NDOS's custom PPPD which are adapted to Ham radio networking. You should install NDOS on a box and then use port scanners and other tools and see how far your "off-the-shelf" knowledge gets you...

It's a emulated (virtual) TCP/IP stack running in DOS and doesn't include most of the functionality of windows sockets including the security risks you've been taught. It does have enough functionality to do routing and act as a gateway however...

> The thing is, that unless you know how to properly interpret your outgoing data stream (even with a sniffer, which cannot decrypt data), you really dont know WHAT is going out of your machine, wether it happens to be MAC addresses, VIA descriptors, an encrypted config file for your machine, etc.

Do you actually believe that the United States would allow possession of a machine which can operate TOTALLY anonymously? Do you know ANYTHING about the US intelligence community? I can say nothing further....



The machine in question operates within an intranet with private addresses, and every node uses only virtual interfaces. The machine has no personally identifiable information in it (I give the machine a name, not my name when I name it - my name doesn't exist at all in it)

The gateway only passes the traffic on... There is nothing TO trace or track. Using this arrangement allows me to completely control what data goes out since the data originates within private address space. NAT, routing and other direct methods are not used. The network is extended to several other machines that I set up likewise - outside the gateway there's no way to tell which machine the traffic belongs to. Then there's the tunnels - something I won't go into but suffice to say I operate below IP layer.

We're not dealing with off-the-shelf boxes and NIC's, we're dealing with original physical layer links, custom virtual interfaces and private addresses. You only know what you were taught - my knowledge goes well beyond that to design, invention and implimentation of original never-before-seen hardware that operates below the IP layer. The boxes have thier HD's wiped and the OS/apps restored from CD-R backups then checked and various registry settings changed at random - any of my 14 MAC's can be changed at any time and are.

None of the boxes other than the gateway even have direct access to the internet. Only the gateway even knows them apart (I do use routing internally between boxes but the routes stop at the gateway and no NAT is used - only tunnels and proxies. I have several different types of tunnels including private serial PPP over physical link.

They didn't teach you how to do all this, your simplistic paranoid self-serving "knowledge" doesn't encompass these aspects of networking. (custom physical layer tunneling in an intranet enviroment)

Most of your assumptions are based on standard off-the-shelf software and hardware, but I don't use such things, I *make my own hardware* and use TCP/IP stacks like NDOS's custom PPPD which are adapted to Ham radio networking. You should install NDOS on a box and then use port scanners and other tools and see how far your "off-the-shelf" knowledge gets you...

It's a emulated (virtual) TCP/IP stack running in DOS and doesn't include most of the functionality of windows sockets including the security risks you've been taught. It does have enough functionality to do routing and act as a gateway however...

> The thing is, that unless you know how to properly interpret your outgoing data stream (even with a sniffer, which cannot decrypt data), you really dont know WHAT is going out of your machine, wether it happens to be MAC addresses, VIA descriptors, an encrypted config file for your machine, etc.

Do you actually believe that the United States would allow possession of a machine which can operate TOTALLY anonymously? Do you know ANYTHING about the US intelligence community? I can say nothing further....



The machine in question operates within an intranet with private addresses, and every node uses only virtual interfaces. The machine has no personally identifiable information in it (I give the machine a name, not my name when I name it - my name doesn't exist at all in it)

The gateway only passes the traffic on... There is nothing TO trace or track. Using this arrangement allows me to completely control what data goes out since the data originates within private address space. NAT, routing and other direct methods are not used. The network is extended to several other machines that I set up likewise - outside the gateway there's no way to tell which machine the traffic belongs to. Then there's the tunnels - something I won't go into but suffice to say I operate below IP layer.

We're not dealing with off-the-shelf boxes and NIC's, we're dealing with original physical layer links, custom virtual interfaces and private addresses. You only know what you were taught - my knowledge goes well beyond that to design, invention and implimentation of original never-before-seen hardware that operates below the IP layer. The boxes have thier HD's wiped and the OS/apps restored from CD-R backups then checked and various registry settings changed at random - any of my 14 MAC's can be changed at any time and are.

None of the boxes other than the gateway even have direct access to the internet. Only the gateway even knows them apart (I do use routing internally between boxes but the routes stop at the gateway and no NAT is used - only tunnels and proxies. I have several different types of tunnels including private serial PPP over physical link.

They didn't teach you how to do all this, your simplistic paranoid self-serving "knowledge" doesn't encompass these aspects of networking. (custom physical layer tunneling in an intranet enviroment)

Most of your assumptions are based on standard off-the-shelf software and hardware, but I don't use such things, I *make my own hardware* and use TCP/IP stacks like NDOS's custom PPPD which are adapted to Ham radio networking. You should install NDOS on a box and then use port scanners and other tools and see how far your "off-the-shelf" knowledge gets you...

It's a emulated (virtual) TCP/IP stack running in DOS and doesn't include most of the functionality of windows sockets including the security risks you've been taught. It does have enough functionality to do routing and act as a gateway however...

> The thing is, that unless you know how to properly interpret your outgoing data stream (even with a sniffer, which cannot decrypt data), you really dont know WHAT is going out of your machine, wether it happens to be MAC addresses, VIA descriptors, an encrypted config file for your machine, etc.

Do you actually believe that the United States would allow possession of a machine which can operate TOTALLY anonymously? Do you know ANYTHING about the US intelligence community? I can say nothing further....



The machine in question operates within an intranet with private addresses, and every node uses only virtual interfaces. The machine has no personally identifiable information in it (I give the machine a name, not my name when I name it - my name doesn't exist at all in it)

The gateway only passes the traffic on... There is nothing TO trace or track. Using this arrangement allows me to completely control what data goes out since the data originates within private address space. NAT, routing and other direct methods are not used. The network is extended to several other machines that I set up likewise - outside the gateway there's no way to tell which machine the traffic belongs to. Then there's the tunnels - something I won't go into but suffice to say I operate below IP layer.

We're not dealing with off-the-shelf boxes and NIC's, we're dealing with original physical layer links, custom virtual interfaces and private addresses. You only know what you were taught - my knowledge goes well beyond that to design, invention and implimentation of original never-before-seen hardware that operates below the IP layer. The boxes have thier HD's wiped and the OS/apps restored from CD-R backups then checked and various registry settings changed at random - any of my 14 MAC's can be changed at any time and are.

None of the boxes other than the gateway even have direct access to the internet. Only the gateway even knows them apart (I do use routing internally between boxes but the routes stop at the gateway and no NAT is used - only tunnels and proxies. I have several different types of tunnels including private serial PPP over physical link.

They didn't teach you how to do all this, your simplistic paranoid self-serving "knowledge" doesn't encompass these aspects of networking. (custom physical layer tunneling in an intranet enviroment)

Most of your assumptions are based on standard off-the-shelf software and hardware, but I don't use such things, I *make my own hardware* and use TCP/IP stacks like NDOS's custom PPPD which are adapted to Ham radio networking. You should install NDOS on a box and then use port scanners and other tools and see how far your "off-the-shelf" knowledge gets you...

It's a emulated (virtual) TCP/IP stack running in DOS and doesn't include most of the functionality of windows sockets including the security risks you've been taught. It does have enough functionality to do routing and act as a gateway however...

I dont care if you are using AMD or an Intel processor. If it was manufactured after 1999, no amount of amateurish precautions such as the ones you have described will do any good. Perhaps that little tidbit will give you some insight into why there are SPECIFICATIONS for certain hardware, compatibility tables, "auto-config" built into motherboards (where is the processor which computes the changes made? what processes the BIOS instructions?) Your machine is an appliance for you, and a tool for others you do not know. NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM.

You are technically savvy, but there is much you do not know, TRUST ME.

the server was reporting errors and timing out - I didn't know (couldn't tell) whether it had accepted it or not (didn't appear to be) so I kept re-trying..

Yeah, like we were supposed to trust you about having no affiliation with Beach Cities IMC? Like we were supposed to trust you about how this techno pissing contest conversation started? That being that you banned someone based on his MAC, when in reality, you just turned off the BC-IMC publishing feature because you were gettin DoSsed.

Yeah, trust him.

Right.

the main gateway - 1987, backup gateway 1989

only 2 of our boxes are > 1999

one of them is a 286 (!) one is a 386, the rest are 486's and 2 are pentiums.

Yes I've taken this into account - I also *swap* CPU's, have a stack of them sitting right here..

Actually, I didnt ban anyone, nor did I "turn off" anything. I dont have any control over Beach Cities IMC. The stupid ass gullible bitch has locked me out of there as well. So now, we OWN the webhost? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What else do we own? Perhaps we own Earthlink and AOL too? AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

> techno pissing contest conversation started

It's not really a contest. And informing *people like you* to help you as a service in dealing with him - to show he's not all knowing and in fact there's people out there where his standard knowledge doesn't even apply, to dispell claims of MAC address tracking and other lies... At least it's a technical discussion rather than just trading insults and name calling. I could go into how I used to build my own logic circuits in the 70's before there even were computers (PC's) and so on... The programming I did. But none of that deals with the subject at hand - which is how safe and secure people are today. I've only addressed the specific concerns on the table.

1.) you only have static MAC's if you use NIC's, otherwise you can change them at will (and sometimes even with NIC's)

2.) MAC's are used for ARP and RARP (this is his secret)

3.) by using proxies and non-static MAC's he *cannot track you* as long as you use a gateway

He's most likely using HTTP headers which you can control (USER_AGENT)

On a technical level you have confirmation that he's not the threat he pretends to be, I happen to specialize in this field...

The fact is, that you must realize by now that Im no "hobbyist" or IT "schill". I am a Systems and Network Engineer. And I dont just have "off the shelf" knowledge either. I will concede that you are technically adept, but then so am I. I very much doubt that any of these morons posting here know ANYTHING about what we are discussing.

By the way, you must consider that your machine, no matter what the architecture (custom or standard) must still use the standard TCP/IP and HTTP protocols to communicate with the internet. the Cisco routers connecting internet nodes will reject any malformed "custom" packets which fall too far outside parameters.

ALL Cisco nodes can be accessed remotely, as you well know.....take it from there.

> I very much doubt that any of these morons posting here know ANYTHING about what we are discussing.

Maybe but I don't consider people who don't have this knowledge to be moronic, after all where or when would they need this info ? I only do due to designing interfaces, curiosity and security. (mostly curiosity) I actually collect TCP/IP stacks... I worry about ARP just as much as any other protocols and know all about things like ICMP tunneling and so on.

The average person allows unrestricted ARP, is non-stealth, allows whatever packets thier OS and app's happen to send, doesn't use proxies, chaining or tunneling and so may be at risk but there's more than one way to interface with the internet and once the gateway is secured all the nodes hiding behind it are pretty secure as long as personally identifiable infomation isn't disclosed...

The gateway is really the key to the whole thing (especially if it tunnels below the IP layer to a different physical location) I've found over the years it's much cheaper and easyer to provide physical links than to fool around with routing and NAT, and proxies are more secure to boot. I don't want to go into too many details but you've seen enough to know this system is immune to all the usual security issues even one's people aren't generally aware of.

What a lame assed moron. If he gets paid a nickel for what he knows, it's too damn much money. I've been to his website, kobehq.com, it's a waste of cyber space. Hey sbm, why don't you take some of that money and six years of schoolin' and go trade them in for some talent. Put some content on yer webpage, assclown. Do something besides sitting there on your fat ass all day threatening people over the internet.

In short, grow the fuck up.

idiot.

(Now, I'll get the "never fuck with a kobe" harangue. Ooooooooo, scary!)

thanks ' Hex anon w/ encryption' although I don;t know half of what you're typing, it's good to know that a certain pompus self appointed expert is only tooting its own horn and is too full of itself.

I thought that being a pompous ass was my job?

You're an idiot.

You faked me on the wrong thread.

Moron.

"thanks ' Hex anon w/ encryption' although I don;t know half of what you're typing, it's good to know that a certain pompus self appointed expert is only tooting its own horn and is too full of itself."

BWAHAHAHA! Its kinda refreshing to read a post from a non-moron who knows his shit. Looks to me like we bothe know hardware AND software. What are you, some A+ certified CompUSA droid? As you can read from the post, nowhere is my knowledge disputed, and nowhere do I dispute Hex's knowledge either.

Why is that knowledge important? Perhaps because when one HAS it, they can command salaries over 100K a year. If ya got it, flaunt it!

Way to hurl those childish insults!!!!

You actually deny you're an idiot and a moron?

It's amazing how people can delude themselves.

The Beach Cities IMC Collective has temporarily lost control of the content of our website.

Our webhost has remained unreachable, and the address where they claim to be located does not exist. Already, BC-IMC is experiencing problems in the IMC Process as a result of the articles appearing center column on this site, as well as commentary being blocked and unusual tracking activities taking place.

It is with great regret that we must actually discourage further exploration of this site until the problems have been resolved. The Beach Cities IMC Collective has put a lot of effort into organizing the site, our meetings, and the formulation of our Mission Statement. All of that work may prove to be a wasted effort if we cannot regain control of our website.

This problem might befall other IMCs who decide to use web hosts instead of owning their own servers and running their own web space. If necessary, BC-IMC will shut down the site temporarily until we can move it to another location. Right now, we are attempting to solve this problem, and perhaps we will meet with members of the Los Angeles Independent Media Center to verify our true mission and our Collective membership.

Please bear with us, and disregard the offensive articles appearing on the newswire.

Sincerely,

Laura Moore

Beach Cities IMC Collective

no one is using your fake IMC sight since the word was put out about it......

Amazing chain of events...



I double-anon mirrored the entire site the other day in case anyone needs evidence or a snapshot of the IMC spoof (which is actionable)

I think I just saw the fake guy outside my window! Does anybody know a good psychiatrist?

THREAD LATEST AUTHOR POSTED AT

More Atrocities (5 comments) nonanarchist 2:22pm Wed Sep 3

It's true ! whois and DNS (85 comments) nonanarchist 2:19pm Wed Sep 3

You posted your fake message 3 minutes before I posted my rather long post.

You're outed, shill.

"You posted your fake message 3 minutes before I posted my rather long post."

And this proves? Don't quit your day job. That is, assuming that you HAVE one.

Unlike yourself.

Time for your shift at the car wash, isn't it?

Get back to work, peon. The urinals need new scent cakes.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I believe this faker is the toliet boy, and unless you can provide a link to a Noam Chomsky writing that says otherwise, I believe it.

You're boring.

The only person who believes you is you.

And that's because you're a moron.

Please argue with your multiple personalities elsewhere.

"I double-anon mirrored the entire site the other day in case anyone needs evidence or a snapshot of the IMC spoof (which is actionable)"



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You cant mirror something you CANNOT ACCESS, okay? KOBE tried to access the backend of the site already, but since PHP is a server side operation, you can only "mirror" the HTML pages that PHP outputs. Dont try to puff up around here. You dont have shit.

You might find a better challenge over at KOBE Headquarters (although cracking it is probably far beyond your abilities) Start at Special Ops. That will also be where you stop, since you will not be able to crack it.

I want to see some of the articles and responses from Beach Cities which do not appear on the Newswire. You wouldnt care to PROVE that you have them, now would you? How about the COMPLETE post you referred to? I dont see it on the newswire.....

know anybody who cares about this fake site?

HaHaHaHa......Ha

See, if you hold the CTRL key and the right ALT key, then hit the SCROLL LOCK key 6 times and click the left mouse button, a secret window will pop up on the screen. There are 5 choices on the menu:

1. Access nuclear launch codes

2. Display access codes for Area 51

3. Teleport to another location

4. Reprogram satellites

and of course,

5. "Double-anon mirror a website"



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I'll try it!

It's not accepting the zip - I renamed it pdf, name it back to zip to open it..

You don't need to play games and be confusing - you know what "mirrored" means - it means my spider grabbed every HTML, every picture, everything it could get and reconstructed the directory structure of the server.

Double anon simply means the spider went through two chained anon proxies (plus a local proxy but that doesn't count)

I zipped this and sent it as soon as I saw your post, I didn't see your post right away because I was busy - something a "0,000 per year 20 year security clearance" person should be, even busyer than me.

That you have all this time to insult people, play games and hide from people doesn't ring true.

Right on kobe sbm's butt.

Your zip contained only the HTML output by the PHP pages which can be accessed by just going to the site. Any hidden or unapproved articles or comments that you CANNOT ACCESS are missing from your file. The Admin interface as well as anything going on in the backend are missing as well. Ho hum. Another lamer trying to puff up.

Spiders and bots must be given permission to "crawl" a site, and their movement is very easily controlled. They can also be "hijacked", and modified to do things they were not supposed to be able to do. KOBE has their own bots which we have designed ourselves.

PHP is a server side operation (this IMC uses it as well) It does a "response write" which is output as an HTML page, but the ACTUAL page is not accessible from the web. Same holds true for ASP (Active Server Pages), and CGI. Perhaps your verbose explanations for "mirroring" BC-IMC with "double-anon" might fool these amateurs here, but not me. My 100K+ annual salary is average for what I do. Senior Systems Engineer with as Masters in Computer Science, an MCSE, CCNE, a CATIA certification, a Solaris Certification and 20 years of experience.

I will grant that you know more than a little about Computers, but your knowledge comes nowhere NEAR mine. You described your machines, your processors and methods, and it appears to me that you are more like a hobbyist whose interest lies in maintaining anonymity and security, as opposed to commanding advanced computing power.

Serious education will give you the knowledge you need to call yourself a "competent" IT guy. Until then, you are just an "enthusiast".

> Your zip contained only the HTML output by the PHP pages which can be accessed by just going to the site. Any hidden or unapproved articles or comments that you CANNOT ACCESS are missing from your file. The Admin interface as well as anything going on in the backend are missing as well. Ho hum. Another lamer trying to puff up.



Anything more would be improper access (hacking) and the intent is to show that "beachcitiesimc" STOLE and SPOOFED Ireland's software, the file listings and TIMESTAMPS are ample proof of that. I will not be goaded into hacking this or anyother site.



> Spiders and bots must be given permission to "crawl" a site, and their movement is very easily controlled. They can also be "hijacked", and modified to do things they were not supposed to be able to do. KOBE has their own bots which we have designed ourselves.

It has settings which allow it to IGNORE bot rules and IMPERSONATE a standard browser of my choosing - if you had checked Teleport Pro you would know that, but you can SEE in the zip that it did in fact crawl areas it's not supposed to (the main reason for restricting this is to prevent excessive traffic for "dumb" requests like redundant searches)

Most of the time I honor the limitations as to not be rude but in this case I did have it grab everything possible, even what it could violating this rule.



> PHP is a server side operation (this IMC uses it as well) It does a "response write" which is output as an HTML page, but the ACTUAL page is not accessible from the web. Same holds true for ASP (Active Server Pages), and CGI. Perhaps your verbose explanations for "mirroring" BC-IMC with "double-anon" might fool these amateurs here, but not me. My 100K+ annual salary is average for what I do. Senior Systems Engineer with as Masters in Computer Science, an MCSE, CCNE, a CATIA certification, a Solaris Certification and 20 years of experience.

I am aware of all this - that's why I asked you to NOT try confusing people (and the issue). You can SEE the original PHP filenames but I told it to re-name everything to not only HTML but MSIE style HTM as well. There's no "fooling" going on - I did exactly what I said I did - mirrored the site grabbing everything I could as evidence. Nothing more and nothing less.

Double anon also means exactly what I said - through 2 chained in-the-wild anonymous proxies, again nothing more or less.



> I will grant that you know more than a little about Computers, but your knowledge comes nowhere NEAR mine. You described your machines, your processors and methods, and it appears to me that you are more like a hobbyist whose interest lies in maintaining anonymity and security, as opposed to commanding advanced computing power.

Serious education will give you the knowledge you need to call yourself a "competent" IT guy. Until then, you are just an "enthusiast".



Actually our knowledge lies in *different areas* - I clearly know more about security/anonymity and hardware since that's what I specialize in, your areas are software. We have overlapping knowledge in *some* aspects of hardware however your knowledge is standard - simply inserting cards and plugging in cords of off-the-shelf hardware whereas my hardware knowledge extends far beyond that to board level repairs (including motherboards) and specifically *design* and implimentation of original hardware with all the detailed low-level knowledge that goes along with it.

I am not ashamed to admit I don't know squat about the specific software applications and systems you took classes for - I can barely run an apache server for example, and the only programming I did was BASIC years ago on "playtoy" machines, however in my enviroment I don't NEED such knowledge. You have not seen me argue or disagree on any claims you've made along those lines other then when I clairified some minor details (like with Teleport Pro above) you were un-aware of.

Just as I can't explain aspects of your fields you can't explain original hardware you've never seen that I've built. In security/anonymity I've worked out methods like chaining 6 proxies (I could chain more but 6 is enough) that I bet you still don't understand even though I explained exactly how I do it and what software I used.

(2 instances of HTTPort both running under SOCKScap both pointing to SOCKS proxies, with one of the HTTP proxies being tunneling and so counting as 2 otherwise it would be 5 chained)

Here's your chance to prove you know as much as me even in security/anonymity - show people in your own words the "flow" involved, the details of how this arrangement yields (technically 5) chained proxies.

We don't even need to question hardware I've built that you've never seen, as there's no way you COULD know about it. Since such hardware is part of our network and is a key part of the security, the usual rules that you enumerated don't even apply - as I pointed out. You were going on the assumption that I was using standard off-the-self hardware, not original hardware operating below the IP level.

The chaining is tricky though, let's see you lay out the links and method (data flow) with the software I'm using and see how smart you really are.

I can provide URL's for HTTPort and SOCKScap if you need them..

> commanding advanced computing power



Yeah this is really "advanced" ;



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I never said I was an "IT guy". looking above I'm glad I'm not. You know if my hardware was anywhere near as unreliable as your "advanced" software is, I'd be dead.

But please do - amaze us with your "advanced" knowledge and show how I chain 6 proxies using only HTTPort & SOCKScap

Fortunately, SERIOUS sites run on Windows, not on Linux. Beach Cities would never give such errors (because it lives on a Windows 2003 Server). As I said before, KOBE does not own that site. We DO, however, know the webmaster of the web server.

"Anything more would be improper access (hacking) and the intent is to show that "beachcitiesimc" STOLE and SPOOFED Ireland's software, the file listings and TIMESTAMPS are ample proof of that. I will not be goaded into hacking this or any other site. "

CHUCKLE.

One cannot STEAL Open Source software which is "Copylefted". The rather simple Oscailt software package is plug and play. Setup takes less than 15 minutes. Nobody spoofed anything at all. Changes made to Open Source software are permitted under the GNU license, but then again, you need more education to know that. Im most curious about what you say is "actionable". AS IF! Exactly what kind of "action" do you think you can take? BWAHAHAHAHAH!

Amateur.

- amaze us with your "advanced" knowledge and show how I chain 6 proxies using only HTTPort & SOCKScap

You said you have *far more knowledge* than I do, showing how I did this should be effortless for you.

The webmaster at Ireland IMC wasn't too thrilled about "beachcitiesimc" which isn't even a real IMC using his software and in fact stated the statement about the cookies was FALSE (among other things)

But that's beside the point, let's see some of the advanced knowledge that makes you explaining how I chain proxies effortless as you know FAR more than me...

"See, none of the stuff you have written is correct, and KOBE has no associations with Computers NLA. What Stevie has done is to attack an innocent target, which happens to be a retail establishment. Wanna know which law covers what he has done? It will sound familiar:"

http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/judiciary/hju59932.000/hju59932_0.HTM

"That's right...the RICO Act. But it ACTUALLY applies in this case because your attack was against an establishment which is in retail business."

This would be a SLAPP suit, then, cart00ney boy. It is an abuse of the legal system. I don't really care about this all that much, other than the fact that I believe the same people are behind the recent forged-sender spam joe-job, which I got caught up in for seemingly random reasons - I'm not even an activist. Anyway, it says a lot about KOBE that you specifically intend to target and destroy people through whatever means possible. Kinda anarchist of you, really. Pathetic, though; as someone said you're spending a lot of energy on nothing, though you practically seem to get off on it.