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Business Does Not Use Force

by judith mpls Sunday, May. 11, 2003 at 1:28 PM

Who uses force to get your money? The State.

Why are you against business? They do not use force to get your money. You voluntarily give your money to them because you love their produce. What does the government give you that you love? You are forced to give them money. Why? Why can't it be voluntary? So why support the State and not the businessman. Because the State brainwashed you in their State-run schools, and you watch the State-run bootlicking media. You are all brainwashed. For more on the abuses of government, check out Alex Jones (www.infowars.net).

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oh yeah?

by anon Sunday, May. 11, 2003 at 4:43 PM

Gee, "business doesn't use force," eh? I wonder what Chevron was doing when it used its pilots and helicopters as gunship platforms to transport Nigerian death squads who shot down villagers in the Niger Delta? Or what about Unocal and Halliburton when they built gas pipelines in Burma with slave labor? Or Coca Cola when it paid paramilitary death squads in Colombia to terrorize union organizers? Or Occidental in Colombia when it employed mercenaries to bomb villages in regions where it controls oil pipelines? Or Mobil in Indonesia when it supplied excavation equipment to dig mass graves for dissidents in Aceh province? I suppose all the victims of these atrocities just stepped up voluntarily to die for the greater glory of American multinational capital?

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please stop.....

by mkj Sunday, May. 11, 2003 at 4:57 PM

spamming the website with al this stuff

just cram it into one article with some anti state pictures and your good to go

peace

mkj

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Because you distort the point...

by Diogenes Sunday, May. 11, 2003 at 5:54 PM

...does not make the point invalid. Yes some American businesseses have committed horrible crimes and are not to be excused. They should be brought to Trial for their crimes.

However, when was the last time you had the Barista at a Coffee House force you to buy a double Espresso?

There is a difference between Free Exchange and Forced Exchange.

Government taxation is Forced Exchange. Try not paying and see how long it takes for the Goons with Guns show up.

The key difference is that it voluntary exchange you have a choice and the right not to patronize Chevron. One could even make the case that, in light of their crimes, that it would be immoral to support them and buy their product.

That still does not obviate the basic point the author of the thread was making.

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Public control

by Sheepdog Sunday, May. 11, 2003 at 6:12 PM

Charters that come up for renewal and open books

are the only method of keeping a leash on the

growing power of corporations, which now direct

government policy.

THIS is fascism.

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Re: Because you distort

by anon Sunday, May. 11, 2003 at 8:55 PM

Oh, I "distort"? My point is that there are often people on the losing end of these "exchanges," people you won't hear much about in the newspapers, except when on occasion they manage to secure pro bono legal representation in attempts to bring civil actions against their corporate victimizers in the courts (e.g., the Burmese slave laborers vs. Unocal). There is little probability of fair exchange between parties that vastly differ in power and wealth and government influence.

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? for the guys

by judith mpls Thursday, May. 15, 2003 at 4:06 PM

Would any of you like a blowjob from a toothless wench?

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