WE ALL KNOW HOW LA.INDYMEDIA.ORG IS NOT PERFECT SO LETS GIVE THOSE PEOPLES SOME IDEAS ON HOW TO FIX UP THE WEBSITE OR IF YOU THINK THE WEBSITE IS PERFECT JUST THE WAY IT IS, THANK THEM

login with password so people dont jack other peoples names and disable that hidden post shit we want to see all the truths and lies we dont need you guys to sugar cone it off to us

thank you la.indymedia.org

i love you daveman

peace out ppplz

mkj

then kill his mom, sisters, and dog as to put an end to his bloodline in it's entirety.

I agree with mkj.

But it won't happen.

First of all, Diogenes, Sheepdog, KPC and this faker of whom mkj speaks (people dont jack other peoples names) won't go for it. In their own convoluted, warped thought process, they live in fear that the day is coming where someone stands up and says "In my hand I hold a list......" They are WAY to paranoid to even consider registering here. They are very, very brave............. that is as long as they can anonymously hide behind their computers. So deep is their paranoia, they don't even trust LA-IMC. Keep this in mind whenever you read their tripe. They're all brave enough to say what's on their minds, as long as no one knows who they are. Ladies and Gentleman, meet those who wish they could shape world policy, safely tucked away in Anonymousland.

Is there any way to stay true to the IMC's principles and

not have to deal with the idiocy as exemplified by the comment above.

Can the IMC find a way to filter out the filth and ignorance perpetuated by neo-conservatives and other non-progressive haters out there.

I have nothing against mature neo-cons posting some good, legitimate ideas or critiques (if they have any), but instead what we get is a bunch of lies, ranting, racism, and outright insults posted by immature morons posing as "patriotic Americans."

I agree that the IMC should remain "open" to everyone, but in these times the designs of the far right are to spread hatred in the U.S. (e.g. right-wing radio broadcasters and spokespeople advocating the killing of protesters in the U.S.--well gee, look what "our troops" are now doing in Iraq--to the death threats posed above).

Don't censor ideas, but curb the ignorance. Is this possible?

>>Don't censor ideas, but curb the ignorance. Is this possible?
The main one not offering anything is the liberal who keeps posting under other peoples names. Boot him and you got a descent website.

I wrote that. Aren't I clever. My mommy thinks so.

See what I mean.

i dont think that last post was yours because i know your more mature than that plus mkj is spelled mjk and i dont think you would say that about me or would you?

ithe truth is i love you daveman but i just cant express myself it always runs off in a bad way but now ill comeout the closet and say it i love you daveman i like anyname with dave in it dave is always somehow linked to a jewish person i love jews but i hate their government i hate debbie schlussle because she hates arabs shes the one that threw the blanket over arabs first im sorry if i ever offended you daveman i swear look all you want their is no hidden message in this post like i did to simon i swear after looking at a couple more of your post i seem to disagree with some of the stuff you say but other than that were cool right? this is a suck up and apoligy i swear i wont post another post under this name if you do not see where i am coming from i mean you read that article by debbie schlussel the story of the sauidi guy demanding that their be no women in the control tower that a whole bunch of bullshit you know it and i know it and all the other stuff debbie does i just fucking hate her have you ever seen or heard someone for the first time and felt like something just didint "click in" well thats how i felt when i heard that bitch for the first time

i do not hate all jews and i never threw the zionist blanket at the jewish people i was always oipen and willing to accept other peoples ideas

well like i said this will be my last post underr the name mkj if you do not see where im coming from

ill post this up a couple more times to make sure you get it

peace out daveman and ppplz

mkj

van halen fans aside (do they still have those?), most of the non-productive stuff I've seen is from the caveman, gush admirer, fresh, etc. people, and a few occasional extreme nuts.

Boot them and you have an even more decent website.

And what's with the lovefest between mjk and daveman. i guess its better to love your enemy to death rather than kill them (do you hear that military people).

Then have people register. If they create legitimate complaints (not just because you don't like their political philosophy) then they get the boot.

But I'm telling you, right-wingers aren't the ones who would complain about registering. Left-wingers would, and for the very reasons I've already listed.

Don't censor ideas, but club the ignorant. Is this possible?

>>I mean to say....

by Impatience • Thursday May 01, 2003 01:10 PM

Don't censor ideas, but club the ignorant. Is this possible?
If you're going to do this, you got to do it right.

I mean to say....

by Impatience • Thursday May 01, 2003 01:10 PM

Don't censor ideas, but CLUB the ignorant. Is this possible?

If you don't put your changes in all caps, you're gonna leave a lot of liberals around here scratching their heads wondering what you did.

Do a search on any search engine you wish, on

(subversive watch lists)

thank you.

Read again what Sheepdog just wrote.

You need any more proof.

They're scared of their own shadow. And then we're asked to believe the tripe they present as though it were fact? They want to be taken seriously? People who are scared that the boogie-man is behind their door?

Not in this lifetime.

Read again what Sheepdog just wrote.

Do You need any more proof

My answer is, of course not..

KOBE is watching you.

BOO!!

DID you do a search on:

[subversive watch lists]

Hmmmm?

Ugly, isn't it?

And hey, you know where I am, in the middle of

the front row, making all the noise.

I would gladly comply. The bullshit around here doesn't come from the right.

And of course it doesn't.

People who are afraid they're going to end up on a "list" can make all the noise they want, but no one cares. Make all the noise you want. 10 regular posters here, tops. Big whoop-te-do!!

As soon as I saw mkj's suggestion, I knew you (among others) wouldn't go for it. No way any of you are going to leave the safety of "base".

... blast of wind.

it was warm, but empty, as usual.

Sheepdog is so popular.

You can't have it both ways. Either register everyone and hold them accountable for their comments, or quit whining and allow your inherrent paranoia to maintain the IMC status quo. Either way, I don't give two squirts.

Of course there is a third choice. Turn the forum into a Hitler/Gestapo routine like nessie and the dorks over at sf IMC did, and quash all dissent period.

>>Thank you for your....

by . • Thursday May 01, 2003 02:27 PM

... blast of wind.

it was warm, but empty, as usual.

Sheepdog is so popular.
Hey, our "faker" with one playbook and one play showed up. LA-IMC, block this guy's IP. He's a running sore on the face of liberalism.

HaHa

Blocked?

Broken?

Bluked?

Good going.

HaHa.

Liberalism is a running sore on the face of liberalism.

LA-IMC, ban yourself.

Yeah, you're "brave" alright. You change your posting handles more often than you change your underwear. "Conservative" is another word for "hypocrite."

I'm not all these people. I'm Bond. James Bond. Time you got back on your meds, you schizoid.

>>DID you do a search on:

[subversive watch lists]

Hmmmm?

Ugly, isn't it?
Fear can sometimes be a useful emotion.

For instance, let's say you're an astronaut on the moon and you fear that your partner has been turned into Dracula. The next time he goes out for the moon pieces, wham!, you just slam the door behind him and blast off. He might call you on the radio and say he's not really Dracula, but you just say, "Think again, bat man."

...an idea to take hold ridicule it. As our friend "goodthing" does above.

If you don't want people to consider how security could be breached then divert them from thinking about it.

Under the un-Patriot Act the FBI or other Government Agency (Like the CIA - which thanks to the Homeland Sekurity Act can once again conduct Domestic Surveillance - which they had been forbidden to do due to past abuses) can come in with a Secret Warrant, collect IP and identity information, which LA.Indy would then be forbidden to reveal had occurred and then make life miserable for dissenters. This is not speculation it is fact. Similar actions have already occurred and it is documented in the Senate Hearing investigating CIA abuses during the Vietnam War era.

It is also a fact that COINTELPRO existed, abused their authority to hit at dissidents, and generally violated Constitutional rights with complete impunity.

It is a fact that Nixon used the IRS to get back at people on his enemies list.

It is a fact that during the Clinton Administration Groups that opposed Clinton had a surprising propensity to get Audited.

Abuse of power to silence opponents is as old as Politics.

I would like to see registered Nicks but the ability for the Identity information to be compromised is all too real.

The Trolls have no reason to oppose it because they work for the people who would be doing the snooping and harassing.

...I don't make "Demands" on people who are providing a Public Service and selflessly volunteering their time. It is inconsiderate and bad manners to do so. In this case I make requests.

My only request would be to do a periodic check of the ongoing debates and dispose of any obvious Spam that exists only to disrupt debate. The best example, currently, of this is the person who posts the long "anarchist" Spams to disrupt debates in which the Trolls are on the defensive or in full retreat.

"daveman=OU812=Bush Admirer=correction=007

by IP Checker • Thursday May 01, 2003 03:35 PM



Yeah, you're "brave" alright. You change your posting handles more often than you change your underwear. "Conservative" is another word for "hypocrite."



Just checking a few IP's here myself and what do you know.

IP Checker is Sheepdog is KPC is Systemfailure is STOP THE SLAUGHTER.

Amazing.

Sad really. I had hoped there were more than one or two truly crazy conspiracy folk to toy with.

wow

all

in one

wow

Wrong, stupid, wrong.

...and word usage. Different writers.

I am amused at all the attempts to equate some people with different names.

Like everyone who posts here I do sometimes use others when it amuses me, or to avoid giving the Trolls an opening for attack. For me it occaisions a wry smile.

By the way - to the Trolls: Eat Me!

...could be me, considering all my multiples are

fighting over possession of my hands....

It's a good thing I only listen to the good voices in my

head. Thank you for your support.

( If you can't laugh at yourself you need to take a nap, friends)

Sincerely, Sheepdog

If you block those with "dissenting" ideas, you become as fascist as those whose dissent you label as fascist.

If you register users, you become subject to the "fascism" of the Justice Department.

Sounds like you gotta suck it up and put up with the spammers and neocons and fakers and everyone else who makes your lives miserable.

Deal with it.

You're using the word 'fascist' pretty loosely.

Don't you mean authoritarian?

"The Trolls have no reason to oppose it because they work for the people who would be doing the snooping and harassing."

Utter nonsense. We so called "trolls" have no reason to oppose it because we are not afraid to put a name behind our words. I, for instance, have been posting behind this name on IMC for years now. I've even gone as far as posting my home address on here when previously asked. Didn't have even a single adverse consequence from it, but made a couple of very close "troll" friends. Even got nessie to send me five bucks in the hopes I'd go away. Needless to say, it didn't work. But I thanked him for the beer I bought with it.

By registering nicks, you don't have to make anyone attach ANY personal info. You just prevent all this spam from being generated under other people's monikers. Then, we all know who's responsible, and we hold that nick responsible. It's a lot easier to filter through garbage when you know who's making it.

I'm only repeaeting what I hear in good ol' Indymedia, where everyone who disagrees is being paid by the government to do so.

It's true because Diogones said so.

No, dearest daveman. It's true because FOX NEWS said so.

You go from 'we' to I in about 4.5 seconds.

That's quick. A hemi?

"We" was your word. I can say that because you said "the trolls" AND you've implied that I was on on multiple occasions. In fact, anyone that expresses opinion converse to your own, you consider a troll.

But I can't speak for everyone. Just me. Allow me to rephrase:

I, myself, after having been accused on multiple occasions of being a so called "troll", have no reason to oppose it (registering nicks) because I am not afraid to put a name behind my words.

Better?

And you should know plenty about

subversive watch lists.

...or should I say GREG? HMMMMMMMM?

Funny. My worst nightmare doesn't even know my name. I'm curious though. What makes you think my name is Greg?

wow

and

who cares?

wow

Come on, you KOBE member, you.

Just where in this thread did I say we?

Or do you mean in some other post?

Remember

subversive watch lists?

When I refer to "we," I mean the voices in my head.

When I refer to "we," I mean the voices in my head.

Sheepdog, you said "the trolls". And I said "We so called trolls". I still don't get your confusion. In your opinion, I'm a troll, so I grouped myself in that category for your benefit.

Now maybe you'll extend me the same courtesy and admit you are a liberal.

And I don't know squat about KOBE. Nor do I care. Nor is my name Greg. It's Eric. But you can call me what you like.

And I certainly won't deny the existence of watch lists. They're real alright. And our government uses them. But times have changed since the days of COINTELPRO.

Would you like some counseling for those voices in your head, Eric?

Shall we begin now, Dr.?

Sure, just put down the crack pipe.

When did I say trolls?

Please pay attention.

I use the word weasels or campers for agents from

the dark dank depths of the fascist right.

You know, minions of the roach droppings.

>I would like to see registered Nicks but the ability for the Identity information to be compromised is all too real.

Like I said, Diogenes wouldn't go for it. It's the "In my hand I hold a list....." fear. "I'll cuss you out as long as I can stand behind this wall and you can't cross over." Brave behind anonymity.

>The Trolls have no reason to oppose it because they work for the people who would be doing the snooping and harassing.

I don't WORK for people who snoop around, dumbass. I'm a one person company. Most of the "shills" you keep claiming are paid to come here and hassle you are average joe's like me just ribbing you because your political philosophy is foolish. Get over this "I'm public enemy #1" syndrome.

Conservatives are better than Saturday Night Live. Keep up the entertainment.

KOBE is watching you.

OOOOh, I'm scared. NOT! You're nothing but a bunch of cybergeeks who can't get laid.

People who can't get laid talk like this:

>Do a search on any search engine you wish, on

(subversive watch lists)

>I would like to see registered Nicks but the ability for the Identity information to be compromised is all too real.

People who can't get laid talk like this:

"BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA."

Courtesy of KOBE SBM

So let me ask you KKKOBE of whatever name you're using at the moment, how do you feel about registering names?

I couldn't care less. It would, however, cramp your style. You change your posting handles more often than you change your underwear.

Naw, wouldn't bother me. And my name is . , not ".".

Hey KKKOBES ARE MORONS, Here's something you need to try. It's a good joke to do during an earthquake and it's all the rage among liberals. Just straddle a big crack in the ground, and if it opens wider, go "Whoa! Whoa!" and flail your arms around, like you're going to fall in.

That made about as much sense as your political philosophy: NONE.

Try it. You'll love it. All your friends do.

You know my friends? NAME one of them.

Look. During an earthquake, just straddle a big crack in the ground, and if it opens wider, go "Whoa! Whoa!" and flail your arms around, like you're going to fall in. What does the rest of us people on planet Earth have to lose? That's right. Not much.

TLW is next.

Didn't think so. Like most conservatives, you're full of nothing but hot air.

I demand that capitalism be ripped to shreds so that the people of the world can all live as one in a workers paradise of extreme poverty and hunger and without needed medicines but with lots of love. Love is all you need. Coo-coo-ka-choo.

I'm really a conservative. I like making fun of people who are smarter than me.

[ what is gidderish?] anyway...

For When Ever this Site Comes Up.

Ever wonder what keeps happening at IMC LA?

Every time I throw in a front post, the damn site

takes a dirt nap (it’s all about me, you know) and I have to pester some one else ( BTW,...check out Portland’s new site).

I’ve sent some $ to SF; as your site page does not currently

have a mailing address for donations, when will this be posted?

Let’s pretend, boys, girls and aliens at large

to support this station of evil wizards, nerds and sneaky mean

anarchists ..for the spooks, weasels, morons and ..

The: obsessed, the possessed, the compulsive, the obsessive,the manic, the depressed, the neurotic and psychotic.

Speaking of which, don’t forget about our campers that present them selves as instructors of this hidden revealed revelation known only to them selves

The righteousness of greed and force, the vision of ‘america’; self serving yet suicidal.

A visualization of the purpose of humanity; a system that enriches

a few at the loss of the liberties, and the pursuit of happiness of

the vast majority of the brothers and sisters of this earth

The wasting of land and air and water with poisons that will never be

gone and the burning and cutting down of the remainder

The evil use of awful

obscenely destructive weapons,

The american fairy tail for the growing number of victims

of this rotten, corrupt system.

It’s not a system of the many

it’s always been the system of a few, enforced by the show

of steel and the promotion of ignorance as their weapons. ..

This is their view, not mine..

I view of a world that heals

and grows rather than dies a bit at a time in pain and grief.

Run by all of us.

you know, us, the salt of the earth.

My fellow ignorant peasants,

This is where we can share this other vision

and perhaps blunt some of their old and

practiced tactics of ignorance. .

That is why you should send money

to pay for some more water proofing for their garage.

.(I’ll be waiting for the usual kickback, IMC )[wink]

so good luck.

...us Peasants with Pitchforks.

And Trolls: You still eat me.

...us Peasants with Pitchforks.

And Trolls: You still eat me.