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VOA Reports Baghdad Not Taken

by C/O Diogenes Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 2:37 PM

As the reports develop the war whoops of victory are turning to Whoops!

AP

Lt. Gen. William WallaceThe commanding general of the U.S. Army in Iraq says it is much too soon to declare Baghdad a liberated city. VOA Correspondent Alisha Ryu accompanied Lieutenant General William Scott Wallace on Thursday as he visited commanders and troops in downtown Baghdad.

The three-star American general listened intently as the commander of the Third Infantry Division's Second Brigade, Colonel David Perkins, described the resistance his soldiers met in the center of the city two days ago from paramilitary men loyal to Saddam Hussein.

"At one point, they were ambushed, ... and lost two soldiers. One was hit directly with an RPG [Rocket-Propelled Grenade]," he said.



AP

U.S. Army soldiers from A Company 3rd Battalion 7th Infantry Regiment prepare to return fire on Iraqi fighters in BaghdadDuring Colonel Perkins' briefing at what used to be Saddam Hussein's main residence in Baghdad, loud explosions and small arms fire echoed in the distance. Lieutenant General Wallace says despite television scenes on Wednesday of Iraqi people celebrating U.S. troops taking control of Baghdad, he believes his soldiers are still under enormous threat from Saddam Hussein's Fedayeen and Special Republican Guards in some parts of the city.

"It's those knuckleheads we have got to take care of," he said.

Evidence of recent fighting is everywhere in the downtown area. Along one deserted street, numerous dead Iraqi militiamen lie next to their burned out civilian vehicles. Around the corner, a U.S. military fuel tanker, hit by a grenade, is on fire.

Destroyed weapons, spent shells and unexploded ordinance form a metal carpet on the street that leads to the now U.S. occupied presidential palace.

Many Iraqi civilians in the neighborhood stood outside their homes, and yelled, "Hello," to General Wallace's convoy. Some people gave the general the "thumbs up" sign, and shouted, "Thank you."

Other people, mostly young Iraqi men, glared angrily at the long line of Bradley fighting vehicles and Humvee Jeeps rumbling past them.

The commander of the Second Brigade, Colonel Perkins, says his soldiers and civil affairs officers are making progress in gaining the trust of the local people. He told General Wallace that several of the local men alerted his troops about a minefield in the area. Colonel Perkins says that information prevented numerous American casualties.

But yet, another crack of gunfire near the U.S. military commanders on Thursday reminds them that the threat against U.S. troops in Baghdad is far from over.

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Contrary to...

by Diogenes Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 2:39 PM

...yesterdays staged events and PR Galas the Iraqi People are not greeting their Invaders with open arms and garlands.

As I predicted weeks ago the arms they are being greeted with are small caliber.

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Obviously...

by daveman Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 2:45 PM

...this story is propaganda put out by Baghdad Bob. Any photos of the attack are obviously Photoshopped. All video has obviously beed doctored. All those killed and wounded were paid to do so.

Now, see how silly you sound?

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Notice...

by Diogenes Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 2:57 PM

...the attempt to divert the issue.

If the facts are not on your side invent some. Except Cave you are not bright enough to do it convincingly.

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And who Knows...

by MadMaxim Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 3:01 PM

...what kind of Hack Job editing Diogaynes did on these reports, since, as usual, he refuses to include URL links to the original source stories.

Pinooooocchio!

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I suppose...

by Diogenes Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 3:07 PM

...you couldn't find VOA on your own?

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Yo MadMaxiePad

by Diogenes Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 3:13 PM

Here's a URL for you: http://www.theonion.com/onion3913/oil_wells_liberated.html

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I merely...

by daveman Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 3:14 PM

...repeated the nonsense you posted on the other thread.

So, if I sound like an idiot, so do you.

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I merely...

by daveman Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 3:14 PM

...repeated the nonsense you posted on the other thread.

So, if I sound like an idiot, so do you.

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Please, I would not think...

by Diogenes Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 3:15 PM

...of treading on your territory Cave.

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Good Show, Diogenes!

by Brian O'Connor Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 3:26 PM

Way to fOIL the opposition! These idiots think they're convincing people with their smoke and mirrors. They are convincing people of something: that their side will DO ANYTHING to 'win'. Whether it is lying, cheating, stealing or murdering (READ 'shooting reporters), the New Right does not care. They will conquer us all...or die in the process! ;-)

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Sorry, Diogenes...

by daveman Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 3:26 PM

You went there first.

Ha ha!

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Clean Up

by gunner Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 3:27 PM

So there still having to shoot some of the bad guys. Big whoop! The bad guys got nowhere to run to, they'll be gone soon enough.

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Brian O'Connor:

by daveman Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 3:28 PM

Put down the crack pipe and step away from it.

it's really aggravating your paranoia.

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David-schmavid

by Brian O'Connor Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 3:57 PM

Ain't no pipes left in town: Dubya got 'em all up at the White folks House. And I know he hittin' 'em hard!

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Simple

by Simple Simon Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 4:12 PM

Whattza matter, Brian?

Did someone go and win a war, and now you won't get to chat up that cute hippie chick at the "no war" protest that got cancelled?

Aw, shucks.

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Simple Pimple

by Brian O'Connor Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 4:33 PM

Is that the best you can do? You just gave me the best laugh I've had all day! OOOHHHHHH!!!!! The Simple Pimple is trying to hurt my feelings! OOOOOHHHH!!! Maybe I should run and hide like Dick Cheney! 'Where's my bunker? Help! I'm being hassled by an idiot who can't even compose a paragraph!'

I'm sorry, did you claim a victory for the Empire? A little pre-mature, don't you think? Pimple, are you saying no more body bags for Amerikkan boyz and grrrls? That is quite a statement to back-up...

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Simple

by Simple Simon Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 4:38 PM

What I'm saying Brian O'Connor, is that you are on the losing side in this argument and this war. You opposed the liberation of the Iraqis and so it becomes imperative to deny the evidence of your eyes and ears. Otherwise it would be difficult to look yourself in a mirror and say "I am in favor of Saddam Hussein staying in power".

But please, explain it to me. Explain how your principled stand for 'peace' trumps the Iraqi's right to freedom?

This will be amusing.

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No one is against...

by Diogenes Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 4:41 PM

...the "Liberation of the Iraqi's" but that is not why U.S. Forces are there.

It's the OIL stupid.

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Simple

by Simple Simon Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 4:44 PM

Ack! Pfffffttt! Kryptonite!

Leftist bromides, we have no power against them!

What's next? "you can't hug with nuclear arms"?

Damn you Diogenes!

I'm mellllllltttttinnnnnggg....

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Simon!

by daveman Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 4:48 PM

HA HA HA HA!

Priceless!

"Captain, sensors indicate a pointless pomposity coming from the Diogones system!"

"Set phasers to 'Ridicule' and Fire!"

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Replacing one Dick with another

by Brian O'Connor Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 5:00 PM

Yes, you armchair generals, we have 'liberated' the Iraqi people by bombing them to death. Now they are free to die as they choose: malnutrition, left-over ordinance, landmines, burning oil fumes, etc...

Simple, you pull sh!t out of your a$$ like a proctologists! No one here even mentioned Sad Saddam. I think ALL people should be free, even Amerikkkans. But there's not much hope for us: we are too brainwashed by mass media to know the truth when we see it.

And hey, it is about the oil, not liberation.

You never did answer the question: How many more body bags for US imperialist forces?

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Simple

by Simple Simon Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 5:21 PM

There you go thinking again, Brian. Working without tools.

This campaign has uprooted the apparatus of a police state from a country the size of California with a population of 24 million people. It did so in less than a month. Civilian casualties have been exceedingly light – far lighter than the number killed in the first Gulf War.

No one has starved, and I suspect the number of Iraqis who will starve in areas under Coalition control will be, um, ZERO.

Leftover ordinance is a problem. Especially cluster bomblets. There will no doubt be casualties. Hopefully the military-civilian liaisons will educate the populace on the danger quickly.

I can’t say for sure, Brian, but you see on an advance you don’t spend too much time planting land mines. The reason, you see, is that when you plant land mines on an advance, they tend to be behind you. If you’re still confused I could draw you a picture.

Burning oil fumes? Who exactly lit these wells on fire? I’ll give you a hint. The same people who torched hundreds of Kuwaiti wells and spilled millions of gallons of oil into the Shatt al Arab. Soon these fires will be out, so unless you are talking about Iraqis with serious oil allergies I don’t think we’ll see any fatalities out of this quarter.

So lets see, Brian: Small number of civilian casualties in the campaign, nobody starving, a couple of people blowing themselves up with bomblets, nobody stepping on American mines (Iraqi mines – different story), and only the most sensitive octogenarian asthmatics succumbing to oil fumes.

Yep, sounds like Auschwitz all over again.

And spare me your Johnny-come-lately support for Saddam's ouster. I am sure this is the first we've heard of this from you - and tell me, how would you have accomplished his removal without using military compulsion?

Daveman - best regards. I was cracking up on the whole Star Trek riff.

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Simon

by daveman Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 5:28 PM

Good fisking on Brian.

"Captain, further scans show that the pomposity coming from the Diogenes system is totally lacking in substance; it is merely a blast of hot air...idea content reads at...my God, I've never seen a reading that low!"

"Very well, secure from Red Alert and set shields to 'Ignore'."

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Simple Pimple

by Brian O'Connor Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 5:41 PM

How many civilian casualties are acceptable? 1? 10 ? 100? 1000? What if the one killed is you, Pimple? Would you change your imperialist attitude then? And let's see some numbers on casualties. You seem to think you have all the answers about a problem that ain't over yet.

Let's see: how many US missles hit Turkey? How many US missles hit Iran? Didn't US forces kill a carload of 10 women and children? What about the food riots in Basra? Everyone being fed there? LOL! And how the F*** do you know who lit the oil well fires? Were you there?

To this day, the Empire has failed to admit responsibility for anything it has done. Do you really think they'd admit it if a stray 'precision guided munition' hit an oil field?

Re: Iraqi internal matters - Doesn't the UN Charter prohibit interfering in other countries internal affairs? Oh that's right: the Empire is immune from internat'l prosecution. We can pre-emptively strike any nation we please. If I were in a foreign country right now, I would be scared and angry about this NEW disturbing US first-strike policy. We wo't be winning over any friends that way!

P.S. I would never back this imperialist-capitalist war. I would rather be on the 'losing' side and maintain my morals than hop on a bandwagon full of Fascist scum. I do not like Saddam, but I loathe Dubya and his mercenaries. Moreover, Iraq is not the 51st state.

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Brian...

by daveman Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 5:55 PM

...dude. Take your blood pressure medication before you blow a gasket.

"How many civilian casualties are acceptable? " As few as possible. You remember the UN predictions of 500,000 Iraqi civilian casualties? You, know, the ones you so readily believed? www.iraqbodycount.org shows 1413. So far, we're at 0.28% of the grand total. Hardly a campaign of genocide.

"To this day, the Empire has failed to admit responsibility for anything it has done." The United States has admitted when it made mistakes. You need to watch something beside Al Jazeera.

I get the idea you don't like America much. In that case, try this web site: http://www.asmincorp.com/thenleave/thenleave_001.htm

Happy trails!

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Simple

by Simple Simon Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 6:07 PM

Brian;

Arguing with you is like boxing an eight year old girl. Satisfying, not challenging.

How many civilian casualties are acceptable? Exactly the number that will die. When we exceed the number of Iraqis murdered by Hussein’s regime in the last 20 some years, then I’ll feel guilty. Oh, and if the one killed is me it wouldn’t change my attitude. Dead people don’t have attitudes.

How many US missiles hit Turkey? I don’t know. How many US missiles hit Iran? I heard of a few. What’s your point?

Yes US troops did kill 10 women and children in a van. This van ignored orders to stop and proceeded at a high rate of speed towards a military checkpoint. Stupidity kills.

You said above that the invasion was ‘about the oil, not liberation’. Now if that’s what you believe, why would we light oil wells on fire? To be big green meanies? And the fact that not one reporter of the thousands ‘embedded’ with the Coalition forces has made a suggestion that we lit the oil well fires leads me to believe it was the other guys. Hell, even Robert Fisk hasn’t accused us of lighting the fires.

I’m not sure what you are trying to say about Iraqi internal affairs. Are you saying that Saddam Hussein is Iraq’s problem so if he wants to butcher Iraqis that’s none of our business? You’re a sick little puppy. You're also ignoring the fact that the man was complicit in the 1993 bombing of the WTC. So 'live and let live' doesn't quite get it done.

So you ‘do not like’ Saddam Hussein but you ‘loathe’ President Bush. This pretty much says it all. When you can only dislike a brutal dictator who has murdered millions but save your hatred for the man who deposed him, you are really lost. Do you ever let other people know your views? I mean non-anonymously? You shouldn't.

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Simon

by Pissed Off in Ohio Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 6:12 PM

"Arguing with you is like boxing an eight year old girl. Satisfying, not challenging."

You sick asshole

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Simple

by Simple Simon Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 6:22 PM

Humor - alien concept to you Springfield?

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Slave and Pimple

by Brian O'Connor Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 6:47 PM

Slaveman,

That is a very American attitude you have there, bud: 'Anyone who questions the official version should be shunned or removed'. Is that what we did to the Rueters and Spanish cameramen and Al-Jazeera? 'You have questioned authority, now you must die!' Most democratic of you, dude.

Simple Pimple said:

'Arguing with you is like boxing an eight year old girl. Satisfying, not challenging.'

When exactly did you box this girl? Maybe we can put you in jail for child abuse! Otherwise, I agree with 'Pissed off in Ohio': you are sick in the head to make this statement, Pimple, and now EVERYONE knows!

Pimple also said:

'When we exceed the number of Iraqis murdered by Hussein’s regime in the last 20 some years, then I’ll feel guilty.'

Let's see, where to start! You must have some serious White Man's Burden? Is it heavy? So you are saying that as long as we don't kill AS MANY Iraqis as Saddam allegedly did, then we are morally just?

And also, why should you feel guilty? You're not pulling the trigger, are you? Oh, that's right: You support these oil-thirsty, blood-spilling vampires!

Here's some LOGIC for you, Simple! You said:

'Oh, and if the one killed is me it wouldn’t change my attitude. Dead people don’t have attitudes...'

Is not going from having an attitude to having no attitude a change? A null opinion would certainly be a change from the Sh!t you post here!

More Pimple pearls:

'How many US missiles hit Turkey? I don’t know. How many US missiles hit Iran? I heard of a few. What’s your point?'

Why don't we all know how many missiles hit Turkey and Iran? With all those embedded journalists, they should have heard something? Unless, of course, the Empire forbids reporting the TRUTH! And what's the point? WHAT'S THE POINT? WHAT'S THE POINT!!!????? The Empire slings bombs and missiles like hash and you ask me 'What's my point?'

Finally (and I'm skipping a lot of your BS on purpose):

PIMPLE: 'Do you ever let other people know your views? I mean non-anonymously?'

Brian O'Connor: could be a fake name for me, huh? Care to post YOUR REAL NAME? I didn't think so!

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Simple

by Simple Simon Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 6:57 PM

Getting a little testy Brian? Argument not your strong suit?

The boxing an eight year-old girl bit is from a Monty Python skit. But you and POIO wouldn't know that because humor doesn't come naturally to the brain dead. If you want, I think I could scare up a link.

You pose the question about missiles hitting Iran and Turkey and I ask what your point is. You see, junior, in war sometimes things go astray. The only reason you know about these incidents is the media has told you about them. Yes, the same media who you accuse of not telling you the truth. SO MAYBE THERE WERE NO MISSILES THAT HIT IRAN OR TURKEY! All lies!

You see how silly your paranoid position has become?

So, do you still like Saddam more than President Bush?

Silly rabbit.

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Bad Saddam! Bad!

by Historical Info Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 6:58 PM

Simple matter of a CIA asset gone bad, boys. . .Got to keep them assets in line ya know. . .

*************************

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Exclusive: Saddam Was key in early CIA plot



04/11/03

UPI: Richard Sale



U.S. forces in Baghdad might now be searching high and low for Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, but in the past Saddam was seen by U.S. intelligence services as a bulwark of anti-communism and they used him as their instrument for more than 40 years, according to former U.S. intelligence diplomats and intelligence officials.

United Press International has interviewed almost a dozen former U.S. diplomats, British scholars and former U.S. intelligence officials to piece together the following account. The CIA declined to comment on the report.

While many have thought that Saddam first became involved with U.S. intelligence agencies at the start of the September 1980 Iran-Iraq war, his first contacts with U.S. officials date back to 1959, when he was part of a CIA-authorized six-man squad tasked with assassinating then Iraqi Prime Minister Gen. Abd al-Karim Qasim.

In July 1958, Qasim had overthrown the Iraqi monarchy in what one former U.S. diplomat, who asked not to be identified, described as "a horrible orgy of bloodshed."

According to current and former U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, Iraq was then regarded as a key buffer and strategic asset in the Cold War with the Soviet Union. For example, in the mid-1950s, Iraq was quick to join the anti-Soviet Baghdad Pact which was to defend the region and whose members included Turkey, Britain, Iran and Pakistan.

Little attention was paid to Qasim's bloody and conspiratorial regime until his sudden decision to withdraw from the pact in 1959, an act that "freaked everybody out" according to a former senior U.S. State Department official.

Washington watched in marked dismay as Qasim began to buy arms from the Soviet Union and put his own domestic communists into ministry positions of "real power," according to this official. The domestic instability of the country prompted CIA Director Allan Dulles to say publicly that Iraq was "the most dangerous spot in the world."

In the mid-1980s, Miles Copeland, a veteran CIA operative, told UPI the CIA had enjoyed "close ties" with Qasim's ruling Baath Party, just as it had close connections with the intelligence service of Egyptian leader Gamel Abd Nassar. In a recent public statement, Roger Morris, a former National Security Council staffer in the 1970s, confirmed this claim, saying that the CIA had chosen the authoritarian and anti-communist Baath Party "as its instrument."

According to another former senior State Department official, Saddam, while only in his early 20s, became a part of a U.S. plot to get rid of Qasim. According to this source, Saddam was installed in an apartment in Baghdad on al-Rashid Street directly opposite Qasim's office in Iraq's Ministry of Defense, to observe Qasim's movements.

Adel Darwish, Middle East expert and author of "Unholy Babylon," said the move was done "with full knowledge of the CIA," and that Saddam's CIA handler was an Iraqi dentist working for CIA and Egyptian intelligence. U.S. officials separately confirmed Darwish's account.

Darwish said that Saddam's paymaster was Capt. Abdel Maquid Farid, the assistant military attach at the Egyptian Embassy who paid for the apartment from his own personal account. Three former senior U.S. officials have confirmed that this is accurate.

The assassination was set for Oct. 7, 1959, but it was completely botched. Accounts differ. One former CIA official said that the 22-year-old Saddam lost his nerve and began firing too soon, killing Qasim's driver and only wounding Qasim in the shoulder and arm. Darwish told UPI that one of the assassins had bullets that did not fit his gun and that another had a hand grenade that got stuck in the lining of his coat.

"It bordered on farce," a former senior U.S. intelligence official said. But Qasim, hiding on the floor of his car, escaped death, and Saddam, whose calf had been grazed by a fellow would-be assassin, escaped to Tikrit, thanks to CIA and Egyptian intelligence agents, several U.S. government officials said.

Saddam then crossed into Syria and was transferred by Egyptian intelligence agents to Beirut, according to Darwish and former senior CIA officials. While Saddam was in Beirut, the CIA paid for Saddam's apartment and put him through a brief training course, former CIA officials said. The agency then helped him get to Cairo, they said.

One former U.S. government official, who knew Saddam at the time, said that even then Saddam "was known as having no class. He was a thug -- a cutthroat."

In Cairo, Saddam was installed in an apartment in the upper class neighborhood of Dukki and spent his time playing dominos in the Indiana Café, watched over by CIA and Egyptian intelligence operatives, according to Darwish and former U.S. intelligence officials.

One former senior U.S. government official said: "In Cairo, I often went to Groppie Café at Emad Eldine Pasha Street, which was very posh, very upper class. Saddam would not have fit in there. The Indiana was your basic dive."

But during this time Saddam was making frequent visits to the American Embassy where CIA specialists such as Miles Copeland and CIA station chief Jim Eichelberger were in residence and knew Saddam, former U.S. intelligence officials said.

Saddam's U.S. handlers even pushed Saddam to get his Egyptian handlers to raise his monthly allowance, a gesture not appreciated by Egyptian officials since they knew of Saddam's American connection, according to Darwish. His assertion was confirmed by former U.S. diplomat in Egypt at the time.

In February 1963 Qasim was killed in a Baath Party coup. Morris claimed recently that the CIA was behind the coup, which was sanctioned by President John F. Kennedy, but a former very senior CIA official strongly denied this.

"We were absolutely stunned. We had guys running around asking what the hell had happened," this official said.

But the agency quickly moved into action. Noting that the Baath Party was hunting down Iraq's communist, the CIA provided the submachine gun-toting Iraqi National Guardsmen with lists of suspected communists who were then jailed, interrogated, and summarily gunned down, according to former U.S. intelligence officials with intimate knowledge of the executions.

Many suspected communists were killed outright, these sources said. Darwish told UPI that the mass killings, presided over by Saddam, took place at Qasr al-Nehayat, literally, the Palace of the End.

A former senior U.S. State Department official told UPI: "We were frankly glad to be rid of them. You ask that they get a fair trial? You have to get kidding. This was serious business."

A former senior CIA official said: "It was a bit like the mysterious killings of Iran's communists just after Ayatollah Khomeini came to power in 1979. All 4,000 of his communists suddenly got killed."

British scholar Con Coughlin, author of "Saddam: King of Terror," quotes Jim Critchfield, then a senior Middle East agency official, as saying the killing of Qasim and the communists was regarded "as a great victory." A former long-time covert U.S. intelligence operative and friend of Critchfield said: "Jim was an old Middle East hand. He wasn't sorry to see the communists go at all. Hey, we were playing for keeps."

Saddam, in the meantime, became head of al-Jihaz a-Khas, the secret intelligence apparatus of the Baath Party.

The CIA/Defense Intelligence Agency relation with Saddam intensified after the start of the Iran-Iraq war in September of 1980. During the war, the CIA regularly sent a team to Saddam to deliver battlefield intelligence obtained from Saudi AWACS surveillance aircraft to aid the effectiveness of Iraq's armed forces, according to a former DIA official, part of a U.S. interagency intelligence group.

This former official said that he personally had signed off on a document that shared U.S. satellite intelligence with both Iraq and Iran in an attempt to produce a military stalemate. "When I signed it, I thought I was losing my mind," the former official told UPI.

A former CIA official said that Saddam had assigned a top team of three senior officers from the Estikhbarat, Iraq's military intelligence, to meet with the Americans.

According to Darwish, the CIA and DIA provided military assistance to Saddam's ferocious February 1988 assault on Iranian positions in the al-Fao peninsula by blinding Iranian radars for three days.

The Saddam-U.S. intelligence alliance of convenience came to an end at 2 a.m. Aug. 2, 1990, when 100,000 Iraqi troops, backed by 300 tanks, invaded its neighbor, Kuwait. America's one-time ally had become its bitterest enemy.



UPI: Richard Sale





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Simple

by Simple Simon Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 7:01 PM

Kindly link to this article. This promises to be fun.

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It appears to be...

by MadMaxim Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 7:16 PM

...on NewsHax:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/4/10/205859.shtml

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Simple

by Simple Simon Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 7:18 PM

Cool. Thanks MadMaxim.

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simon is klantastic

by uncle floyd Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 7:22 PM

simon knows how to get into the inner circle

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Simple

by Simple Simon Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 7:23 PM

Brian, are you back to spamming son? Bad Bad Brian.

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Shot Dowwwn

by cuzin it Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 9:45 PM

pure & simple, eh? simon

but those stray missiles may/not have landed in iran or turkey or syria, or where ever,..whocares? rite?

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Simple

by Simple Simon Sunday, Apr. 13, 2003 at 6:03 PM

What missiles? Do you really believe the reports of corporate media?

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