Can anyone doubt that the US is a colonial power. . .

Consider how we have COLONIZED the following nations after military take overs:

Panama (. . . freest elections in its history in 1996. . . blech)

Grenada (. . . no Cuban advisers since 1983!. . .)

Haiti (. . . our 51st State. . .)

Kuwait (. . . sovereignty restored in 1991, yeah right. . .)

Iraq (. . . basically a US protectorate since 1991. . .)

Somalia (. . . we OWN them. . .)

Kosovo (. . . how many troops do we have there now? A billion. . .)

Korea (. . . isn't Newt governor of S. Korea now?. . .)

Yes, yes, it is clear that all US policy is about global domination. If only people would stop listening to the corporate media and see the light.

(And don't forget how wonderful Vietnam became after the US left -- I'm moving there now!)

I'm confused, I can't keep track since I stopped watching "corporate TV" and tned into Indymedia. Now I trust no one, not even my family.

If you are given two mutually contradictory pieces of information the first thing you can know for certain is:

One or both are false.

Then study the facts.

Sort them.

Organize them.

Draw a conclusion and test it.

If it works out you have hit it. If not try again. Don't give up. That's for wimps.

And above all: THINK FOR YOURSELF.

Thinking for myself and doing all neccessary research and critical thinking, I've concluded that the initial post was knowingly ignorant of history, and so full of inane hyperbole that no one could possibly take it seriuosly.
Thanks Dio, when you're right you're right.

...is:

"And above all: THINK FOR YOURSELF. PARROT EXACTLY WHAT I SAY, OR ELSE YOU'RE A PAID SHILL AND A BROWN SHIRT."

Hey, Diogenes, do you ever get them mixed up and call somebody a "paid shirt" or a "brown shill"?

...I don't want you to think for yourself.

It makes his job harder if you do.

People who ask questions and analyze arguments are not as easily sold a Pant Load of Spin.

Confound them: THINK FOR YOURSELF.

...is:

If you want to know the truth, do what I do: WATCH FOX NEWS.

HaHaHa
That's a funny one.

you list some of the countries that we showed a little more restraint with after military action. trust me, if panama elected an anti us government in its "free" elections we would sack it accordingly.

i would also like to point out that you can exert imperialism without military power in the form of economic pressure and corporate colonialism.

i cant believe you listed greneda. does anyone who thinks we "liberated" that country actually know what goes on there?

...I don't care if people agree with me.

Your words and your tone, however, show you care deeply if people agree with you.

Anyone who disagrees is treated to the "shill/brown shirt" refrain.

Sounds like you want people to think for themselves only if they draw the same conclusions as you.

Deny it all you want...your words have already spoken abundantly.

Thanks for allowing us to do your thinking for you.

The right only has Fox.

We's got ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBS, CNN, PBS and a host of others to do our thunkin' for us.

We gonna win!

The left only has Indymedia.

We's got FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBS, CNN, PBS and a host of other corporate media to do our thunkin' for us.

We gonna win!

...how both sides accuse the media of slanting the other way.

...how conservatives let us do their thinking for them.

...the first 50 times I read that "do their thinking for them" thing.

True. But left & right has nothing to do with corporate media. What is left and what is right is determined in Washington D.C., not Indymedia. Most people don't define left & right by "corporate" anything, therefore when they use that termanology it will only confuse people who don't know what they mean.

If it's not funny, then start thinking on your own for once.

...report from a position determined by the corporation. Viewers/readers judge that position by comparing it to their own personal beliefs. That's where the left/right media labels come from. For instance, I bet Pat Buchanan looks at Fox News and starts yelling about the "liberal media bias".

Physics meets politics...it's all relativity.

I look at you and yell "GET OUT OF THE GENE POOL!"

>If it's not funny, then start thinking on your own for once.<

I love it when you don't agree with their viewpoint how you're not "thinking on your own".

So, not-real Bush Admirer, if I were to examine the evidence and reach the same conclusions you have, would I be "thinking on my own"?

So, let me clarify. If I were to examine the evidence and reach the same conclusions as you, it would be because I was thinking on my own. Is that what you're saying?

Just wanted to make sure when you said YES that you understood that you were telling all of us that if we believe the same things you do it's because we are thinking on our own, and conversely those who disagree with you are not thinking.

Well, I see that you put words in my mouth. I expect nothing less from a conservative. Please enroll in that remedial reading comprehension course.

>>And YES, I would know whether you were "thinking on your own," provided you were getting a brain scan at the time.<<

So if I were to examine the evidence while receiving a brain scan and reached the same conclusions as you have, then I would be thinking on my own.

Judging by your comments, one can safely deduce that you have no idea what a brain scan does. It measures brain activity. Maybe now, you'll UNDERSTAND my post.

So if a brain scan is given and it measures activity on someone who has examined the same evidence as you and has reached the same conclusions, it proves they are able to think on their own.

The left is superior to the right in every way mentionable. If you agree with the left, then you agree with the truth. If you agree with the right, then you agree with all their lies. If people agree with me, then they agree with the truth. It's that simple. Now enroll in that remedial reading comprehension course.

Thank you for clarifying.

Thank-you for impersonating me in an attempt to face-save, olvie. You certainly need it. I do hope that you'll grow up one day.

Huh!?!........................

My, what an intelligent response!

Maybe you'll UNDERSTAND this. What do you mean "saving face"?

It is YOU that doesn't UNDERSTAND. Do you enjoy being a hypocrite?

Just answer the question.

Go ahead. Get in the last word. You know you gotta.

Just read "Politics for Dummies." That will better match your reading level and understanding of politics.

I am the real Bush Admirer, you psycho. And it would appear to be YOU who's "gotta" have the last word. I can only hope that you're not a day older than 12.

Where were these conspiracymedia people before the Internet?

That guy mumbling incoherently in the subway? That annoying and senseless gal in the office that everybody avoids?

The Web really is amazing at bringing niche groups together.

Geez, twelve fake B.A. postings in this thread alone. If nothing else you are prolific Eric.

daveman
"by olvie • Monday April 21, 2003 02:01 PM
>If it's not funny, then start thinking on your own for once.<

"I love it when you don't agree with their viewpoint how you're not "thinking on your own"."

That wasn't me, olvie; that was someone using the handle FOX NEWS.

There are also some alleged people in here who think it's very clever to post under other peoples' handles.

You were arguing with a fake Bush Admirer.

Sorry, I am too much of an idiot to have figured that out.

"Sorry, I am too much of an idiot to have figured that out."

You think you're an idiot? I can't even tie my own shoes. I'm a conservative.

You conservatives take your stupidity somewhere else.

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