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by Tricky Dick
Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 5:42 PM
More evidence that this "historic event" was staged by the Pentagon to manipulate public opinion
From The Independent (UK)
US says flag incident was a 'coincidence'
By Kim Sengupta in Baghdad
11 April 2003
It was, by any measure, an astonishing coincidence. As the biggest statue of Saddam Hussein in Baghdad was pulled down "spontaneously" in front of the world's media, the Stars and Stripes which flew on the Pentagon on 11 September was at hand to be draped over its face.
The US army denied that the toppling of the 20ft edifice by a tank tower was stage-managed. It was a coincidence, they said, that Lt Tim McLaughlin, the keeper of that flag, happened to be present.
And, it has to be noted, the commander of the US marines who completed the capture of Baghdad did express concern at the time that the use of the Stars and Stripes smacked of triumphalism. It was later changed to an Iraqi flag. But not before acres of TV footage had been shot.
Yesterday, the US army banned any display of the flag on vehicles, buildings, statues and command posts, halting its display almost everywhere but the US embassy in Baghdad.
There was some suspicion that the crowd that jumped up and down on the metal carcass had been bused in from the Shia suburb of Saddam City. That was not the case, they were mostly local. But they were the same people who chanted "My blood, my spirit, I shall die for you O Saddam" - until the last day of the regime.
Flushed with victory, the marines one spoke to had no doubts about the war's justice. But when asked whether they had seen any proof of a link between al-Qa'ida and the defeated Iraqi regime, there was general puzzlement.
When one of the few remaining "human shields" in Baghdad, Uzma Bashir, from Rickmansworth, baited the troops with shouts of "Yankee murderers", Cpl Ibrahim Rahim exploded: "I scooped up the brains of two young marines ... They died fighting to liberate Iraq. And you stand here insulting them with this shit." He added: "I am a Muslim ... and I know this region. That woman is seriously abusing her right of speech."
Captain Brian Lewis, a tank commander, said: "All we are trying to do is create the conditions for representative government."
news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=...
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by josh
Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 6:26 PM
"All we are trying to do is create the conditions for representative government."
Always close with a laugh!
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by systemfailure
Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 7:13 PM
911 flag eh?
I dont recall how many Iraqis were on those "911" planes.
Could someone provide me some weblinks
showing...
Proof that Iraq was involved in 911
ps
I thought the invasion was to find "weapons of mass destruction"
not
a regime change.
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by fresca
Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 8:24 PM
"I thought the invasion was to find "weapons of mass destruction"
not
a regime change."
Are you at all serious? You didn't actually just post this.
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by WAKE UP NAZI FREEPERS
Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 8:33 PM
Are you even getting a glimmer of what assholes this country has been and how badly we have acted. Let's see: Staged propganda photos, failure to find WMD, no throngs of Iraqi civilians coming to greet the liberators, etc., etc.
Now....I know you Neocons are slow, very slow, and you have to toe the Bush-Co line at all times - God forbid you would have an independent, free or original thought. But what else does that leave that could be the reason we are in Iraq?
Does the work "OIL" sound familiar? Get a clue: Bush has been lying to you. (Like .... what else is new? ) You neocons are like sheep. With your nose in the ass of the sheep right in front of you, right off the fucking cliff - no questions asked.
My country, right or wrong, but my country. However, this does NOT apply to those individuals who run the country and, unfortunately, at this time are running it into the ground.
Man, I thought we could not sink any lower than Richard Nixon or Ronald Reagan. Thanks, George Bush, for showing me that I was wrong. You, Bush, are basic pond scum with none of its charm.
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by Haha, get over it peacenik, you lose!
Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 9:36 PM
Maybe you haven't seen pictures even shown on arab networks of thousands of Iraqi people cheering for American forces, but I have, also, I heard about reports of mobile chemical weapons factories being found. Go ahead and tell me your conspiracy theories, but you can't justify the fact that you lose, the whole anti-war movement was completely wrong and you can't admit that..... How sad.
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by wavemaster500
Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 12:42 AM
Why doesen't it suprise me the neocons would reduce this debate on Iraq to some kind of contest. Ha ha we win, Is that all you can come up with? Of course the US military won! I mean half of our tax dollars go to building weapons of death and destruction. This is the biggest war machine in history. Anybody with a brain knows the real question is what is this army being used for and to who's benafite. The only diffrence between Sadam and the bath party elite and Bush and his fashist corporate masters are the statues. But I wouldn't be suprised if we don't see them soon.
And i know you neocons are going to say what about the human rights issue. But if you really look at whats going on Bush and his gang are killing and torturing on a Global Scale. Any country who wants to control it's own resources will be next on the Empires List
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by fresca
Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 3:14 AM
"But if you really look at whats going on Bush and his gang are killing and torturing on a Global Scale. "
So tired of hearing this nonsense. Tell me exactly WHERE and HOW bush is torturing and killing people on a Global scale.
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by Scottie
Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 6:37 AM
They didnt even want the flag on the dude so I think it cant be part of a conspiracy..
By the way - They used an american car to pull over the statue didnt they?
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