So, what are you going to do?

You cannot avoid it any longer. You cannot pretend it did not happen. You cannot wish it away. It's real.

The President of the United States lied to start a war.

Under our system of laws, only Congress has the authority to send our troops off to war. The 30 days granted to the President under the War Powers Act were long exhausted from the ongoing bombing raids in Iraq when Congress did pass a bill authorizing military intervention in Iraq shortly after 9-11. However, that bill authorized military force only under certain conditions. One of those conditions was that President Bush had to prove that Saddam Hussein was in violation of UN Resolution 1441 calling for the removal of all weapons of mass destruction.

So, prior to launching the invasion of Iraq, Bush stated to the Congress and to the world that he did have proof that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. Not only did Bush make that claim, but so did Colin Powell. So did Tony Blair. And citing the authority previously granted to him by the Congress, Bush waged war on Iraq. And Iraq fell. Easily.

Too easily.

Unlike Desert Storm 1, there was no sky filled with fireworks-bright anti-aircraft fire to oppose the bombers over Baghdad. Iraq turned out not only to not be a threat to anyone else, it turned out not to be able to mount a serious defense against invasion.

Contrary to the assurances of Bush and Blair, there were no chemical or biological weapons used to defend Iraq even as it gasped its last breath as an independent sovereign nation. The only nuclear weapons used were the depleted uranium weapons showered all over Iraq by the invaders. Just as no weapons of mass destruction were found by the United Nations prior to the invasion, and no weapons of mass destruction were deployed during the invasion, no weapons of mass destruction have been discovered since the invasion. Every site claimed to harbor weapons of mass destruction turned out upon closer inspection to be harmless. Every piece of equipment loudly ballyhooed each morning as proof of Saddam's perfidy was inevitably proven benign by nightfall. Even the trailers, proclaimed to be mobile biological weapons labs (even though devoid of both germs, and the special handling equipment needed for such work) turned out to be industrial tools.  No weapons of mass destruction. No remains of weapons of mass destruction. Nothing. Saddam was not in defiance of UN Resolution 1441. Even the UN weapons team agrees on this. And if Iraq was not in defiance of UN Resolution 1441, then the Congressional authorization for military action in Iraq was not in effect. Bush did not have legal authority to invade. Bush misappropriated the US military, without congressional approval, for an illegal war. A criminal war.

I imagine that all those poor fools who stood besides Bush have to be feeling pretty stupid right now. Bush used them, just like Stalin used his "useful idiots", to serve his personal agenda. Fools and cowards; that is how history will remember those who fell for Bush's lies.

Of course, Bush had help with the lie. Cheney helped pressure the CIA to go along with the lie. Colin Powell spoke the lie to the United Nations, backed up by a 12 year-old stolen student thesis and outdated photographs, punctuated for drama with a glass vial of (we hope) talcum powder. Blair helped the lie. Clear Channel not only helped with the lie, it paid for the parties for the above-mentioned useful idiots. O'Reilly helped the lie. So did Rush. So did Savage. So did a lot of other people.  You know who you are.

The people of the United States were lied to in order to start a war. It doesn't matter what may be found or planted in Iraq from now on, the unquestionable fact is that at the time that Bush and Blair claimed to have proof of Iraq's WMDs, they did not. They had stolen student papers, outdated photos, talcum powder, and a lot of wishful thinking. They lied. Nothing can change that. Not only did they lie, but they did so intentionally and with premeditation. Cheney pressured the CIA to alter their report to support the claim of WMDs. Blair sent British Intelligence's report back for revisions at least once and possibly as many as six times.

So, what are you going to do?

Are you going to live in a nation governed by lies? Will you spend the rest of your life knowing your mind is being controlled by those who control what you know, who lie, conceal, spin, twist, and disinform so that you will come to the conclusions the liars want you to come to? Mind control isn't some science fiction machine, it is simply controlling the brain by controlling what it knows or believes. By lying.

Is a war necessary? How can you know that it is if you live under a government that lies?

Is the death of a politician really a suicide, or a "lone assassin"? How can you know that it is if you live under a government that lies?

Is the amendment that authorizes the income tax properly ratified? How can you know that it is if you live under a government that lies?

Are elections fair and honest? How can you know that they are if you live under a government that lies?

Are living conditions really better here than anywhere else on Earth? How can you know that they are if you live under a government that lies?

Were Arabs really behind 9-11? How can you know that they were if you live under a government that lies?

And you do. You do live under a government that lies to you. Bush just proved it.

So, what are you going to do?

We stand at a crossroads. The head-of-state of the most powerful nation on Earth has been caught justifying a war of conquest with fraud and deception. We, as the people of that nation, have a moral duty to remove that head-of-state, and indeed all who helped in that lie. We have a duty to leave a better government to our children than that which was left to us, and the very first thing we must do is remove government officials who would lie to us, and to our children, especially to send them off to die in wars.

The Constitution of the United States does not explicitly authorize the government to lie to the people. Check it yourself; it is not in there. And the Tenth Amendment prohibits the government from assuming that authority. Therefore, under the Constitution, every politician who lies acts unconstitutionally and illegally. When the lie becomes institutional, when the government leadership as a whole lies to the people, then the government itself is unconstitutional and illegal. A government that lies to the people breaks faith with the people. A government that lies to the people loses the moral right to rule.

Therefore, the Congress also stands at a crossroad. It cannot legitimize the lies of Bush without delegitimizing itself. Congress cannot pretend to trust a lying President and keep the trust of the voters and taxpayers. Congress cannot acquit the liars without incriminating themselves. But Congress are habitual liars themselves and often admire the skill with which other officials can lie to the people and be believed. They will need "encouragement" to do the right thing.

I know that you are all discouraged because the war in Iraq happened despite the huge peace demonstrations you all put together. But you need to take a deep breath and get ready to rock again. Those demonstrations you all did laid the foundation for what must be done now. Those demonstrations showed the rest of America and the world that there has always been doubt of the legitimacy of this war. No longer can the mainstream media pretend that opposition to the war and to Bush's lies comes from only a tiny minority, too small to matter. And the recent election results in other countries that saw pro-war candidates soundly defeated have sent a message to Capitol Hill that being pro-war is a serious liability going into 2004's election season. Vote-rigging can change a slim percentage but it cannot reverse a landslide.

So here is the call to phone, to keyboards, to FAX, and yes, to protest signs. Next week are the start of hearings into the lies about Iraqi WMDs. YOU need to let your congressmen know in no uncertain terms that they either get rid of the liars, or get a new job. Focus on the congressmen up for re-election in 2004 and let them know that how they deal with the liar in the White House will be the sole deciding factor in whether you will vote for them next election. Remind them of the pronounced anti-war trend sweeping elections world-wide.

Rest assured that the warhawks have their phone banks running full tilt boogie to try and get Dubya off of the hook. If you do not phone, FAX, or visit, Congress will abrogate its duty and write the liars who lied to start a war a get-out-of-jail free card.

It's up to you. History will judge our nation on what actions you take or do not take in the coming week.

Congressional contact info is at www.congress.org.

...are unacceptable. They are not merely unacceptable they are CRIMINAL. There is no other word that fits the actions of Bush and his minions. They have lied, stolen, and murdered. These are the actions of a Criminal. They are not behavior that is acceptable in a President of the United States.

We are at a Crossroads. Down one avenue is a fight to reclaim the freedom which our ancestors tried to pass on to us. Down the other lies a tyranny and a nightmare of endless war and conquest; death, destruction, and slavery.

The hour is late but we have not passed beyond hope. We have not passed beyond the point where we are powerless to do something about it.

So, what are you going to do?

Doing nothing is a choice. It is a coward's choice but it is a choice.

Doing something requires a little bit of courage.

So, what are you going to do?



“If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may be even a worse fate. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

-- Sir Winston Churchill

"They are not merely unacceptable they are CRIMINAL."

Please tell us what these crimes are EXACTLY.

Thank you.

funny to have picked winston churchil to quote...l a man who would have been right behind bush..

in fact would probably have made bush look like a pacifist.

"the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political

independence" of any state is illegal. And that is not all: In the Nuremberg trials of Nazi leaders, "preemptive war" was explicitly

treated as a war crime.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/International_War_Crimes/Bush_War_Criminal.html

curious..

england and france declared war on germany not the other way around.. so the preemptive war as a war crime makes practically everyone guilty.

I think you might be misinterpreting them.. but anyway Nurenburg was obviously just a show trial.

""the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political

independence" of any state is illegal."

Utter nonsense.

Are you actually saying that any and ALL military force is "illegal".

Nonsense. Furthermore, in as much as legality even enters into this, which, frankly, it doesn't, any and all military action against Iraq was justified from the moment Iraq broke the terms of the ceasefire after '91. The moment they fired on coalition forces patrolling the agreed to no-fly zones, all military action was justified.

You're flat out wrong.

So, please, the FIRST example of Bush's criminality.

Upon whose agreement? The rule of might makes right?

Please list the UN mandate that established the forbidden

air space (unless it was to facilitate kurdish massacre)

or maybe they meant just fixed wing aircraft.

Enough said.

(1) Lying to the American people.

(2) Violating the sovereignty of another member of the United Nations without provocation and without the backing of the UN.

(3) Violation of his oath of office. Anyone that signed the PATRIOT Act should be put on trial for treason and, if found guilty, receive the maximum punishment.

(4) Corruption: Awarding contracts for rebuilding Iraq in an illegal and non-competitive fashion, primarily to his buddies.

(5) Failure to heed warnings from the CIA and FBI concerning the threat of terrorist attacks during the summer of 2001. The consequence this failure was the murder of 3000 Americans.

...whatcha gonna do about it?

Looks like you ahve a few options.

1. Contact your elected representatives and give them this information. Wait for their lightning-quick reaction to the news.

2. Wait until the '04 election for a Democrat to be elected. As if...

3. Armed revolt.

If you choose #3, please let me know so I can draw a weapon in time to shoot you.

I've read a lot of dumb posts on Indymedia, but I do believe the one by "@" just above has to be the dumbest of all.

How could anyone be that self deluded. It must be a tongue in cheek attempt at humor Saturday Night Live style.

First of all, GWB is not a liar. That was his predecessor.

Secondly, he had suffiicient UN support for the action undertaken in Iraq. But that doesn't mean that the USA should ever bow and become subservient to the UN. The day that happens will be a very sad day indeed. Go tell the mothers of all the dead people in those mass Iraqi graves that Bush violated Iraqi sovereignty.

The PATRIOT act is just a step in the right direction, and away from the politically correct insanity that the liberal left has attempted to foist off on us for years. Those Guantanamo terrorists are exactly where they ought to be. That other terrorist, Zacarias Massoui, ought to be there too.

There has been no evidence of any corruption in awarding of Iraq post war contracts. That's pure liberal fantasy, just like the fantasy that this was about oil. The one thing we reconfirmed from the war protest is that liberals still have their heads up their collective assess just as they always have.

And of course your fifth point is even more ridiculous than the other four (I know it's hard to believe that anything could be more ridiculous than your first four points, but this one is).

Clinton lied about a blow job. His lies applied to his personal life. Bush has lied to get us into a war, killing thousands of people unprovoked, sending US soldiers into harms way, and violating international law.

I must say, Bush Admirerer, that your posts are the most moronic I've seen on IndyMedia.

...jumped to the task of preaching defeatism, defending the lies, and proving that they operate from an agenda other than what is in the interests of justice.

frescaw blathers it total, intentional, non-comprehension.

Bush Asskisser expounds from total oblivion as usual.

Davie jumps to the defense of a known liar, murderer, and cheat.

Know you these are your enemies. They are the enemies of your freedom. They are the voices of those who would affix the chains of bondage to you. They are not your friends, they are not friends to the historic freedoms of this nation. By their words they declare themselves the servants of the Slavemaster. They are the voice of Vidkun Quisling, Benedict Arnold, and Joeseph Goebbels. They are the voice of every sycophantic belly scraping worm down through the annals of history. They like all lesser vermin are sadly always with us. However, their numbers are small, the lies pitiful, and their voice weak. Weak? Yes, because there is always one weapon which they cannot defend against - the truth, and the truth is a powerful weapon.

Spread the word, spread the truth. There is no time for "I told you so's" - this only angers people and makes them deaf to your message; assert it plainly and boldly without rancor aimed at the person you are speaking. to. Many will not listen, but if you approach them in a spirit of good will many will hear you out. Stir the Kettle.

"The Tree of Liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants."

-- Patrick Henry

"I swear before the altar of Almighty God eternal enmity against all forms of tyranny over the mind of man."

-- Thomas Jefferson

Consider SBM's constant reference to money, being served, and privilage. His implication is that if you sell out to the dictator, you will personally be rewarded, provided you are spineless and have nothing of intellectual or political value to add to the world. SBM is just the kind of person that would have aided Hitler in perfecting the gas chambers that murdered Jews. He will deny this, but he himself has stated and the post has been show where he expresses his desire to build concentration camps and to personally volunteer to build them.

when you go off on one of your over-dramatic rants do you hear glorious music in your head and feel a soap-box under your feet. I mean come on that last one was so sappy it looked like a parody of an inspiring speech. The "...these are your enemies....know thyne enemy" had me shooting soda out of my nose. I guess i'm one of you of your "enemies" because I think your a drama queen. But, i'm not too upset because if I had to choose an enemy from the world at-large it would probably be you. Why? because your a pansy.

I doubt seriously that ANY of your targets, Bush Sucker, are receiving "free meals" or living off of the state. Those that are being funded by the state are those useless wanks working for the DoD who suck our treasury dry producing useless toys for brain damaged pricks like Rumsfeld and Poindexter.

Bush himself lives in public housing, sucks our budget dry for self glorifying landings on aircraft carriers, while fat assed corporate parasites line Bush's pockets with cash in exchange for additional support in enslaving the workers that make them rich.

Your turn is coming. We're not going to sit back and let our country be sold down the hopper by a bunch of selfish pricks like yourself.

these are the idiots who would follow the quick term profit

and be the judas goat counting their pieces of silver while the fools who believed their lies were led onto the killing

floor.

Part of the terms of the ceasefire that Sadam agreed to in '91 was the establisment of no-fly zones.

So, under SADAM's authority, among other's, these zones were created.

And you know that. Your feigning ignorance is transparent and ridiculous.

"frescaw blathers it total, intentional, non-comprehension. "

...continues to prove every fantasy of Dio's et.al. a lie.

Still waiting for some example's of this criminality you speak of.

The war example was a bust.

Keep going.

why shrub etal screamed on&on about wmd, in hand. and not the more truthful, "they may getim an' git isril r'US!! sheeeeezus!! (sides d'oil now bo's)

...favored tactics.

Disregard the article and any substance.

Pose an irrelevant question.

Act as though it just invented the wheel.

Hope that you don't notice that it has not addressed the issue to hand.

BUSH LIED.

BUSH COMMITTED WAR CRIMES.

BUSH IS IN TREASON AGAINST THE U.S. CONSTITUTION.

CONGRESS WILL NOT ACT UNLESS WE APPLY PRESSURE.

KEEP SPREADING THE TRUTH THAT frescaw dare not address: BUSH LIED.

Bush used the U.S. Military to Conquer another Nation for his and his Cronies benefit only.

We wouldn't want to waste our tax dollars investigated something important like oh say, WAR CRIMES! But we can dam sure waste millions with false lawsuites about white water and MC Carthy like investigations about Clintons Sex Life

FRESCA heres some examples just off the top

1. how about the use of cluster bombs in residential neighborhoods! Do you have any idea what happens to little kids when they pick them up.

2.Intentionally bombing AL Jazera, you may not agree with there journalism but I'm pretty sure the US knew what theywere shooting at.

3.Shelling the Al Rasheed hotel in bagdahad killing two more journalist.

4.The bomb that killed all the people in the market in Bagdad

5.The compltete distruction of the infastructure of Iraq including the looting of the musem while our troops stood by and watched.

Caducada, your pwesident LIED to drag this country into a war, and all you can say is "What crimes were committed?"?

You really are a piece of shit...

...it's IMPEACHMENT TIME!!!!

Impeachment time was during the previous administration KPC, not this one.

And the 'Bush Lied' poster directly above needs to start reading real news outlets so he can get his facts straight. For instance:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2971882.stm

If I had to characterize the lefties who post here regularly in two words, I'd say they're "Always Wrong."

Go ahead. How you gonna start?

Have a demonstration?

Chant?

Bang drums?

Enlist the aid of Constitutional law experts like Martin Sheen and Janine Garafolo?

Crap and puke in the street?

Or all of the above?

Can't wait for this!

Daveman - I think they could possibly get a couple of votes to impeach Bush, maybe one vote in the Senate and another vote in the House.

Senator Byrd is a good bet. He's obviously lost it.

And Congresswoman Maxine Waters has been off her rocker from the get go.

I think that's about it for impeachment votes. Most of the other liberals wouldn't want to look so foolish with elections coming up.

Looks like your talk of impeachment is "a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

On to the next irrelevancy!

...is up to one of his favorite old tricks:

Preached defeatism.

Give up, don't fight.

Succumb.

Defeat is inevitable.

Don't even try.

Recognize it for what it is: PSYOPS.

The whole point is to destroy your morale and make you not want to fight.

After all that is what his masters pay him to do.

The Bush people are getting frantic.

It has become obvious to anyone other than a complete numbskull or a paid agent that BUSH LIED.

They want it to go away. They don't want people to continue to ask more awkward questions.

Make them uncomfortable.

Keep asking the awkward questions.

Demand answers.

Make noise - lots of it.

Don't let up; that's what BA would like you to do.

Let's disappoint him - BIGTIME.

Wrong Dio -- I like it quite a bit when the left makes absurd statements, further discrediting themselves in the process. Some of my favorites are "Impeach Bush - he lied," "No War For Oil," "9/11 was a Mossad/CIA operation," etc.

Statements of this type immediately categorize the person making the statement as irrational and not credible.

So keep it up. I like it!

You even know that you are wrong. You post here only because it has become your job. There is nothing absurd or irrational in analyzing the evidence and drawing the logical conclusions. There is a ton evidence supporting Mossad involvement in 9/11.

How do you explain the Mossad agents that posed as Israeli Art students visiting Defense Contractors and Government Offices before 9/11, shadowing al-Qaeda, and Israel's history of not providing the US with critical intelligence that would stop terrorist attacks (such as the Marine Barraks bombing in Beruit)?

You rely upon the fact that the media is in Israel's pocket to push forth the illusion that if a position is not endorsed by the media, it must be irrational. The Weapons of Mass Destruction claims by Bush were endorsed by the media and they have now proved to be LIES. We have no reason to consider the corporate media as a standard by which rationality should be based.

Yes, Bush Admirer, you may be able to convince the majority of brainwashed Americans that you are correct, but one does not need a majority to bring a fascist dictatorship down. One needs only a committed minority. All major revolutions have been fought by minorities, this includes the American Revolution, the Russian Revolution, the Cuban Revolution and so on.

Reply to @ -- Maybe you could enlist Fidel Castro as your leader @. He's got experience and knows how to organize and lead your type of revolution. He's better looking and cleaner than most of your guys too.

Too bad he no longer has Che to help out. Maybe you could spring Mumia to fill Che's role. Mumia just looks the part and boy does he ever know how to fling bullshit with the best of them.

Whenever you do get your revolution up and running, I'm going to start collecting old cars. They'll become valuable, just as they have in Cuba.

Reply to @ -- Maybe you could enlist Fidel Castro as your leader @. He's got experience and knows how to organize and lead your type of revolution. He's better looking and cleaner than most of your guys too.

Too bad he no longer has Che to help out. Maybe you could spring Mumia to fill Che's role. Mumia just looks the part and boy does he ever know how to fling bullshit with the best of them.

Whenever you do get your revolution up and running, I'm going to start collecting old cars. They'll become valuable, just as they have in Cuba.

We have no desire to copy Castro.

Save yourself the bother and simply rent the movie Mad Max starring Mel Gibson.

That movie gives an accurate portrayal of Anarchism as it would play out if ever tried.

Of course, it never will be adopted by civilized society so not to worry.

Anarchism only appeals to a tiny fringe element that's pretty much like the bad guys in the Mel Gibson movie.

...ideal representaion of the society you desire is...uh...

Could you refresh my memory? I can't seem to think of a single successful, large-scale anarchist society.

A CONSTITUTIONAL Republic for a change - with Government limited to a very small role?

You know - the LIMITED and CONSTRAINED role envisioned by the Founding Fathers.

...the Democrats'll never let that come about.

Good idea on limited government Dio.

I'd suggest we start by cutting 50% of government jobs and 50% of taxes. We could cancel all entitlement programs and eliminate income transfer payments by the government. Let the people who earn the money keep their money.

Great idea Dio.

We do need the Feds to do a few things like building interstate highways, maintaining a strong military and law enforcement capability, a strong intelligence service, etc.

But we can shut down social services completely. We can shut down whole departments starting with the Department of Labor.

Hey, I'm starting to like this plan of your Dio.

...=assmole on the govt payroll payed to spam dissent on indy 24/7 with pure hogwash.

bush as criminal terrorist traitor and 911 coconspirator:

-911 airforce standdown:

http://emperorsclothes.com

-insider trading prior to 911

http://www.copvcia.com

aa77 never hit the pentagon

Thierry Meyssan,The Appalling Fraud,also at

http://www.reseauvoltaire.com

Adrian More's 911 essays.

just for starters.

I know it's hard to shoehorn into your tiny skull the facts that people can look at the same information and come to different conclusions as you, and that people who disagree with you are not being paid by the government to do so, but you're just gonna have to deal with it.

Or don't. I don't care; you sinking into your own personal miasma of hate and paranoia is of absolutely no concern to me.

Have a nice day!

is that all you got to say "daveman"? can't bush afford a slightly less retarded indy spammer?

I know it's tough to shoehorn into your tiny skull the facts that people may look at the same data as you and come to different conclusions, and that people who disagree with you are not being paid by the government to do so, but you're just gonna have to deal with it.

Or don't; I really don't care. You sinking into your own personal miasma of hatred and paranoia is of absolutley no concern to me.

Besides, the arrogance that says your way is the only possible way, and that anyone who disagrees cannot be doing so freely, is simply incredible.

Have a nice day!

Let's walk in and see what they're doing? We just might find them posting here.

Can't stay long and soo much nonsense form the usual suspects.

I'll only get to respond to this gem...



"1. how about the use of cluster bombs in residential neighborhoods! Do you have any idea what happens to little kids when they pick them up.

2.Intentionally bombing AL Jazera, you may not agree with there journalism but I'm pretty sure the US knew what theywere shooting at.

3.Shelling the Al Rasheed hotel in bagdahad killing two more journalist.

4.The bomb that killed all the people in the market in Bagdad

5.The compltete distruction of the infastructure of Iraq including the looting of the musem while our troops stood by and watched. "



So this is what you have as far as crimes.

This is your list of Bush's crimes.

You fools.

Get your head outa your collective asses.

You've just listed some of the defining characteristics of war in general.

You all have nothing and you know it.

I'm out now. But rest assured I'll be thinking of you idiots from time to time.

And, oh Dio, make no mistake.

The Arab hordes were definitely trying to annihilate Israel in '67.

Read your history.

End the arab occupation of Israel!!

We have been keeping a special eye on that Dio and KPC due to them clearly being the last two people left on the left who can stand in the way of oour global domination. We have been using spy cameras built into their computers as well as others around their houses and on their prsonal property.

really the only place that would be safe from us is if they hid naked under their beds and got chineese food delivered directly to the bed.

I hope they dont figure it out!!

Report to the KOBE clubhouse immediately. I'm in need of a golden shower.

www.kobehq.com

Put a mint tea leaf in that golden shower, please.

but I am glad you threw the silly hat away!

Let me squeese it!!!! There.... better?

YUCK!

You NEED to bend over, you cum dumpster.

www.kobehq.com

...the thread with a little dose of disgusting Spam eh? Go ahead and wave that Red Flag.

What we need is a Justice System -period. What we have now is a very corrupt Legal System. The two are not equivalent.

A sound Justice System would be of benefit to all.

However, to correct it we must first make more people aware of the exact failings and how to correct it.

They are really quite simple:

Corrupt Judges.

A reliance on "Precedent" as opposed to what the Constitution and the Law actually says.

Corrupt Politicians passing laws of benefit to their constituencies as opposed to the nation as a whole.

Laws that attempt to regulate morality and non-intrusive, but possibly deleterious to the individual, behavior - such as Abortion and the so-called "War on Drugs", or any other such. Those are just two prominent examples.

There are other things but these are a start. The fundamentals.

However the issue right now is that we need to push heavily for the Impeachment of that Bastard Murderer Bush.

BUSH LIED, CHILDREN DIED. It is really that simple.

How to bring the justice back to the system.

That is the question we must ask and answere before any of these mass

murders and war criminals are delt with properly. We have a fascist co-dependent law system here. How about a sunlight provision for the juries

in order to allow full content of evidence without court 'instructions'.

Law by Jury as it was intended.

before it breaks.

We need an atourney general who actually prosecutes criminals instead of being the 'legal' arm of embeded power. Face it, these things have got this current construct, doing tricks the circus never heard of with our constitution.

...the "Legal Community" does not like to talk about is Jury Rights. And a Juror does have rights but they are rarely informed of them unless they have done their own homework.

One of those rights is "Jury Nullification" wherein the Jury may, at it's discretion, return a Not Guilty Verdict which is contrary to the Written Law i.e., return a Not Guilty Verdict when someone has violated an unjust law. This is rarely done, I believe, only because more people are not informed of their right to do this.

Ashcroft is a Criminal in High Office and should be, charged, convicted, and put away for the rest of his natural life. Won't happen with the current corrupt Junta but it would be Just.

"Ashcroft is a Criminal in High Office and should be, charged, convicted, and put away for the rest of his natural life."

For what, pray tell, would he be his crime?

Jesus you're a drama queen.

This is fun.

Bush Admirer (and allies), I admire your patience. Your foes here are the people who you used to see mumbling nonsense to themselves as they walked down the sidewalk. Now they have the Internet and have formed a community of delusional paranoids. Dangerous stuff. They feed upon each other and begin to think that their delusions are real.

In any event, you are doing a public service by exposing their nonsense.

Cheers!

For starters False arrest and illegal detention of Jose Padilla - who while he may be a scumbag has legal rights to Counsel, Charges Placed before a Court, and a Trial by Jury. None of which he has been given. All in direct violation of the Constitution Reichsfuhrer Ashcroft raised his corrupt hand and gave an oath to uphold.

Violation of the Constitution in illegally violating the 4th and 5th Amendments they are part of what is known as the Bill of Rights. Of course Reichsfuhrer Ashcrap seems to have neither Knowledg nor Respect for the Constitution. Not qualities you want in an Attorney General.

I could go on but you clowns are just playing your usual shithead games of trying to divert and discredit.

Thier the Ones who declare the War

Your the Ones that fight thier Cause

They pull the trigger on thier guns

We Die-- they have Fun

Die For Your Government

Believe in US

The Government decides thier on the Prowl

Cant have all these bodies lying around

They pull the triggers on thier Guns we die

They have fun

Die for your Government

Believe

IN US!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bush guilty of war crimes? what are you stupid, the US won the war!

No victor has ever been put on trial for war crimes, regardless of their guilt. Don't like it, well too bad, that's international law, which has never protected anyone, yet we hold it so dear.

"...the US won the war!"

Unsubstantiated Allegation.

"For starters False arrest and illegal detention of Jose Padilla - who while he may be a scumbag has legal rights to Counsel, Charges Placed before a Court, and a Trial by Jury. None of which he has been given. All in direct violation of the Constitution Reichsfuhrer Ashcroft raised his corrupt hand and gave an oath to uphold.

Violation of the Constitution in illegally violating the 4th and 5th Amendments they are part of what is known as the Bill of Rights. Of course Reichsfuhrer Ashcrap seems to have neither Knowledg nor Respect for the Constitution. Not qualities you want in an Attorney General.

I could go on but you clowns are just playing your usual shithead games of trying to divert and discredit.

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A) I'm sure you can go on. Your ability to fabricate bullshit is limitless.

B) the Padilla fantasy is just that. There is obviously no False arrest or illegal imprisonment. Everthing that's happened to that animal has been legal. What's more, you KNOW that.

Just more bullshit from our resident drama queen.

I don't particularly like or dislike Ashcroft, but I hate lies and you're systematic use of known innacurate info is coming damn close to outright lying.

It's sorta just pathetic.

'what an awful jackass'
is that why you're here, to foul the board with your vicious ignorant spray?

still in denial eh debate coach?

Or well its much better than adimting your wrong!

who exactly did win? Where's that high paying new job? Look in the want adds. Telemarketers are big now. Lots of minimum wage low skill, no
benifit jobs that cost more money to commute to than you can afford. No time
with the children in a city that has no programs because the services are broken or closed. So far, I've only seen capital flight to people now getting these tax cuts. This is a silent war and the losers are most of us.

Average person, "capital flight" is what happens when the capital leaves the country. This money is being returned to the people who paid the taxes.

You don't see any economic improvement since the end of the war? Look at oil prices. Look at stock prices. These are indicators that an average person can look at to quickly gauge the health of the economy.

Economies run in cycles. A slowdown in the slowdown is a good thing. It will turn around. It always has.