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FIGHT CENSORSHIP ON SF-INDYMEDIA

by Rootless cosmopolitan Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 4:56 AM

san-francisco-bay-Indy "collective" has been infiltrated by the nazi scum masquerating as a "libertarian anarchists" that's why they delete all my post because- the truth hurts.


ANTI-ZIONISM AND NEO-NAZISM = THE SAME SHIT, DIFFERENCE ASSHOLES. EVIDENCE BY THEIR OWN POSTS

san-francisco-bay-Indy "collective" has been infiltrated by the nazi scum masquerating as a "libertarian anarchists"

that's why they delete all my post
because- the truth hurts.

Notice, that all racist demonizating posts are still visible
online:

some fine example ::

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/1595234_comment.php#1595797


""" Zionists wanted this war, Zionists got this war, and we have to confront them as the authors of this war. """

Compare with the neo-nazis websites :

""Zionists wanted this war, Zionists get this war..."

DO You see ANY difference ?


""Zionism is a disease ..."

Neo-nazis (just check their websites ) :
"Zionism is a disease..."

DO You see any difference ?


sf.indy nazi bullshit :

<<
compare with white-aryan-nation' websites ::

<
Do You see ANY difference ??

more Indy-nazi propaganda :
<
Compare with Hitler's words.
compare with ANY neo-nazi site.

DO YOU see ANY difference ?

ANTI-ZIONISM AND NEO-NAZISM =
THE SAME SHIT - DIFFERENT ASSHOLES.

When people asked them :
<>Why sf-indy staff DELETED all post they're disagree with ?
Why they are so scared of the truth?<<


They answered :

<
But
Where is the evidence, that only Indy's "truth" is the last truth ??
Prove it or shut up.

That's what Indymedia calling "free publishing" ??
bwaaaahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Fucking losers !

Yes, Indy-nazi-scum hate to be exposed




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fucking anti-zionist plot

by fight censorship on Indymedia Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 5:00 AM

fight anti-zionist nazism
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What's wrong with Anti-Zionism?

by Guardian of the City Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 5:31 AM

Here's some truth about Zionism:

http://www.alfredlilienthal.com/
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Marginalized 5th Column Leftist weenies

by Eric Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 5:36 AM

I used to post on SF IMC for nearly two years. Over that time I witnessed Nessie and his ilk, the Anarchist Collective, erode the forum into an orgy of censorship, with the wafting stench of Anti-Americanism spewing forth from my computer screen ever time I clicked on the page.

Anything that is not lock-step with their brand of Anarchist politics is essentially banned. They're out to try and brainwash you, assuming you're an idiot AND hang around reading their dribblings long enough.

Now, I can't post anything, and I mean anything, without it being deleted within 5 minutes. For about a month they had my IP Address banned, although anonymous proxy servers provided me a good work around.

But it just got so ridiculous over there, I mean just plain silly, that I finally gave up. Came over here to LA-IMC, where they haven't yet marginalized themselves to the point of deleting anything they even so much as perceive as rght-of-center, yet.

But I'm still trying. Won't be long before they ban me here too. Hee hee.

But such is the consequence of being an insignificant nothing. The only way to get their point across is to squelch the opposition.

Imagine if these pricks had power, might, or military strenght! Imagine if they actually were in charge! It would be Hitler's Germany all over again.

Someone should go over there and SMASH THE SHIT OUT OF THEIR SERVER WITH A SLEDGE HAMMER!!!!!!
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Zion ist

by BEAVIS Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 5:53 AM

Zionist

so is an ist anything like an ism

Religious wars have plagued the Mid East for over 2000 years....hopefully this one weeds out most of the bad guys. I'd bet the house there will eventually be alot more peace in the region
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I was born in a town called Rishon Le Zion

by mymicz Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 6:23 AM

Does it make me a Zionist if my parents escaped Russia and moved to Israel where I was born? Does it make them bad for moving to a better place? Does it make me bad for having gone to the schools, read the books like Exodus and Uri Geller's biography? Does it make me bad to love certain things about Israel? No, none of that makes me bad. But the problem when you use words like Zionism and Jew is that people like me, who are good, and who are on the side of the Palestinians in general, get alienated. If you want something worked out you don't go around blaming and hating, you go around trying to find common dreams. I'm not saying the fascist side of Judaism shouldn't be highlighted, but many who see Zionism as different from what you see it as, maybe not understanding the full balance of good and evil within every idea, will not work with you. That is not what we want, we want to raise contiousness to a level where everyone communicates, anything less would be uncivilised. Fascism is fascism no matter what your ideal, be it Israel, or America, you can be a fascist about anything. It doesn't matter what kind of fascist you are. They all suck. You have to open these peoples minds, believe me they like honey better than vinegar and if they deserve the latter then they will karmically get theirs without your help.
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Zionism is a form of Fascism

by Joe Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 6:29 AM

Zionists murder innocent Palestinians, occupy their lands, kill peace activists with bulldozers, and base their political philosophy on the rights of one group over all others. There is no ethical difference between a Zionist and a White Supremist. The only differences are in the choice of victims. Zionists and JDL hate mongers are pissed because they cannot control IndyMedia. Too bad! All Zionists are enemies of the antiwar movement and enemies of the resistance. They should be purged.
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That stupid peace activist

by committed suicide Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 6:35 AM

with that bulldozer. And rightly deserved it. Natural selection in all it's glory.
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Hmmm

by fresca Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 6:40 AM

"Zionism is a form of Fascism"


And Islamic Fundamentalism and the avowed prime directive of Hamas et.al. to "kill Jews wherever they are found" isn't right?
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Rootless cosmopolitan

by brigg Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 7:45 AM

Eric is right down the line with SF-IMC. Eric starting posting there probably 3 months or so after I did. At one time you could actually challenge their posting and banter back and forth. Not anymore. I kicked nessie's ass so often I had to resort to posting under a different name and re-arrange the way I wrote just to get my message to stay on the board. Would that Sheepdog, Diogenes, KPC and others here could debate like nessie could. He's dumb as a fucking rock but at least he put out a somewhat admirable effort. You leftists/anarchists goobers here at LA-IMC can hardly string a sentence together. But nessie went bonkers lately, couldn't handle being challenged, and went on a wild "hiding" spree of anything he didn't like. Claimed that "friends" of the site didn't like their articles being challenged, but you never saw any other the regular leftists/anarchists complain about us being there. SF-IMC has become a wasteland.

Of course, only a few months ago, this place was nothing, Deadsville. I remember about 6 moths ago, SmashTheLeft mentioned this site saying it was dead and that he was coming over here to shake things up. I had logged on here on and off for about a year before he said that and had made occasional comments, but you never saw more than 2 or 3 comments made per day before we right-wingers came over here. You have us to thank for the upsurge of the comment board at this site and for a hugh upswing in the overall IQ of postings.

I still occationally go to SF-IMC to read them bitch and complain about nothing, but the Bay Area is loaded with whackos anyway and most of the comments there are to be expected. At least here I get to spit on liberals without being deleted.
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by To Brigg Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 8:04 AM

You have waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands. Get a life.
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no name

by brigg Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 8:12 AM

Yeah. Whatever.
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Zionist Fanaticism in a nutshell

by Golem Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 9:52 AM

AVRAHAM (YAIR) STERN:

THE IDEOLOGY OF THE LEHI

National Revival Principles (HaTechiya)
The Fighters for the Freedom of Israel (FFI) - The LEHI
by Avraham (Yair) Stern, zt"l


1. THE NATION
The Jewish people is a covenanted people, the originator of monotheism, formulator of the prophetic teachings, standard bearer of human culture, guardian of glorious patrimony. The Jewish people is schooled in self-sacrifice and suffering; its vision, survivability and faith in redemption are indestructible.

2. THE HOMELAND The homeland in the Land of Israel within the borders delineated in the Bible ("To your descendants, I shall give this land, from the River of Egypt to the great Euphrates River." Genesis 15:18) This is the land of the living, where the entire nation shall live in safety.

3. THE NATION AND ITS LAND
Israel conquered the land with the sword. There it became a great nation and only there it will be reborn. Hence Israel alone has a right to that land. This is am absolute right. It has never expired and never will.

4. THE GOALS
1. Redemption of the land.
2. Establishment of sovereignty.
3. Revival of the nation.
There is no sovereignty without the redemption of the land, and there is no national revival without sovereignty.

These are the goals of the organization during the period of war and conquest:

5. EDUCATION
Educate the nation to love freedom and zealously guard Israel's eternal patrimony. Inculcate the idea that the nation is master to its own fate. Revive the doctrine that "The sword and the book came bound together from heaven" (Midrash Vayikra Rabba 35:8)

6. UNITY
The unification of the entire nation around the banner of the Hebrew freedom movement. The use of the genius, status and resources of individuals and the channeling of the energy, devotion and revolutionary fervor of the masses for the war of liberation.

7. PACTS
Make pacts with all those who are willing to help the struggle of the organization and provide direct support.

8. FORCE
Consolidate and increase the fighting force in the homeland and in the Diaspora, in the underground and in the barracks, to become the Hebrew army of liberation with its flag, arms, and commanders.

9. WAR
Constant war against those who stand in the way of fulfilling the goals.

10. CONQUEST
The conquest of the homeland from foreign rule and its eternal possession.

These are the tasks of the movement during the period of sovereignty and redemption:

11. SOVEREIGNTY
Renewal of Hebrew sovereignty over the redeemed land.

12. RULE OF JUSTICE
The establishment of a social order in the spirit of Jewish morality and prophetic justice. Under such an order no one will go hungry or unemployed. All will live in harmony, mutual respect and friendship as an example to the world.

13. REVIVING THE WILDERNESS
Build the ruins and revive the wilderness for mass immigration and population increase.

14. ALIENS
Solve the problem of alien population by exchange of population.

15. INGATHERING OF THE EXILES
Total in-gathering of the exiles to their sovereign state.

16. POWER
The Hebrew nation shall become a first-rate military, political, cultural and economical entity in the Middle East and around the Mediterranean Sea.

17. REVIVAL
The revival of the Hebrew language as a spoken language by the entire nation, the renewal of the historical and spiritual might of Israel. The purification of the national character in the fire of revival.

18. THE TEMPLE
The building of the Third Temple as a symbol of the new era of total redemption.

************************************

Gee, who could argue with that ? I especially like that part about "from the River of Egypt to the Great Euphrates River ."
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more like "permit freepers to go wild"

by no-spam Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 10:09 AM

with total spam, links to neo-nazi sites and much more

censorship and an editorial policy are not the same thing, and freeper, spammed articles from David (w)Horowitz and on and on isn't news or commentary -- it's spam.

Freepers censor their cite. Rush censors his radio program. All other right-wing folks censor like made. The day they stop censoring, they will have an argument. Otherwise, there's no argument.
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You liberals need to shut the hell up.

by Eric Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 10:15 AM

I am so sick of whiny liberals. And then they tell other people to "get a life". You idiots are...just idiots.

brigg was there on sf imc for a long time, I remember. Some of the most insightful posts I saw on that scum-hole cess pool of a propaganda wire.

But no matter how badly guys like brigg and I make these idiots look, they just keep coming back for more. It's like when I was a kid and had that Bozo the clown punching bag:

http://www.entertainmentearth.com/hitlist.asp?collect=Inflatable+Toys

these resilient buffoons just keep coming back for more. Talk about gluttons for punishment!

Hey brigg! Don't take shit off a scum sucking toilet licking out-dated washed up no good all bad NGO working no life bateria laden non-bath taking anarchist piece of marginalized socialist trash like that! Let's get the guys together and drive over and pay them a visit!

SmashTheLeft, JoJo Gunn, hell I bet even Bush Admirer and Simon would like to get a little liberal ass!

Terrorist cells. Chickenshit little cowards talk all big and bad on the internet. I'd love to snap a 5th Column Leftist's neck right now!

Hey you liberal losers, I'm leaving for Malta on Saturday for two weeks, but when I get back you better have your shit together and get my fucking newswire forum cleaned up. Get all that potty talk off of it and have some solid debates going on or I'll be in the car faster than you can say "Bill Clinton was a philandering piece of hippie dung with a case of Monika vaginosis stench all over his pee-pee" to pay you idiots a visit.

Smack off at one of my friends like that...
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and you, yeah you, mr no spam

by Eric Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 10:18 AM

SHUT YOUR FUCKING PIE-HOLE BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wow

by wow Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 10:40 AM

wow
Take
a nap
cranky boy
wow
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Indymedia has been flooded by the fake"jews"

by Mahmoud Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 12:13 PM


mymicz •, nice try, fake"Jew"

your post is Bullshit.
You are not a Jew. You are another savage nazi scum who lies.
You was born in LA,
stupid WASP-liar.

I have seen about 68 fake"jews" on this site.
Enough is enough.

Orwellian mindrot,
zionism is not judaism , many zionist jews are
non-religious. at all...
One friend of mine, a zionist jew - almost never go to synagogue and not believe in god.

Forgery about "bad judaism" you stole from your favourite website kkk.com.
Go and play there.

Actually, you're right -
Anti-Zionism is a form of Fascism, imperialism and racism.

From Searchlight :
http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/stories/022003_story03.htm

It seems that today's anti-imperialists have either forgotten or don't realise that the vast majority of them would have SUPPORTED the creation of the State of Israel in 1948 as a blow against imperialism. In the immediate aftermath of the Second World War the Jewish national movement in Palestine was engaged in an underground war against the British Army, which occupied Mandate Palestine at the time. Pressure from within Palestine and outside forced the British out of the region



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SF IMC rocks

by x Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 12:36 PM

It's not perfect. Nothing is. But it's much better than LA IMC, where one finds pornography pictures posted all the time and an insane and massive amount of outright spam (that freepers and their ilk call "different views")

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LAA LAA ALAA ALLAA LAA ALALAALAA ALAA LAA

by Eric Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 1:37 PM

"SFIMC rocks"

Yeah. Daydreams are so much better than real life. I sure hope I never have to wake up.
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Call it what you will

by fresca Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 1:40 PM

"It's not perfect. Nothing is. But it's much better than LA IMC, where one finds pornography pictures posted all the time and an insane and massive amount of outright spam (that freepers and their ilk call "different views")"

Call it what you will, but you know as well as I do that ANY and ALL posts exhibiting dissent get banned immediately with the exception of ONE poster. Gehrig.
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Yep Gehrig

by Eric Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 1:48 PM

That's because his intelligence is sub-standard and he's essentially a pro-Israel nazi. An excellent foil and easy to make a fool of. He was posting on IMC when I started there several years back. Probably just one of nessie's alter egos...
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gehrig is ok

by mahmoud Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 2:42 PM


<<
1. Because Gehrig's post very moderate..

2. Because Nessie suck NEEDS ENEMIES, to discuss with. But they afraid TOO much
counter debators, that's why they banned other opposition's posts.
No Gehrig - no discussion.

3. Gehrig is stupid as he's bumping all racist articles all the time.

<<
Orwellian mindrot. He's posts is very intelligent.



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The New X

by The New X Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 3:11 PM

perhaps it is

zionism = nazism.

compare the policies of Nazi Germany with the policies of the Israeli government.

Replace Aryan with Jews, and Jew with Non-jews and u have effectively transformed Nazi philosophy into zionist philosophy.
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The New X is a Nazi!

by The New X is a Nazi! Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 3:12 PM

The New X is a Nazi! Look at that! He hates jews! You are a NAZI!!!! Die Nazi-scum!
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think

by god Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 3:15 PM

new x

You do your race a dis-service.
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Maybe

by dog Friday, Apr. 11, 2003 at 3:18 PM

But he knows how to spell neutron
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i like rightys here

by thomas Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 3:34 AM

Your welcome anytime as far as im concerned.

"Bill Clinton was a philandering piece of hippie dung with a case of Monika vaginosis stench all over his pee-pee"
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ANTI-ZIONISM = NAZISM

by the old X Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 3:41 AM

Why anti-zionism is nazism ?

1. Because Hitler and Stalin was anti-zionists.

2.because all neo-nazis are anti-zionists (evidence by their own posts)


compare the policies of Nazi Germany with the policies of anti-zionism.

Replace Aryan with anti-zionists and u have effectively transformed Nazi philosophy into Anti-zionist philosophy.
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The New X

by The New X Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 5:30 AM

ZIONISM = NAZISM

the zionists expelled the Palestinians from their homes to create a "motherland" for the "chosen people" (the superior master race known as the jews).

the nazis expelled jews, gypsies, homosexuals, disabled etc (and later killed many of them as we all know) to create a "motherland" for the "Aryan people" (the superior master race of blond haired, blue eyed Germans.

The zionists then ghettoized the Palestinian population as did the Nazis.

To this day, the Warsaw ghetto = the Gaza strip

ZIONISM = NAZISM = RACISM

Jews are regular people like you and me. They are not superior or inferior in any way and thus should not be treated like Gods. Their treatment of Palestinians are shameful and they reflect Nazi policies.
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The New X

by The New X Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 6:42 AM

apologies for the bad english in the above post
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Nope. Try again.

by daveman Saturday, Apr. 12, 2003 at 6:59 AM

Doesn't work, New X.

Israel does not have as a tenet of faith the extermination of the Palestinians.

The Palestinian is explicit: They will not rest until Jerusalem is theirs. The Jews will not give it up willingly. The only solution?

Kill all the Jews.

Sorry; I have no sympathy for the terroristic, murdering tactics of the Palestinians.
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fight censorship on sf-indy

by cosmopolitan Sunday, Apr. 13, 2003 at 2:10 PM

<<
Yes,
You're right, that's what zionism is about.

That's why Anti-zionism is nazism,
because
anti-zionists demonise and discriminate the jews.

because all nazis are anti-zionists.

Actually-
you're changing the issue again.

My article on this topic was

a.. about stalinist censorship on sf-indy.

b. they deleating all posts they disagree with -
while they leaving visible lot of nazi-crap.,
for example :

Demonising drivel about
"zionists control the world" you can read on ANY
white-aryan-imbecile.com website,

the same crap, word in word, you can found on sf-indy.


Note:
The UN General Assembly's December, 1991, made the decision to invalidate Resolution 3379 equating Zionism with racism by a vote of 87 to 25.



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To cosmopolitan

by Nazi/Zionist BS patrol Sunday, Apr. 13, 2003 at 2:21 PM

We are laughing.
Try this at the FreeRepublic
where contradictions are the
regular diet; mossad asshole.
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SF Indy

by Amused. Sunday, Apr. 13, 2003 at 2:39 PM

I've also had a run in with Nessie at SF Indymedia. I was pointing out that NAZIs are socialists, etc. and he kept getting daffy. I mentioned that my cousin was a German officer who was tried, convicted, and executed for war crimes (machine gunning American sailors in the water after he sunk their ships). Nessie called me a "Jew" and deleted all my posts. I pointed out that maybe being a relative of an actual honest to God war criminal was maybe more damning than "suspicion of Jewishness" and that maybe German U-boat commanders weren't actually Jewish, but he deleted that, too.

If Zionists are NAZIs they'll have to start killing several thousand Palestinians a day, and keep it up for a couple years. Otherwise they just don't rate.

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Yes it is

by N/Z BS P Sunday, Apr. 13, 2003 at 2:50 PM

Would you mind varifying your quote with a link?
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to Nazi-antiZionist

by MOST SAD AGENT Monday, Apr. 14, 2003 at 3:10 AM


We are laughing.

White-Aryan-asshole.





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to antiZionist-nazi BS patriot

by cosmopolitan Tuesday, Apr. 29, 2003 at 12:01 PM

We are laughing.
Try this at the www.skinheads.com
where contradictions and hate are the
regular diet; KKK asshole.

You illiterate IMBECILE , you can't read, stupid
antiZionist-Nazi patriot
I live in monarchist country in europe, where the word "republican" is very progressive.(of course, I oppose monarchy)..

America is not whole world, monarchist dumbass.

That's what in US calls "neo-conservative" -In europe is "neo-liberal"..

bwaaaahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Resume is - neanderthalus-AntiZionisticus used reversed names for the same stuff in the lack of any better argument.

bwaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa







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Smarmster rules the universe

by Smarmster Tuesday, Apr. 29, 2003 at 12:08 PM

You mean The kingdom of malta?
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To all zionist nazi patriots

by YOU KNOW WHO Tuesday, Apr. 29, 2003 at 12:09 PM

If you would like to see all Muslims (mudslums) wiped off the face of the Earth, please visit our site at:

www.kobe.com

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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to all anti-zionist nazi shit

by Abdoullah Wednesday, Apr. 30, 2003 at 3:10 PM

If you would like to see all Jews wiped off the face of the Earth, please visit our site at:

www.kkk.org
www.white-aryan-nation
www.wehatejews.org
plus millions and millions other

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA




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mek

by M.L.D. Wednesday, Apr. 30, 2003 at 5:42 PM

Why do you hate them?
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