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by Neo-Neo
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 7:03 PM
Way to go Indy... "open publishing" allows various jerks to post porno images, racist tirades, and genuine anti-Jewish trash like the "Protocals of the Elders of Zion " (the tract used by the Nazis)... the result?
Well, for one, Google has now banned Indy from their search engines. Keep up your policy of "open publishing" and soon all the other search engines will ban you as well.
I don't want Indy to be in total isolation from the rest of the web community... why not clean up the newswire. I'm tired of the infantile anarchist playground politics that say doing so is "censorship" and "against free speech."
The whole point of Indy is to allow activists and independent thinkers a place to interact with others. If you allow your enemies to undermine you by allowing ANYTHING to be posted... then slowly you will be isolated and cut off from those who should know about and use the platform. The fact that Google has banned Indy points to this... and it is only the beginning.
Google News has confirmed they have removed Indymedia from their list of news sources. Google bowed to pressure brought upon them by an email campaign organized by people who disagree with some of what gets posted under IndyMedia's policy of allowing anyone to post to the newswire, and not exerting editorial control.
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire.
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by Sheepdog
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 8:20 PM
I wonder how that ever happened. If it happened. There's always AltaVista and a group of other engines. Screw em.
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by daveman
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 9:20 PM
...is NOT banned from the Google search engine.
For instance, type "Zionazi" into Google search. The first two hits are IndyMedia.
However, IM is not a news souce searched by Google News. There are a couple "news" stories there still, but they will filter out as time goes by.
And that's as it should be. IM has no editorial policy, no managing editor...it's a BBS, that's all. Most "news" stories are C&Ped from other sources...not all of which are legitmate news outlets themselves.
"People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire."
No, people claim IM is anti-Semitic (me, I prefer "Jew haters") because of hateful posts by the regulars...not the "trolls".
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by Jews get away with the most outrageous lies
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 11:52 PM
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire.
WHO CARES.
If the Jews can't argue their position so that most people believe it, then their position is assuredly wrong.
Censorship is very bad, as it allows people (especially the Jews) to get away with the most outrageous lies.
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by Jews get away with the most outrageous lies
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 11:52 PM
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire.
WHO CARES.
If the Jews can't argue their position so that most people believe it, then their position is assuredly wrong.
Censorship is very bad, as it allows people (especially the Jews) to get away with the most outrageous lies.
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by Jews get away with the most outrageous lies
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 11:52 PM
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire.
WHO CARES.
If the Jews can't argue their position so that most people believe it, then their position is assuredly wrong.
Censorship is very bad, as it allows people (especially the Jews) to get away with the most outrageous lies.
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by Jews get away with the most outrageous lies
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 11:52 PM
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire.
WHO CARES.
If the Jews can't argue their position so that most people believe it, then their position is assuredly wrong.
Censorship is very bad, as it allows people (especially the Jews) to get away with the most outrageous lies.
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by Jews get away with the most outrageous lies
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 11:52 PM
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire.
WHO CARES.
If the Jews can't argue their position so that most people believe it, then their position is assuredly wrong.
Censorship is very bad, as it allows people (especially the Jews) to get away with the most outrageous lies.
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by Jews get away with the most outrageous lies
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 11:53 PM
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire.
WHO CARES.
If the Jews can't argue their position so that most people believe it, then their position is assuredly wrong.
Censorship is very bad, as it allows people (especially the Jews) to get away with the most outrageous lies.
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by Jews get away with the most outrageous lies
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 11:53 PM
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire.
WHO CARES.
If the Jews can't argue their position so that most people believe it, then their position is assuredly wrong.
Censorship is very bad, as it allows people (especially the Jews) to get away with the most outrageous lies.
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by Jews get away with the most outrageous lies
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 11:53 PM
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire.
WHO CARES.
If the Jews can't argue their position so that most people believe it, then their position is assuredly wrong.
Censorship is very bad, as it allows people (especially the Jews) to get away with the most outrageous lies.
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by Jews get away with the most outrageous lies
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 11:54 PM
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire.
WHO CARES.
If the Jews can't argue their position so that most people believe it, then their position is assuredly wrong.
Censorship is very bad, as it allows people (especially the Jews) to get away with the most outrageous lies.
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by Jews get away with the most outrageous lies
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 11:54 PM
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire.
WHO CARES.
If the Jews can't argue their position so that most people believe it, then their position is assuredly wrong.
Censorship is very bad, as it allows people (especially the Jews) to get away with the most outrageous lies.
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by Jews get away with the most outrageous lies
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 11:54 PM
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire.
WHO CARES.
If the Jews can't argue their position so that most people believe it, then their position is assuredly wrong.
Censorship is very bad, as it allows people (especially the Jews) to get away with the most outrageous lies.
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by Jews get away with the most outrageous lies
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 11:54 PM
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire.
WHO CARES.
If the Jews can't argue their position so that most people believe it, then their position is assuredly wrong.
Censorship is very bad, as it allows people (especially the Jews) to get away with the most outrageous lies.
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by Jews get away with the most outrageous lies
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 11:54 PM
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire.
WHO CARES.
If the Jews can't argue their position so that most people believe it, then their position is assuredly wrong.
Censorship is very bad, as it allows people (especially the Jews) to get away with the most outrageous lies.
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by Jews get away with the most outrageous lies
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 11:54 PM
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire.
WHO CARES.
If the Jews can't argue their position so that most people believe it, then their position is assuredly wrong.
Censorship is very bad, as it allows people (especially the Jews) to get away with the most outrageous lies.
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by Jews get away with the most outrageous lies
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 11:54 PM
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire.
WHO CARES.
If the Jews can't argue their position so that most people believe it, then their position is assuredly wrong.
Censorship is very bad, as it allows people (especially the Jews) to get away with the most outrageous lies.
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by Jews get away with the most outrageous lies
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 11:55 PM
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire.
WHO CARES.
If the Jews can't argue their position so that most people believe it, then their position is assuredly wrong.
Censorship is very bad, as it allows people (especially the Jews) to get away with the most outrageous lies.
Report this post as:
by Jews get away with the most outrageous lies
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 11:55 PM
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire.
WHO CARES.
If the Jews can't argue their position so that most people believe it, then their position is assuredly wrong.
Censorship is very bad, as it allows people (especially the Jews) to get away with the most outrageous lies.
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by WHO CARES.
Wednesday, May. 21, 2003 at 11:56 PM
People are claiming IndyMedia is "anti-semitic", because of trolls who sometimes post hateful posts on the unedited, user-supplied newswire. WHO CARES. If the Jews can't argue their position so that most people believe it, then their position is assuredly wrong. Censorship is very bad, as it allows people (especially the Jews) to get away with the most outrageous lies.
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by X
Thursday, May. 22, 2003 at 12:15 AM
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by thanks google
Thursday, May. 22, 2003 at 12:15 AM
You know, disguising hate as a political freedom is beyond me in a class of people that speak of justice for indigenous peoples and human rights. I used to like Indeymedia, then i got offended. i talked to the editors, and got no response. I wouldn't tell google to do that, but really, the last post about Jews just proves the point. Racism is just as much a problem for progressives as it is for everyone else. I won't give up on Indeymedia, and I'd probably send a letter to google asking for repreive on the grounds that the Idea behind free speech is valid. However, if racists want to post, why don't they find their own Nazi site. It's not just anti Jew hate I read here, it's "kill the niggers and arabs," as well. It has to be stopped. The editors have every right to ensure that we can be free of hate speech. Otherwise, we can just all post on Kobe and have it out over there because here will be just as bad.
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by fresca
Thursday, May. 22, 2003 at 12:43 AM
myzmc...nice post Couldn't agree more.
Hows that dog you rescued?
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by Bugs
Thursday, May. 22, 2003 at 1:15 AM
do you even know which thread you're on? are you drunk?
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by fresca
Thursday, May. 22, 2003 at 1:25 AM
"do you even know which thread you're on? "
why do you ask, my man?
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by Bugs
Thursday, May. 22, 2003 at 1:30 AM
"myzmc...nice post Couldn't agree more.
Hows that dog you rescued?" ...Do you know which thread you're on? I mean to whom are you responding?
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by fresca
Thursday, May. 22, 2003 at 1:39 AM
...to "thanks Google"...that's myzyc..or however she spells here name.
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by anti-fascist
Thursday, May. 22, 2003 at 4:30 AM
Someone named "thank google" wrote:
>> if racists want to post, why don't they find their own Nazi site. It's not just anti Jew hate I read here, it's "kill the niggers and arabs," as well. They don't post to their own sites because they want to undermine and destroy this one!
Amazingly enough... the volunteers who run Indymedia will not protect themselves (and us!) by blocking the pornographic, racist, and Jew bashing posts... on the grounds that such action would be against "free speech."
That's terrific. The result is that the mainstream is beginning to cut off links to Indy. Google is the first but it won't be the last. Will Indy be happy when all major search engines ban Indymedia from their data banks?
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by daveman
Thursday, May. 22, 2003 at 7:29 AM
Google News no longer scans IM.
The Google search engne does.
Two different entities.
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by da
Thursday, May. 22, 2003 at 6:05 PM
i found this site with google.
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