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by C/O Diogenes
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 7:11 PM
Irish philosopher Edmund Burke once said: "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
My brother Marines are dying for nothing - AGAIN!
Robert S. Finnegan
Managing Editor
Southeast Asia News
March 27th 2003
Irish philosopher Edmund Burke once said: "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
No words could better describe the situation taking place in America today.
As the illegal war in Iraq bogs down and the body bags start coming home to the accompaniment of images of American POW's on CNN, the mood worldwide is one of shocked disbelief that events have been allowed to go this far.
If indeed Americans who have supported this war in the beginning are becoming disillusioned, wait until the next curtain comes up. Warfare in built-up areas: the nightmare of all military commanders. Americans seem to love war these days, especially when they can kick back in their well-worn easy chairs and sip their cheap suds while taking in the deadly events occurring in the Middle East. Zombie-like, they exercise a level of egotism that sets them apart from the human race. I wonder if the "independent media" will ever show this rotting underbelly of the United States on prime time, the supporters of this illegal war.
In Jakarta, my Indonesian friends now avoid me. This is a bad sign. The radicals are having a field day and growing stronger by the minute. America, the Great Satan. I used to laugh at that phrase. Not anymore. From where I'm sitting it carries a lot of weight.
What happed to the lessons supposedly learned in Vietnam? Are we as a nation doomed to repeat past mistakes over and over again until finally the American people have had enough and attempt to call a halt to this slaughter? What will happen to those who do exercise their "rights" - as if we have any left - in an attempt to steer our country and our people back on course with the rest of humanity?
What will the mindless, beer-swilling sheep that comprise the majority of our electorate do when they finally realize the gig is up? Will they admit they were wrong, or simply bend over and take it in the kiester because they are, after all, the real cowards in our society?
Will the government turn the military loose on the protesters? Will they fire on their own countrymen? What will it take to dislodge the evil in the White House?
I am afraid that I already know the answers to these questions.
The one question that looms in my mind now is: Can we still take back our country?
Or is it too late?
On a very personal level, I have to say that I am sick of hearing average Americans parroting the lies of the administration. Just the other day I was attacked for an article I wrote suggesting that a very hard look be taken at what we the people are allowing to happen in our name. One reader, who appeared to possess the IQ of a smart housedog (apologies to American dogs) actually challenged me to a duel. I laughed at it. I'm not laughing now. Not after watching the bodies of my brother Marines being treated as they were in Vietnam.
So, Mr. America, you hot dog eating, cheap beer swilling loser who probably never saw a day of military service, I am now ready to take you up on it. You and me stud.
I specify sawed-off 12 gauge shotguns at 20 paces. I'll pay your way to Jakarta - duels are legal here - and may the best man win. I'll even pay for your cremation and the Buddhist monks to preside over the scattering of your ashes; it's still a bargain in this part of the world.
My brother Marines are dying for nothing, AGAIN, and I am now one very pissed off Marine.
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Robert S. Finnegan is the International Communications Editor for the Office of the Coordinating Minister of the Economy, Republic of Indonesia and a veteran investigative reporter. Recently working as the lead investigator for The Jakarta Post on the Bali bombing, the author has resided in Indonesia for three years and is a former Marine Corps Non-Commissioned Officer. He can be reached at finnegan@cbn.net.id.
Robert S. Finnegan
Managing Editor
Southeast Asia News
Jakarta, Indonesia
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by Diogenes
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 7:15 PM
To all those who serve with honor an Administration that knows not the meaning of the word.
To my brothers wherever you might be. Salut!
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by .
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 7:26 PM
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by Diogenes
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 7:38 PM
...to do with 911 so your implication is either misinformed or an intentional lie.
Which is it?
911 - WHAT REALLY HAPPENED!
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by ARABLOVER
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 7:43 PM
Now they hate us?
Of course, they loved us before this attack on Iraq. Know how I can tell? I saw that picture of the WTC in the Iraqi military headquarters with the airplane marked Iraqi Airlines crashing into it.
I can tell these people have lots of love anf respect for the USA. Fuck you Finnigan you trator bitch.
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by .
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 7:45 PM
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by Diogenes
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 7:46 PM
...by the stupidity of the Trolls. All they can do is repeat over and over the same stupid untruths which they stupidly believe. No intellect, no analysis, no principled counter arguments. Just rote regurgitation of whatever they have been told to think.
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by aj
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 7:50 PM
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by TRUESTUFF
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 7:57 PM
911 was a planned attack and the CIA and Dubbia were the planners. They did this to get us into a war against the Arab Countries so they could get control of the oil and control the juce for the big oil companies. I know this is true for a fact.
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by Sheepdog
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 7:58 PM
Maybe it's good I've got my graphics off.
Try to inject some reason instead of BS SPAM.
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by TRUE
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 8:07 PM
We are providing reason in the same manner and with the same clarity in which you have provided reason. Bush and the CIA planned 9-11 right down to the brand of boxcutters they wanted their hirelings to use and what floors the planes were to hit. This is all for OIL for Bushes buddys and to profit off of war and to take people like me and you and place us into concentration camps. We are not crazy and conspiracy theorists but the knowers of truth and the proclaimers of it and we will march to defend ourselves form tyranny of Bush and his hit men.
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by Eric
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 8:10 PM
You liberals are very disturbed individuals indeed.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 8:13 PM
...disturbing.
“We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth...for my part, I am willing to know the whole truth,; to know the worst; and to provide for it.” - Patrick Henry March 23, 1775
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by PATTOO
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 8:25 PM
The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
Eat Shit Diogenes
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by mymicz
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 8:27 PM
Hopefully Sadam will croak, and then, Bush will be tried, tarred, and feathered. 80% of all of the people in the world could give a shit about the causes of war and the hate you spew(last commentator). Inncoent people don't hate, they are just sick of being victims, and then they rise up. The only traitor here is Bush, for putting our lives at risk for his financial gain. He will be impeached, for conspiracy to undermine the U.S. and the constitution. Sorry, it's gonna be a long sad road of dead Marines that leads to this. But they have taken their orders without considering the international law. Although I believe soldiers should not be held accountable in the sense of being brought to trial, public opinion will hold them thus regardless. Hopefully the leaders will fry just as hard as the baby killers. Hopefully the "good soldiers," who purposely tried to save lives and carried wounded Iraqi's to hospitals will be forgiven for their roles. Hopefully, the Bush family name will be removed from office entirely, because of conflict of interest in the private sector.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 8:29 PM
...is from the same speech at Falls Church Virgina. The context in which was given was that British forces were already on their way to INVADE the 13 Colonies. He was speaking of a War forced on the Colonies by an invading power - Britain.
You might want to remove your head from your ass before you try dueling quotes in American History with me.
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by SOLDIER
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 8:31 PM
So our soldires are guilty of violating "international law" by obeying their commander if chief and the US congerss? What fuckin planet are you from? you need serious intervention for your obvious pshycosis.
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by Eric
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 8:38 PM
It's good to know that you're usefule for something. A historian dittohead. Good for you.
Too bad you haven't an original thought of your own in that bozo the clown head of yours.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 8:38 PM
...under the UCMJ a Soldier is responsible for NOT obeying an illegal order. To do so is cause for Courts Martial.
The Nurmeberg Codes clearly state that: "I vas chust followink horders" is not a defense.
A Soldiers first responsibility is to the Constitution and his Oath. Not the Scoundrel occupying the Oval Orofice. This is allegedly a Constitutional Republic not a Dictatorship.
"...things would be whole lot easier if this were a dictatorship, as long as I am the Dictator." George W. Bush
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by PATTOO
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 8:40 PM
Dam you are a genious. So the point is being free of the threat of Iqaui WMD"S is liberty. Being free of the supporters of ALL terrorism is LIBERTY and get this, the WTC was an invasion of America. The iraqi being free of the terror and ruthlessness of the dictator from hell is LIBERTY.
Osama supports Saddam and you know that Saddam has supported one terrorist organization after another. Stick that up your brainless ass.
You just don't get it do ya.
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by Simple Simon
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 8:44 PM
This wouldn't be the same Robert S. Finnegan who was fired by the Jakarta Post recently, would it?
The guy who floated unsubstantiated accusations of CIA involvement in the Bali bombing?
Nice.
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by SOLDIER
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 8:51 PM
So the whole Greman Army should have been tried as War Criminals? The soldiers who fought in Nam and Korea should be tried as war criminals.
Diogenes you are something else. Did you miss the Senate and Congerss passing a bill by a HUGH margin to give Bush the power to commit troops to battle. Did you miss the latest Senate and Congerssional mandate supporting Bush. Even your HERO Bill Clinton pleaded for support of Bush.
Is your contention that YOU, DIOGENES, ARE THE SUPREME PURVEOR OF ALL TRUTH
Or you completly bling to anything approaching reality.
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by american
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 8:54 PM
PATTOO. Fuck off. You are a goddamned moron. You and your knuckledragging fellow travellers' intellect can't hold a candle to the brains and integrity of Diogenes.
It's people like Diogenes and the others that you rain scorn upon that make this country worth dying for, not stupid fucking morons like you and your draft-dodging chickenhawk fratboy president.
Let's let the potheads out of jail and put all these hideous and fascist neo-cons in there.
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by PATTOO
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 8:59 PM
American Pot Head / Doper
You are convincing me to turn lefty keep up the logic and lay the shmooze on me sommore I like it when you talk dirty.
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by american
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 9:10 PM
Fuck off. The corporate media has brainwashed you to think that lefties are punching bags, like Tom Daschle. But, if one of you one-toothed goobers comes up to me and talks your warmongering shit to me, I will shove your one-tooth straight down your throat. Understand?
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by Sheepdog
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 9:22 PM
When a typical moron gets in my face I just smile.
If he makes a mistake and swings on me, it then is
simple assault and I react as anyone would in self
defense. No laws broken on my side.
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by shooter
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 9:22 PM
Oh, yeah. You scare us so.
Citizens militia. .45's or weapon of choice. Point blank range. POP!!!!
We look forward to the day.
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by american
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 9:24 PM
The only assaults by these rightwing thugs so far have been against women and old ladies. Fucking cowards.
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by Simple Simon
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 11:41 PM
What 'rightwing thugs' are you referring to?
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by Eat Shit and Die, Right Wingers
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 11:43 PM
Who the fuck do you think we are referring to? The Red Cross?
GMAFB
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by Delta Force
Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 11:45 PM
We have more "heat" than you do.
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by Diogenes
Saturday, Mar. 29, 2003 at 1:59 AM
What Terrorist Organizations are you speaking of?
Can you name one? I doubt it. You are again just regurgitating the disinformation you have been spook fed by Rush and the other dishonest purveyors of disinformation. Perhaps Michael Weiner? Oops Michael Savage as the little Chicken Hawk Wimp styles himself.
There is NO, NONE, NADA, NONEWHATSOEVER, evidence linking Iraq to 911.
There were however 5 Israeli Mossad Agents arrested for celebrating and high-fiving as they took pictures of the collapsed Twin Towers. Gosh, I wonder why they were so happy over 3,000 people dying?
The Motto of the Mossad: "By Way of Deception Thou Shalt Do War".
911 - WHAT REALLY HAPPENED?
P.S. TO American - I thank you for your support. The Trolls are getting entirely too uppity.
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by zionist
Saturday, Mar. 29, 2003 at 2:06 AM
We are happy at the slaughter of 3,000 innocent civilians because now, with the help of Idiot George, we can take more land for Israel.
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by Bush is Mine Fuhrer
Saturday, Mar. 29, 2003 at 6:59 AM
Mine Fuhrer George Bush told me that invading to Iraq was for pre-emptive strike against incoming US threat on next 5 years.
The person who bombed Bali also told me that he killed Americans, Brits and Australians was for pre-emptive strike also because the victims in the next 5 or 10 years could be the threat to human being.
Well,.......... I think those two bastardos have the same idea.
Heil Bush !!!!!
Heil Bush !!!!!
Heil Bush !!!!!
Heil Bush !!!!!
Heil Bush !!!!!
Heil Bush !!!!!
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